Re: MS Exchange server on FreeBSD?

2005-03-19 Thread Anthony Atkielski
Jerry Bell writes: > I'll second that the calendar/email functionality has become a utility > service in many organizations. Exchange/outlook, for all their > shortcomings, have really changed the way companies work. They get spoiled. I suppose there's no harm in that intrinsically, but it does

Re: MS Exchange server on FreeBSD?

2005-03-19 Thread Anthony Atkielski
Mike Jeays writes: > I have to disagree with this! In my organization, a government > department with about 6,000 staff ... I said FOR SMALL INSTALLATIONS, not organizations of 6000 people. I'm thinking more of small businesses with a single geographic location and perhaps in the range of 100 e

Re: MS Exchange server on FreeBSD?

2005-03-19 Thread Anthony Atkielski
Jim Durham writes: > Personally, I wouldn't wish Exchange on my worst enemy. It uses a > database to store mail and, if that database becomes corrupted, > you can lose all the email for the company. All e-mail systems use a database of some type; the only differences are in how visible the struc

RE: Adaptec AAC raid support

2005-03-19 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt
> -Original Message- > From: Charles Swiger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Saturday, March 19, 2005 3:43 PM > To: Ted Mittelstaedt > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Theo de Raadt; freebsd list > Subject: Re: Adaptec AAC raid support > > > Maybe I was thinking of the PERC 3, then-- this one: >

Re: Question: USB block dev, Olympus Camedia digital camera

2005-03-19 Thread Robert Marella
Peer Böhm wrote: Hello everyone, I am new to BSD-style operating systems, and currently reading about and seriously considering a migration from Linux to free BSD on my home machine. Before I do that, I would like to make sure (as far as possible) that my critical applications will continue to work

Re: MS Exchange server on FreeBSD?

2005-03-19 Thread Anthony Atkielski
Nick Pavlica writes: > I referenced the Novell GroupWise product. I'm not sure what you > were referencing with the generic "Groupware" that you mentioned. Within this context they are roughly the same thing. > It's clear that you have little knowledge of this technology and may > want to spend

Re: ksu doesn't use my ticket

2005-03-19 Thread Tillman Hodgson
On Sat, Mar 19, 2005 at 08:53:18PM -0600, Kirk Strauser wrote: > On Saturday 19 March 2005 02:22 pm, Tillman Hodgson wrote: > > > The ksu from the mit-krb5 port works the way you expect it to. > > Thanks for the info. Any idea why the one in the base system wouldn't, > though? I'm loathe to re

Does 5.3 support Raid 1 on VT8237?

2005-03-19 Thread Jim Freeze
Hi I am trying to install 5.3 on a system with an on board raid controller (VT8237), but am having troubles getting the installer to see the raid drive. I have configured the drive in the bios as Raid 1, but the installer shows two drives. Some helpful specs are: Motherboard: ECS EliteGroup PT80

Re: Adaptec AAC raid support

2005-03-19 Thread Marsh J. Ray
Charles Swiger wrote: On Mar 19, 2005, at 3:43 PM, Theo de Raadt wrote: > Sorry, did not find the sources for ports/sysutils/aaccli See http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/src/sys/dev/aac Yep, definitely not the sources for ports/sysutils/aaccli. - Marsh J. Ray _

Re: Theo de Raadt

2005-03-19 Thread Mario Hoerich
# Morten Johansen: [ http://mail-index.netbsd.org/netbsd-users/1993/11/15/0003.html ] > > Date: 11/15/1993 16:27:50 [...] > Mr. Deraadt made the following [patently false] statement about the > FreeBSD team: [...] Well? Is there any point other than fanning the flames to this? Let's just sta

Theo de Raadt

2005-03-19 Thread Morten Johansen
Bill Sommerfeld is one of the architects of NetBSD's SMP support, which was imported into OpenBSD recently. http://mail-index.netbsd.org/netbsd-users/1993/11/15/0003.html Subject: another wonderful Theoism. To: None <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> From: Bill Sommerfeld <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List: netbsd-users

Re: MS Exchange server on FreeBSD?

