Re: Dummynet and simulating random delay

2007-01-27 Thread Bruce M. Simpson
Luigi Rizzo wrote: On Wed, Jan 24, 2007 at 06:10:21PM +1100, Peter Jeremy wrote: On Tue, 2007-Jan-23 14:22:54 -0500, Andresen, Jason R. wrote: I have a project that requires me to simulate a link with varying but well defined delay. The link is guarenteed to deliver packets in order, s

How to start rc script after sshd starts?

2007-01-27 Thread Vinny Abello
Hello, I think this is a relatively easy question to answer but couldn't find anything after some searching. I'm running: FreeBSD engbox.tellurian.net 6.2-STABLE FreeBSD 6.2-STABLE #0: Sat Jan 27 00:37:31 EST 2007 (yeah, pretty recent as of this email) :) I have a daemon that apparently does

Re: Loosing spam fight

2007-01-27 Thread Pete French
> Except that the original mail was talking about greylisting. This won't > reject any mail sent from a MTA that correctly implements SMTP. According > to the SMTP specs, I am perfectly at liberty to tell you that I can't > accept your mail right now, please try again later. =20 But isn't the po

Re: Loosing spam fight

2007-01-27 Thread JoaoBR
On Saturday 27 January 2007 02:16, Peter Jeremy wrote: > On Fri, 2007-Jan-26 09:24:58 -0200, JoaoBR wrote: > >like I said, for my understandings firewall implemention for spam fighting > > is wrong > > > >because you reject the message > > Except that the original mail was talking about greylisting

Re: Loosing spam fight

2007-01-27 Thread Roland Smith
On Sat, Jan 27, 2007 at 10:58:46AM -0200, JoaoBR wrote: > also a point to think about, most complains about spam talk about bandwidth > consumption, by asking for resend later you certainly increase bandwidth > consumption and resources on both sides Most spammers do not bother to return if the

Re: Loosing spam fight

2007-01-27 Thread JoaoBR
On Saturday 27 January 2007 12:10, you wrote: > On Sat, Jan 27, 2007 at 10:58:46AM -0200, JoaoBR wrote: > > also a point to think about, most complains about spam talk about > > bandwidth consumption, by asking for resend later you certainly increase > > bandwidth consumption and resources on both

Re: Loosing spam fight

2007-01-27 Thread Roland Smith
On Sat, Jan 27, 2007 at 09:32:54AM -0500, Jim Pingle wrote: > To defeat this, wouldn't a spammer just have to send out the same spam twice > in a row from the same machines, spaced apart by a little time? Yes. But in practice, most spammers don't bother. They don't use a real SMTP server, but cust

Re: Loosing spam fight

2007-01-27 Thread JoaoBR
On Saturday 27 January 2007 12:32, Jim Pingle wrote: > Roland Smith wrote: > > Most spammers do not bother to return if they get a resend request. > > That's the whole point of doing this. So practically it doesn't increase > > bandwidth consumption. > ... > Greylisting is a decent idea, but it see

Re: Loosing spam fight

2007-01-27 Thread Jim Pingle
Roland Smith wrote: > Most spammers do not bother to return if they get a resend request. > That's the whole point of doing this. So practically it doesn't increase > bandwidth consumption. This conversation is getting rather OT for -stable, but I felt the need to ask a question: To defeat this,

Re: Loosing spam fight

2007-01-27 Thread Roland Smith
On Sat, Jan 27, 2007 at 12:57:08PM -0200, JoaoBR wrote: > On Saturday 27 January 2007 12:10, you wrote: > > On Sat, Jan 27, 2007 at 10:58:46AM -0200, JoaoBR wrote: > > > also a point to think about, most complains about spam talk about > > > bandwidth consumption, by asking for resend later you cer

Re: Loosing spam fight -> [EMAIL PROTECTED]

2007-01-27 Thread Simon L. Nielsen
On 2007.01.27 13:04:28 -0200, JoaoBR wrote: > On Saturday 27 January 2007 12:32, Jim Pingle wrote: > > Roland Smith wrote: > > > Most spammers do not bother to return if they get a resend request. > > > That's the whole point of doing this. So practically it doesn't increase > > > bandwidth consump

Re: How to start rc script after sshd starts?

