Re: Upgrading FreeBSD to use the NEW pf syntax.

2012-12-21 Thread Maxim Khitrov
On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 10:00 AM, Gleb Smirnoff wrote: > Paul, > > On Sat, Nov 24, 2012 at 02:11:32PM -, Paul Webster wrote: > P> I only really need one question answered in honesty; > P> > P> I personally think that by forking our own version of PF we have > P> essentially made something to

Re: Upgrading FreeBSD to use the NEW pf syntax.

2012-11-29 Thread Fleuriot Damien
On Nov 20, 2012, at 7:46 AM, Odhiambo Washington wrote: > On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 5:23 AM, Paul Webster > wrote: > >> Good day all, >> >> I am aware this is a much discussed subject since the upgrade of PF, I >> believe the final decision was that to many users are used to the old >> style pf

Re: Upgrading FreeBSD to use the NEW pf syntax.

2012-11-23 Thread Ermal Luçi
On Fri, Nov 23, 2012 at 8:50 AM, Ian FREISLICH wrote: > > > Today its a null op. So it voids the keyword which should be > deprecated in > > > FreeBSD or should be reintroduced! > > > Also it may break people assumptions on it. > > > > So I take it that "set state-policy if-bound" will no longer

Re: Upgrading FreeBSD to use the NEW pf syntax.

2012-11-22 Thread Ian FREISLICH
> > Today its a null op. So it voids the keyword which should be deprecated in > > FreeBSD or should be reintroduced! > > Also it may break people assumptions on it. > > So I take it that "set state-policy if-bound" will no longer have any > effect either? Is this expected to hit 10.0-RELEASE? >

Re: Upgrading FreeBSD to use the NEW pf syntax.

2012-11-22 Thread Maxim Khitrov
On Thu, Nov 22, 2012 at 10:00 AM, Ermal Luçi wrote: > On Thu, Nov 22, 2012 at 3:13 PM, Ian FREISLICH wrote: > >> =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Ermal_Lu=E7i?= wrote: >> > On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 9:07 AM, Sami Halabi wrote: >> > > This was actually discussed much before, as I read it would make some >> > > issue

Re: Upgrading FreeBSD to use the NEW pf syntax.

2012-11-22 Thread Ermal Luçi
On Thu, Nov 22, 2012 at 3:13 PM, Ian FREISLICH wrote: > =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Ermal_Lu=E7i?= wrote: > > On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 9:07 AM, Sami Halabi wrote: > > > This was actually discussed much before, as I read it would make some > > > issues with the new pf-smp work done by gleb. > > > > > Not reall

Re: Upgrading FreeBSD to use the NEW pf syntax.

2012-11-22 Thread Ermal Luçi
On Thu, Nov 22, 2012 at 3:13 PM, Ian FREISLICH wrote: > =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Ermal_Lu=E7i?= wrote: > > On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 9:07 AM, Sami Halabi wrote: > > > This was actually discussed much before, as I read it would make some > > > issues with the new pf-smp work done by gleb. > > > > > Not reall

Re: Upgrading FreeBSD to use the NEW pf syntax.

2012-11-22 Thread Ian FREISLICH
=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Ermal_Lu=E7i?= wrote: > On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 9:07 AM, Sami Halabi wrote: > > This was actually discussed much before, as I read it would make some > > issues with the new pf-smp work done by gleb. > > > Not really since Gleb just changed the locking and nothing else. > All his wo

Re: Upgrading FreeBSD to use the NEW pf syntax.

2012-11-21 Thread Adrian Minta
How about renaming freebsd pf to something else, like fpf or pff for instance ? -- Best regards, Adrian Minta ___ freebsd-pf@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-pf To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-pf-un

Re: Upgrading FreeBSD to use the NEW pf syntax.

2012-11-21 Thread Ermal Luçi
On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 3:52 PM, Gleb Smirnoff wrote: > On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 03:44:13PM +0100, Ermal Lu?i wrote: > E> Cherry-picking would be when tehre is reasonable similarities. > E> Also another argument to do this would be simplicity on locking as well > as > E> i told you when you starte

Re: Upgrading FreeBSD to use the NEW pf syntax.

2012-11-21 Thread Gleb Smirnoff
On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 03:44:13PM +0100, Ermal Lu?i wrote: E> Cherry-picking would be when tehre is reasonable similarities. E> Also another argument to do this would be simplicity on locking as well as E> i told you when you started the changes. You were wrong. OpenBSD doesn't move towards SMP m

Re: Upgrading FreeBSD to use the NEW pf syntax.