2005-03-19 Thread Jerry Bell
I'll second that the calendar/email functionality has become a utility service in many organizations. Exchange/outlook, for all their shortcomings, have really changed the way companies work. At my day job, we have 9 exchange servers around the world, with about 1500 mailboxes, so not a huge inst

Re: aac support

2005-03-19 Thread Tobias Weingartner
On Saturday, March 19, Sean Hafeez wrote: > > There has got to be a better way to work with the vendors in order to > get the support we need. It just seem to me that the "screw you guys, I > am going home" stuff just does not work. Other approaches have been tried. Extensively, and for a long

Re: aac support

2005-03-19 Thread Theo de Raadt
> There has got to be a better way to work with the vendors in order to > get the support we need. It just seem to me that the "screw you guys, I > am going home" stuff just does not work. Well, there is. We do it all the time! We mail a vendor, and then we start a frank dialogue. I (or some

Mail Delivery Subsystem: Returned mail: see transcript for details

2005-03-19 Thread Theo de Raadt
Adaptec, as a vendor, really cares about you. That is why their commercial contacts disable their email accounts when the shit hits the fan. That is Doug Richardson Title? Global Channel Marketing Manager The guy who said *HE* was the one responsible for changing views within Adaptec. Buggy h

how do i add 5.3 to my drive with w2k?

2005-03-19 Thread Gary Kline
hi gang, i just installed w2k with firefox and more on the 1st 10g of my 160g drive. i'm ready to install freebsd 5.3 on the remainder. can i get by using the default fbsd boot loader? tips and advice, please. gary -- Gary Kline

Re: Adaptec AAC raid support

2005-03-19 Thread Theo de Raadt
Well spoken, Ben. Very well spoken. > On 2005 Mar 19, at 1:21 PM, Scott Long wrote: > > > The hardware is tricky > > to get right and there are bugs in different cards and different > > firmware versions that often need to be worked around. It's all > > documented in my driver, and I'm happy to

Re: aac support

2005-03-19 Thread Jason Crawford
Theo has already talked with enough people to get the number of over 1,800 adaptec aac raid controllers being currently used by openbsd users. He has emailed this to Doug, Adaptec's contract for opening docs, and still nothing. It appears that Adaptec isn't interested in repeat business for probabl

Re: ksu doesn't use my ticket

2005-03-19 Thread Kirk Strauser
On Saturday 19 March 2005 02:22 pm, Tillman Hodgson wrote: > The ksu from the mit-krb5 port works the way you expect it to. Thanks for the info. Any idea why the one in the base system wouldn't, though? I'm loathe to replace the working installation if I don't have to. -- Kirk Strauser pgpP

Re: Adaptec AAC raid support

2005-03-19 Thread Jason Crawford
I never claimed that it was freebsd users that found it unacceptable. If you'll read my email, instead of just brushing through it, you'll see there isn't a part where I say, this is unacceptable to freebsd users. The fact that someone claims to support freedom of choice, and then removes choice fr

Re: Adaptec AAC raid support

2005-03-19 Thread Charles Swiger
On Mar 19, 2005, at 8:44 PM, Jason Crawford wrote: So something is only unacceptable if it has been previously talked about on a freebsd mailing list? Wow that's one big ego there. If it was acceptable, none of this would be happening, but it is. [ ... ] You are the one making claims about what Fr

Re: FreeBSD 4.x Opteron Question

2005-03-19 Thread em1897
You are a strange bird, Nick. Do what you want with your life, but don't preach your BS to others. No one cares how hard anyone works or how much they are paid if the work is crap. And if you're dumb enough to think that they really do it for "free", then you've been completely bamboozled and deser

Re: printer gone beszerk

2005-03-19 Thread Chris
Karl Agee wrote: > FreeBSD 4.11-Stable. My printer has gone beszerk...and, I cant > clear the queue. > > Here is some output: > > bash-2.05b$ lpq -P hp > Warning: unable to get address list for remote machine : No address > associated with hostname > Warning: no daemon present > Rank Owner

Re: Adaptec AAC raid support

2005-03-19 Thread Jason Crawford
So something is only unacceptable if it has been previously talked about on a freebsd mailing list? Wow that's one big ego there. If it was acceptable, none of this would be happening, but it is. And it would be A LOT easier to write an open source driver if Scott had pushed to open the docs sooner

printer gone beszerk

2005-03-19 Thread Karl Agee
FreeBSD 4.11-Stable. My printer has gone beszerk...and, I cant clear the queue. Here is some output: bash-2.05b$ lpq -P hp Warning: unable to get address list for remote machine : No address associated with hostname Warning: no daemon present Rank Owner Job Files

