Re: Growing list of required(ish) ports

2013-04-09 Thread Robert Simmons
On Tue, Apr 9, 2013 at 1:11 PM, Florent Peterschmitt wrote: > Le mardi 09 avril 2013 à 13:03 -0400, Robert Simmons a écrit : >> > Hum, I didn't thought about that. So I think it would be possible to >> > have a secondary « branch » for the distribution including something >> > like « special ports

Re: Growing list of required(ish) ports

2013-04-09 Thread Florent Peterschmitt
Le mardi 09 avril 2013 à 13:03 -0400, Robert Simmons a écrit : > > Hum, I didn't thought about that. So I think it would be possible to > > have a secondary « branch » for the distribution including something > > like « special ports » which can be retrieved, built and managed (for > > porters) qui

Re: Growing list of required(ish) ports

2013-04-09 Thread Robert Simmons
On Tue, Apr 9, 2013 at 12:48 PM, Florent Peterschmitt wrote: > Le mardi 09 avril 2013 à 06:09 -0700, Darren Pilgrim a écrit : >> On 2013-04-08 10:22, Florent Peterschmitt wrote: >> > Yep, OpenSSH is tiny enought to keep it in base system. It would be a >> > big loss not to have it by default, secu

Re: Growing list of required(ish) ports

2013-04-09 Thread Florent Peterschmitt
Le mardi 09 avril 2013 à 06:09 -0700, Darren Pilgrim a écrit : > On 2013-04-08 10:22, Florent Peterschmitt wrote: > > Yep, OpenSSH is tiny enought to keep it in base system. It would be a > > big loss not to have it by default, securely installed in the base > > system. > > I really wish it wasn't

Re: Growing list of required(ish) ports

2013-04-09 Thread Sam Fourman Jr.
> Ports are an integral part of the OS, and base should be minimal. > > > > For me, the only thing that should go to base is svnup. > > > +1 this, it is a real headache to not be able to svn up, without first installing a bunch of stuff via ports... I Love the idea of having a minimal system... i

Re: Growing list of required(ish) ports

2013-04-09 Thread Daniel Nebdal
On Tue, Apr 9, 2013 at 3:09 PM, Darren Pilgrim wrote: > On 2013-04-08 10:22, Florent Peterschmitt wrote: >> >> Yep, OpenSSH is tiny enought to keep it in base system. It would be a >> big loss not to have it by default, securely installed in the base >> system. > > > I really wish it wasn't. Havi

Re: Growing list of required(ish) ports

2013-04-09 Thread Darren Pilgrim
On 2013-04-08 10:22, Florent Peterschmitt wrote: Yep, OpenSSH is tiny enought to keep it in base system. It would be a big loss not to have it by default, securely installed in the base system. I really wish it wasn't. Having OpenSSH (and thus OpenSSL) in the base means FreeBSD has an outdate

Re: Growing list of required(ish) ports

2013-04-09 Thread Darren Pilgrim
On 2013-04-08 08:26, Freddie Cash wrote: The really hard part is coming up with a migration path for those who upgrade via source builds. It already exists: 1. Update to release that doesn't include $thing; 2. make -C /usr/src delete-old delete-old-libs; 3. Install $thing or $thing_alternative

Re: Growing list of required(ish) ports

2013-04-08 Thread David Demelier
2013/4/8 Chris Rees : > On 8 Apr 2013 08:55, "Robert Simmons" wrote: >> >> On Mon, Apr 8, 2013 at 1:11 AM, Kevin Oberman wrote: >> > On Sun, Apr 7, 2013 at 8:34 PM, Kimmo Paasiala > wrote: >> >> >> >> On Mon, Apr 8, 2013 at 6:19 AM, Robert Simmons >> >> wrote: >> >> > On Sun, Apr 7, 2013 at 10:

Re: Growing list of required(ish) ports

2013-04-08 Thread Florent Peterschmitt
Le lundi 08 avril 2013 à 17:40 +0200, Daniel Nebdal a écrit : > On Mon, Apr 8, 2013 at 5:26 PM, Freddie Cash wrote: > > Note: I may have messed up the quoting/attribution by snipping things. > > > > On Sun, Apr 7, 2013 at 10:11 PM, Kevin Oberman wrote: > > > >> On Sun, Apr 7, 2013 at 8:34 PM, Ki

