Re: strange results with increased net.inet.ip.intr_queue_maxlen(solved)

2001-10-15 Thread Archie Cobbs
Mike Tancsa writes: > At 08:44 PM 10/15/2001 -0700, Archie Cobbs wrote: > >This makes sense.. and that's is exactly what queues are for: > >absorbing bursts. If you have big bursts then you'll need big > >queues.. in general this is the only reason to have them. > > The only mystery I didnt solve

Re: strange results with increased net.inet.ip.intr_queue_maxlen (solved)

2001-10-15 Thread Mike Tancsa
At 08:44 PM 10/15/2001 -0700, Archie Cobbs wrote: >This makes sense.. and that's is exactly what queues are for: >absorbing bursts. If you have big bursts then you'll need big >queues.. in general this is the only reason to have them. The only mystery I didnt solve in the end was what was genera

Re: strange results with increased net.inet.ip.intr_queue_maxlen (solved)

2001-10-15 Thread Archie Cobbs
Mike Tancsa writes: > >> Is it better for the networking layer to deal with this (potentially > >> introducing some latency) as opposed to letting the application ? > > > >But no, the network should just do "best effort".. that is, unless > >you are a telco type in which case, go back to your X.2

Re: strange results with increased net.inet.ip.intr_queue_maxlen (solved)

2001-10-15 Thread Garrett Wollman
[Quoting Archie Cobbs, I think:] >> There is probably a good paper somewhere outlining the "best effort" >> philosophy but I don't know what it is. That would be ``End-to-End Arguments in System Design'' by Jerry Saltzer, Dave Reed, and Dave Clark, one of the most influential papers ever written

Re: Strange situation with NAT and sendmail

2001-10-15 Thread The Psychotic Viper
Hi, On Mon, 15 Oct 2001, Matthew Emmerton wrote: > The problem I'm having is that I cannot connect to the mail server on > network A (10.0.0.2) from any machine behind the NAT gateway on network B. The mailserver is BEHIND the NAT box on network A? If so does your NAT do any form of forwarding?

Re: strange results with increased net.inet.ip.intr_queue_maxlen (solved)

2001-10-15 Thread Mike Tancsa
On Mon, 15 Oct 2001 23:00:27 + (UTC), in sentex.lists.freebsd.net you wrote: >Mike Tancsa writes: >> >If the forwarding path is maxed out, then it is the application layer's >> >responsibility to back off (think TCP). >> >> Is it better for the networking layer to deal with this (potentially

Re: Strange situation with NAT and sendmail [ FIXED ]

2001-10-15 Thread Matthew Emmerton
> On Mon, Oct 15, 2001 at 07:28:49PM -0400, Matthew Emmerton wrote: > > I've got two networks -- A (10.0.0.0/24) and B (192.168.0.0/24), both > > behind NAT gateways. > > > > The problem I'm having is that I cannot connect to the mail server on > > network A (10.0.0.2) from any machine behind the

Re: Strange situation with NAT and sendmail

2001-10-15 Thread Lars Eggert
Matthew Emmerton wrote: > I've got two networks -- A (10.0.0.0/24) and B (192.168.0.0/24), both > behind NAT gateways. > > The problem I'm having is that I cannot connect to the mail server on > network A (10.0.0.2) from any machine behind the NAT gateway on network B. > However, any system on

Strange situation with NAT and sendmail

2001-10-15 Thread Matthew Emmerton
I've got two networks -- A (10.0.0.0/24) and B (192.168.0.0/24), both behind NAT gateways. The problem I'm having is that I cannot connect to the mail server on network A (10.0.0.2) from any machine behind the NAT gateway on network B. However, any system on network B can successfully ping the g

Re: strange results with increased net.inet.ip.intr_queue_maxlen

2001-10-15 Thread Archie Cobbs
Mike Tancsa writes: > >If the forwarding path is maxed out, then it is the application layer's > >responsibility to back off (think TCP). > > Is it better for the networking layer to deal with this (potentially > introducing some latency) as opposed to letting the application ? Oops, can substi

Re: VLAN speed

2001-10-15 Thread Bill Fenner
>If I remember correct VLANs are not >even in ifTable, since they are not interfaces Why not? My reading of RFC 2863's section 3.1 says that although the VLAN multiplexing was not explicitly considered, it fits the ifStack model perfectly, and satisfies the requirements for defining a layer (n

Re: VLAN speed

2001-10-15 Thread Aleksander Rozman - Andy
At 10.10.2001, you wrote: >On Tue, Oct 09, 2001 at 10:19:09PM -0700, Bill Fenner wrote: > > > (ifSpeed says "For a sub-layer which has no concept of bandwidth, this > > object should be zero." I'd argue that this describes VLAN interfaces.) > >not that the vendor is always right or anything, but

Re: mrouted 3.8(how to find multicast members??)

2001-10-15 Thread Bill Fenner
> But the definition of threshhold TTL says that a >incoming multicast packets will be forwarded out of an >interface only if it has the TTL value >= threshold >TTL of that interface. Am I right? No. Zero is special, and means do not forward. If you have the kernel source, check out the ip_mdq

Re: Puzzled over sosend's handling of pre-prepared mbufs...

2001-10-15 Thread Ian Dowse
[a rather delayed response to this posting] In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Garrett Wollman write s: >In looking over mbuf handling for TCP some more, I noticed a puzzling >omission. When sosend() is handed an mbuf chain rather than a uio, it >makes no effort to check whether the chain would ac

RE: DNS causing problems with sendmail?

2001-10-15 Thread Drew J. Weaver
After 2 or 3 minutes it does work, the weird thing is that it was working No problem for 2 years and then suddenly it stopped working. Yes, our modem pool IP addresses all have PTR records, just not forward DNS (we aren't that stupid). When I specify a few of the non working hosts in /etc/

RE: DNS causing problems with sendmail?

2001-10-15 Thread Sean Mathias
I have seen a similar timeout problem, though not with dial up.  The problem was with the ident protocol talking to other mail servers.  When I turned off this check, performance improved greatly.    In the sendmail.cf file, I changed the ident timeout to zero to disable it.   O Timeout.i

Re: DNS causing problems with sendmail?

2001-10-15 Thread Brian
After the 2 or 3 minute delay, does it work?  Looked in /var/log/maillog for reject causes?  Are all the hosts you want to allow to send specified in /etc/mail/relay-domains?  If you want to try to see if dns is the cause, specify a few of the non working hosts in /etc/hosts.  Personally as

DNS causing problems with sendmail?

2001-10-15 Thread Drew J. Weaver
Hi, I've had this problem for a few days now, we have a small dial-up ISP and when users dial into one of our cities they get a 209.xxx.xxx.xxx IP and our mail server responds normally, we have another modem pool in that city that consists of 206.xxx.xxx.xxx IP addresses, if a user gets a 2

Re: Connect(2) problem

2001-10-15 Thread Mark Blackman
This actually sounds like a problem I hit once where the default settings actually restrict the number of ports. net.inet.ip.portrange.lowfirst: 1023 net.inet.ip.portrange.lowlast: 600 net.inet.ip.portrange.first: 1024 net.inet.ip.portrange.last: 5000 net.inet.ip.portrange.hifirst: 49152 net.ine

mrouted 3.8(how to find multicast members??)

2001-10-15 Thread deepika kakrania
Hi all, I am using mrouted (release 3.8) code on my system. In the code I find that for non-member interfaces of a multicast group, threshold TTL is set to 0. Like this. prun_add_ttls(gt) struct gtable *gt; { struct uvif *v; vifi_t vifi; for (vifi = 0, v = uvifs; vifi < nu