Re: Why is sendmail is part of the system and not a package?

2009-10-27 Thread Jonathan McKeown
On Monday 26 October 2009 21:29:27 Yuri wrote: > It's in /usr/sbin/sendmail. > > How many people actually use it? Very few. > Why isn't it moved to ports? What is this anti-sendmail obsession people have? Almost everyone I've ever spoken to about why they dislike sendmail trots out a bunch of cl

Re: Why is sendmail is part of the system and not a package?

2009-10-27 Thread Lars Eighner
On Tue, 27 Oct 2009, Jonathan McKeown wrote: On Monday 26 October 2009 21:29:27 Yuri wrote: It's in /usr/sbin/sendmail. How many people actually use it? Very few. Why isn't it moved to ports? What is this anti-sendmail obsession people have? The configuration is opaque, to put it kindly.

Bad sectors: how bad can it be

2009-10-27 Thread Grünewald Michaël
Dear list, after an incorrect power-off of my FreeBSD system, it does not boot any more, BTX stops even before showing the cute beastie menu. Starting the machine by other means, I found that the hard-drive is installed on has bad sectors. I am looking for advices on how to recover from t

Re: WD External Disc Drive

2009-10-27 Thread perryh
> > > ... If you are refering to a kind of > > > hard disk, use "disk" with k. Think like "diskette". If you > > > are refering to optical media, use "disc" with c. Think like > > > "CD = compact disc". > > > > An arbitrary convention adopted by you and a few other people > > does not invalidate th

Re: howto use https in favour of http

2009-10-27 Thread Scott Bennett
On Mon, 26 Oct 2009 23:40:48 -0400 Michael Powell wrote: >Steve Bertrand wrote: > >> Alexander Best wrote: >>> Olivier Nicole schrieb am 2009-10-27: Hi, >>> > i've added the following line to my /etc/hosts: >>> > permail.uni-muenster.de:25 permail.uni-muenster.de:443 >>>

Re: gcc -pg and ld error, "cannot find -lgcc_p"

2009-10-27 Thread Vaibhav Gavane
Use sysinstall to add the proflibs distribution. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"

Re: Bad sectors: how bad can it be

2009-10-27 Thread Matthew Seaman
Grünewald Michaël wrote: Dear list, after an incorrect power-off of my FreeBSD system, it does not boot any more, BTX stops even before showing the cute beastie menu. Starting the machine by other means, I found that the hard-drive is installed on has bad sectors. I am looking for advices on

Re: Disk vs Disc (was: WD External Disc Drive)

2009-10-27 Thread Chris Rees
2009/10/26 Matthew Seaman : > Chris Rees wrote: > >> I have always considered hard disk, floppy diskette, and compact disc >> (and digital versatile disc) to be the terminology; but then again the >> official British spelling is disc, whereas AFAICR the US spelling is >> disk. > > The official Brit

Re: flashplugin

2009-10-27 Thread Jerry
On Mon, 26 Oct 2009 20:06:30 -0400 PJ PJ replied: >Thank you very much Herbert, > >I appreciate your input. >As I wrote in my original query, I had auccessfully installed the >lilnux-flashplugin9 on FreeBSD 7.2 both on a 64 bit portable _ Acer >Travelmate 4400 - and on a couple of disks on the sa

Re: Why is sendmail is part of the system and not a package?

2009-10-27 Thread Chris Rees
2009/10/27 Lars Eighner : > On Tue, 27 Oct 2009, Jonathan McKeown wrote: > >> On Monday 26 October 2009 21:29:27 Yuri wrote: >>> >>> It's in /usr/sbin/sendmail. >>> >>> How many people actually use it? Very few. >>> Why isn't it moved to ports? >> >> What is this anti-sendmail obsession people have

Re: Bad sectors: how bad can it be

2009-10-27 Thread Jerry
On Tue, 27 Oct 2009 08:16:07 + Matthew Seaman replied: >Gr_newald Micha_l wrote: >> Dear list, >> >> after an incorrect power-off of my FreeBSD system, it does not boot >> any more, BTX stops even before showing the cute beastie menu. >> Starting the machine by other means, I found that the

Re: Why is sendmail is part of the system and not a package?