Re: Growing list of required(ish) ports

2013-04-08 Thread Daniel Nebdal
On Mon, Apr 8, 2013 at 5:26 PM, Freddie Cash wrote: > Note: I may have messed up the quoting/attribution by snipping things. > > On Sun, Apr 7, 2013 at 10:11 PM, Kevin Oberman wrote: > >> On Sun, Apr 7, 2013 at 8:34 PM, Kimmo Paasiala wrote: >> >> > > On the other hand, there are a number of th

Re: Growing list of required(ish) ports

2013-04-08 Thread Freddie Cash
Note: I may have messed up the quoting/attribution by snipping things. On Sun, Apr 7, 2013 at 10:11 PM, Kevin Oberman wrote: > On Sun, Apr 7, 2013 at 8:34 PM, Kimmo Paasiala wrote: > > > > On the other hand, there are a number of things that I think should be > > > pulled out of base. Some al

Re: Growing list of required(ish) ports

2013-04-08 Thread Freddie Cash
On Sun, Apr 7, 2013 at 6:47 PM, Robert Simmons wrote: > Are there plans to get the following ports moved into HEAD? > > 1) ports-mgmt/pkg > > The bootstrap code is in base. There's no need to tie the actual pkg development to the base, though. > 2) ports-mgmt/dialog4ports > > This is used by t

Re: Growing list of required(ish) ports

2013-04-08 Thread Bryan Drewery
On 4/8/2013 2:57 AM, Michael Gmelin wrote: > On Mon, 8 Apr 2013 09:31:50 +0200 > David Demelier wrote: > >> >> For me I also wanted pkg to be in base but they made a bootstrap that >> does not need any other requirement so I stick with that and I'm >> happy. >> > > Last time I checked the bootst

Re: Growing list of required(ish) ports

2013-04-08 Thread Bryan Drewery
On 4/8/2013 1:55 AM, Robert Simmons wrote: > On Mon, Apr 8, 2013 at 1:11 AM, Kevin Oberman wrote: >> On Sun, Apr 7, 2013 at 8:34 PM, Kimmo Paasiala wrote: >>> >>> On Mon, Apr 8, 2013 at 6:19 AM, Robert Simmons >>> wrote: On Sun, Apr 7, 2013 at 10:45 PM, Bryan Drewery wrote: > On 4

Re: Growing list of required(ish) ports

2013-04-08 Thread Chris Rees
On 8 Apr 2013 08:55, "Robert Simmons" wrote: > > On Mon, Apr 8, 2013 at 1:11 AM, Kevin Oberman wrote: > > On Sun, Apr 7, 2013 at 8:34 PM, Kimmo Paasiala wrote: > >> > >> On Mon, Apr 8, 2013 at 6:19 AM, Robert Simmons > >> wrote: > >> > On Sun, Apr 7, 2013 at 10:45 PM, Bryan Drewery > >> > wrot

Re: Growing list of required(ish) ports

2013-04-08 Thread Michael Gmelin
> check it now, AFAIK now it is lattest Looks like it (1.0.11). Thanks. -- Michael Gmelin ___ freebsd-ports@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ports To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-ports-unsubscr...@fr

Re: Growing list of required(ish) ports

2013-04-08 Thread Michael Gmelin
On Mon, 8 Apr 2013 11:05:31 +0300 Kimmo Paasiala wrote: > > The outdated version is simple to update, that's the whole point of it > staying in ports. > > -Kimmo I understand this, but it should be easy enough to make the bootstrapping mechanism install the current version (otherwise you could

Re: Growing list of required(ish) ports

2013-04-08 Thread Sergey V. Dyatko
On Mon, 8 Apr 2013 09:57:02 +0200 Michael Gmelin wrote: > On Mon, 8 Apr 2013 09:31:50 +0200 > David Demelier wrote: > > > > > For me I also wanted pkg to be in base but they made a bootstrap > > that does not need any other requirement so I stick with that and > > I'm happy. > > > > Last tim

