Re: Something since June 8th clobbers my disk...

2009-06-13 Thread Gary Kline
On Fri, Jun 12, 2009 at 11:24:07PM -0700, Kent Stewart wrote: > On Friday 12 June 2009 08:24:42 pm Gary Kline wrote: > > On Fri, Jun 12, 2009 at 08:45:01PM -0600, Dan Allen wrote: > > > On 12 Jun 2009, at 6:32 AM, John Baldwin wrote: > > > >On Thursday 11 June 2009 9:33:24 pm Dan Allen wrote: > > >

Re: Something since June 8th clobbers my disk...

2009-06-13 Thread Kent Stewart
On Saturday 13 June 2009 12:08:17 am Gary Kline wrote: > On Fri, Jun 12, 2009 at 11:24:07PM -0700, Kent Stewart wrote: > > On Friday 12 June 2009 08:24:42 pm Gary Kline wrote: > > > On Fri, Jun 12, 2009 at 08:45:01PM -0600, Dan Allen wrote: > > > > On 12 Jun 2009, at 6:32 AM, John Baldwin wrote: >

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2009-06-13 Thread Exemys
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reecommendations for an 'appliance" platform ?

2009-06-13 Thread Pete French
I am looking to deploy a couple of hundered system, which are supposed to attach to a network and be plug-in-and-go. I am thinking of doing this with a FreeBSD installation, duplicated onto flash cards, and dumped into some off-the-sheelt hardware. The questions I, what hardware ? I've done some r

Re: Something since June 8th clobbers my disk...

2009-06-13 Thread Dan Allen
On 12 Jun 2009, at 9:50 PM, Yuri Pankov wrote: On Fri, Jun 12, 2009 at 08:24:42PM -0700, Gary Kline wrote: Whew!! i'm giving thanks to every saint, god and daemon known. i rebuilt my kernel in very recent days (7.2) on my ancient 500MHz kayak, but did not go further.

Re: Something since June 8th clobbers my disk...

2009-06-13 Thread Dan Allen
On 11 Jun 2009, at 5:41 PM, Paul B. Mahol wrote: Looks like boot(8) is problematic. Okay, here is the June 13th noon update to this problem. I once again installed a May 28th build. Rebuilt world and kernel from source. Everything works great. No custom kernel, just GENERIC. I then me

Re: Something since June 8th clobbers my disk...

2009-06-13 Thread Paul B. Mahol
On 6/13/09, Dan Allen wrote: > > On 12 Jun 2009, at 6:32 AM, John Baldwin wrote: > >> On Thursday 11 June 2009 9:33:24 pm Dan Allen wrote: >>> Isn't boot part of the kernel build? Why would installing the kernel >>> not cause this problem? >> >> No, sys/boot is built during world. Likely some ch

Re: reecommendations for an 'appliance" platform ?

2009-06-13 Thread Clifton Royston
On Sat, Jun 13, 2009 at 05:45:49PM +0100, Pete French wrote: > I am looking to deploy a couple of hundered system, which are supposed > to attach to a network and be plug-in-and-go. I am thinking of doing > this with a FreeBSD installation, duplicated onto flash cards, and > dumped into some off-th

Re: reecommendations for an 'appliance" platform ?

2009-06-13 Thread Clifton Royston
Sorry for the self-followup; correcting an incorrect URL. On Sat, Jun 13, 2009 at 09:54:52AM -1000, Clifton Royston wrote: ... > due to the two Ethernet ports and low power consumption, and put the > pfSense package on it (FreeBSD 7.1-based) for a firewall; it runs a > packet filtering bridge wi

Re: reecommendations for an 'appliance" platform ?

2009-06-13 Thread Pete French
> I'm not 100% sure, but fairly sure that you'll have a hard time > finding something that combines the low-power standalone type spec with > a 64-bit capable processor. Once you get the higher-end processor, That was my experiense when shopping around yes - annoying as I don't need anything pa

Re: Something since June 8th clobbers my disk...

2009-06-13 Thread Dan Allen
On 13 Jun 2009, at 12:50 PM, Paul B. Mahol wrote: I doubt it is loader fault, from your description it appears that loader is never started. Could you try to remove -DLOADER_ZFS_SUPPORT from Makefile? /usr/src/sys/boot/i386/loader/Makefile BINGO! LOADER_ZFS_SUPPORT is the culprit. I rebu

Let's back out LOADER_ZFS_SUPPORT from STABLE

2009-06-13 Thread Dan Allen
I have now proven that the recent post June 8th version of /usr/src/sys/boot/i386/loader/Makefile causes catastrophic data loss. Why on earth would this change not be immediately rolled back out of the STABLE branch? For those on the bleeding edge with CURRENT they expect to lose t

Re: Something since June 8th clobbers my disk...

