Re: support of iso networking

2003-02-21 Thread Wes Peters
On Wednesday 19 February 2003 01:23 pm, Joseph T. Klein wrote: > > On Wednesday, February 19, 2003, at 03:13 PM, Garrett Wollman wrote: > > < > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > >> Has anyone done work to incorporate the ISO networking code > >> into FreeBSD? This has been done for NetBSD. It is a r

Re: support of iso networking

2003-02-19 Thread Jeffrey Hsu
> I have been looking on this delta. I had been stuck on the handlers of the > "user requests" ( xxx_usrreq() ) that are deeply different between NetBSD > and FreeBSD. The old pr_usrreq routine used to be a big switch statement on the second parameter, the request type. Now, each case is a

Re: support of iso networking

2003-02-19 Thread Vincent Jardin
Le Jeudi 20 Février 2003 00:00, Joseph T. Klein a écrit : > So how great a delta exists between NetBSD and FreeBSD? > Can't the NetBSD code be used as a starting point? I have been looking on this delta. I had been stuck on the handlers of the "user requests" ( xxx_usrreq() ) that are deeply diff

Re: support of iso networking

2003-02-19 Thread Joseph T. Klein
So how great a delta exists between NetBSD and FreeBSD? Can't the NetBSD code be used as a starting point? Any written guidelines on how interface at the kernel? Am I just stuck picking through the net* code? BTW - The corporate IS guys run adelphia.com. They don't listen to us. We just work here

Re: support of iso networking

2003-02-19 Thread Bakul Shah
> Any company which is going to have to modify an operating system to run > on their routers who ignores an operating system with a reputable network > stack merely because it lacks in-tree support for a particular protocol > isn't worth hte money. I am afraid it is not that simple. By using as m

Re: support of iso networking

2003-02-19 Thread Garrett Wollman
< said: > What is involved? A huge amount of work: converting the ancient netiso code to use modern kernel programming interfaces, figuring out MP/MT locking, adding the netiso support back to the protocol-independent parts of the kernel, fixing all the warnings, translating all of the anti-DoS c

Re: support of iso networking

2003-02-19 Thread Joseph T. Klein
What is involved? On Wednesday, February 19, 2003, at 04:28 PM, Garrett Wollman wrote: < said: On the other hand the NetBSD folks don't see it as dead weight Are you volunteering to do all the work (or pay someone else to do so)? -GAWollman -- Joseph T. Klein Senior Network Engineer/Pee

Re: support of iso networking

2003-02-19 Thread Garrett Wollman
< said: > On the other hand the NetBSD folks don't see it as dead weight Are you volunteering to do all the work (or pay someone else to do so)? -GAWollman To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-net" in the body of the message

Re: support of iso networking

2003-02-19 Thread Juli Mallett
* De: Petri Helenius <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [ Data: 2003-02-19 ] [ Subjecte: Re: support of iso networking ] > > On the other hand the NetBSD folks don't see it as dead weight > > and systems that may need to talk with core routers that use > > IS

Re: support of iso networking

2003-02-19 Thread Petri Helenius
> On the other hand the NetBSD folks don't see it as dead weight > and systems that may need to talk with core routers that use > IS-IS end up on other platforms. > > Perhaps this is why Arbor uses NetBSD. > It should be noted that hardly anything qualifies as "dead weight" on operating system t

Re: support of iso networking

2003-02-19 Thread Joseph T. Klein
On the other hand the NetBSD folks don't see it as dead weight and systems that may need to talk with core routers that use IS-IS end up on other platforms. Perhaps this is why Arbor uses NetBSD. On Wednesday, February 19, 2003, at 03:13 PM, Garrett Wollman wrote: < said: Has anyone done work

support of iso networking

2003-02-19 Thread Garrett Wollman
< said: > Has anyone done work to incorporate the ISO networking code > into FreeBSD? This has been done for NetBSD. It is a required > component if one wishes to natively support ISO based protocols > such as IS-IS. For the limited value that OSI protocols have today, it is a much better use of