Re: FreeBSD 4.x Opteron Question

2005-03-19 Thread Nick Pavlica
I'm happy to see that I'm not the only one working on Saturday. I understand the business aspect of things, I have business that rely on this technology as well. The developers "Robert W."... don't owe us anything because we are not paying them. We didn't marry into there family, and didn't p

Re: Adaptec AAC raid support

2005-03-19 Thread Scott Ballantyne
On Sat, 2005-03-19 at 19:01, Jason Crawford wrote: > FreeBSD users.. also watch how Scott claims he is about freedom of > choice, yet proceeded to lock you into only one option for a RAID > card, which would seem to be anti-choice... and being pro-choice would > have pushed for open docs a long ti

Re: Adaptec AAC raid support

2005-03-19 Thread Charles Swiger
On Mar 19, 2005, at 7:20 PM, Jason Crawford wrote: I fail to see how this "FUD check" email has anything to do with the fact that Scott locked all freebsd users to Adaptec's binary-only management utility, which means the user IS NOT FREE to change something on it to either work better, fix a bug,

Re: MS Exchange server on FreeBSD?

2005-03-19 Thread Mike Jeays
On Sat, 2005-03-19 at 16:22, Anthony Atkielski wrote: > Christian Tischler writes: > > > Actually the number of users will be quite small, and bandwidth is not > > an consideration. > > For small installations, I don't think Exchange is really > cost-effective. It's quite a monster. Easy to jus

Re: MS Exchange server on FreeBSD?

2005-03-19 Thread Jim Durham
On Saturday 19 March 2005 04:03 am, Christian Tischler wrote: > Thanks for all the replies. I will take a look at the, more or > less, open solutions. I never intended to use the MS exchange > as my primary mail server. But its functionality for syncinig > calenders, documents and so on, seemed to

Re: Adaptec AAC raid support

2005-03-19 Thread Jason Crawford
I fail to see how this "FUD check" email has anything to do with the fact that Scott locked all freebsd users to Adaptec's binary-only management utility, which means the user IS NOT FREE to change something on it to either work better, fix a bug, add a feature, or just experiment, as well as just

Re: aac support

2005-03-19 Thread Marc Espie
On Sat, Mar 19, 2005 at 12:38:48PM -0700, Scott Long wrote: > Oh boo hoo. You never contacted me. Others in that past have. No, I > can't now and never could before give out docs, but I've always been > happy to help, review code, point out bugs, etc. Ask the BSD/OS guys, > ask the OSDL guys, o

Re: Adaptec AAC raid support

2005-03-19 Thread Charles Swiger
On Mar 19, 2005, at 7:01 PM, Jason Crawford wrote: FreeBSD users.. also watch how Scott claims he is about freedom of choice, yet proceeded to lock you into only one option for a RAID card, which would seem to be anti-choice... and being pro-choice would have pushed for open docs a long time ago. F

Windows Mobile connected via uppc-kmod, anyone?

2005-03-19 Thread Georg-W. Koltermann
Hi, I am trying to connect my BlueMedia PDA (rebrand of Yakumo Delta 300 GPS) to FreeBSD 5.3 using the uppc-kmod port. I am having problems to get the connection up. The ppp log shows that the link is established briefly but then immediately disconnects. It never makes it to talk to dccm. Is a

Re: Adaptec AAC raid support

2005-03-19 Thread Jason Crawford
On Sat, 19 Mar 2005 15:19:13 -0700, Theo de Raadt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Do you ask for the blueprints to the plane before you get onboard? Do > > you demand that Ford or GM give you the source to the fuel ingector > > computer before you get into a car? I'm saying that resources are out

Re: FreeBSD 4.x Opteron Question

2005-03-19 Thread em1897
You sound more like a politician than an engineer, Nick. I'm not a guinea pig, and I have a business to run,and I'm not going to spend an extra $400. per system to to get the same speed as with 4.x just to be one of the fellas. I have no obligation to care about their plight, just as they've in

Re: what is the difference between WCPU and CPU

2005-03-19 Thread Abu Khaled
On Sat, 19 Mar 2005 22:04:10 +0100, Gert Cuykens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I was looking at top and wondering the difference between WCPU and CPU Have you tried "man top" "WCPU, when displayed, is the weighted cpu percentage (this is the same value that ps(1) displays as CPU), CPU is the raw p

Re: MS Exchange server on FreeBSD?

