Re: to scsi or not to scsi

2008-06-27 Thread scuba
Hi, How can I know if my Fbsd box supports NCQ and if it's beeing used? - Marcelo On Thu, 26 Jun 2008, Jos Chrispijn wrote: |prad wrote: |> i've heard scsi hard drives are really good. |> i've also seen at least one site which claims that ide easily |> outperform scsi. |> |> for the

Re: to scsi or not to scsi

2008-06-27 Thread herbs
I have a SCSI controller, two cd-rom drives and the external tape streamer on my workstation. No SCSI harddisk anymore. A 18 or 36GB harddisk is likely to be the SCSI-2 standard, this is the controller I have. In the past it was quite a speedy interface, but I guess even the older ATAs outperform

Re: to scsi or not to scsi

2008-06-27 Thread Michael Powell
Wojciech Puchar wrote: >> The concept that SATA subsystems will tend to consume more CPU cycles >> because SCSI controllers > > untrue. SATA disk consumes really small amount of CPU under FreeBSD. even > if it's less than on SCSI controller it is still very little. > Uh, maybe read the _ent

Re: to scsi or not to scsi

2008-06-27 Thread Wojciech Puchar
The concept that SATA subsystems will tend to consume more CPU cycles because SCSI controllers untrue. SATA disk consumes really small amount of CPU under FreeBSD. even if it's less than on SCSI controller it is still very little. ___ freebsd-quest

Re: to scsi or not to scsi

2008-06-27 Thread Michael Powell
Jos Chrispijn wrote: >> prad wrote: >> i've heard scsi hard drives are really good. >> i've also seen at least one site which claims that ide easily >> outperform scsi. >> [snip] > Prad, > > Have a look at this URL: http://www.pugetsystems.com/articles.php?id=19 > While I found this interest

Re: to scsi or not to scsi

2008-06-26 Thread Derek Ragona
At 03:59 PM 6/26/2008, prad wrote: On Thu, 26 Jun 2008 20:53:00 +0200 Jos Chrispijn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Have a look at this URL: > http://www.pugetsystems.com/articles.php?id=19 > this was very interesting and thorough. and thanks to everyone else who responded especially david and bill

Re: to scsi or not to scsi

2008-06-26 Thread Erik Trulsson
On Thu, Jun 26, 2008 at 11:59:15PM +0200, Wojciech Puchar wrote: > > > > we have a chance to buy 18G scsi at $5 or 36G for $25. > > with THAT price - SCSI make sense :) > > > > > what the seller isn't sure about is whether they will be compatible > > with the particular server. > > SCSI is SCSI.

Re: to scsi or not to scsi

2008-06-26 Thread prad
On Thu, 26 Jun 2008 23:59:15 +0200 (CEST) Wojciech Puchar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > SCSI is SCSI. unless the device doesn't comply to standards > (unlikely) it just works! > thanks wojciech! i also came across the following in this article from 1999: "Seagate is committed to Ultra3 SCSI and pl

Re: to scsi or not to scsi

2008-06-26 Thread Wojciech Puchar
we have a chance to buy 18G scsi at $5 or 36G for $25. with THAT price - SCSI make sense :) what the seller isn't sure about is whether they will be compatible with the particular server. SCSI is SCSI. unless the device doesn't comply to standards (unlikely) it just works!

Re: to scsi or not to scsi

2008-06-26 Thread prad
On Thu, 26 Jun 2008 20:53:00 +0200 Jos Chrispijn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Have a look at this URL: > http://www.pugetsystems.com/articles.php?id=19 > this was very interesting and thorough. and thanks to everyone else who responded especially david and bill. unfortunately, david, most of the l

Re: to scsi or not to scsi

2008-06-26 Thread Jos Chrispijn
prad wrote: i've heard scsi hard drives are really good. i've also seen at least one site which claims that ide easily outperform scsi. for the server we got (dual P3 1GHz 2M which will use raid), is one preferable over the other? and what about sata? Prad, Have a look at this URL: http://

Re: to scsi or not to scsi

2008-06-26 Thread Bill Moran
In response to prad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > i've heard scsi hard drives are really good. > i've also seen at least one site which claims that ide easily > outperform scsi. > > for the server we got (dual P3 1GHz 2M which will use raid), is one > preferable over the other? and what about sata? Th

Re: to scsi or not to scsi

2008-06-26 Thread Derek Ragona
At 11:25 AM 6/26/2008, prad wrote: i've heard scsi hard drives are really good. i've also seen at least one site which claims that ide easily outperform scsi. for the server we got (dual P3 1GHz 2M which will use raid), is one preferable over the other? and what about sata? -- In friendship, p

Re: to scsi or not to scsi

2008-06-26 Thread Wojciech Puchar
i've heard scsi hard drives are really good. SATA are too. i've also seen at least one site which claims that ide easily outperform scsi. the performance are similar by interfaces, SCSI drives tend to have higher RPM and faster heads and can be 30-50% faster for 5 times higher price. does

Re: to scsi or not to scsi

2008-06-26 Thread David Robillard
> i've heard scsi hard drives are really good. > i've also seen at least one site which claims that ide easily > outperform scsi. I seriously doubt that. Maybe if you take a single old first generation SCSI disk and compare it to a modern IDE drive. But that's not exactly comparing apples to apple

to scsi or not to scsi

2008-06-26 Thread prad
i've heard scsi hard drives are really good. i've also seen at least one site which claims that ide easily outperform scsi. for the server we got (dual P3 1GHz 2M which will use raid), is one preferable over the other? and what about sata? -- In friendship, prad