Re: Growing list of required(ish) ports

2013-04-08 Thread Kimmo Paasiala
On Mon, Apr 8, 2013 at 10:57 AM, Michael Gmelin wrote: > On Mon, 8 Apr 2013 09:31:50 +0200 > David Demelier wrote: > >> >> For me I also wanted pkg to be in base but they made a bootstrap that >> does not need any other requirement so I stick with that and I'm >> happy. >> > > Last time I checked

Re: Growing list of required(ish) ports

2013-04-08 Thread Michael Gmelin
On Mon, 8 Apr 2013 09:31:50 +0200 David Demelier wrote: > > For me I also wanted pkg to be in base but they made a bootstrap that > does not need any other requirement so I stick with that and I'm > happy. > Last time I checked the bootstrapping mechanism installed an outdated version of pkg (

Re: Growing list of required(ish) ports

2013-04-08 Thread David Demelier
2013/4/8 Kevin Oberman : > On Sun, Apr 7, 2013 at 8:34 PM, Kimmo Paasiala wrote: > >> On Mon, Apr 8, 2013 at 6:19 AM, Robert Simmons >> wrote: >> > On Sun, Apr 7, 2013 at 10:45 PM, Bryan Drewery >> wrote: >> >> On 4/7/2013 8:47 PM, Robert Simmons wrote: >> >>> Are there plans to get the followin

Re: Growing list of required(ish) ports

2013-04-07 Thread Robert Simmons
On Mon, Apr 8, 2013 at 1:11 AM, Kevin Oberman wrote: > On Sun, Apr 7, 2013 at 8:34 PM, Kimmo Paasiala wrote: >> >> On Mon, Apr 8, 2013 at 6:19 AM, Robert Simmons >> wrote: >> > On Sun, Apr 7, 2013 at 10:45 PM, Bryan Drewery >> > wrote: >> >> On 4/7/2013 8:47 PM, Robert Simmons wrote: >> >>> Are

Re: Growing list of required(ish) ports

2013-04-07 Thread Kevin Oberman
On Sun, Apr 7, 2013 at 8:34 PM, Kimmo Paasiala wrote: > On Mon, Apr 8, 2013 at 6:19 AM, Robert Simmons > wrote: > > On Sun, Apr 7, 2013 at 10:45 PM, Bryan Drewery > wrote: > >> On 4/7/2013 8:47 PM, Robert Simmons wrote: > >>> Are there plans to get the following ports moved into HEAD? > >>> > >

Re: Growing list of required(ish) ports

2013-04-07 Thread Kimmo Paasiala
On Mon, Apr 8, 2013 at 6:19 AM, Robert Simmons wrote: > On Sun, Apr 7, 2013 at 10:45 PM, Bryan Drewery wrote: >> On 4/7/2013 8:47 PM, Robert Simmons wrote: >>> Are there plans to get the following ports moved into HEAD? >>> >>> 1) ports-mgmt/pkg >>> >>> 2) ports-mgmt/dialog4ports >>> >>> 3) ports

Re: Growing list of required(ish) ports

2013-04-07 Thread Robert Simmons
On Sun, Apr 7, 2013 at 10:45 PM, Bryan Drewery wrote: > On 4/7/2013 8:47 PM, Robert Simmons wrote: >> Are there plans to get the following ports moved into HEAD? >> >> 1) ports-mgmt/pkg >> >> 2) ports-mgmt/dialog4ports >> >> 3) ports-mgmt/portaudit >> >> 4) ports-mgmt/portmaster >> >> It seems to

Re: Growing list of required(ish) ports

2013-04-07 Thread Bryan Drewery
On 4/7/2013 8:47 PM, Robert Simmons wrote: > Are there plans to get the following ports moved into HEAD? > > 1) ports-mgmt/pkg > > 2) ports-mgmt/dialog4ports > > 3) ports-mgmt/portaudit > > 4) ports-mgmt/portmaster > > It seems to me like these belong in the base system. On the contrary, the

Growing list of required(ish) ports

2013-04-07 Thread Robert Simmons
Are there plans to get the following ports moved into HEAD? 1) ports-mgmt/pkg 2) ports-mgmt/dialog4ports 3) ports-mgmt/portaudit 4) ports-mgmt/portmaster It seems to me like these belong in the base system. Also, is there a reason why dialog4ports's functionality wasn't added to dialog(1) as