2005-03-19 Thread Nick Pavlica
Anthony, I referenced the Novell GroupWise product. I'm not sure what you were referencing with the generic "Groupware" that you mentioned. It's clear that you have little knowledge of this technology and may want to spend some time learning about it before making blanket statements about it.

Re: /usr/ports/packages/

2005-03-19 Thread Emanuel Strobl
Am Samstag, 19. März 2005 21:34 schrieb Gert Cuykens: > Does only portmanager create packages ? Or does make install also make > a package ? How can i tell them to put all the packages in the > /usr/ports/packages/ instead of the port application directory ? If "/usr/ports/packages" exists 'make p

Re: Adaptec AAC raid support

2005-03-19 Thread Jason Crawford
You don't offer freedom of choice, what you offer is a binary-only solution, THAT IS THE ONLY SOLUTION, for that card. If you really did stand for freedom of choice, then you would have started pushing to open documentation way before this. Locking your users into only one way of doing something su

Re: Adaptec AAC raid support

2005-03-19 Thread Charles Swiger
On Mar 19, 2005, at 6:02 PM, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: I don't think Adaptec dictated terms to Intel vis-a-vis the i860 chips used for hardware parity computation on some of their RAID cards, for example. I don't think Adaptec dictated terms to Dell vis-a-vis the PERC 4 series, either. Whaat? Dell?

QEMU not support Windows VPN ? (2nd try)

2005-03-19 Thread bsdzz
Hello, I have been trying to connect from my FreeBSD box to a Microsoft VPN. I am running Windows 2000 Pro and also Windows Millenium inside QEMU. I have also tried using both "-user-net" and "/dev/tun0" connections. The connections fail while trying to authenticate my name and password. Is

Re: Adaptec AAC raid support

2005-03-19 Thread Tobias Weingartner
On Saturday, March 19, Scott Long wrote: > Theo de Raadt wrote: > > > > Why do you keep discussing the free stuff, and distracting everyone > > from the non-free bits? > > > > Is it because you used to work for Adaptec? Are you paid to distract > > people from the non-free code? > > No, but you

Weird USB KVM Woes in 5.4-PRE

2005-03-19 Thread Remington
FreeBSD baby 5.4-PRERELEASE FreeBSD 5.4-PRERELEASE #7: Sat Mar 12 14:22:16 PST 2005 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/AMD64 amd64 What I am doing is using a KVM with my AMD64 laptop. The KVM cables are PS/2 so I have Radio Shack PS/2-2-TO-USB cable adapters to connect both my mouse and k

Re: FreeBSD 4.x Opteron Question

2005-03-19 Thread Nick Pavlica
Hello, On Fri, 18 Mar 2005 22:16:05 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > -Original Message- > From: Nick Pavlica <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Sent: Fri, 18 Mar 2005 19:45:44 -0700 > Subject: R

RE: Adaptec AAC raid support

2005-03-19 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt
> -Original Message- > From: Charles Swiger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Saturday, March 19, 2005 2:21 PM > To: Ted Mittelstaedt > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Theo de Raadt; freebsd list > Subject: Re: Adaptec AAC raid support > > I don't think Adaptec dictated terms to Intel vis-a-vis t

compile problem of mozilla

2005-03-19 Thread Antoine Solomon
having a problem trying to compile mozilla-1.7.5_2,2 nsFontMetricsPS.cpp: In member function `virtual void nsFT2Type8Generator::GeneratePSFont(FILE*)': nsFontMetricsPS.cpp:1625: error: 'struct FTC_ImageTypeRec_' has no member named 'face_id' nsFontMetricsPS.cpp:1627: error: 'struct FTC_ImageTypeRe

Re: Adaptec AAC raid support

2005-03-19 Thread Theo de Raadt
> I'm done with this thread. A closed binary managmeent app isn't ideal, > but it's better than nothing. I worked on it because I knew the > compromises I could make at the time and I wanted to give the FreeBSD > community something for it. I don't have infinite time and resources > to fight the

Re: Adaptec AAC raid support

2005-03-19 Thread Charles Swiger
On Mar 19, 2005, at 4:48 PM, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: Scott is or was under NDA with Adaptec. Scott certainly is not in a position to give away all of Adaptec's internal documentation. Frankly, I doubt even the CEO of Adaptec would be free to simply give away all of their internal docs-- Adaptec un

Re: Adaptec AAC raid support

2005-03-19 Thread Theo de Raadt
> Do you ask for the blueprints to the plane before you get onboard? Do > you demand that Ford or GM give you the source to the fuel ingector > computer before you get into a car? I'm saying that resources are out > there that will allow OpenBSD users to manage their RAID arrays RIGHT > NOW.

