I’m also using LM-Studio and AnythingLM to run local models. They are smaller than ChatGPT, but still fun to play with. When we closed down a business a couple of years ago, we left the support documents on the web, but I have put together an experimental system using llama3.2 along with attached documents including two PDF manuals and about 600 web pages developed over about a decade by our support staff. It seems to work pretty well, but I don’t think it provides anything that couldn’t be gotten by reading over 500 pages of PDF and 600 web pages. It does provide it a lot faster, though.

It is very responsive on a new MacBook Pro with M4 Pro.

— Barry

On 27 Jan 2025, at 11:38, cody dooderson wrote:

Just wanted to share something kind of related. I've been using a program
called *LM-Studio *to run a chatbot on my local machine. Yeah, it's
definitely slower than ChatGPT, and honestly, I don't think it's as good
either. But here's the upside: it's completely free, and my data stays
right here on my machine—no cloud stuff involved, which is a huge win for
privacy.

From what I can tell, these models still have guardrails. While they might not be perfect yet, they aren't causing me any issues right now. It might be interesting to see how these guardrails develop as the models get bigger
and more advanced.

It can run small versions of the new DeepSeek model that is making the
news. I used an 8 billion parameter model to help me rewrite this email. I
think the version in the news has over 100 billion parameters, and
ChatGPT-4 may have 250 billion parameters.


_ Cody Smith _
d00d3r...@gmail.com

* DeepSeek-R1-Distill-Llama-8B-GGUF was used to write this email.


On Mon, Jan 27, 2025 at 8:50 AM Prof David West <profw...@fastmail.fm>
wrote:

More days searching for Ghost, not just pages about Ghost.

I do not believe that the collective on this list could not supply me with
a URL, so IT must not exist, or it is intentionally being withheld.

Steve,
I did dance on the edge of the abyss, and just a bit down slope. But my targets were government facilities (trains carrying ammo across the salt flats to San Diego and Vietnam) or institutions like large banks(they were still incredibly naive with regard cybercrime in those days). Can still quote my "Little Red Book," and, had they issued them, could show my SDS
membership. Tales for the grandkids.

Gillian,
Everyone on the list knows I have indulged psychedlics since 1969. I know
how to extrract heroin, coke, and cook Meth; but have absolutely no
interest in doing so. Have grown shrooms and extracted psylocibin. I know there is a fairly simple way to synthesize MDMA without using the banned
precursor chemicals and might ask Ghost about that.

davew


On Sat, Jan 25, 2025, at 6:34 PM, steve smith wrote:

DaveW -

OK, assume me to be a sociopath, but please tell me where and how to
access ghostGPT.

I don't assume *you* to be a sociopath.  I assume that you have a
significant resistance to your own inner sociopath since you (by your own anecdote) have played much closer to what to me would be the edges of an
abyss... or so I assume (fear).

If the analogy holds, my greatest fear about being drafted into the
military was not that I would be killed or maimed by the enemy but that I would learn to kill and maim and like it. That by extension I would become sloppy about how I identified "the enemy"... maybe during basic training? It felt like a real and existential (to the most cherished part of myself)
threat.

I have held a copy of the anarchist cookbook and even browsed through it but again, shied away when I found my eyes drawn to closely to the details of certain "tools" which had/have no obvious other purpose than to enact asymmetric (and likely anonymous) violence on others. This is not to say that I don't have in my mind scenarios where such skills and tools might be the only thing between myself and the annihilation of myself and all that I love. I am blessed to not live in such a context (so far, and for the most part). The fact that others live otherwise is a source of sadness for me but I am not tempted to seek those borders and regions myself. My instinct is that I am and would be an addict in such a space... would I be good enough to survive long enough to truly become "a menace to society"?
Probably not.

I can find hundreds of pages talking about the tool, but cannot find the
tool itself.

I promise, no bombs, no drugs (I have my 1960s original copy of T*he
Anarchist's Cookbook *for that), but I do have thousands of questions
that I would like to ask, and it would be cool to do my own assessment of the risk that such a tool might actually pose. Is that risk as overblown as most of the claims made for AI, the dark web, or Silk Road (Ross Freed!!!).

By analogy (again), I worked right up against secrets of nuclear
weapons... There was little, if anything I learned about them that was more shocking or horrific than what everyone knows about them, and that knowledge did not seem specifically like a burden to me. Maybe some of
the details of the fancy tricks used to make designs "intrinsically"
foolproof  (fool safe, safe even in the hands of fools?) made me
uncomfortable to be the vessel of such.

I was much more uncomfortable as I shifted my exposure from "conventional"
nuclear weapons design (and many other things) to more "conventional"
military and intelligence projects.   By the time I left in 2008 my
clearance levels had risen, and exposure to projects put me in the orbit (IMO) of the kinds of things that I think triggered Snowden (and others) to take outrageous measures. My biggest fear was that I was going to learn or see something I couldn't unlearn or unsee. I kept my clearance for a couple of years, staying engaged with a couple of very mellow projects which never came close to such information. This was *before* Snowden. His unfurling back in (2014ish?) was quite conflicting and PTSD-ey for me.

I worked with people who *sought* to work on the most implicative
projects, and IMO it was *mostly* ego driven, but in some cases it felt
acutely that they were truly well, grounded people who had no "inner
sociopath" and knew it?

One last tangential anecdote relates to my working my way through college as a PI... the more I learned about the craft and the more I learned about the targets of my clients (and more to the point, about my clients) the less I wanted to do the work.... this was Flagstaff, AZ a pretty small, nominally innocent town but the surface(s) I scratched trying to scratch out a living for a young family lead me to see and know things that would
have been miserable to live with had I remained there.

The red/blue pill dilemma?

Mumble,

- Steve


davew


On Fri, Jan 24, 2025, at 8:48 AM, glen wrote:

https://abnormalsecurity.com/blog/ghostgpt-uncensored-ai-chatbot?ref=metacurity.com

"GhostGPT is a chatbot specifically designed to cater to
cybercriminals. It likely uses a wrapper to connect to a jailbroken
version of ChatGPT or an open-source large language model (LLM),
effectively removing any ethical safeguards. By eliminating the ethical
and safety restrictions typically built into AI models, GhostGPT can
provide direct, unfiltered answers to sensitive or harmful queries that
would be blocked or flagged by traditional AI systems."

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