RE: Looking for switch recommendations ...

2004-03-31 Thread Chance Whaley
> -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Wes Peters > Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2004 3:06 PM > To: Steven Stremciuc; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: Looking for switch recommendations ... > > > Every swit

Re: Looking for switch recommendations ...

2004-03-30 Thread Steven Stremciuc
Wes Peters wrote: Info about the 3348's problems: http://forums.us.dell.com/supportforums/board/message?board.id=pc_managed&message.id=1425 The guy who posted the message in the Dell forum you linked above sounds like he has no idea what he's doing. It's not possible to use a switch port mirro

Re: Looking for switch recommendations ...

2004-03-30 Thread Wes Peters
On Sunday 28 March 2004 11:37 pm, Steven Stremciuc wrote: > Has anyone tested port mirroring on these switches (2524) and run into > any problems? Many people seem to recommend these ProCurve switches here > and so far they seem like a great buy (only one I saw that cheap that > does 802.1x). I'm a

Re: Looking for switch recommendations ...

2004-03-28 Thread Steven Stremciuc
Has anyone tested port mirroring on these switches (2524) and run into any problems? Many people seem to recommend these ProCurve switches here and so far they seem like a great buy (only one I saw that cheap that does 802.1x). I'm also looking for a managed switch (probably something off ebay)

RE: Looking for switch recommendations ...

2004-03-28 Thread Gunnarsson, Mikael
You don't mention if you need gigabit speeds on all ports, so I'll assume you don't. The HP ProCurve 2524 (or 2512 if you really only want 12 ports, but the price difference is minimal) is a very nice and stable switch. We have about 95-100 2524 switches on the access level here, and I am yet t

Re: Looking for switch recommendations ...

2004-03-27 Thread Bruce M Simpson
On Fri, Mar 26, 2004 at 02:19:37PM -0800, Wes Peters wrote: > bit. The HP ProCurves perform well and are reliable and (relatively) > cheap. And indeed, the infrastructure for most of the off-shore data-haven HavenCo on the Principality of Sealand was built on ProCurve switches. Not only are the

Re: Looking for switch recommendations ...

2004-03-27 Thread Anthony Anderberg
I just finished evaluating a large number of switches for work and can share my thoughts, although we're still in price negotiations so it'd be unethical to make recommendations. We use Nortel BayStack 350s and Passport 8600s today, and will be buying almost 400 switches of various kinds ov

Re: Looking for switch recommendations ...

2004-03-26 Thread Brooks Davis
On Fri, Mar 26, 2004 at 12:05:10PM -0400, Marc G. Fournier wrote: > > I'm looking at replacing my el'cheapo switch with something better that > will allow me to fix my issues with the em/full-duplex problem ... > > I'm looking for ssomething managed, as well as SNMP aware so that I can > tie it i

Re: Looking for switch recommendations ...

2004-03-26 Thread Luigi Rizzo
On Fri, Mar 26, 2004 at 02:25:34PM -0800, Wes Peters wrote: ... > In the Xylan (now Alcatel) second-generation switches (The "X-Frame" > backplane) the switching hardward was capable of switching on the MAC > header *or* other predefined parts of the packet if no MAC header matches > were found.

Re: Looking for switch recommendations ...

2004-03-26 Thread Wes Peters
On Friday 26 March 2004 11:25 am, Per Engelbrecht wrote: > > What is the difference between Layer2 and Layer3, and what does > > that affect? > > All switching is done in layer2! Not true! > Layer3 switch 'features' (functionality) is was the vendor put in the > box. Depending on the amount of $

Re: Looking for switch recommendations ...

2004-03-26 Thread Wes Peters
On Friday 26 March 2004 11:08 am, Bakul Shah wrote: > > What is the difference between Layer2 and Layer3, and what does that > > affect? > > Layer3 == routing (based on IP destination address) > Layer2 == switching (based on enet dest. address) > > Layer3 is probably not important for you. That de

Re: Looking for switch recommendations ...

2004-03-26 Thread Petri Helenius
Luigi Rizzo wrote: for that you need to go to the RTL8326, yes. Still very cheap, I think managed units based on this one sell around $250. Anyways the point was, there is no CPU doing the forwarding or stats handling. Do you know if this has a fan? I´ve been looking for managed L2 devices w

Re: Looking for switch recommendations ...

2004-03-26 Thread Luigi Rizzo
On Fri, Mar 26, 2004 at 11:05:05PM +0200, Petri Helenius wrote: > Luigi Rizzo wrote: > > > > >a switch (Edimax) based on the 8316 costs here 60 euro incl.VAT > >and does 16 ports full duplex at full wire speed on all ports. > > > > > > > > > But no counters and no management. for that you

Re: Looking for switch recommendations ...

