At 10.10.2001, you wrote:
>On Tue, Oct 09, 2001 at 10:19:09PM -0700, Bill Fenner wrote:
>
> > (ifSpeed says "For a sub-layer which has no concept of bandwidth, this
> > object should be zero."  I'd argue that this describes VLAN interfaces.)
>
>not that the vendor is always right or anything, but at least one
>implementation (juniper) behaves this way:
>
>  interfaces.ifTable.ifEntry.ifDescr.9 = fxp1.0
>  interfaces.ifTable.ifEntry.ifType.9 = ethernetCsmacd(6)
>  interfaces.ifTable.ifEntry.ifSpeed.9 = Gauge: 100000000
>
>  interfaces.ifTable.ifEntry.ifDescr.36 = ge-2/0/0.401
>  interfaces.ifTable.ifEntry.ifType.36 = ethernetCsmacd(6)
>  interfaces.ifTable.ifEntry.ifSpeed.36 = Gauge: 1000000000
>
>crisco only creates entries in the ifTable for physical interfaces in
>their routers (or at least for the ones that I have access to that use
>.1q or isl). cisco msfc2 reports gigabit for vlans, but that doesn't count.
>
>just a reference point. I would argue that vlans are definitely "a
>sub-layer which has no concept of bandwidth" too.

Yes and HP has special OIDs for VLANs. If I remember correct VLANs are not 
even in ifTable, since they are not interfaces, I am not 100% sure about 
this, but if they are in ifTable they have special type defined... It seems 
that every company has it's own way of dealing with VLANs...

As for sub-layer thing, I wouldn't argue with you that VLAN is sub-layer, 
but I think it has a little concet of bandwidth...

Andy

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