Re: Adaptec AAC raid support

2005-03-19 Thread Scott Long
Theo de Raadt wrote: I'm not stuffing anything down anyone's throats. You are insulting me on public lists. You are, thus, also telling your users not to bother your beloved Adaptec. You're telling them what the binary which you worked on is the best they are going to get. I'm enabling FreeBSD u

Re: Adaptec AAC raid support

2005-03-19 Thread Bob Beck
> I'm not stuffing anything down anyone's throats. I'm enabling FreeBSD > users to use the resources that are available to them. That's quite > different than cancelling developer work and threatening to remove a > driver due to a political dispute. Freedom isn't about coercing others > to be

Re: just finished install

2005-03-19 Thread Paul Schmehl
--On Saturday, March 19, 2005 12:32 PM -0500 Francis Whittington <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hello All, I just finished installing fbsd for the 8th time. I just want to get it up and running so I can start learning to use it . I have not gotten X to work yet on the bsd box yetexcept when I

Re: Adaptec AAC raid support

2005-03-19 Thread Theo de Raadt
> I'm not stuffing anything down anyone's throats. You are insulting me on public lists. You are, thus, also telling your users not to bother your beloved Adaptec. You're telling them what the binary which you worked on is the best they are going to get. > I'm enabling FreeBSD > users to use t

RE: Adaptec AAC raid support

2005-03-19 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt
> -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Bnonn > Sent: Saturday, March 19, 2005 12:59 PM > To: FreeBSD Questions Mailing List > Subject: Re: Adaptec AAC raid support > > > Theo, I'd like to make a comment as a new user in this community: > > I t

RE: aac support

2005-03-19 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt
> -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Bob Beck > Sent: Saturday, March 19, 2005 1:44 PM > To: Bram Van Dam > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: aac support > > > > > Of course, sooner or later someone will kin

Re: Adaptec AAC raid support

2005-03-19 Thread Theo de Raadt
> I'll heartily agree that there is little reason for any company to > keep information like this closed. Yet you are not helping. > But going around making personal > attacks on company employees that don't give you the cookie you want > is pretty shitty too. Then I guess that Doug Richardson m

RE: Adaptec AAC raid support

2005-03-19 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt
> -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Charles Swiger > Sent: Saturday, March 19, 2005 1:30 PM > To: Theo de Raadt > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Scott Long; Sean Hafeez; > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: Adaptec AAC raid support > > >

Re: Adaptec AAC raid support

2005-03-19 Thread Scott Long
Theo de Raadt wrote: What part of the FreeBSD AAC driver is closed, emcumbered, or otherwise non-free? The bits that do management. Therefore, the bits that let it do what RAID controllers are meant to do. Can you fully operate an aac(4) card -- 100% of it's abilities, on a FreeBSD machine, witho

Re: aac support

2005-03-19 Thread Bob Beck
> Of course, sooner or later someone will kindly point them in the > direction of electronic documentation, in which case I'm sure they'll > come up with the "oops, our Acrobat licence expired"-excuse. Your flippant reply, doesn't illustrate the source of the real problem. Companies in

RE: Adaptec AAC raid support

2005-03-19 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt
Theo and Scott, a few words: Theo: I happen to own a system that runs FreeBSD and uses an Adaptec AAA card, here's the dmesg: ahc0: port 0x1000-0x10ff mem 0x4040-0x407f,0x4010-0x40100fff irq 11 at device 0.0 on pci2 RAID functionality unsupported device_probe_and_attach: ahc0 attach

Re: Adaptec AAC raid support

2005-03-19 Thread Theo de Raadt
> What part of the FreeBSD AAC driver is closed, emcumbered, or otherwise > non-free? The bits that do management. Therefore, the bits that let it do what RAID controllers are meant to do. Can you fully operate an aac(4) card -- 100% of it's abilities, on a FreeBSD machine, without using a bina