2009-10-27 Thread b. f.
>It's in /usr/sbin/sendmail. > >How many people actually use it? Very few. >Why isn't it moved to ports? Obviously, not everyone wants or needs sendmail in the base system. But quite a few people do use it, and many FreeBSD developers are happy with the status quo, so it is unlikely that sendmail

Re: lang/gcc43 and lang/gcc44 installation procedures broken after updates

2009-10-27 Thread b. f.
Scott Bennet wrote: There haven't been much changes in the infrastructure of these two ports recently, so any problems are probably arising from changes in the distfiles, or problems in your base system or the ports that are used to build and install lang/gcc4X. > >===>>> Starting check for runti

Re: gcc -pg and ld error, "cannot find -lgcc_p"

2009-10-27 Thread Robert Huff
Vaibhav Gavane writes: > Use sysinstall to add the proflibs distribution. Or one could rebuild/install world (and kernel if necessary) after investigating the "NO_PROFILE" option in /etc/make.conf. Robert Huff __

Re: howto use https in favour of http

2009-10-27 Thread Michael Powell
Scott Bennett wrote: >>> Alexander Best wrote: > Hi, >> i've added the following line to my /etc/hosts: >> permail.uni-muenster.de:25 permail.uni-muenster.de:443 >> so what i want is for freebsd to never use http, but https for that >> address. [snip]

Re: WD External Disc Drive

2009-10-27 Thread Jerry McAllister
On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 12:55:51AM -0700, per...@pluto.rain.com wrote: > > > > ... If you are refering to a kind of > > > > hard disk, use "disk" with k. Think like "diskette". If you > > > > are refering to optical media, use "disc" with c. Think like > > > > "CD = compact disc". > > > > > > An a

PPPoE client+pf+nat

2009-10-27 Thread Dánielisz László
Hello, I am looking to configure my FreeBSD 8.0 machine for the purpose specified in the subject. Let's say I have two NICs in my PC: ext_if (for wan/pppoe connection) and int_if for my LAN. How would you manage to get work NAT with pf using PPPoE from my ISP; I'd like to use DHCP on my LAN. T

Re: Looking for troubleshooting tips.

2009-10-27 Thread Paul Halliday
I shift deleted my inbox and lost all of the original replies :( anyway... I have another sensor that just started to exhibit this same behavior. This time though, I have some more info: swap_pager_getswapspace(4): failed swap_pager_getswapspace(16): failed swap_pager_getswapspace(16): failed swa

Re: WD External Disc Drive

2009-10-27 Thread Polytropon
On Tue, 27 Oct 2009 15:27:23 +1030, Malcolm Kay wrote: > An arbitrary convention adopted by you and a few other people > does not invalidate the dictionary spellings and usage. As I mentioned before, the (hard) disk vs. (optical) disc differentiation seems to be quite german-specific, allthough

Re: WD External Disc Drive

2009-10-27 Thread Polytropon
On Tue, 27 Oct 2009 16:21:37 +1030, Malcolm Kay wrote: > Further, > > If we look at some acronyms associated with optical media we > have: > CD -> Compact Disc > DVD -> Digital Video Disc > but: > UDF -> Universal Disk Format (The file system frequently used on > CDs and DVDs) > So there is no

binary upgrade 6.1 - 7.2/8.0

2009-10-27 Thread Robin Becker
Is it feasible to upgrade a system from 6.1 to 7.2 or 8.0-RC1 and if yes what sequence of upgrades should I actually carry out ie is it feasible to do 6.1-6.2 and then 6.2 - 7.2 or should it be done in small steps? -- Robin Becker ___ freebsd-questions

Re: Bad sectors: how bad can it be

2009-10-27 Thread Jerry McAllister
On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 08:31:18AM +0100, Grünewald Michaël wrote: > Dear list, > > after an incorrect power-off of my FreeBSD system, it does not boot > any more, BTX stops even before showing the cute beastie menu. > Starting the machine by other means, I found that the hard-drive is > in

Re: Bad sectors: how bad can it be

2009-10-27 Thread Polytropon
On Tue, 27 Oct 2009 08:31:18 +0100, Grünewald Michaël wrote: > Starting the machine by other means, I found that the hard-drive is > installed on has bad sectors. I am looking for advices on how to > recover from this, if possible. If there's data on the disk you want to get back, first make

Re: Looking for troubleshooting tips.

