Re: Laptop choices

2005-11-29 Thread Stijn Hoop
On Tue, Nov 29, 2005 at 10:28:23AM +, Nick Barnes wrote: > At 2005-11-29 10:19:17+, "Greg 'groggy' Lehey" writes: > > On Thursday, 24 November 2005 at 11:17:41 -0500, > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > > > On the [Dell] warrenty... I'm hard on equipment and I depend on my > > > equipm

Re: Laptop choices

2005-11-29 Thread Nick Barnes
At 2005-11-29 10:19:17+, "Greg 'groggy' Lehey" writes: > On Thursday, 24 November 2005 at 11:17:41 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > On the [Dell] warrenty... I'm hard on equipment and I depend on my > > equipment. I've been impressed that if I put my foot down and "say" > > that I belie

Re: Laptop choices

2005-11-29 Thread Greg 'groggy' Lehey
On Thursday, 24 November 2005 at 11:17:41 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > On the [Dell] warrenty... I'm hard on equipment and I depend on my > equipment. I've been impressed that if I put my foot down and "say" > that I believe something needs replacing, then without much fuss, > they do it.

Re: Laptop choices

2005-11-24 Thread freebsd-lists
> "Gary" == Gary Kline <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: [on the merrits of my D800 laptop] Gary> Do you lease or buy most hardware? I've never crunched cost Gary> vs return on computers, but it seems likly that leasing might Gary> win here. Brand new machine every 18 months; what a deal. In G

RE: Laptop choices

2005-11-24 Thread freebsd-lists
> "Sune" == Sune Wettersteen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Sune> #Am I better off installing 5.4 or 6.0? Sune> I'd say you should go with 6.0. It features much better wireless Sune> support and I'm sure theres some acpi changes you could benefit Sune> from. I'd vote 6.0, too. I've actually be

Re: Laptop choices

2005-11-24 Thread freebsd-lists
> "Gary" == Gary Kline <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> >> Of course, this is not a Thinkpad clone, but it is a very good >> laptop >> nonetheless (especially the awesome 15.4" 1920x1200 >> screen). >> > >> > That is *outsanding* resolution!!! I'm looking at some real > >> good deals on ebay ..

Re: Laptop choices

2005-11-23 Thread David Scheidt
On Wed, Nov 23, 2005 at 03:36:07PM -0500, Parv wrote: > in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, wrote Gary Kline > thusly... > > > > I'm looking for a newer laptop (a newer, faster ThinkPad, > > probably). There are ' some seriously cheap laptops "on-sale", > > but they would probably be a bad choice beca

Re: Laptop choices

2005-11-23 Thread Gary Kline
On Wed, Nov 23, 2005 at 03:36:07PM -0500, Parv wrote: > in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, wrote Gary Kline > thusly... > > > > I'm looking for a newer laptop (a newer, faster ThinkPad, > > probably). There are ' some seriously cheap laptops "on-sale", > > but they would probably be a bad choice beca

Re: Laptop choices

2005-11-23 Thread Peter Goetz
I have an IBM Thinkpad R51with a Radeon Mobility 9000 M9. It works quite well with FreeBSD 5.4. The only issue I have, is that I cannot have 3d-acceleration and at the same time have suspend-to-ram support. (Theres a huge difference noticable when I run glxgears) The device section in my xorg.c

RE: Laptop choices

2005-11-23 Thread Sune Wettersteen
#Subject: Laptop choices #Am currently trying to choose between a couple of laptops, the luck #winner of which will have Freebsd loaded alongside WinXP. #Dell Latitude d600 with Radeon 9000? video, intel pro wireless #or #IBM R51 - Intel Extreme2, intel pro wireless. #The main differences will l

Re: Laptop choices

2005-11-23 Thread Gary Kline
On Wed, Nov 23, 2005 at 09:05:05PM +0100, Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote: > On Wednesday, 23 November 2005 at 11:42:17 -0800, Gary Kline wrote: > > On Wed, Nov 23, 2005 at 08:19:07PM +0100, Bartosz Fabianowski wrote: > >>> Or, can the touch pads be disabled in the bios? > >> > >> I have a Dell Inspiron

Re: Laptop choices

2005-11-23 Thread Parv
in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, wrote Gary Kline thusly... > > I'm looking for a newer laptop (a newer, faster ThinkPad, > probably). There are ' some seriously cheap laptops "on-sale", > but they would probably be a bad choice because they have those > touch/scratch mouse-pad things that I can't

Re: Laptop choices

2005-11-23 Thread Bartosz Fabianowski
It's so much better than the standard 1024x768 that you have to see it to understand. At least in my experience, it also makes people call you nuts all the time. I am using tiny fonts for things that are not as important (like menu bars, for example) and bit fonts for text that I really want t