Re: support of iso networking

2003-02-19 Thread Max Khon
hi, there! On Wed, Feb 19, 2003 at 08:35:31AM +0100, Vincent Jardin wrote: > > > I looked at isisd patches for zebra and it seems that they use > > > bpf even on NetBSD. Do you know any other netiso consumers? > > > > btw I have made patches for zebra port that add WITH_ISISD knob. > > Anybody ou

Re: support of iso networking

2003-02-18 Thread Terry Lambert
Max Khon wrote: > are you talking about src/sys/netiso/ code? > it has been there but was removed about 7 years ago because nobody wanted to > maintain it. You can take a look at it via cvsweb. This is substantially incorrect. The code was working fine, until FreeBSD's routing code was changed ou

Re: support of iso networking

2003-02-18 Thread Vincent Jardin
> > > > I looked at isisd patches for zebra and it seems that they use > > bpf even on NetBSD. Do you know any other netiso consumers? > > btw I have made patches for zebra port that add WITH_ISISD knob. > Anybody out there willing to test? Does your patch use the AF_ISO sockets on NetBSD or does

Re: support of iso networking

2003-02-18 Thread Max Khon
hi, there! On Wed, Feb 19, 2003 at 05:16:17AM +0600, Max Khon wrote: > > I would encourage you all to get this working. Looking at the NetBSD > > CVS it looks pretty stable. > > > > So does Juniper hack this in when they build JunOS? > > > > http://cvsweb.netbsd.org/bsdweb.cgi/~checkout~/src/s

Re: support of iso networking

2003-02-18 Thread Max Khon
hi, there! On Tue, Feb 18, 2003 at 03:57:26PM -0600, Joseph T. Klein wrote: > I would encourage you all to get this working. Looking at the NetBSD > CVS it looks pretty stable. > > So does Juniper hack this in when they build JunOS? > > http://cvsweb.netbsd.org/bsdweb.cgi/~checkout~/src/sys/net

Re: support of iso networking

2003-02-18 Thread Joseph T. Klein
I would encourage you all to get this working. Looking at the NetBSD CVS it looks pretty stable. So does Juniper hack this in when they build JunOS? http://cvsweb.netbsd.org/bsdweb.cgi/~checkout~/src/sys/netiso/ README?rev=1.1.16.1&content-type=text/plain "In case you were wondering why this co

Re: support of iso networking

2003-02-18 Thread Max Khon
hi, there! On Tue, Feb 18, 2003 at 10:09:44PM +0100, Vincent Jardin wrote: > > are you talking about src/sys/netiso/ code? > > it has been there but was removed about 7 years ago because nobody wanted > > to maintain it. You can take a look at it via cvsweb. > > Now it is not possible to use eas

Re: support of iso networking

2003-02-18 Thread Vincent Jardin
> > are you talking about src/sys/netiso/ code? > it has been there but was removed about 7 years ago because nobody wanted > to maintain it. You can take a look at it via cvsweb. Now it is not possible to use easily an ISIS routing protocol with FreeBSD ;-( For example, the Zebra's isisd is usin

Re: support of iso networking

2003-02-18 Thread Max Khon
hi, there! On Tue, Feb 18, 2003 at 09:40:58AM -0600, Joseph T. Klein wrote: > Has anyone done work to incorporate the ISO networking code > into FreeBSD? This has been done for NetBSD. It is a required > component if one wishes to natively support ISO based protocols > such as IS-IS. > > I ask b

support of iso networking

2003-02-18 Thread Joseph T. Klein
Has anyone done work to incorporate the ISO networking code into FreeBSD? This has been done for NetBSD. It is a required component if one wishes to natively support ISO based protocols such as IS-IS. I ask because a few networks, including mine, use FreeBSD systems for monitoring. Since we are an