2009-10-27 Thread Adam Vande More
On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 8:54 AM, Paul Halliday wrote: > I shift deleted my inbox and lost all of the original replies :( > > anyway... I have another sensor that just started to exhibit this same > behavior. This time though, I have some more info: > > swap_pager_getswapspace(4): failed > swap_pag

Re: howto use https in favour of http

2009-10-27 Thread RW
On Tue, 27 Oct 2009 03:29:13 +0100 (CET) Alexander Best wrote: > i'm not using a webserver or anything. i'm just a regular user. the > point is: i often forget to specify https://... for that specific > address in apps like lynx or firefox. that's why the non-ssl version > of that site is being

Re: PPPoE client+pf+nat

2009-10-27 Thread Polytropon
On Tue, 27 Oct 2009 06:51:26 -0700 (PDT), Dánielisz László wrote: > Hello, > > I am looking to configure my FreeBSD 8.0 machine for the purpose specified in > the subject. > Let's say I have two NICs in my PC: ext_if (for wan/pppoe connection) and > int_if for my LAN. > How would you manage to

Re: PPPoE client+pf+nat

2009-10-27 Thread Andreas Rudisch
On Tue, 27 Oct 2009 06:51:26 -0700 (PDT) Dánielisz László wrote: > Let's say I have two NICs in my PC: ext_if (for wan/pppoe connection) and > int_if for my LAN. > How would you manage to get work NAT with pf using PPPoE from my ISP As a start your pf.conf could look a bit like this: # ext_

Re: auto format and partion p.s.

2009-10-27 Thread Robert
On Tue, 27 Oct 2009 05:29:16 +1000 da...@hushmail.com wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > > ps. > > is there a step by step document somwhere??? > On Tue, 27 Oct 2009 02:50:16 +1000 Robert > wrote: > >On Fri, 23 Oct 2009 09:23:35 +1000 > >da...@hushmail.com wrote: > >

Re: PPPoE client+pf+nat

2009-10-27 Thread RW
On Tue, 27 Oct 2009 06:51:26 -0700 (PDT) Dánielisz László wrote: > Hello, > > I am looking to configure my FreeBSD 8.0 machine for the purpose > specified in the subject. Let's say I have two NICs in my PC: ext_if > (for wan/pppoe connection) and int_if for my LAN. How would you > manage to get

Using bash with MySQL

2009-10-27 Thread carmel_ny
I am in the process of writting a script that will use MySQL as a back end. For the most part, I have gotten things to work correctly. I am having one problem though. Assume a data base: database: MyDataBase table: MyTable field: defaults Now, I have populated the 'defaults' fields with the decl

Re: flashplugin

2009-10-27 Thread Paul Schmehl
--On Tuesday, October 27, 2009 04:13:52 -0500 Jerry wrote: That is precisely why I keep an XP box nearby. There is no way in hell that I would want to personally, or expect a colleague for that matter, to waste valuable time getting a simple plug-in to work; especially since I can do it in a ma

Re: Using bash with MySQL

2009-10-27 Thread Matthew Seaman
carmel_ny wrote: I am in the process of writting a script that will use MySQL as a back end. For the most part, I have gotten things to work correctly. I am having one problem though. Assume a data base: database: MyDataBase table: MyTable field: defaults Now, I have populated the 'defaults' f

Re: Why is sendmail is part of the system and not a package?

2009-10-27 Thread Gonzalo Nemmi
On Tuesday 27 October 2009 7:32:14 am b. f. wrote: > >It's in /usr/sbin/sendmail. > > > >How many people actually use it? Very few. > >Why isn't it moved to ports? > > Obviously, not everyone wants or needs sendmail in the base system. > But quite a few people do use it, and many FreeBSD developers

Re: Why is sendmail is part of the system and not a package?

2009-10-27 Thread Gonzalo Nemmi
On Monday 26 October 2009 11:06:47 pm Olivier Nicole wrote: > > How many people actually use it? Very few. > > Out of the 12 or 15 servers I run, only one do not use stock > sendmail: the mail server. So one out of twelve is rather quite a > lot... Let me get this .. are you saying that out of 12

Re: Why is sendmail is part of the system and not a package?

2009-10-27 Thread Gonzalo Nemmi
On Tuesday 27 October 2009 5:16:30 am Jonathan McKeown wrote: > On Monday 26 October 2009 21:29:27 Yuri wrote: > > It's in /usr/sbin/sendmail. > > > > How many people actually use it? Very few. > > Why isn't it moved to ports? > > What is this anti-sendmail obsession people have? Hard to tell .. a

Re: Why is sendmail is part of the system and not a package?

