Re: [FRIAM] the cancellation arc

Glen - > I couldn't credibly reject epiphenomena and claim it's a labrynth. To boot, I > think the purpose of life is to find and explore the most unique niche you > can, preferably some subspace nobody else has ever been or will ever be. So, > I choose maze ... or worse ... a combinatorial infi

Re: [FRIAM] torn

Best ever. > On Sep 17, 2021, at 6:30 PM, ⛧ glen wrote: > > Ha! Which would be interesting if he didn't resign. Like his course in how > to create atheists, he offers a course in how to create victims of the King. > >> On September 17, 2021 5:44:25 PM PDT, Jon Zingale >> wrote: >> """ >> Wh

Re: [FRIAM] torn

Ha! Which would be interesting if he didn't resign. Like his course in how to create atheists, he offers a course in how to create victims of the King. On September 17, 2021 5:44:25 PM PDT, Jon Zingale wrote: >""" >When I am king >You will be first against the wall >With your opinion >Which is o

Re: [FRIAM] the cancellation arc

What do you call a Jewish Uber driver in Texas who takes women to clinics, because an upstander accepts danger and difficulty? An Uber-mensch. > On Sep 18, 2021, at 2:20 AM, Steve Smith wrote: > > >> More mob justice: >> >> US rightwing group targets academics with Professor Watchlist >> h

Re: [FRIAM] Could this possibly be true?

Hi Steve, No, not a Borges reference in that case. “Garden path sentence” is a technical term used in linguistics, specifically by syntacticians, to express nonlocalities in the parsing of sentences that are left ambiguous by subsets of the exact word sequences, but which normally take convent

Re: [FRIAM] torn

""" When I am king You will be first against the wall With your opinion Which is of no consequence at all """ *— Thom Yorke* .-- .- -. - / .- -.-. - .. --- -. ..--.. / -.-. --- -. .--- ..- --. .- - . FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Zoom Fridays 9:30a-12p Mtn UTC-6 bit.ly/virtualfriam un/s

Re: [FRIAM] the cancellation arc

I couldn't credibly reject epiphenomena and claim it's a labrynth. To boot, I think the purpose of life is to find and explore the most unique niche you can, preferably some subspace nobody else has ever been or will ever be. So, I choose maze ... or worse ... a combinatorial infinity of fractal

Re: [FRIAM] torn

He’s been carrying on like this for a while, right? Come on. Crybaby. > On Sep 17, 2021, at 5:33 PM, ⛧ glen wrote: > > Ugh. I hate it when one homunculus argues with another. But w.r.t. > Boghossian, I say good riddance. > > https://bariweiss.substack.com/p/my-university-sacrificed-ideas-f

[FRIAM] torn

Ugh. I hate it when one homunculus argues with another. But w.r.t. Boghossian, I say good riddance. https://bariweiss.substack.com/p/my-university-sacrificed-ideas-for I've been to a few of his public seminars. And he embodies the vapid atheist. When I think about my emotional response to his

Re: [FRIAM] the cancellation arc

Quick answer to your specific question below, Steve. Whether or not it says more about the concept or about my accidental window on it, of course, I cannot know. But to me, the cleanest example of a true epiphenomenon is the way neoclassical economics in its pure Arrow-Debreu form treats instit

Re: [FRIAM] the cancellation arc

Glen - I appreciate the complex candor here...  at least what I parsed out while trampling all over the text of your post , as it were (nod to EricS).  But is the garden a Labyrinth, a Maze or a Fukuokan One-Straw Revolution ? S

[FRIAM] Fwd: the cancellation arc

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Re: [FRIAM] the cancellation arc

Well, as always, some of us who are steeped and invested in some ideology will say something different from this. But pragmatic implies a set of actions, an artifact, a thing manipulated. So the million dollar question is whether any of us actually intend some outcome, and then act to obtain tha

[FRIAM] Mmm...my copy of...

"Partial Differential Equations and Related Topics" just arrived via Amazon. Reuben has two articles: 0. The Method of Transmutations 1. Stochastic Solutions of Hyperbolic Equations New Orleans, LA, USA, May of 1974. It must have been another time. The opening article in the collection: Nonline

Re: [FRIAM] Could this possibly be true?

I think the broadest characterization of the genre is unanticipated consequences. In every case we have to specify the anticipated consequences, the unanticipated consequences, and who and what is doing the anticipating. N Nick Thompson thompn

Re: [FRIAM] That was fun!

Thanks tom, The ultimate catch 22. I can have the device if, and only if, I don’t need the device. I still think of your coffee maker with gratitude. Nick Nick Thompson thompnicks...@gmail.com https

Re: [FRIAM] the cancellation arc

I agree that to the degree we might be tools in any context, it undermines the efficacy of our pragmatism, not matter what our aspirations might be.  Is "toolism" or "being a tool" formulable in terms of co-option or (voluntary) deference of personal agency?  Is there an ad-hoc formula to describe

Re: [FRIAM] That was fun!

