On Thu, 2009-01-29 at 08:16 -0500, Stephen Clark wrote: > Alex Goncharov wrote: > > ,--- You/Bruce (Thu, 29 Jan 2009 12:06:45 +0000) ----* > > | One theory is that somehow the mouse driver ioctls which are passed > > | to ums, are somehow hosing USB, although why that would be, I don't > > | understand. ums currently doesn't have driver instrumentation in that > > path. > > | > > | I pulled a fairly detailed IRC log of my collaborative debugging > > | session with Robert, please ping me if you need details of this. > > `----------------------------------------------------* > > > > Thank you for the detailed write up! No help to me, though -- on my > > Latitude laptop, there was no problem with any mouse: USB or the > > built-in "pointing device". It was the keyboard -- and, trust me, I > > did try many variations of the machine configuration, and I did do a > > lot of reading on various relevant topics (writing, too, as you have > > seen :-() > > > > As I mentioned elsewhere, my way of resolving the problem after a > > one-and-a-half day's of struggle was to revert to the old X (on that > > laptop). > > > > On the topic of how this upgrade was introduced, I can't help but > > refer to my recent experience helping to fix TWM: > > > > ,--- Eeri Kask (Mon, 29 Sep 2008 12:21:17 +0200) ----* > > | > I have used the new version of TWM for five days, using it less > > | > intensively than usual. No problems in seen during my (light) use. > > | > > | Hello Alex, no problem at all! Improved solutions have priority over > > | promised deadlines. > > | > > | Thank you for your time helping to improve TWM, :-) > > | > > `----------------------------------------------------* > > > > Eeri Kask and I worked together all past September on fixing TWM > > crashes: I was willingly trying his multiple versions of the code, but > > I knew what I was risking, could choose convenient times for building > > and trying every new version (we tried about 30 of them) -- and I > > could always go back to the previous version (or the original TWM from > > ports). > > > > I would be happy to try a new X on my machines, if it were labeled as > > experimental, with an easy way to revert to the old X (while being in > > the testing stage). As it is, this upgrade brought a lot of problems > > to unsuspecting people, at the time they don't quite choose, with > > potential dangers not disclosed. > > > > In honesty, this upgrade should have been presented this way, way > > before the code was placed in the ports source tree: > > > > * We'll have a new X in ports soon -- there are multiple reports of > > problems with it on Linux. > > > > * We want to try it on FreeBSD -- but nobody is forcing you to do the > > upgrade. > > > > * If you, of your own free will, choose to upgrade, you may have > > hours and days of problems -- but heck, it was your choice. > > > > * If your problems cannot be fixed, you'll have to figure out > > something yourself. > > > > * If you choose not to upgrade, you are frozen with the pre-existing > > ports collection: there may be no automated ways to upgrade your > > packages, with the old X in place. Of course, you can somehow get > > pieces on new ports, unrelated to X. > > > > * The choice is totally yours. > > > > -- Alex -- alex-goncha...@comcast.net -- > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > freebsd-sta...@freebsd.org mailing list > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-stable-unsubscr...@freebsd.org" > > > On my system the matrox driver quit working, when I tried using the built in > via > the via driver wouldn't compile so when I tried X -configure it generated > a config using vesa, but when I tried to start X with the xorg.conf.new with > the vesa driver X said it couldn't find any screens. I finally had to revert > back to an older version. This should not happen on a stable system.
for Via hardware, you should be using openchrome. robert. > -- > > "They that give up essential liberty to obtain temporary safety, > deserve neither liberty nor safety." (Ben Franklin) > > "The course of history shows that as a government grows, liberty > decreases." (Thomas Jefferson) > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-sta...@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-stable-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
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