Re: xorg upgrade and /etc/ttys regression

2009-01-29 Thread Oliver Fromme
Just to be clear ... Am I understanding things right that the new X server requires hald and dbus running? It won't work anymore without them? (That would be a good reason for me not to update.) Best regards Oliver -- Oliver Fromme, secnetix GmbH & Co. KG, Marktplatz 29, 85567 Grafing b. M

Re: xorg upgrade and /etc/ttys regression

2009-01-29 Thread Olivier SMEDTS
2009/1/29 Oliver Fromme : > Just to be clear ... Am I understanding things right that > the new X server requires hald and dbus running? It won't > work anymore without them? It's not required, you can still build, install and run xorg-server WITHOUT_HAL=yes. But you need to add a line in your /

Re: Unhappy Xorg upgrade

2009-01-29 Thread Bruce M. Simpson
Alex Goncharov wrote: I hate to say this, but the new X (as exists in the current FreeBSD ports) sucks and gets in the way of work big time. There are definitely issues with xorg-7.4 at the moment. The root issue seems to be that USB mice simply don't work for me, and running Xorg appe

Re: Unhappy Xorg upgrade

2009-01-29 Thread Alex Goncharov
,--- You/Bruce (Thu, 29 Jan 2009 12:06:45 +) * | One theory is that somehow the mouse driver ioctls which are passed | to ums, are somehow hosing USB, although why that would be, I don't | understand. ums currently doesn't have driver instrumentation in that path. | | I pulled a

Re: xorg upgrade and /etc/ttys regression

2009-01-29 Thread Robert Noland
On Thu, 2009-01-29 at 10:55 +0100, Oliver Fromme wrote: > Just to be clear ... Am I understanding things right that > the new X server requires hald and dbus running? It won't > work anymore without them? > > (That would be a good reason for me not to update.) It will work without it. you need

Re: Unhappy Xorg upgrade

2009-01-29 Thread Robert Noland
On Thu, 2009-01-29 at 07:46 -0500, Alex Goncharov wrote: > ,--- You/Bruce (Thu, 29 Jan 2009 12:06:45 +) * > | One theory is that somehow the mouse driver ioctls which are passed > | to ums, are somehow hosing USB, although why that would be, I don't > | understand. ums currently doesn

Re: Unhappy Xorg upgrade

2009-01-29 Thread Alex Goncharov
,--- You/Robert (Thu, 29 Jan 2009 08:40:11 -0500) * | I've had patches available for probably a couple of months now posted to | freebsd-...@. For the few people who tested it, I had no real issues | reported. We were stalled for a long time, While X kept moving, so the | amount of change was

Re: Unhappy Xorg upgrade

2009-01-29 Thread Robert Noland
On Thu, 2009-01-29 at 08:58 -0500, Alex Goncharov wrote: > ,--- You/Robert (Thu, 29 Jan 2009 08:40:11 -0500) * > | I've had patches available for probably a couple of months now posted to > | freebsd-...@. For the few people who tested it, I had no real issues > | reported. We were stalled fo

Re: Unhappy Xorg upgrade

2009-01-29 Thread Stephen Clark
Alex Goncharov wrote: ,--- You/Bruce (Thu, 29 Jan 2009 12:06:45 +) * | One theory is that somehow the mouse driver ioctls which are passed | to ums, are somehow hosing USB, although why that would be, I don't | understand. ums currently doesn't have driver instrumentation in that pa

Re: Unhappy Xorg upgrade

2009-01-29 Thread Alex Goncharov
,--- You/Robert (Thu, 29 Jan 2009 09:12:47 -0500) * | Problem is, it isn't just the Xserver... All of the pieces are | intertwined and so in many cases to update Xserver you also need to | update some/several libraries as well as all of your drivers. Xorg is | about 60 or 70 ports now. That c

Re: Unhappy Xorg upgrade

2009-01-29 Thread Robert Noland
On Thu, 2009-01-29 at 08:16 -0500, Stephen Clark wrote: > Alex Goncharov wrote: > > ,--- You/Bruce (Thu, 29 Jan 2009 12:06:45 +) * > > | One theory is that somehow the mouse driver ioctls which are passed > > | to ums, are somehow hosing USB, although why that would be, I don't > > |

Re: cvs commit: ports/games/freecell-solver Makefile

2009-01-29 Thread QAT
Hi, Excerpt from http://QAT.TecNik93.com/logs/7-STABLE-FPT-NPD/freecell-solver-2.14.0.log : building freecell-solver-2.14.0 in directory /usr/local/tinderbox/7-STABLE-FPT-NPD maintained by: po...@freebsd.org building for: 7.1-STABLE amd64 Makefile ident: $FreeBSD: ports/games/freecell-solve

amavisd errors after perl upgrade

2009-01-29 Thread sho
I recently upgraded perl to 5.8.9, with portupgrade -rR, run perl-after-upgrade. Still run into some problems after that. Manually deinstalled and reinstalled many SA and Amavisd-new dependenices, but still get these errors in Amavisd-new with Mail:SPF. I completely unistalled and reinstalled p5-M

Re: Unhappy Xorg upgrade

2009-01-29 Thread Robert Noland
On Thu, 2009-01-29 at 09:25 -0500, Alex Goncharov wrote: > ,--- You/Robert (Thu, 29 Jan 2009 09:12:47 -0500) * > | Problem is, it isn't just the Xserver... All of the pieces are > | intertwined and so in many cases to update Xserver you also need to > | update some/several libraries as well as

Re: Call for testers: MythTV 0.21 port upgrade

2009-01-29 Thread Torfinn Ingolfsen
On Fri, 23 Jan 2009 12:26:41 +0100 usleepl...@gmail.com wrote: > I have compiled and installed trunk in the last weeks, and there was > hardly anything FreeBSD specific that needed to be adjusted. It Very interesting. Hopefully, that will help with porting 0.22 (whenever that will be released).

