Nick -
> Steve, > > Isn't this the story of the 500 Spartans who, in defending Greece, backed > themselves into a canyon and fought off the Persian hoards successfully, > until some traitor showed the Persians a path around the canyon and they were > attacked from behind? Probably, sounds good to me... it is all useful (or not) as a parable juxtaposed with Glen's "no hill to die on" which I am intuitively aligned with. Subsequently this demanded I seek a little more parallax. Do you have "a hill to die on"? Or are you more prone to the taking the "Spartan's route" (don't forget, they are also reputed to leaving their (male?) newborns out in the elements for a day or two at birth to weed out the weak... raises the threshold on the "viability" measure of when a potential-human becomes a human, no? <careening tangent?> For your interest in Corvids crossed with viability, I should let you know my resident pair (giant cottonwood out back) have just fledged 2 new offspring (first brood in 5 years at this location, best I can tell). I don't know what happens Their hatch-to-fledge period seems to be at least 6 weeks... I think our Jays are more like 3 weeks-to-fledge. Humans (except for Oliver Twist, Mowgli, and Tarzan) seem to need at least a decade and a half to fledge fully. There must be some moral implications to this. I also have a resident pair of Doves who have settled in year-round now that there is always cracked-corn out for the chickens. We get a slew (slough?) of Jays in the shoulder seasons, but I believe there are a single mated pair at any one time (serial monogamists?) who have staked a claim to my pond and chicken-scratch area (the jays, the doves, the chickens and the rock squirrels all seem to share well). - Steve .-- .- -. - / .- -.-. - .. --- -. ..--.. / -.-. --- -. .--- ..- --. .- - . FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Zoom Fridays 9:30a-12p Mtn UTC-6 bit.ly/virtualfriam un/subscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ archives: 5/2017 thru present https://redfish.com/pipermail/friam_redfish.com/ 1/2003 thru 6/2021 http://friam.383.s1.nabble.com/