Polytropon writes:
> > I am now thinking which one is better.
>
> I have used portupgrade / portinstall in the past, but I think
> portmaster really is the way to go, at least for me,
As far as I can tell, for 90-95% of tasks they're
indistinguishable. If (generic) you have special
On Sun, 7 Mar 2010 14:29:57 +0700
Pongthep Kulkrisada articulated:
> > Programs like portmaster can be really helpful here.
> Yes, it is what I am expecting. Thank you.
> I read the handbook. There are 2 choices i.e. portmanager and
> portmaster. I am now thinking which one is better.
> I must
On Sat, Mar 6, 2010 at 1:07 PM, C. P. Ghost wrote:
> On Sat, Mar 6, 2010 at 9:25 AM, Polytropon wrote:
>> On Sat, 6 Mar 2010 09:03:58 +0100, Sabine Baer wrote:
>>> Well, it is, indeed. Me I am very glad beeing able to do eg
>>> linux-opera -display :0 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bhmf4l4OxNw
>
On Sun, 7 Mar 2010 14:29:57 +0700, Pongthep Kulkrisada
wrote:
> I checked /var/db/pkg; I have 464 ports installed on my system (including X).
> I would probably not do so.
The pkg_add utility is especially useful when building a new
installation from scratch, because it additionally automaticall
Hi Polytropon,
Firstly, thanks for your suggestion.
* Polytropon (free...@edvax.de) wrote:
> You can consider using "pkgadd -r" to install binary packages.
> Those are quite synchon with the ports tree (as they are
> centrally built from the ports tree).
I checked /var/db/pkg; I have 464 ports in
On Sun, 7 Mar 2010 07:29:48 +0100, Sabine Baer wrote:
> OK, I really didn't know youtube_dl (and clive someone mentioned in
> the thread). So, thanks a lot. I youtube-dl-ed my puff pastry examle.
> It took me 5 minutes and 11.69M space on diks but then I was able to
> look at it using mplayer. Fi
On Sat, Mar 06, 2010 at 09:25:41AM +0100, Polytropon wrote:
> On Sat, 6 Mar 2010 09:03:58 +0100, Sabine Baer wrote:
> > Well, it is, indeed. Me I am very glad beeing able to do eg
> > linux-opera -display :0 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bhmf4l4OxNw
> > since I live in a Windows free zone at home
On Sun, 7 Mar 2010 11:30:04 +0700, Pongthep Kulkrisada
wrote:
> But it takes very long time to rebuild all ports.
> Main problem is KDE, big big ports.
> Okay, I shall do it, when I have time.
You can consider using "pkgadd -r" to install binary packages.
Those are quite synchon with the ports t
* Chuck Swiger (cswi...@mac.com) wrote:
> Yes, it's not enough.
>
> When you upgrade the base OS to a new major version (ie, going from
> 7.x to 8.x), the system libraries get bumped to a new version, but any
> libraries coming from ports are still linked against the older version
> of the f
On Sat, Mar 6, 2010 at 1:07 PM, C. P. Ghost wrote:
> And remember, youtube-dl is a hack. It can break anytime
> YT changes its embedding. I wished YouTube would switch
> to HTML5, or at least added this as an option.
Actually this option exists
http://www.youtube.com/html5
The problem is Opera a
On 3/6/10, C. P. Ghost wrote:
> On Sat, Mar 6, 2010 at 9:25 AM, Polytropon wrote:
>> On Sat, 6 Mar 2010 09:03:58 +0100, Sabine Baer wrote:
>>> Well, it is, indeed. Me I am very glad beeing able to do eg
>>> linux-opera -display :0 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bhmf4l4OxNw
>>> since I live in a
On Sat, Mar 6, 2010 at 2:54 PM, Robert Huff wrote:
>> > And remember, youtube-dl is a hack. It can break anytime
>> > YT changes its embedding.
>>
>> That's what "make update" is used for. :-)
>
> More importantly, it's about the author (and maintainer, if
> they're different) fixing thi
Chuck Swiger writes:
> For all practical purposes, if you upgrade to a new major
> version, then you must rebuild all installed ports.
And if you have the time and knowledge to not have to do this
... you're probably not involved in the discussion to begin with.
:-)
On Mar 6, 2010, at 1:57 AM, Pongthep Kulkrisada wrote:
So your system is approx. 4 months old, despite you cvsup-ping?
I don't know what do you mean.
Normally, FBSD issues new STABLE RELEASE once a year (approx).
Whenever new release or new branch is available,
I shall do either wget iso images
Polytropon writes:
> > And remember, youtube-dl is a hack. It can break anytime
> > YT changes its embedding.
>
> That's what "make update" is used for. :-)
More importantly, it's about the author (and maintainer, if
they're different) fixing things promptly after a change, My
expe
On Mar 5, 2010, at 11:35 PM, Pongthep Kulkrisada wrote:
* Warren Block (wbl...@wonkity.com) wrote:
When you upgrade from 7.x to 8.x, it's necessary to rebuild *all*
ports.
Thanks for your suggestion, but it does not seem likely.