2009-10-27 Thread Giorgos Keramidas
On Tue, 27 Oct 2009 15:43:39 -0200, Gonzalo Nemmi wrote: >On Tuesday 27 October 2009 7:32:14 am b. f. wrote: >>>It's in /usr/sbin/sendmail. >>> >>>How many people actually use it? Very few. Why isn't it moved to >>>ports? >> >> Obviously, not everyone wants or needs sendmail in the base system. >

PAM and xdm woes

2009-10-27 Thread Rolf G Nielsen
Hi, Every time I start xdm I get the following message on ttyv0, xdm: pam_sm_close_session(): no utmp record for :0 Everything seems to work just fine. I can log in, and everything runs as expected, so it's basically just an annoyance, especially since I don't know whether I should be concern

Re: Why is sendmail is part of the system and not a package?

2009-10-27 Thread Erik Norgaard
Jonathan McKeown wrote: Just as a matter of interest, if you want to rip sendmail out of the base system, which MTA would you like to replace it with? Or are you suggesting the system ship with no way to handle mail? This thread moving of topic from OP, but it is always fair to debate what s

Re: changing cron's From: address in emails

2009-10-27 Thread Kelly Martin
On Sun, Oct 25, 2009 at 11:19 AM, krad wrote: > > >> On Sat, 24 Oct 2009 01:08:21 -0600 >> Kelly Martin wrote: >> >> > Greetings, here's a simple question for the FreeBSD gurus out there. I >> > have several servers running cron scripts daily for me, and they all >> > send me e-mail with their ou

Re: Why is sendmail is part of the system and not a package?

2009-10-27 Thread Gonzalo Nemmi
On Tuesday 27 October 2009 4:00:07 pm Giorgos Keramidas wrote: > On Tue, 27 Oct 2009 15:43:39 -0200, Gonzalo Nemmi wrote: > >On Tuesday 27 October 2009 7:32:14 am b. f. wrote: > >>>It's in /usr/sbin/sendmail. > >>> > >>>How many people actually use it? Very few. Why isn't it moved to > >>>ports?

Re: Why is sendmail is part of the system and not a package?

2009-10-27 Thread Kurt Buff
On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 12:32, Bill Moran wrote: > In response to Yuri : > Besides, if it's not there, how are you going to send mail from things > like cron? Postfix. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listi

Re: Why is sendmail is part of the system and not a package?

2009-10-27 Thread Kurt Buff
On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 00:16, Jonathan McKeown wrote: > On Monday 26 October 2009 21:29:27 Yuri wrote: >> It's in /usr/sbin/sendmail. >> >> How many people actually use it? Very few. >> Why isn't it moved to ports? > > What is this anti-sendmail obsession people have? > > Almost everyone I've eve

Re: Why is sendmail is part of the system and not a package?

2009-10-27 Thread Lowell Gilbert
Green! No, no, Blue! AA -- Lowell Gilbert, embedded/networking software engineer, Boston area http://be-well.ilk.org/~lowell/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd

Re: Why is sendmail is part of the system and not a package?

2009-10-27 Thread Gonzalo Nemmi
On Tuesday 27 October 2009 4:32:45 pm Erik Norgaard wrote: > Jonathan McKeown wrote: > > Just as a matter of interest, if you want to rip sendmail out of > > the base system, which MTA would you like to replace it with? Or > > are you suggesting the system ship with no way to handle mail? > > This

Re: Why is sendmail is part of the system and not a package?

2009-10-27 Thread Gonzalo Nemmi
On Tuesday 27 October 2009 7:16:14 am Chris Rees wrote: > 2009/10/27 Lars Eighner : > > On Tue, 27 Oct 2009, Jonathan McKeown wrote: > >> On Monday 26 October 2009 21:29:27 Yuri wrote: > >>> It's in /usr/sbin/sendmail. > >>> > >>> How many people actually use it? Very few. > >>> Why isn't it moved

Re: Why is sendmail is part of the system and not a package?

2009-10-27 Thread Giorgos Keramidas
On Tue, 27 Oct 2009 16:47:12 -0200, Gonzalo Nemmi wrote: > On Tuesday 27 October 2009 4:00:07 pm Giorgos Keramidas wrote: >> - Import your MTA of choice in a local branch. >> - Integrate the $NEWMTA with the base system of FreeBSD. >> - Update the manpages and documentation for $NEWMTA. >>

bind configuration issues

2009-10-27 Thread Ray
Hello, I am adding a redundant Internet connection to my current hosting setup and I need to figure out how to set up the DNS to make this work. Current setup: freebsd 7.0 machine, one local IP address, runs web, mail, and name server. static ip address in router. I have two DNS servers registere

bind configuration issues

2009-10-27 Thread Ray
Hello, I am adding a redundant Internet connection to my current hosting setup and I need to figure out how to set up the DNS to make this work. Current setup: freebsd 7.0 machine, one local IP address, runs web, mail, and name server. static ip address in router. I have two DNS servers registere

Re: Why is sendmail is part of the system and not a package?