Re: Adaptec AAC raid support

2005-03-19 Thread Jason Crawford
The fact that the management utiltiy it uses is closed binary-only-can't-distrubute type of utility, means it can't be used by anyone who really cares about stability of their system, development, or who just loves freedom. And won't be used by this community which accounts for over 1,800 adaptec A

Re: Adaptec AAC raid support

2005-03-19 Thread Charles Swiger
On Mar 19, 2005, at 3:50 PM, Theo de Raadt wrote: Sigh. Theo, there are lots of ways of interacting with other people: if you go out of your way to antagonize somebody, the result is generally not going to be positive. I think Scott is mature enough to continue to help other BSD projects-- includ

Re: MS Exchange server on FreeBSD?

2005-03-19 Thread Anthony Atkielski
Christian Tischler writes: > Actually the number of users will be quite small, and bandwidth is not > an consideration. For small installations, I don't think Exchange is really cost-effective. It's quite a monster. Easy to justify in a large organization where all IT projects are monsters, any

Re: Adaptec AAC raid support

2005-03-19 Thread Bob Beck
> Sorry, I got suckered into a side argument about why the kernel driver > in OpenBSD sucks. Yes, the management app is closed, but the driver is > open. And if the OpenBSD driver sucks and people want it to stop > crashing and don't want to go beating their heads against the wall at > Adaptec a

Re: Adaptec AAC raid support

2005-03-19 Thread Bob Beck
> you guys want to produce fully open and unencumbered stuff. That's > wonderful. But why is it so important to go around screaming and > yelling about it and alientating those who do try to help? Let me > tell you, Doug is about the most positive and supportive guy you'll > ever have at Adaptec

Re: Adaptec AAC raid support

2005-03-19 Thread Thierry Deval
Charles Swiger wrote: On Mar 19, 2005, at 2:39 PM, Theo de Raadt wrote: Those controllers will not be supported in OpenBSD 3.7 in May. If Adaptec wishes them to be supported in a future release, they had better come and make amends. We are sick of supporting the hardware of vendors who shit on th

what is the difference between WCPU and CPU

2005-03-19 Thread Gert Cuykens
I was looking at top and wondering the difference between WCPU and CPU ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"

Re: Adaptec AAC raid support

2005-03-19 Thread Bnonn
Theo, I'd like to make a comment as a new user in this community: I think BSD is great. I don't care what flavor you're talking about; I think they're great. I use FreeBSD, but I have great respect for OpenBSD and the others, and it was a hard choice deciding which to run. However, when I see TOP

Re: Stupid ASCII loader prompt

2005-03-19 Thread Jerry McAllister
> > -Original Message- > > From: Jerry McAllister [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Friday, March 18, 2005 6:47 AM > > To: Ted Mittelstaedt > > Cc: Jerry McAllister; ""Marco Greene (ML)""; > > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > > Subject: Re: Stupid ASCII loader prompt > > > > > > > > The ul

Fwd: Adaptec AAC raid support

2005-03-19 Thread Jason Crawford
Sorry, forgot you guys too! -- Forwarded message -- From: Jason Crawford <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2005 15:51:08 -0500 Subject: Re: Adaptec AAC raid support To: Scott Long <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: Aaron Glenn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Adam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Theo de Raadt

Re: Adaptec AAC raid support

2005-03-19 Thread Bob Beck
> > ...deliberately breaking OpenBSD's support for Adaptec hardware as some > sort of ultimatum is a childish and self-destructive action. I hope > the other OpenBSD committers veto any such action as being > counterproductive and harmful to your users. Horsecookies. What was done was

cc: cannot

2005-03-19 Thread Dick Hoogendijk
"cc: cannot specify -o with -c or -S and multiple compilations" Compiling of gnome-vfs-2.10.0 stops with errors and this is not nice, cause I need this dep for bluefish. Does this error sounds familiar to somebody? An error in the port? (gnome is up2date) -- dick -- http://nagual.st/ -- PGP/Gn

Re: Adaptec AAC raid support

2005-03-19 Thread Theo de Raadt
> I personally don't care about Adaptec anymore, but I do care about the > people there. If LSI or whoever else can provide better support, then > that's fine with me. I do however have quite a bit of experience in > knowing how things work at Adaptec and knowing what compromises can be > made.