That's a good price. However, I can give you one should you get to Santa Fe. Tom On Fri, Sep 17, 2021 at 1:01 PM wrote: > I can buy this car travel adapter for 16 bucks and it will come tomorrow. > Shall I bite? > > > > > https://www.amazon.com/Buywhat-Inverter-Converter-Adapter-Computer/dp/B07

Re: [FRIAM] the cancellation arc

Nick - > Steve, > > Isn't this the story of the 500 Spartans who, in defending Greece, backed > themselves into a canyon and fought off the Persian hoards successfully, > until some traitor showed the Persians a path around the canyon and they were > attacked from behind? Probably, sounds go

Re: [FRIAM] the cancellation arc

Steve, Isn't this the story of the 500 Spartans who, in defending Greece, backed themselves into a canyon and fought off the Persian hoards successfully, until some traitor showed the Persians a path around the canyon and they were attacked from behind? N Nick Thompson thompnicks...@gmail.co

[FRIAM] That was fun!

I can buy this car travel adapter for 16 bucks and it will come tomorrow. Shall I bite? https://www.amazon.com/Buywhat-Inverter-Converter-Adapter-Computer/dp/B07QPS 15YK/ref=sr_1_11?dchild=1

Re: [FRIAM] the cancellation arc

> More mob justice: > > US rightwing group targets academics with Professor Watchlist > https://www.theguardian.com/education/2021/sep/17/turning-point-usa-professor-watchlist Just now reading a biography of Thoreau and learning a little more about the Transcendentalists and Utopians of that str

Re: [FRIAM] the cancellation arc

Yes, if the extremism is taken on as the mechanism implementing the function (e.g. fighting advantage). But if the extremism is accidental, like most preemptive registration is, then No. Where one accidentally stumbles into an extremist position, it's not pragmatic at all. Now, if you're a tool

Re: [FRIAM] the cancellation arc

Glen - > IDK. Maybe this is simply the inescapable optimum for some people. Rosen is a > great example, ostracized and ridiculed as vitalist for so long, causing him > to be reactionary and retreat further into his own game, followed only by a > few brilliant acolytes and open-minded domain hop

[FRIAM] levels of consciousness

Yes, the subject line is a bit of a troll aimed at professed behavioralists. Using a single quantifiable measure - degree of diversity in brain activity: People have a 'baseline number' established when "awake" and "aware." People asleep, under anesthesia, in comas, or in vegetative states, have

Re: [FRIAM] in the interest of consistency

Marcus wrote: > In the interest of consistency:  No vaccination then no hemorrhoid > medication! Tangentially but not orthogonally, I take this as notice that that list of OTC meds should also not be considered Vegan, Kosher, nor Halal as well...   .-- .- -. - / .- -.-. - .. --- -.

Re: [FRIAM] Could this possibly be true?

EricS - > > 2. Before commenting on resolutions, maybe a comment more to clarify > the experience of the problem.  The use of some of these words in the > various posts leads to a reading experience for me that is like garden > path sentences.  So it is not so simple as “defining” a term.  It is >

Re: [FRIAM] Could this possibly be true?

Dear EricS, So much here, and yet I wanted to take baby steps. Let me just announce something personal, in case it’s relevant. I never had a religion. My father was an announced a-religonist (i.e., he asserted his right not to give a damn about any of that crap) and my mother an annou

Re: [FRIAM] the cancellation arc

Just look at those crazies in their Brooks Brothers suits! On Sep 17, 2021, at 8:04 AM, Steve Smith wrote:  My first thought in reading this (Glen and Jon in response/elaboration) is that we are discussing whether the universe of comprehensions is (fully) metrizeable or not. I have some con

Re: [FRIAM] the cancellation arc

My first thought in reading this (Glen and Jon in response/elaboration) is that we are discussing whether the universe of comprehensions is (fully) metrizeable or not.  I have some conjectures about (weighted) graph and network metrization which may or may not have a play in this.   I'm not enough

Re: [FRIAM] the cancellation arc

More mob justice: US rightwing group targets academics with Professor Watchlist https://www.theguardian.com/education/2021/sep/17/turning-point-usa-professor-watchlist And because the Guardian doesn't seem to link directly to it: https://professorwatchlist.org/ Is this different from doxxing na

Re: [FRIAM] in the interest of consistency

Masks are unneeded for those with their heads up their *sses. On 17 Sep 2021, at 1:53, Marcus Daniels wrote: In the interest of consistency: No vaccination then no hemorrhoid medication! https://arstechnica.com/science/2021/09/hospital-staff-must-swear-off-tylenol-tums-to-get-religious-vac

Re: [FRIAM] the cancellation arc

To be clear, I'm not calling you names for not reading a particular document. I'm simply trying to point out that this particular document [⟁] addresses your ongoing issue with epiphenomena directly and explicitly, albeit with tortuous and torturous formality. Also, your past exploration of Robe

Re: [FRIAM] Could this possibly be true?

That post, taken as a whole, with an arc, is excellent. But I want to violently slice out the part below because it's an expression of 'the Will to Simulation' that I may want to borrow one day. Your expressions retain a humanity mine never do. In particular, within this excerpt, you treat both

Re: [FRIAM] Could this possibly be true?

Hi Nick, It’s such a broom of things going on, that it is hard to respond to with orderly thought. 0. If I had a motto, it would probably be something like “Nothing is impossible; everything is hard.” But that oversimplifies too much, so I don’t have mottos. 1. To have people unable to und