On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 6:24 PM, Lars Eighner <luvbeas...@larseighner.com> wrote: > On Tue, 27 Oct 2009, pete wright wrote: > >> On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 5:16 PM, Lars Eighner >> <luvbeas...@larseighner.com> wrote: >> >>>> You guessed wrong. >>>> >>>> We use m4, which cuts out most of the crap that you had to write into >>>> sendmail.cf. You write sendmail.mc and compile it. Sendmail.mc on my >>>> system is less than 50 lines long, including comments. >>>> >>>> http://www.sendmail.org/m4/intro.html >>> >>> That's as poorly documented and incomprehensible as .cf by hand. What is >>> your interest in sendmail? Are you connected with it in someway? >>> Surely, >>> yours could not be the opinion of someone who doesn't get a piece of >>> O'Reilly's royalties. It's the same old crap, give the software away, >>> sell >>> the documentation. > >> well shit man - Eric's actually a super nice guy and has made some >> major contributions to computing so I reckon he deserves *some* >> respect for the work he's done on sendmail. > > Evidently by making it necessary to learn yet another scripting language > to configure it. Other than personal profit I cannot see why people are > clinging like grim death to something this fubar. Really, let's go past > this one more time: >
ok i'm just gonna suggest you read up on the history of sendmail to gain some perspective on why/when it was written. i'm not saying that there are no issues with it - but i think some historical perspective would do you a world of good. regarding having to learn a new language i'm not sure about that as i wouldn't say i "know" m4 - but I can rtfm, and the default .mc files are actually well documented. so yea... > "Sure, sendmail.cf is hard to work with so the solution is you learn m4!" > > Did you look at the link he offered? How helpful is that? > > Beside which, m4 is a PORT. So if sendmail is not configurable without a > port, why isn't it a port? sure it's a port, sendmail is a port too. but that does not mean you need to install the port to compile custom .mc files for your server. in fact if you check out /etc/mail/Makefile you might notice that m4 is actually part of the base system: /usr/bin/m4 anywho i should stop feeding the troll. -p -- pete wright www.nycbug.org _______________________________________________ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