All operating systems can always distinguish the system and pac
On Fri, Mar 05, 2010 at 12:14:15PM +0700, Pongthep Kulkrisada wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I have been using FBSD since 5.4 until now 8.0.
> Mostly, I use it as a server and coding C (as my hobby).
> All the time I stay in console without fancy of any GUI.
> For GUI applications, I mostly use Windows.
>
On Sat, 6 Mar 2010 12:15:37 +0100, "C. P. Ghost" wrote:
> On Sat, Mar 6, 2010 at 10:01 AM, Polytropon wrote:
> > If they don't want to make one, there's no way to convince
> > them. Since the majority of free and standardized operating
> > systems isn't oriented at market share, there is no reaso
On Sat, 6 Mar 2010 12:07:25 +0100, "C. P. Ghost" wrote:
> That's true. I love youtube-dl too, as it helps me keep a local
> .flv copy, even for videos that have been removed for one reason
> or another.
A very useful feature, especially for offline operations.
> However, there are other video
On Sat, Mar 6, 2010 at 10:01 AM, Polytropon wrote:
> If they don't want to make one, there's no way to convince
> them. Since the majority of free and standardized operating
> systems isn't oriented at market share, there is no reason
> for Adobe to follow a crying "Please!" :-)
There is only one
On Sat, Mar 6, 2010 at 9:25 AM, Polytropon wrote:
> On Sat, 6 Mar 2010 09:03:58 +0100, Sabine Baer wrote:
>> Well, it is, indeed. Me I am very glad beeing able to do eg
>> linux-opera -display :0 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bhmf4l4OxNw
>> since I live in a Windows free zone at home.
>
> Well,
On Fri, Mar 5, 2010 at 11:53 PM, Jerry wrote:
> Adobe, a commercial entity, obviously feels that the cost of
> supporting the FreeBSD community is not a financially prudent business
> venture.
Well, that's their decision, of course. However, Linux and FreeBSD
aren't so far apart either, at least
> On Fri, 5 Mar 2010 23:02:36 -, "Graham Bentley"
> wrote:
>>
>> > It looks very bad for browsing web without flash viewer.
>>
>> I think it looks great - no ads !!! Hurray !!!
>
> I may politely add that exactly this is the reason I removed
> a working "Flash" support from my system. I rathe
Pongthep Kulkrisada wrote:
> * Warren Block (wbl...@wonkity.com) wrote:
> > When you upgrade from 7.x to 8.x, it's necessary to rebuild
> > *all* ports.
> ...
> Some people only use console, they should rebuild all ports
> relating to their work.
> They do not have to rebuild KDE or GNOME, for exa
On Sat, 6 Mar 2010 08:46:16 -, "Graham Bentley" wrote:
> Points very well made. In fact shouldn't we be campaigning against
> such closed source perversion of our Open Standards Internet, not
> complaining that one company doesn't make a media content viewer
> for us?
In fact, if Adobe wishes
On Sat, 6 Mar 2010 09:03:58 +0100, Sabine Baer wrote:
> Well, it is, indeed. Me I am very glad beeing able to do eg
> linux-opera -display :0 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bhmf4l4OxNw
> since I live in a Windows free zone at home.
Well, there's always "youtube-dl -a" for that. Just for YT
I don'
On Sat, Mar 06, 2010 at 04:49:16AM +0100, Polytropon wrote:
[SNAFU]
> That's the situation with "Flash". And as I have experienced
> it, I can honestly say that I'm fine without "Flash". I may
> review my opinion, if given some reason to do so.
>
> But as it has already been mentioned, that's a
* C. P. Ghost (cpgh...@cordula.ws) wrote:
> On Fri, Mar 5, 2010 at 6:12 PM, Pongthep Kulkrisada
> wrote:
> > % uname -a
> > FreeBSD bsdhost.localdomain 8.0-STABLE FreeBSD 8.0-STABLE #0: Tue Dec 1
> > 19:12:37 ICT 2009 r...@bsdhost.localdomain:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC
> > i386
>
> So
* daniele (gl...@live.com) wrote:
> Dont worry I wanted to try to help for what I can. I installed the
> plugin this morning and I was curious.
Thank you again for your kind.
> It's strange though. The plugin is there. I dont know if there's a kind
> of log somewhere to see if it "sees" it.
I al
* Warren Block (wbl...@wonkity.com) wrote:
> When you upgrade from 7.x to 8.x, it's necessary to rebuild *all* ports.
Thanks for your suggestion, but it does not seem likely.
All operating systems can always distinguish the system and packages.
For instance, gcc is tightly coupled with the system
On Fri, 5 Mar 2010 23:02:36 -, "Graham Bentley" wrote:
>
> > It looks very bad for browsing web without flash viewer.
>
> I think it looks great - no ads !!! Hurray !!!
I may politely add that exactly this is the reason I removed
a working "Flash" support from my system. I rather like to
se
On Fri, Mar 5, 2010 at 5:02 PM, Graham Bentley wrote:
>
>> It looks very bad for browsing web without flash viewer.
>
> I think it looks great - no ads !!! Hurray !!!
>
Bingo!