Re: xorg upgrade and /etc/ttys regression

2009-01-29 Thread Kent Stewart
On Thursday 29 January 2009 05:23:01 am Robert Noland wrote: > On Thu, 2009-01-29 at 10:55 +0100, Oliver Fromme wrote: > > Just to be clear ... Am I understanding things right that > > the new X server requires hald and dbus running? It won't > > work anymore without them? > > > > (That would be

Re: xorg upgrade and /etc/ttys regression

2009-01-29 Thread Robert Noland
On Thu, 2009-01-29 at 11:06 -0800, Kent Stewart wrote: > On Thursday 29 January 2009 05:23:01 am Robert Noland wrote: > > On Thu, 2009-01-29 at 10:55 +0100, Oliver Fromme wrote: > > > Just to be clear ... Am I understanding things right that > > > the new X server requires hald and dbus running?

boinc-client stop working with WCG

2009-01-29 Thread Dmitry Morozovsky
Dear Pav, could you please take a look at this thread? http://www.worldcommunitygrid.org/forums/wcg/viewthread?thread=24324&lastpage=yes Thank you. -- Sincerely, D.Marck [DM5020, MCK-RIPE, DM3-RIPN] [ FreeBSD committer: ma...@

Re: Unhappy Xorg upgrade

2009-01-29 Thread Stephen Clark
Dan Allen wrote: Thanks to Robert for pointing out a few things to me. I have run portupgrade -rf libxcb I normally run portupgrade -WrRpPa This is what I ran and it totally hosed my system. I had to revert back to an earlier version to be able to bring X back up. This should have compi

Re: Unhappy Xorg upgrade

2009-01-29 Thread Robert Noland
On Thu, 2009-01-29 at 16:45 -0500, Stephen Clark wrote: > Dan Allen wrote: > > Thanks to Robert for pointing out a few things to me. > > > > I have run > > > > portupgrade -rf libxcb > > > > I normally run portupgrade -WrRpPa > This is what I ran and it totally hosed my system. > I had to r

Re: Unhappy Xorg upgrade

2009-01-29 Thread Dan Allen
Thanks to Robert for pointing out a few things to me. I have run portupgrade -rf libxcb and it rebuilt quite a few pieces that had not been rebuilt in the standard portupgrade that gave me X.org 7.4 in the first place. After rebuilding firefox and a bunch of smaller libraries, my keyboa

The “Military, Industrial Complex” is no more -- The Hidden Massive Racial Discrimination in America against Whites

2009-01-29 Thread Lawrence Auster
The “Military, Industrial Complex” is no more. Today it is the Political, Financial and Media — Zionist Complex! 1/28/2009 An short essay by Dr. David Duke The “Military-Industrial complex” really has no relevance to the real holders of global power today. America is the most powerful military

Run-time auto-detection is harmful for packages

2009-01-29 Thread Boris Samorodov
Hello List, I'd like to be better safe than sorry, but... You know, things may happen. I prefer to use packages for installing/updating since there are at least five personal machines which I should take care of (at work, at home, my relatives, backups, etc.) and a bunch of servers at $dayjob. B

Re: Run-time auto-detection is harmful for packages

2009-01-29 Thread Jeremy Messenger
On Thu, 29 Jan 2009 16:40:27 -0600, Boris Samorodov wrote: Hello List, I'd like to be better safe than sorry, but... You know, things may happen. I prefer to use packages for installing/updating since there are at least five personal machines which I should take care of (at work, at home, my

FreeBSD Port: sks-1.1.0

2009-01-29 Thread Joseph Oreste Bruni
Greetings, I see that you are the maintainer of the SKS package within the FreeBSD ports tree. I was wondering if you could add one of the patches that is present in the SKS revision control repository but has not yet made its way into a release. The patch in question can be found here:

Re: Run-time auto-detection is harmful for packages

2009-01-29 Thread Boris Samorodov
"Jeremy Messenger" writes: > You already can do that. WITHOUT_GNOME=yes or WITHOUT_GNOME=esound. Thanks for the tip! >> 2. Create slave ports to build (non-default so far) packages for those >>who want to use packages and were unfortunate to install packages >>used for auto-detection by

Re: Run-time auto-detection is harmful for packages

2009-01-29 Thread Jeremy Messenger
On Thu, 29 Jan 2009 17:40:08 -0600, Boris Samorodov wrote: "Jeremy Messenger" writes: You already can do that. WITHOUT_GNOME=yes or WITHOUT_GNOME=esound. Thanks for the tip! 2. Create slave ports to build (non-default so far) packages for those who want to use packages and were unfort

Re: Run-time auto-detection is harmful for packages

2009-01-29 Thread Boris Samorodov
"Jeremy Messenger" writes: > On Thu, 29 Jan 2009 17:40:08 -0600, Boris Samorodov wrote: >> "Jeremy Messenger" writes: >> 2. Create slave ports to build (non-default so far) packages for those who want to use packages and were unfortunate to install packages used for auto-det

Re: FreeBSD Port: sks-1.1.0

2009-01-29 Thread Johan van Selst
Hi Joe, Joseph Oreste Bruni wrote: > I see that you are the maintainer of the SKS package within the FreeBSD > ports tree. I was wondering if you could add one of the patches that is > present in the SKS revision control repository but has not yet made its > way into a release. Thanks. I'll ad