Re: Adaptec AAC raid support

2005-03-19 Thread Charles Swiger
On Mar 19, 2005, at 3:43 PM, Theo de Raadt wrote: It's not a binary driver, it's a 2-clause BSD licensed driver that contains full source. You said that the OpenBSD driver is unstable, so I offered to help. That has nothing to do with binary apps. From http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/pds.cgi?ports

Re: Adaptec AAC raid support

2005-03-19 Thread Theo de Raadt
> Sigh. Theo, there are lots of ways of interacting with other people: > if you go out of your way to antagonize somebody, the result is > generally not going to be positive. I think Scott is mature enough to > continue to help other BSD projects-- including OpenBSD-- regardless, > but this s

Re: Adaptec AAC raid support

2005-03-19 Thread Theo de Raadt
> It's not a binary driver, it's a 2-clause BSD licensed driver that > contains full source. You said that the OpenBSD driver is unstable, > so I offered to help. That has nothing to do with binary apps. From http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/pds.cgi?ports/sysutils/aaccli Sources for ports/s

Re: Adaptec AAC raid support

2005-03-19 Thread Jason Crawford
Even a working driver without any management utilities is not what I would want to run on a production server. I need to be able to find out what is wrong with the RAID setup, if anything, state of all the disks, etc... which I cannot do without rebooting. And I fail to see how letting a community

Re: Adaptec AAC raid support

2005-03-19 Thread Theo de Raadt
> It's not a binary driver, it's a 2-clause BSD licensed driver that > contains full source. You said that the OpenBSD driver is unstable, > so I offered to help. That has nothing to do with binary apps. > Deleting it from the OpenBSD tree is always an option, of course. The driver is free, but

/usr/ports/packages/

2005-03-19 Thread Gert Cuykens
Does only portmanager create packages ? Or does make install also make a package ? How can i tell them to put all the packages in the /usr/ports/packages/ instead of the port application directory ? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://li

Re: Adaptec AAC raid support

2005-03-19 Thread Scott Long
It's not a binary driver, it's a 2-clause BSD licensed driver that contains full source. You said that the OpenBSD driver is unstable, so I offered to help. That has nothing to do with binary apps. Deleting it from the OpenBSD tree is always an option, of course. Scott Jason Crawford wrote: The

Re: Adaptec AAC raid support

2005-03-19 Thread Jason Crawford
The OpenBSD community doesn't want help for closed utilities and drivers. All we want is documentation. No source, no binary-only-cannot-distrubute drivers and utilities, just enough documenatation for which to write their drivers, and support oursevles. No one has been able to answer us on how rel

FreeBSD equivalent for SEGV_MAPERR?

2005-03-19 Thread J.T. Conklin
I'm working on autoconf support for ACE (A C++ framework) and TAO (Real-time CORBA ORB). The resulting configuration is failing for FreeBSD, something I'd like before the upcoming ACE/TAO release. I downloaded FreeBSD 5.3 and installed it under vmware to reproduce (and hopefully fix) this probl

Re: ksu doesn't use my ticket

2005-03-19 Thread Tillman Hodgson
On Sat, Mar 19, 2005 at 01:53:58PM -0600, Kirk Strauser wrote: > I have a working kdc on my LAN and use OpenSSH's "gssapi-with-mic" > authentication to connect to other machines. However, I can't > use /usr/bin/ksu to su to root without entering root's password, even if I > have a current, vali

Re: just finished install

2005-03-19 Thread Chris Hill
On Sat, 19 Mar 2005, Francis Whittington wrote: My main computer is WinXP (because the rest of the family uses it). It is connected to Adelphia cable modem via a D-Link, DI-524 wireless router. My Daughter is connected to internet via the WLAN. My freeBSD box is connected to modem via a cross

Re: Adaptec AAC raid support

2005-03-19 Thread Charles Swiger
On Mar 19, 2005, at 2:39 PM, Theo de Raadt wrote: [ ... ] Sigh. Theo, there are lots of ways of interacting with other people: if you go out of your way to antagonize somebody, the result is generally not going to be positive. I think Scott is mature enough to continue to help other BSD projec

Re: Adaptec AAC raid support

2005-03-19 Thread Theo de Raadt
> I'd love to have fully open stuff from all the RAID > companies too, but I also want the users of FreeBSD to be able to use > the resources that are out there to their full advantage and not be > pinned down by my political beliefs on the subject. Which is why you go onto public posting sites an