2009-10-27 Thread Lars Eighner
On Tue, 27 Oct 2009, Chris Rees wrote: 2009/10/27 Lars Eighner : On Tue, 27 Oct 2009, Jonathan McKeown wrote: On Monday 26 October 2009 21:29:27 Yuri wrote: It's in /usr/sbin/sendmail. How many people actually use it? Very few. Why isn't it moved to ports? What is this anti-sendmail obse

Re: Using bash with MySQL

2009-10-27 Thread carmel_ny
On Tue, 27 Oct 2009 16:17:55 + Matthew Seaman replied: >carmel_ny wrote: >> I am in the process of writting a script that will use MySQL as a >> back end. For the most part, I have gotten things to work correctly. >> I am having one problem though. >> >> Assume a data base: >> >> database:

Re: Why is sendmail is part of the system and not a package?

2009-10-27 Thread Gonzalo Nemmi
On Tuesday 27 October 2009 5:24:58 pm Giorgos Keramidas wrote: > On Tue, 27 Oct 2009 16:47:12 -0200, Gonzalo Nemmi wrote: > > On Tuesday 27 October 2009 4:00:07 pm Giorgos Keramidas wrote: > >> - Import your MTA of choice in a local branch. > >> - Integrate the $NEWMTA with the base system of

Re: Bad sectors: how bad can it be

2009-10-27 Thread Michaël Grünewald
Many thanks to the contributors of the list for their input on this question! I always got quick and detailed answer to my questions on this list, which is very appreciable in this time of (small) trouble. (I feel sorry for the very poor english I demonstrated in the message I wrote this morni

Re: Why is sendmail is part of the system and not a package?

2009-10-27 Thread ill...@gmail.com
2009/10/27 Gonzalo Nemmi : > On Tuesday 27 October 2009 7:32:14 am b. f. wrote: >> >It's in /usr/sbin/sendmail. >> > >> >How many people actually use it? Very few. >> >Why isn't it moved to ports? >> >> Obviously, not everyone wants or needs sendmail in the base system. >> But quite a few people do

Re: Why is sendmail is part of the system and not a package?

2009-10-27 Thread Frank Shute
On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 09:24:58PM +0200, Giorgos Keramidas wrote: > [big snip] > > Until then, the status quo is here because it works, it has been stable > for a very long time, and it serves its current purpose "well enough". > I don't use sendmail but it's easy enough to build a different MT

Re: Why is sendmail is part of the system and not a package?

2009-10-27 Thread Gonzalo Nemmi
On Tuesday 27 October 2009 6:18:33 pm ill...@gmail.com wrote: > 2009/10/27 Gonzalo Nemmi : > > On Tuesday 27 October 2009 7:32:14 am b. f. wrote: > >> >It's in /usr/sbin/sendmail. > >> > > >> >How many people actually use it? Very few. > >> >Why isn't it moved to ports? > >> > >> Obviously, not eve

Re: Why is sendmail is part of the system and not a package?

2009-10-27 Thread Chris Rees
2009/10/27 Lars Eighner : > On Tue, 27 Oct 2009, Chris Rees wrote: > >> 2009/10/27 Lars Eighner : >>> >>> On Tue, 27 Oct 2009, Jonathan McKeown wrote: >>> On Monday 26 October 2009 21:29:27 Yuri wrote: > > It's in /usr/sbin/sendmail. > > How many people actually use it? Very fe

Re: Why is sendmail is part of the system and not a package?