2004-03-26 Thread Petri Helenius
Luigi Rizzo wrote: a switch (Edimax) based on the 8316 costs here 60 euro incl.VAT and does 16 ports full duplex at full wire speed on all ports. But no counters and no management. Pete ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/m

Re: Looking for switch recommendations ...

2004-03-26 Thread Luigi Rizzo
On Fri, Mar 26, 2004 at 04:25:55PM -0400, Marc G. Fournier wrote: > On Fri, 26 Mar 2004, Bakul Shah wrote: > > > For 100Mbps ports, the max packet rate in one direction is 10^8/672 == > > 148809 pps (packets per sec) per port. So for 24 port full duplex ports > > you get an aggregate maximum thro

Re: Looking for switch recommendations ...

2004-03-26 Thread Bakul Shah
> > For 100Mbps ports, the max packet rate in one direction is 10^8/672 == > > 148809 pps (packets per sec) per port. So for 24 port full duplex ports > > you get an aggregate maximum throughput of 148809*24*2 = 7738068 = > > 7.14Mpps (Million pps). For a 48 port switch it is 14.29Mpps. > > so, t

Re: Looking for switch recommendations ...

2004-03-26 Thread Marc G. Fournier
On Fri, 26 Mar 2004, Bakul Shah wrote: > For 100Mbps ports, the max packet rate in one direction is 10^8/672 == > 148809 pps (packets per sec) per port. So for 24 port full duplex ports > you get an aggregate maximum throughput of 148809*24*2 = 7738068 = > 7.14Mpps (Million pps). For a 48 port sw

Re: Looking for switch recommendations ...

2004-03-26 Thread Per Engelbrecht
Hi again > > One thing I hate about comparison shopping for computers ... there > are so many options :( - what are your needs vs. $, kinda answers this. > > What is the difference between Layer2 and Layer3, and what does > that affect? All switching is done in layer2! Layer3 switch 'featur

Re: Looking for switch recommendations ...

2004-03-26 Thread Bakul Shah
> What is the difference between Layer2 and Layer3, and what does that > affect? Layer3 == routing (based on IP destination address) Layer2 == switching (based on enet dest. address) Layer3 is probably not important for you. > HP: > Throughput: 2650 - 10.1 mpps (64-byte packets) 2626 - 6.6 mpps

RE: Looking for switch recommendations ...

2004-03-26 Thread Don Bowman
From: Marc G. Fournier [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > One thing I hate about comparison shopping for computers ... there are > so many options :( > > What is the difference between Layer2 and Layer3, and what does that > affect? > > I see the HP Procurve 2626 (I don't need 50 ports yet) for > ~

Re: Looking for switch recommendations ...

2004-03-26 Thread Garrett Wollman
< said: > What is the difference between Layer2 and Layer3, and what does that > affect? "Layer 2 switch" is a fancy name for a bridge. "Layer 3 switch" is a fancy name for a router. -GAWollman ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.

Re: Looking for switch recommendations ...

2004-03-26 Thread Chuck Swiger
Marc G. Fournier wrote: I'm looking for ssomething managed, as well as SNMP aware so that I can tie it into Zabbix for monitoring ... something 8 or 12 port preferred. The 3com SuperStack 2 line is being replaced by the SS3 (which have gigabit uplinks) so the older models are priced to clear out;

Re: Looking for switch recommendations ...

2004-03-26 Thread Marc G. Fournier
One thing I hate about comparison shopping for computers ... there are so many options :( What is the difference between Layer2 and Layer3, and what does that affect? I see the HP Procurve 2626 (I don't need 50 ports yet) for ~$600 on the web ... while I can pick up the Dell PowerConnect 332

Re: Looking for switch recommendations ...

2004-03-26 Thread Per Engelbrecht
Hi, Don't know your budget, but HP Procurve 2650 (layer2/layer3 hybrid) works just fine. Full managed, snmp et al. respectfully /per [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > I'm looking at replacing my el'cheapo switch with something better > that will allow me to fix my issues with the em/full-duplex problem > ..

Re: Looking for switch recommendations ...

2004-03-26 Thread Bill Vermillion
"Bits dont fail me now!" was what Marc G. Fournier muttered as he hastily typed this on Fri, Mar 26, 2004 at 12:05 : > I'm looking at replacing my el'cheapo switch with something > better that will allow me to fix my issues with the > em/full-duplex problem ... > I'm looking for ssomething manag