2012-11-21 Thread Ermal Luçi
On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 8:56 AM, Gleb Smirnoff wrote: > Mark, > > On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 03:43:17PM +0100, Mark Martinec wrote: > M> For one thing, I'm desperately awaiting NAT64 support (the 'af-to' > M> translation rule in newer pf (5.1?), committed on 2011-10). > > Backport this exact featu

Re: Upgrading FreeBSD to use the NEW pf syntax.

2012-11-20 Thread Gleb Smirnoff
Mark, On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 03:43:17PM +0100, Mark Martinec wrote: M> For one thing, I'm desperately awaiting NAT64 support (the 'af-to' M> translation rule in newer pf (5.1?), committed on 2011-10). Backport this exact feature to FreeBSD and send patch. M> Other: packet normalization (scrub

Re: Upgrading FreeBSD to use the NEW pf syntax.

2012-11-20 Thread Kevin Wilcox
On Nov 20, 2012 9:44 AM, "Mark Martinec" wrote: > > Paul Webster wrote: > > I am aware this is a much discussed subject since the upgrade of PF, > > I believe the final decision was that too many users are used to the old > > style pf and an upgrade to the new syntax would cause too much confusion

Re: Upgrading FreeBSD to use the NEW pf syntax.

2012-11-20 Thread Ermal Luçi
On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 9:07 AM, Sami Halabi wrote: > Hi, > This was actually discussed much before, as I read it would make some > issues with the new pf-smp work done by gleb. > > Not really since Gleb just changed the locking and nothing else. All his work is under the hood. He actually broke

Re: Upgrading FreeBSD to use the NEW pf syntax.

2012-11-20 Thread Mark Martinec
Paul Webster wrote: > I am aware this is a much discussed subject since the upgrade of PF, > I believe the final decision was that too many users are used to the old > style pf and an upgrade to the new syntax would cause too much confusion. I don't buy that. Think of a confusion in a year of two

Re: Upgrading FreeBSD to use the NEW pf syntax.

2012-11-20 Thread Sami Halabi
Hi, This was actually discussed much before, as I read it would make some issues with the new pf-smp work done by gleb. Sami On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 9:55 AM, Ermal Luçi wrote: > On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 7:46 AM, Odhiambo Washington >wrote: > > > On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 5:23 AM, Paul Webster <

Re: Upgrading FreeBSD to use the NEW pf syntax.

2012-11-19 Thread Ermal Luçi
On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 7:46 AM, Odhiambo Washington wrote: > On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 5:23 AM, Paul Webster < > paul.g.webs...@googlemail.com > > wrote: > > > Good day all, > > > > I am aware this is a much discussed subject since the upgrade of PF, I > > believe the final decision was that to man

Re: Upgrading FreeBSD to use the NEW pf syntax.

2012-11-19 Thread Odhiambo Washington
On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 5:23 AM, Paul Webster wrote: > Good day all, > > I am aware this is a much discussed subject since the upgrade of PF, I > believe the final decision was that to many users are used to the old > style pf and an upgrade to the new syntax would cause to much confusion. > > Th

Re: Upgrading FreeBSD to use the NEW pf syntax.

2012-11-19 Thread Peter Jeremy
On 2012-Nov-20 02:23:07 -, Paul Webster wrote: >I am aware this is a much discussed subject since the upgrade of PF, I >believe the final decision was that to many users are used to the old >style pf and an upgrade to the new syntax would cause to much confusion. FreeBSD deprecation policies

Re: Upgrading FreeBSD to use the NEW pf syntax.

2012-11-19 Thread Paul Webster
Just out of interest, option 3) does not entirely dismiss using the pf2-* chain of kernel options for developing using the new pf tree; sure it would be alot of work but just 'how much' would be required; Our own fork after all means that everything is created from scratch and as its 'vastly

Re: Upgrading FreeBSD to use the NEW pf syntax.

2012-11-19 Thread Paul Webster
I am not so sure there would be much more maintenance, after all after the split the only updates to the original 'pf-*' tree would be any serious security or stability updates that happen to crop up. All feature updates etc would be to the pf2-* On Tue, 20 Nov 2012 02:52:53 -, Maxim Khi

Re: Upgrading FreeBSD to use the NEW pf syntax.

2012-11-19 Thread Maxim Khitrov
On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 9:23 PM, Paul Webster wrote: > Good day all, > > I am aware this is a much discussed subject since the upgrade of PF, I > believe the final decision was that to many users are used to the old > style pf and an upgrade to the new syntax would cause to much confusion. > > The