If the OP wants M$-like flash support, then . . . well . . . use M$
(and its friend$). It's not really fair to complain
> It looks very bad for browsing web without flash viewer.
I think it looks great - no ads !!! Hurray !!!
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On Fri, 5 Mar 2010 18:54:40 +0100
C. P. Ghost articulated:
> Of course, it's all a matter of personal tastes, likes and dislikes.
> I'd rather have a native flash plugin for FreeBSD/amd64 too (Firefox
> and Opera), but this is unlikely in the near future, knowing the
> miserable track record of A
On Fri, 5 Mar 2010, Pongthep Kulkrisada wrote:
Or the problem is that I cvsup(ed) from 7.1 to 7.2 and then csup(ed) to 8.0.
Some libraries are probably not updated???
But ``make install'' success, so libraries should not be problems.
I don't know.
When you upgrade from 7.x to 8.x, it's necessa
On Fri, Mar 5, 2010 at 6:12 PM, Pongthep Kulkrisada wrote:
> * C. P. Ghost (cpgh...@cordula.ws) wrote:
>> If you csup, you update only /usr/src (or /usr/ports). Have you actually
>> updated the system and the ports as well?
> % uname -a
> FreeBSD bsdhost.localdomain 8.0-STABLE FreeBSD 8.0-STABLE #
* C. P. Ghost (cpgh...@cordula.ws) wrote:
> If you csup, you update only /usr/src (or /usr/ports). Have you actually
> updated the system and the ports as well?
% uname -a
FreeBSD bsdhost.localdomain 8.0-STABLE FreeBSD 8.0-STABLE #0: Tue Dec 1
19:12:37 ICT 2009 r...@bsdhost.localdomain:/usr/o
* daniele (gl...@live.com) wrote:
> hmmm... :-/
>
> is at least now the web browser opera working ?
[edit]Yes, it is working but without flash. [/edit]
Thanks for your prompt response.
Pongthep
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* daniele (gl...@live.com) wrote:
> hmmm... :-/
>
> is at least now the web browser opera working ?
Yes it is working.
Thanks for your prompt response.
Pongthep
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On Fri, Mar 5, 2010 at 5:12 PM, Pongthep Kulkrisada wrote:
> Or the problem is that I cvsup(ed) from 7.1 to 7.2 and then csup(ed) to 8.0.
If you csup, you update only /usr/src (or /usr/ports). Have you actually
updated the system and the ports as well?
> FBSD should make it simpler than this.
I
On 03/05/10 17:12, Pongthep Kulkrisada wrote:
* daniele (gl...@live.com) wrote:
HI !
I tested the process of installing firefox/opera and flash plugin.
Everything run on my system FreeBSD 8, even though I did not stress
browser& plugin.
Here's all the step that I took to make the flash plugin
* daniele (gl...@live.com) wrote:
> HI !
>
> I tested the process of installing firefox/opera and flash plugin.
> Everything run on my system FreeBSD 8, even though I did not stress
> browser & plugin.
>
> Here's all the step that I took to make the flash plugin work for
> firefox and opera (basica
On 03/05/10 12:00, Pongthep Kulkrisada wrote:
* Polytropon (free...@edvax.de) wrote:
Do you have compat7x installed?
No I don't.
If you already updated to OS 8.0,
you should update your ports tree, too, and
use the current ports.
I always csup the SELECTED port tree but not all.
Just insta
* Polytropon (free...@edvax.de) wrote:
> Do you have compat7x installed?
No I don't.
> If you already updated to OS 8.0,
> you should update your ports tree, too, and
> use the current ports.
I always csup the SELECTED port tree but not all.
> Just installing isn't enough, there's some configurat
On Fri, Mar 5, 2010 at 6:14 AM, Pongthep Kulkrisada wrote:
> The problem is that ``flash viewer'' is not installed.
> Shockwave/Adobe/Macromedia flash viewers are not shipped with FBSD CD.
I'm running OpenSolaris/x86 as guest in VirtualBox on FreeBSD/amd64
for that, since Adobe provides a Flash p
On Fri, Mar 05, 2010 at 12:14:15PM +0700, Pongthep Kulkrisada wrote:
[...]
> I use opera-10.10 for web browsing.
> It looks very bad for browsing web without flash viewer.
> I tried installing from ports.
> - opera-linuxplugins-10.10.
> - linux-f10-flashplugin-10.0
> - f4l-0.2.1.4 (I guess
On Fri, 5 Mar 2010 12:14:15 +0700, Pongthep Kulkrisada
wrote:
> I installed FBSD 7.1 with KDE 3.5 from CD.
> Then I csup(ed) and buildworld to FBSD 7.2 and then finally FBSD 8.0
> while remaining KDE unchanged.
Do you have compat7x installed? If you already updated
to OS 8.0, you should update
Hi all,
I have been using FBSD since 5.4 until now 8.0.
Mostly, I use it as a server and coding C (as my hobby).
All the time I stay in console without fancy of any GUI.
For GUI applications, I mostly use Windows.
Now I want to use only FBSD for web browsing and don't want to use Windows.
I insta
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