Hello,
On Fri, 8 Jul 2022 at 01:28, Rugxulo wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On Thu, Jul 7, 2022 at 5:53 PM Aitor Santamaría
> wrote:
> >
> > On Fri, 8 Jul 2022 at 00:00, Rugxulo wrote:
> >>
> >> I can send you my local copy (or show you how to get it) of the 3.2.2
> >> cross-compiler (i8086-msdos) that work
On 7/7/2022 2:58 PM, Rugxulo wrote:
DeSmet C and IA16-ELF (GCC) both work fairly well (but not necessarily
every memory model).
* http://desmet-c.com/
DeSmet C has only 2 memory models (small and large, the later from v3.x
onwards) and is also using its own object file format and thus linke
Hi,
On Thu, Jul 7, 2022 at 5:53 PM Aitor Santamaría wrote:
>
> On Fri, 8 Jul 2022 at 00:00, Rugxulo wrote:
>>
>> I can send you my local copy (or show you how to get it) of the 3.2.2
>> cross-compiler (i8086-msdos) that works under latest HX pre-releases.
>> It has a built-in assembler and linke
Hello,
On Fri, 8 Jul 2022 at 00:00, Rugxulo wrote:
>
> > - Assembler - there is NASM, not compatible with MASM/WASM. I guess
> there is still (J)WASM as
> > alternative, as I assume that MASM/TASM haven't been neither open
> sourced nor actively maintained.
>
> Strictly speaking, OpenWatcom
On 7/7/2022 9:59 AM, C. Masloch wrote:
On at 2022-07-07 09:39 -0700, Ralf Quint wrote:
Similar with NASM, where for some weird reasons, they made the
assembler case-sensitive, which I would consider utter nonsense (also
among my griefs with C(++)). And it really bites you if you are
trying to
Hi,
On Thu, Jul 7, 2022 at 12:50 PM Aitor Santamaría wrote:
>
> I haven't been following much of what happens with the different assemblers
> these days, but my idea is
> that the same thing as with C or Pascal happens: as much as TASM or MASM are
> nice products, there
> are hardly open source
Hello,
I haven't been following much of what happens with the different assemblers
these days, but my idea is that the same thing as with C or Pascal happens:
as much as TASM or MASM are nice products, there are hardly open source
actively maintained products that are compatible with them, and hen
On at 2022-07-07 09:39 -0700, Ralf Quint wrote:
Similar with NASM, where for some weird reasons, they made the assembler
case-sensitive, which I would consider utter nonsense (also among my
griefs with C(++)). And it really bites you if you are trying to link
assembler modules with other progra
On 7/2/2022 10:37 AM, Travis Siegel wrote:
Masm, Tasm, and others all have their own syntax which confuses me
more than helping.
Well, that is not quite correct. And it would be obvious if you did x86
assembler in the early '80s. MASM (and basically TASM (as in Borland
Turbo Assembler)) is
> What i don't like about A86 is that allows you to do stuff that is
> actually "forbidden".
>
> For instance, from what i remember, A86 allows you to do something
> like:
>
> MOV ES, B800h
>
> This is absolutely not supported by the CPU, and you need to use a
> general purpose register to move a v
Hi,
On Tue, Jul 5, 2022 at 12:59 PM Carlos Teixeira wrote:
>
> What i don't like about A86 is that allows you to do stuff that is actually
> "forbidden".
I believe A86 intends to be "mostly" compatible with old MASM v5, but
it does have some shortcuts and enhancements.
> For instance, from wha
What i don't like about A86 is that allows you to do stuff that is actually
"forbidden".
For instance, from what i remember, A86 allows you to do something like:
MOV ES, B800h
This is absolutely not supported by the CPU, and you need to use a general
purpose register to move a value onto a segm
Santiago Almenara:
> What book or webpage do you recommend to learn some DOS
> assembler?
At https://freeshell.de/~antonius/file_host/MSDOSASM.zip
I have some books that you may find of use:
1. Advanced MS-DOS Programming, by Ray Duncan
2. Programmer's Technical Reference for MSDOS and t
Hi,
On Sun, Jul 3, 2022 at 9:39 AM Bret Johnson wrote:
>
> > Interestingly enough, I also bought a86/D86, and have found it to be
> > the best assembler/disassembler I've ever found for dos. I ran
> > across it after (mostly) trying to use debug for things, so it was a
> > welcome relief.
>
> I
> Interestingly enough, I also bought a86/D86, and have found it to be
> the best assembler/disassembler I've ever found for dos. I ran
> across it after (mostly) trying to use debug for things, so it was a
> welcome relief.
I still like A86/A386 also, but like I said my programs are getting so
s (Santiago Almenara)
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>> To: "freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net"
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>> Subject:
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> Date: Sat, 2 Jul 2022 13:12:03 +0000
> From: Ben Collver
> To: "freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net"
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> Subject: Re: [Freedos-user] DOS ASM resources
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> sn6pr1
Thank you for the answers. I've been following all the links you've sent
I'll also follow the advice and try to understand some project like DOSLFN.
(source code is only 220k)
Santiago
El jue, 30 jun 2022 a la(s) 13:19, C. Masloch (pus...@ulukai.org) escribió:
> On at 2022-06-30 10:00 -0500, S
Interestingly enough, I also bought a86/D86, and have found it to be the
best assembler/disassembler I've ever found for dos. I ran across it
after (mostly) trying to use debug for things, so it was a welcome
relief. I still use it when working on dos things, which admittedly
isn't very often
I made a mistake pasting a URL into my last post.
OLD: http://ref.x86asm.net/coder32.htmlhttp://www.eji.com/a86/
NEW: http://ref.x86asm.net/coder32.html
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...somehow those two URL's got fused together:
http://ref.x86asm.net/coder32.html
http://www.eji.com/a86/
Frank
On 2 Jul 2022 at 15:08, Bryan Kilgallin wrote:
> Ben:
>
> > http://ref.x86asm.net/coder32.htmlhttp://www.eji.com/a86/
>
> {Not Found
>
> The requested URL was not found on this serv
Ben:
http://ref.x86asm.net/coder32.htmlhttp://www.eji.com/a86/
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Santiago:
I agree pretty much with ECM. The best way to learn is to look at the code
someone else has written and try to understand it. Unfortunately, most ASM
coders aren't very good at comments/documentation, and you really need the
comments to help you figure things out. Looking at uncomm
PCGPE and the VLA Tutorials.
http://bespin.org/~qz/pc-gpe/
On Thu, Jun 30, 2022 at 11:19 AM C. Masloch wrote:
> On at 2022-06-30 10:00 -0500, Santiago Almenara wrote:
> > Hello!
> >
> > What book or webpage do you recommend to learn some DOS assembler?
> >
> > Thanks in advance
> >
> > Santiago
I learned DOS asm from the following book, recommended by a friend.
Using Assembly Language by Allen Wyatt, published by Que
At that time i preferred to use the a86 assembler.
http://www.eji.com/a86/
Below is a link to PC Assembly Language by Paul Carter:
https://pacman128.github.io/static/pcasm-
On at 2022-06-30 10:00 -0500, Santiago Almenara wrote:
Hello!
What book or webpage do you recommend to learn some DOS assembler?
Thanks in advance
Santiago
I learned primarily using these methods:
1. Read existing code and try to understand it. Even better, start with
higher-level commenta
Hello!
What book or webpage do you recommend to learn some DOS assembler?
Thanks in advance
Santiago
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