2009-10-27 Thread Gonzalo Nemmi
On Tuesday 27 October 2009 6:20:35 pm Frank Shute wrote: > On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 09:24:58PM +0200, Giorgos Keramidas wrote: > > [big snip] > > > Until then, the status quo is here because it works, it has been > > stable for a very long time, and it serves its current purpose > > "well enough". >

Re: flashplugin

2009-10-27 Thread Sergio de Almeida Lenzi
> > That is precisely why I keep an XP box nearby. There is no way in hell > that I would want to personally, or expect a colleague for that matter, > to waste valuable time getting a simple plug-in to work; especially > since I can do it in a matter of seconds on a Microsoft product. > Strang

Re: [freebsd-questions] in subject line

2009-10-27 Thread Chris Whitehouse
Chuck Swiger wrote: Hi, Chris-- On Oct 26, 2009, at 3:43 PM, Chris Whitehouse wrote: Some mailing lists I am on automatically insert the mailing list name in square brackets into the subject line. I find this quite useful for setting up filters in thunderbird to drop different lists into diff

Re: Why is sendmail is part of the system and not a package?

2009-10-27 Thread Lowell Gilbert
I probably should move this bikeshed to freebsd-chat... Gonzalo Nemmi writes: > On Tuesday 27 October 2009 6:20:35 pm Frank Shute wrote: >> On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 09:24:58PM +0200, Giorgos Keramidas wrote: >> I can imagine that a lot of people do use sendmail - it's documented >> in the handboo

Re: Why is sendmail is part of the system and not a package?

2009-10-27 Thread Jerry McAllister
On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 05:03:12PM -0200, Gonzalo Nemmi wrote: > On Tuesday 27 October 2009 4:32:45 pm Erik Norgaard wrote: > > Jonathan McKeown wrote: > > > Just as a matter of interest, if you want to rip sendmail out of > > > the base system, which MTA would you like to replace it with? Or > >

Re: flashplugin

2009-10-27 Thread PJ
Sergio de Almeida Lenzi wrote: That is precisely why I keep an XP box nearby. There is no way in hell that I would want to personally, or expect a colleague for that matter, to waste valuable time getting a simple plug-in to work; especially since I can do it in a matter of seconds on a Micros

Re: Why is sendmail is part of the system and not a package?

2009-10-27 Thread Robert
On Tue, 27 Oct 2009 14:54:44 -0400 Lowell Gilbert wrote: > Green! No, no, Blue! AA > I think it should be disque shaped. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubs

Re: Why is sendmail is part of the system and not a package?

2009-10-27 Thread Gonzalo Nemmi
On Tuesday 27 October 2009 7:22:22 pm Lowell Gilbert wrote: > I probably should move this bikeshed to freebsd-chat... > > Gonzalo Nemmi writes: > > On Tuesday 27 October 2009 6:20:35 pm Frank Shute wrote: > >> On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 09:24:58PM +0200, Giorgos Keramidas wrote: > >> I can imagine th

Re: flashplugin

2009-10-27 Thread Sergio de Almeida Lenzi
Ok... supose you use FreeBSD 7.2 P3 (last version) but the RELEASE should work too.. supose you use AMD64 1) compile a custom kernel with SEM (semaphore enable) (sem_enable=YES) in the loader.conf 2) deinstall all linux stuff, remove the /compat/linux from the system, deinstall all pkg with

Re: Why is sendmail is part of the system and not a package?

2009-10-27 Thread Gonzalo Nemmi
On Tuesday 27 October 2009 7:31:34 pm Jerry McAllister wrote: > On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 05:03:12PM -0200, Gonzalo Nemmi wrote: > > On Tuesday 27 October 2009 4:32:45 pm Erik Norgaard wrote: > > > Jonathan McKeown wrote: > > > > Just as a matter of interest, if you want to rip sendmail out > > > > o

Re: Why is sendmail is part of the system and not a package?

2009-10-27 Thread Jerry McAllister
On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 08:45:59PM -0200, Gonzalo Nemmi wrote: > On Tuesday 27 October 2009 7:31:34 pm Jerry McAllister wrote: > > On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 05:03:12PM -0200, Gonzalo Nemmi wrote: > > > On Tuesday 27 October 2009 4:32:45 pm Erik Norgaard wrote: > > > > Jonathan McKeown wrote: > > > >

Re: gcc -pg and ld error, "cannot find -lgcc_p"

2009-10-27 Thread freebsd
> > Use sysinstall to add the proflibs distribution. > > Or one could rebuild/install world (and kernel if necessary) > after investigating the "NO_PROFILE" option in /etc/make.conf. There's only a PERL_VERSION in make.conf. Since sysinstall doesn't work (this is -p4, not a base media insta

Re: Why is sendmail is part of the system and not a package?