Re: aac support

2005-03-19 Thread Aaron Glenn
On Sat, 19 Mar 2005 12:38:48 -0700, Scott Long <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Otherwise, stop crying that no one will help you. Please enlighten us (those who buy Adaptec hardware and would like full functionality on OpenBSD) why no one at Adaptec will help the OpenBSD developers by simply giving t

Re: aac support

2005-03-19 Thread Sean Hafeez
There has got to be a better way to work with the vendors in order to get the support we need. It just seem to me that the "screw you guys, I am going home" stuff just does not work. The vendors need a business case in order to do things - they are in business to make money and I can agree wit

ksu doesn't use my ticket

2005-03-19 Thread Kirk Strauser
I have a working kdc on my LAN and use OpenSSH's "gssapi-with-mic" authentication to connect to other machines. However, I can't use /usr/bin/ksu to su to root without entering root's password, even if I have a current, valid ticket and am listed in root's .k5login; $ sudo cat /root/.k5login #

Re: aac support

2005-03-19 Thread Scott Long
Theo de Raadt wrote: re: http://osnews.com/comment.php?news_id=10032&offset=15&rows=28 See a posting from Scott Long of FreeBSD; --- Thanks for going to a public forum and saying I am full of crap. I really appreciate that. Boy, you sure do want to see all of our projects do well, don't you. Appar

Re: Adaptec AAC raid support

2005-03-19 Thread Theo de Raadt
> Theo de Raadt wrote: > >>While I understand what you want Theo lets not remove the support for > >>stuff that currently works. I just spent $349 on a Adaptec RAID card > >>for my home server and if the support is removed I will be very upset. > >>The drive is written. Leave it alone. Let it be

Re: aac support

2005-03-19 Thread Theo de Raadt
To make it easier for people to find Scott Long's post to osnews.com here it is in full: --- Direct comment link From a BSD and former Adaptec person... By Scott (IP: ---.samsco.org) - Posted on 2005-03-19 19:02:37 I don't know if it's better to post this here or onto the openbsd-m

Re: MS Exchange server on FreeBSD?

2005-03-19 Thread pete wright
On Sat, 19 Mar 2005 07:52:19 -0500 (EST), Jerry Bell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > One option is to use communigate. It allegedly works with the outlook > mapi client and should work on freebsd. > http://www.stalker.com/content/solutions.htm > > I've heard from a lot of people that swear by it, pa

aac support

2005-03-19 Thread Theo de Raadt
re: http://osnews.com/comment.php?news_id=10032&offset=15&rows=28 See a posting from Scott Long of FreeBSD; --- Thanks for going to a public forum and saying I am full of crap. I really appreciate that. Boy, you sure do want to see all of our projects do well, don't you. Apparently you have ze

Re: kern.maxpipekva exceeded, please see tuning(7)

2005-03-19 Thread John DeStefano
> From: Jason Henson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2005 02:00:48 + > Subject: Re: kern.maxpipekva exceeded, please see tuning(7) > On 03/13/05 15:44:32, John DeStefano wrote: > > I have seen a mention or two of this error on the lists before, > > in

Re: just finished install

2005-03-19 Thread Tom Vilot
Hello, Francis My main computer is WinXP (because the rest of the family uses it). It is connected to Adelphia cable modem via a D-Link, DI-524 wireless router. My Daughter is connected to internet via the WLAN. My freeBSD box is connected to modem via a crossover cable. bsd box has 96MB of R

Re: Recommendations for "All-in-One" device?

2005-03-19 Thread Madhusudan Singh
On Saturday 19 March 2005 08:29, Brian J. McGovern wrote: > I'm currently in the market for an "All-in-One" device for the home > network, mostly for the fax functionality (it'll be replacing an Canon > scanner and Okidata 810e laser printer). Before anyone suggests their > favorite FreeBSD Fax mod

Re: NFS and file locking

2005-03-19 Thread Philip M. Golllucci
Hi, That works! I haven't tried it yet, but is it better to use the -L or run these 3 services ? Also, if anyone knows how to add this in fstab that would be nice too... Not that I reboot that often :) Thanks! -L Do not forward fcntl(2) locks over the wire. All locks will be local and not s

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