2007-01-27 Thread Scot Hetzel
On 1/27/07, Vinny Abello <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hello, I think this is a relatively easy question to answer but couldn't find anything after some searching. : I have a daemon that apparently does a check using ssh-keyscan against the loopback address when it starts up. The problem I have

Re: Loosing spam fight

2007-01-27 Thread JoaoBR
On Saturday 27 January 2007 13:04, Roland Smith wrote: > > That's not a bonus. Think about it. Sending a message twice will cut the > spammer's mail delivery rate at least in half. > nobody cares about this, what counts is the hit rate, more you get delivered merrier the return, that means more y

Re: Loosing spam fight -> [EMAIL PROTECTED]

2007-01-27 Thread Wilko Bulte
On Sat, Jan 27, 2007 at 04:23:13PM +0100, Simon L. Nielsen wrote.. > On 2007.01.27 13:04:28 -0200, JoaoBR wrote: > > On Saturday 27 January 2007 12:32, Jim Pingle wrote: > > > Roland Smith wrote: > > > > Most spammers do not bother to return if they get a resend request. > > > > That's the whole po

Re: Loosing spam fight -> [EMAIL PROTECTED]

2007-01-27 Thread JoaoBR
On Saturday 27 January 2007 13:23, Simon L. Nielsen wrote: > > Could this discussion please be continued on the apropriate list which > is designed for spam - [EMAIL PROTECTED] > lists.freebsd.org Mailing Lists No such list devnull could you please provide correct information in order to follow

Re: Loosing spam fight

2007-01-27 Thread Roland Smith
On Sat, Jan 27, 2007 at 01:04:28PM -0200, JoaoBR wrote: > > Greylisting is a decent idea, but it seems to me that it's just another > > tool in the ongoing arms race against spammers. It may work for a while, > > but eventually they'll catch on and it will only cause unnecessary delays > > for legi

Re: Loosing spam fight

2007-01-27 Thread JoaoBR
On Saturday 27 January 2007 13:39, Roland Smith wrote: > On Sat, Jan 27, 2007 at 01:04:28PM -0200, JoaoBR wrote: > > > Greylisting is a decent idea, but it seems to me that it's just another > > > tool in the ongoing arms race against spammers. It may work for a > > > while, but eventually they'll

Re: Loosing spam fight -> [EMAIL PROTECTED]

2007-01-27 Thread Trond Endrestøl
On Sat, 27 Jan 2007 13:34-0200, JoaoBR wrote: > could you please provide correct information in order to follow your > instructions? plz ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe

Re: Loosing spam fight

2007-01-27 Thread Torfinn Ingolfsen
On Sat, 27 Jan 2007 13:50:26 -0200 JoaoBR <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > that is certainly a technical and political excuse which nobody want > to hear for getting email late, because the common understanding is > getting an email on earth within some minutes everybody: ENOUGH ALREADY! Take this d

impossible rc.d ordering problem with stf and pf ?

2007-01-27 Thread Pete French
Am trying to solve a little problem with 'pf'. I have a ruleset which has some firewall rules for the IPv6 interface stf0. This works fine, except when I rreboot the machine, as the pf script is run before the network_ipv6 script - so stf0 does not exist. but I cannot work out how to arrange for st

Re: Loosing spam fight

2007-01-27 Thread JoaoBR
On Saturday 27 January 2007 14:19, Torfinn Ingolfsen wrote: > everybody: ENOUGH ALREADY! > Take this discussion off the -stable list! are you my boss or something? go swimming in your fjord, eat some lemmings and cool down man -- João A mensagem foi scaneada pelo sistema de e-mail e po

mpt problems. (Re: Dell hardware raid 0 (sas5ir) or gmirror?)

2007-01-27 Thread Josef Karthauser
On Mon, Jan 15, 2007 at 09:21:08AM -0600, Joe Koberg wrote: > > I just bought two Dell PE-1950's to use as routers. They have LSI Logic > PERC/5i's attached to 80GB SATA drives. I am pretty sure this is the > same card used for SAS. > > One thing is for sure, the mfi(4) card and driver aren't

Re: mpt problems. (Re: Dell hardware raid 0 (sas5ir) or gmirror?)

2007-01-27 Thread Juraj Lutter
On 1/27/07, Josef Karthauser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: The problem is that the synchronisation appears to progress ok, but when I add some additional load, like cvsuping the ports collection at the same time, after a short period I get loads of errors from the mpt controller and then geom discon

Enough already [was: Re: Loosing spam fight]

2007-01-27 Thread freebsd
On 2007-01-27, JoaoBR wrote: > On Saturday 27 January 2007 14:19, Torfinn Ingolfsen wrote: > > everybody: ENOUGH ALREADY! > > Take this discussion off the -stable list! > > are you my boss or something? > go swimming in your fjord, eat some lemmings and cool down man No, he's not your boss. You

Re: mpt problems. (Re: Dell hardware raid 0 (sas5ir) or gmirror?)