2009-06-13 Thread Dan Allen
On 13 Jun 2009, at 2:41 PM, Dan Allen wrote: On 13 Jun 2009, at 12:50 PM, Paul B. Mahol wrote: I doubt it is loader fault, from your description it appears that loader is never started. Could you try to remove -DLOADER_ZFS_SUPPORT from Makefile? /usr/src/sys/boot/i386/loader/Makefile BI

Re: reecommendations for an 'appliance" platform ?

2009-06-13 Thread Luigi Rizzo
On Sat, Jun 13, 2009 at 09:13:34PM +0100, Pete French wrote: > > I'm not 100% sure, but fairly sure that you'll have a hard time > > finding something that combines the low-power standalone type spec with > > a 64-bit capable processor. Once you get the higher-end processor, > > That was my exp

Re: Let's back out LOADER_ZFS_SUPPORT from STABLE

2009-06-13 Thread Kip Macy
On Sat, Jun 13, 2009 at 1:53 PM, Dan Allen wrote: > I have now proven that the recent post June 8th version of > >        /usr/src/sys/boot/i386/loader/Makefile > > causes catastrophic data loss. Then it should be disabled by default until the problem is fixed. > Why on earth would this change no

Re: reecommendations for an 'appliance" platform ?

2009-06-13 Thread Aragon Gouveia
Hi, Pete French wrote: I'm not 100% sure, but fairly sure that you'll have a hard time finding something that combines the low-power standalone type spec with a 64-bit capable processor. Once you get the higher-end processor, That was my experiense when shopping around yes - annoying as I d

Re: Something since June 8th clobbers my disk...

2009-06-13 Thread Gary Kline
On Sat, Jun 13, 2009 at 12:41:55PM -0600, Dan Allen wrote: > > On 11 Jun 2009, at 5:41 PM, Paul B. Mahol wrote: > > >Looks like boot(8) is problematic. > > Okay, here is the June 13th noon update to this problem. > > I once again installed a May 28th build. Rebuilt world and kernel > from so

Re: reecommendations for an 'appliance" platform ?

2009-06-13 Thread Pete French
> http://www.tranquilpc-shop.co.uk/acatalog/T7-330_Barebones.html Now *that* is very much what I am thinking of - OK, I will need to drop in a CF->SATA along with the card, but thats not much hassle. 64 bit and I can add in more RAM than on the other. Thanks, I hadn't realised the new ATonms did 6

Re: reecommendations for an 'appliance" platform ?

2009-06-13 Thread Aragon Gouveia
Pete French wrote: http://www.tranquilpc-shop.co.uk/acatalog/T7-330_Barebones.html Now *that* is very much what I am thinking of - OK, I will need to drop in a CF->SATA along with the card, but thats not much hassle. 64 bit and I can add in more RAM than on the other. Thanks, I hadn't realised

Re: Let's back out LOADER_ZFS_SUPPORT from STABLE

2009-06-13 Thread Paul B. Mahol
On 6/13/09, Dan Allen wrote: > I have now proven that the recent post June 8th version of > > /usr/src/sys/boot/i386/loader/Makefile > > causes catastrophic data loss. > > Why on earth would this change not be immediately rolled back out of > the STABLE branch? For those on the bleeding edg

Re: Let's back out LOADER_ZFS_SUPPORT from STABLE

2009-06-13 Thread Dan Allen
On 13 Jun 2009, at 5:42 PM, Paul B. Mahol wrote: On 6/13/09, Dan Allen wrote: I have now proven that the recent post June 8th version of /usr/src/sys/boot/i386/loader/Makefile causes catastrophic data loss. I hardly doubt that such change cause loss of data on entire drive. There

Re: reecommendations for an 'appliance" platform ?

2009-06-13 Thread Mike Andrews
On Sat, 13 Jun 2009, Aragon Gouveia wrote: Hi, Pete French wrote: I'm not 100% sure, but fairly sure that you'll have a hard time finding something that combines the low-power standalone type spec with a 64-bit capable processor. Once you get the higher-end processor, That was my experien

Re: reecommendations for an 'appliance" platform ?

2009-06-13 Thread Danny Braniss
> > I'm not 100% sure, but fairly sure that you'll have a hard time > > finding something that combines the low-power standalone type spec with > > a 64-bit capable processor. Once you get the higher-end processor, > > That was my experiense when shopping around yes - annoying as I > don't need

Re: Let's back out LOADER_ZFS_SUPPORT from STABLE

2009-06-13 Thread Peter Jeremy
On 2009-Jun-13 17:56:49 -0600, Dan Allen wrote: >How do I get to the old loader when the machine boots and immediately >stops? There is no ability at this point in the boot process to try >and get to the old loader that I know of. Is there a hidden magic key >combination that allows this?