2009-10-27 Thread Kevin Kinsey
Gonzalo Nemmi wrote: On Tuesday 27 October 2009 7:22:22 pm Lowell Gilbert wrote: I probably should move this bikeshed to freebsd-chat... I'd like the bikeshed blue, please. Also, since Sendmail has reached maturity, let's baptize it now instead of during infancy, and add a knob FEATURE(requir

Re: Partitions per slice limitation removed?

2009-10-27 Thread Andrew Von Cid
Hi, > No, you were not dreaming. When in doubt, check the source. From > head/sbin/bsdlabel/bsdlabel.c [1]: > > "Allow bsdlabel to operate on labels that have at most 26 partitions by virtue > of there not being any (lower-case) letters avaliable for more partitions." > > [1] http://svn.freebsd.org

What causes random disk access slow down

2009-10-27 Thread Jin Guojun
A 6-7 years old Xeon dual 2.4MHz CPU machine runs FreeBSD 6.4-Release suddenly becomes slow on some tasks requiring disk access. Typical things like ls, objdump etc. Be more specific, a couple of minutes objdump became a several hours job. A several seconds "ls -RC" became a 15-minute task (see

Re: What causes random disk access slow down

2009-10-27 Thread phantomcircuit
How full are the disks? Jin Guojun wrote: A 6-7 years old Xeon dual 2.4MHz CPU machine runs FreeBSD 6.4-Release suddenly becomes slow on some tasks requiring disk access. Typical things like ls, objdump etc. Be more specific, a couple of minutes objdump became a several hours job. A several s

Re: Why is sendmail is part of the system and not a package?

2009-10-27 Thread Robert
On Tue, 27 Oct 2009 19:00:25 -0400 Jerry McAllister wrote: > > > > Fit the bill ... well.. so did the Geocentric model .. and it > > actually did work just as fine .. and even better yet since it also > > mantained the "status quo" ! ... but then Galileo came and you know > > the rest of the s

Re: Why is sendmail is part of the system and not a package?

2009-10-27 Thread Lars Eighner
On Tue, 27 Oct 2009, Chris Rees wrote: 2009/10/27 Lars Eighner : On Tue, 27 Oct 2009, Chris Rees wrote: 2009/10/27 Lars Eighner : On Tue, 27 Oct 2009, Jonathan McKeown wrote: On Monday 26 October 2009 21:29:27 Yuri wrote: It's in /usr/sbin/sendmail. How many people actually use it? Ver

Re: Why is sendmail is part of the system and not a package?

2009-10-27 Thread pete wright
On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 5:16 PM, Lars Eighner wrote: >> You guessed wrong. >> >> We use m4, which cuts out most of the crap that you had to write into >> sendmail.cf. You write sendmail.mc and compile it. Sendmail.mc on my >> system is less than 50 lines long, including comments. >> >> http://www

Re: Why is sendmail is part of the system and not a package?

2009-10-27 Thread Lars Eighner
On Tue, 27 Oct 2009, pete wright wrote: On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 5:16 PM, Lars Eighner wrote: You guessed wrong. We use m4, which cuts out most of the crap that you had to write into sendmail.cf. You write sendmail.mc and compile it. Sendmail.mc on my system is less than 50 lines long, includ

Re: Why is sendmail is part of the system and not a package?

2009-10-27 Thread pete wright
On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 6:24 PM, Lars Eighner wrote: > On Tue, 27 Oct 2009, pete wright wrote: > >> On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 5:16 PM, Lars Eighner >> wrote: >> You guessed wrong. We use m4, which cuts out most of the crap that you had to write into sendmail.cf. You write sendma

what is special about the 'git' Makefile ?

2009-10-27 Thread George Sanders
I've been doing this dance: ../configure ; make ; make install for about ten years now. Sometimes there are some little issues, but nothing too crazy. I tried to build 'git' from source today, however, and it doesn't behave like anything I've ever seen... I do the ./configure and it comple

Re: Why is sendmail is part of the system and not a package?

2009-10-27 Thread Giorgos Keramidas
On Tue, 27 Oct 2009 20:24:38 -0500 (CDT), Lars Eighner wrote: > Evidently by making it necessary to learn yet another scripting > language to configure it. Other than personal profit I cannot see why > people are clinging like grim death to something this fubar. Really, > let's go past this one

Re: what is special about the 'git' Makefile ?

2009-10-27 Thread Giorgos Keramidas
On Tue, 27 Oct 2009 18:33:03 -0700 (PDT), George Sanders wrote: > I've been doing this dance: > > ../configure ; make ; make install > > for about ten years now. Sometimes there are some little issues, but nothing > too crazy. > > I tried to build 'git' from source today, however, and it doesn'

Re: what is special about the 'git' Makefile ?