2007-01-27 Thread Clayton Milos
On Mon, Jan 15, 2007 at 09:21:08AM -0600, Joe Koberg wrote: I just bought two Dell PE-1950's to use as routers. They have LSI Logic PERC/5i's attached to 80GB SATA drives. I am pretty sure this is the same card used for SAS. One thing is for sure, the mfi(4) card and driver aren't shy! See be

Re: 6.2 buildworld fails with NO_SHARED

2007-01-27 Thread Bill Vermillion
Even though on Fri, Jan 26, 2007 at 11:15 Dan Nelson realized that everything he says should be taken 'cum grano salis', he unhesitatingly continued with this missive: Took me awhile to get some time to try this again - wjv > In the last episode (Jan 26), Bill Vermillion said: > > I had wanted

Re: panic: kmem_malloc boot error w/ 6.2

2007-01-27 Thread David Malone
On Sat, Jan 27, 2007 at 09:22:43AM +0200, Pekka Savola wrote: > malloc(c0d40100,c06eab00,2,c620dc00,c5ff6600,...) at malloc+0x81 This is a very big malloc (0xc0d40100 bytes) - it looks like a pointer has been passed instead of a size. > g_read_data(c60fb480,0,0,c0d40100,0,0) at g_read_data+0x3c

Re: impossible rc.d ordering problem with stf and pf ?

2007-01-27 Thread Roland Smith
On Sat, Jan 27, 2007 at 06:23:27PM +, Pete French wrote: > Am trying to solve a little problem with 'pf'. I have a ruleset which > has some firewall rules for the IPv6 interface stf0. This works fine, > except when I rreboot the machine, as the pf script is run before the > network_ipv6 script

Re: Enough already [was: Re: Loosing spam fight]

2007-01-27 Thread JoaoBR
On Saturday 27 January 2007 20:46, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > No, he's not your boss.  You, on the other hand, are a moron and a > complete menace to the usefulness of this mailing list.  Take your > whining about whatever it is to some place that wants to hear it and > leave the FreeBSD-stable lis

Re: 6.2 buildworld fails with NO_SHARED

2007-01-27 Thread Scot Hetzel
On 1/27/07, Bill Vermillion <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: No real problem there, but that brings up another question. If - as documented in make.conf(5) - I put use the variable NO_DYNAMIC_ROOT it says "set this is you do not want to link /bin and /sbin dynamically". Would that be the way to build

Re: 6.2 buildworld fails with NO_SHARED

2007-01-27 Thread Bill Vermillion
Deep in the forest in the dark of night on Sat, Jan 27, 2007 at 19:23 with a cackle and an evil grin Scot Hetzel cast another eye of newt into the brew and chanted: > On 1/27/07, Bill Vermillion <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >No real problem there, but that brings up another question. > >If - as d

Re: atacontrol kernel crash (atausb?)

2007-01-27 Thread M. Warner Losh
In message: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hans Petter Selasky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: : Instead of having all these quirks, isn't it possible that the SCSI layer can : auto-probe this? The short answer is no. There's no reliable way to tell if a device supports a given scsi command, and so

Re: Enough already [was: Re: Loosing spam fight]

2007-01-27 Thread Joe Holden
JoaoBR wrote: On Saturday 27 January 2007 20:46, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No, he's not your boss. You, on the other hand, are a moron and a complete menace to the usefulness of this mailing list. Take your whining about whatever it is to some place that wants to hear it and leave the FreeBSD-s

rd.d/power_profile: dev.cpu.0.cx_supported doesn't exist

2007-01-27 Thread Lars Stokholm
Hi, After updating to 6.2-STABLE Sun Jan 28 02:57:55 CET 2007 (GENERIC), I get an error on startup from sysctl, because dev.cpu.0.cx_supported doesn't exist. I think I tracked it down to this update: http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/src/etc/rc.d/power_profile.diff?r1=1.9&r2=1.10&f=h I g

Re: 6.2 buildworld fails with NO_SHARED

2007-01-27 Thread Eugene Grosbein
On Fri, Jan 26, 2007 at 11:10:22AM -0500, Bill Vermillion wrote: > I had wanted to build static binaries in /bin and /sbin - so > I set NO_SHARED. The man pages says "... this can be bad. If set > every utility that uses bsd.prog.mk will be linked statically." Have you tried NO_DYNAMICROOT? It's