Re: Laptop choices

2005-11-23 Thread Greg 'groggy' Lehey
On Wednesday, 23 November 2005 at 11:42:17 -0800, Gary Kline wrote: > On Wed, Nov 23, 2005 at 08:19:07PM +0100, Bartosz Fabianowski wrote: >>> Or, can the touch pads be disabled in the bios? >> >> I have a Dell Inspiron 8600C, which only has a touch pad. ... >> >> Of course, this is not a Thinkpad

Re: Laptop choices

2005-11-23 Thread Gary Kline
On Wed, Nov 23, 2005 at 08:19:07PM +0100, Bartosz Fabianowski wrote: > >Or, can the touch pads be disabled in the bios? > > I have a Dell Inspiron 8600C, which only has a touch pad. *But* its > immediate predecessor, the 8600, had a track pad and one of those little > pink joysticks (what are th

Re: Laptop choices

2005-11-23 Thread Bartosz Fabianowski
Or, can the touch pads be disabled in the bios? I have a Dell Inspiron 8600C, which only has a touch pad. *But* its immediate predecessor, the 8600, had a track pad and one of those little pink joysticks (what are they called anyway?) and I know for a fact that the keyboard and wrist rest in

Re: Laptop choices

2005-11-23 Thread Gary Kline
On Wed, Nov 23, 2005 at 11:57:30AM +0100, Uwe Laverenz wrote: > On Wed, Nov 23, 2005 at 12:38:05PM +1030, Daniel O'Connor wrote: > > > I'd say the Dell's video is more likely to work (even 3d). > > The graphics work perfectly on my Thinkpad R51 (Radeon 9000), > including 3D acceleration/dri. Ther

Re: Laptop choices

2005-11-23 Thread Steve O'Hara-Smith
On Wed, 23 Nov 2005 12:01:09 +0100 Marwan Burelle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > So, yes, you may have full support, but you won't see the difference > for 3D accel (I have an ATI card fully supported, when hardware accel > becomes available for me, it doesn't realy change anything ... ) On

Re: Laptop choices

2005-11-23 Thread Bruno Ducrot
On Tue, Nov 22, 2005 at 05:12:46PM -0800, Graham North wrote: > Am currently trying to choose between a couple of laptops, the luck > winner of which will have Freebsd loaded alongside WinXP. > > Dell Latitude d600 with Radeon 9000? video, intel pro wireless > or > IBM R51 - Intel Extreme2, intel

Re: Laptop choices

2005-11-23 Thread Marwan Burelle
On Wed, Nov 23, 2005 at 04:01:25AM +0100, Bartosz Fabianowski wrote: > >Mmm, the radeon man page claims Radeon 9000's are supported without > >caveats. > > Oops, I sent my initial reply off-list. To summarize for everybody else: > Yes, you're right; I was thinking the Radeon 9000 was a newer chi

Re: Laptop choices

2005-11-23 Thread Uwe Laverenz
On Wed, Nov 23, 2005 at 12:38:05PM +1030, Daniel O'Connor wrote: > I'd say the Dell's video is more likely to work (even 3d). The graphics work perfectly on my Thinkpad R51 (Radeon 9000), including 3D acceleration/dri. There are different R51 models with different graphic chipsets available IIRC.

Re: Laptop choices

2005-11-22 Thread Graham North
Hello Daniel and Bartosz: Thank you for such prompt and helpful replies. Sounds like the Dell's ATI will work just fine. Graham/ Bartosz Fabianowski wrote: Mmm, the radeon man page claims Radeon 9000's are supported without caveats. Oops, I sent my initial reply off-list. To summarize

Re: Laptop choices

2005-11-22 Thread Bartosz Fabianowski
Mmm, the radeon man page claims Radeon 9000's are supported without caveats. Oops, I sent my initial reply off-list. To summarize for everybody else: Yes, you're right; I was thinking the Radeon 9000 was a newer chip, while it is an oder one (an rv250), which has been fully supported for a wh

Re: Laptop choices

2005-11-22 Thread Daniel O'Connor
On Wed, 23 Nov 2005 12:43, Bartosz Fabianowski wrote: > > I'd say the Dell's video is more likely to work (even 3d). > > Well, not quite yet. X.Org 6.8 doesn't have any 3D support for modern > Radeon chips and the forthcoming 6.9/7.0 will have "experimental" > support. But 2D is working just fine (

Re: Laptop choices

2005-11-22 Thread Bartosz Fabianowski
I'd say the Dell's video is more likely to work (even 3d). Well, not quite yet. X.Org 6.8 doesn't have any 3D support for modern Radeon chips and the forthcoming 6.9/7.0 will have "experimental" support. But 2D is working just fine (I am typing this on an Inspiron 8600C with ATI Radeon). I

Re: Laptop choices

2005-11-22 Thread Daniel O'Connor
On Wed, 23 Nov 2005 11:42, Graham North wrote: > Am currently trying to choose between a couple of laptops, the luck > winner of which will have Freebsd loaded alongside WinXP. > > Dell Latitude d600 with Radeon 9000? video, intel pro wireless > or > IBM R51 - Intel Extreme2, intel pro wireless. >