2009-10-27 Thread Adam Vande More
On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 8:33 PM, George Sanders wrote: > > > I've been doing this dance: > > ../configure ; make ; make install > > for about ten years now. Sometimes there are some little issues, but > nothing too crazy. > > I tried to build 'git' from source today, however, and it doesn't behav

Re: what is special about the 'git' Makefile ?

2009-10-27 Thread b. f.
George Sanders wrote: >I've been doing this dance: You haven't been out on the floor nearly often enough, it seems. Better dust off those blue suede shoes. :) >../configure ; make ; make install >for about ten years now. Sometimes there are some little issues, but nothing >too crazy. >I tried

win 7 dual boot

2009-10-27 Thread Aryeh M. Friedman
I am about to go out and buy windows 7 to replace my vista partition... when I installed vista I had to do some boot manager tricks (both before and after install)... namely I had to allow windows to nuke my mbr then use EasyBCD to remake it in such a way that vista would still find it's "mag

Re: Why is sendmail is part of the system and not a package?

2009-10-27 Thread Frank Shute
On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 08:45:59PM -0200, Gonzalo Nemmi wrote: > > On Tuesday 27 October 2009 7:31:34 pm Jerry McAllister wrote: > [snippage] > > > So, that leaves personal preference as the only real reason > > for wanting to replace it. > > Let me get this straight .. that means that every Lin

Re: win 7 dual boot

2009-10-27 Thread Aryeh M. Friedman
Jack L. wrote: I was able to dual boot win7 and freebsd 8 without any problem, just installed windows first and installed freebsd with the freebsd boot manager and it said F1 windows and the rest are FreeBSD I am attempting to avoid having to reinstall the fb side of things ;-) On Tue, Oct

Re: win 7 dual boot

2009-10-27 Thread Jack L.
On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 7:16 PM, Aryeh M. Friedman wrote: > Jack L. wrote: >> >> I was able to dual boot win7 and freebsd 8 without any problem, just >> installed windows first and installed freebsd with the freebsd boot >> manager and it said F1 windows and the rest are FreeBSD >> > > I am attemp

Re: Why is sendmail is part of the system and not a package?

2009-10-27 Thread pete wright
On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 7:14 PM, Frank Shute wrote: > On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 08:45:59PM -0200, Gonzalo Nemmi wrote: >> >> On Tuesday 27 October 2009 7:31:34 pm Jerry McAllister wrote: >> > [snippage] >> >> > So, that leaves personal preference as the only real reason >> > for wanting to replace i

Re: win 7 dual boot

2009-10-27 Thread Jack L.
I was able to dual boot win7 and freebsd 8 without any problem, just installed windows first and installed freebsd with the freebsd boot manager and it said F1 windows and the rest are FreeBSD On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 7:11 PM, Aryeh M. Friedman wrote: > I am about to go out and buy windows 7 to re

Re: flashplugin

2009-10-27 Thread PJ
Sergio de Almeida Lenzi wrote: > Ok... supose you use FreeBSD 7.2 P3 (last version) but the RELEASE > should work too.. > > supose you use AMD64 > > 1) compile a custom kernel with SEM (semaphore enable) > (sem_enable=YES) in the loader.conf > 2) deinstall all linux stuff, remove the /compat/

How to display back trace automatically after seg fault?

2009-10-27 Thread Pierre-Luc Drouin
Hi, How can I make FreeBSD to display automatically the backtrace of an executable after a segmentation fault (the same way Linux does it)? I prefer this option by default rather than a core dump. Thanks! ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing li

Re: Why is sendmail is part of the system and not a package?

2009-10-27 Thread Lars Eighner
On Wed, 28 Oct 2009, Giorgos Keramidas wrote: On Tue, 27 Oct 2009 20:24:38 -0500 (CDT), Lars Eighner wrote: Evidently by making it necessary to learn yet another scripting language to configure it. Other than personal profit I cannot see why people are clinging like grim death to something t

Re: Why is sendmail is part of the system and not a package?

2009-10-27 Thread b. f.
Lars Eighner wrote: >Evidently my package database is corrupt in some way, because it shows m4 as >an installed port. I wonder how that happened, how to fix it, and if it >will bite if I leave it alone. The GNU version of m4 is a FreeBSD Port, devel/m4. The base system m4(1) was originally based