Re: ifconfig: changing mac address

1999-05-15 Thread Steve Rubin
This is not how Etherchannel works. Anyone from cisco here care to explain better than I possibly could? On Fri, May 14, 1999 at 08:28:55PM -0700, John Milford wrote: > > You have to have the capibility on the switch, and enable it > first. It is called EtherChannel by Cisco, and it is 2

Re: ifconfig: changing mac address

1999-05-15 Thread Matthew N. Dodd
On Sat, 15 May 1999, Greg Lehey wrote: > It seems there's a need, and the possibility. Would somebody like to > suggest a syntax? Keep in mind that a number of cards support multiple MAC addresses. Simply using GET/SET limits the potential uses. In general all cards will have a primary MAC addre

Re: ifconfig: changing mac address

1999-05-15 Thread Matthew N. Dodd
On Fri, 14 May 1999, Dan Nelson wrote: > And the next step would be to make the kernel realize that two cards > ifconfig'd with the same MAC address are meant to be bonded together > as one route (lots of switches support this). I have some machines > that I'd love to be able to get 20MB/sec bandw

Re: ifconfig: changing mac address

1999-05-15 Thread Narvi
On Sat, 15 May 1999, Greg Lehey wrote: > On Friday, 14 May 1999 at 21:15:33 -0500, Dan Nelson wrote: > > In the last episode (May 14), David Scheidt said: > >> On Sat, 15 May 1999, Greg Lehey wrote: > >> :It seems there's a need, and the possibility. Would somebody like > >> :to suggest a syntax

Re: ifconfig: changing mac address

1999-05-15 Thread Wilko Bulte
As Daniel Eischen wrote ... > > > Is it possible to change the mac address of an ethernet card using > > > ifconfig? > > > > Not in any 'standard' card, no. Some cards (in SUN workstations) allow > > you to swap the EEPROM with the mac address, and I'll bet somewhere > > someone has designed a c

Re: BSD, GPL, the world today.

1999-05-15 Thread Nik Clayton
[ Redirected to -chat ] On Fri, May 14, 1999 at 05:30:51PM -0600, Wes Peters wrote: > Matt Curtin wrote: > > > > > On Thu, 13 May 1999 10:25:21 -0400, Dennis said: > > > > Dennis> All software has bugs > > > > TeX has no bugs. > > TeX has no *known* bugs. To the best of my knowlege, even

Re: ifconfig: changing mac address

1999-05-15 Thread Joe Abley
On Sat, May 15, 1999 at 03:42:35AM -0400, Matthew N. Dodd wrote: > You want a sort of 'virtual' interface that allows the attachment of other > real (or maybe other 'virtual' interfaces) beneath it. This interface > implements a number of policies regarding how it routes packets addressed > to it.

Re: Seti project / stats reset, new version available

1999-05-15 Thread Joe Abley
On Fri, May 14, 1999 at 04:56:05PM -0700, Matthew Dillon wrote: > :>http://setiathome.ssl.berkeley.edu/ > : > : Now available at ftp://ftp.cdrom.com/pub/setiathome/ > : > :-DG > : > :David Greenman > :Co-founder/Principal Architect, The FreeBSD Project - http://www.freebsd.org > :Creator of h

Re: BSD, GPL, the world today.

1999-05-15 Thread Narvi
On Fri, 14 May 1999, Wes Peters wrote: > Matt Curtin wrote: > > > > > On Thu, 13 May 1999 10:25:21 -0400, Dennis said: > > > > Dennis> All software has bugs > > > > TeX has no bugs. > > TeX has no *known* bugs. To the best of my knowlege, even Dr. Knuth > has not yet been able to *prove

Re: Seti project / stats reset, new version available

1999-05-15 Thread Joe Abley
On Fri, May 14, 1999 at 04:57:30PM -0700, Matthew Jacob wrote: > > So do I. I would like them to make the source available. I have *lots* of > machines available that are sitting doing nothing. But they don't run > FreeBSD (yet). I have at least 3 alpha 8200s and 4 Alpha 4100s that are > running N

3.1 binaries, 3.2 binaries...?

1999-05-15 Thread Joe Abley
My stable machine now calls itself: FreeBSD buddha.clear.net.nz 3.2-BETA FreeBSD 3.2-BETA #11: Fri May 14 19:24:02 NZST 1999 jab...@buddha.clear.net.nz:/usr/src/sys/compile/TIMELORD i386 In other words, the release version number has wrapped to 3.2 from 3.1 following a sup and build the oth

Re: BSD, GPL, the world today.

1999-05-15 Thread Dag-Erling Smorgrav
Nik Clayton writes: > Didn't Knuth say "I've only proven TeX to be correct, I haven't tested > it" or some such? TeX is far too large to undergo even a partial correctness proof, much less a total correctness proof (I'm not even sure total correctness can be proven; cf. the halting problem). I se

Re: ifconfig: changing mac address

1999-05-15 Thread sthaug
> Things like DECnet set the MAC address. Don't ask me why though. Because there is a one to one correspondence between the DECnet (Phase IV) address and the MAC address. Ie. if you specify the DECnet address, you have also implicitly specified the MAC address. Steinar Haug, Nethelp consulting, s

Re: BSD, GPL, the world today.

1999-05-15 Thread Daniel C. Sobral
Andrew Kenneth Milton wrote: > > +[ Matt Curtin ]- > | > On Thu, 13 May 1999 10:25:21 -0400, Dennis said: > | > | Dennis> All software has bugs > | > | TeX has no bugs. > | > | But it's the exception, not the rule. > > You cannot test for the a

Re: BSD, GPL, the world today.

1999-05-15 Thread Daniel C. Sobral
Dag-Erling Smorgrav wrote: > > Correctness proofs are very time-consuming, because they can't be > automated. There are experimental tools which can assist with part of > the work (e.g. the partially-completed Abel project at the University > of Oslo: http://www.ifi.uio.no/~prover/abel/>) but the

Re: BSD, GPL, the world today.

1999-05-15 Thread Andrew Kenneth Milton
+[ Daniel C. Sobral ]- | Andrew Kenneth Milton wrote: | > | > +[ Matt Curtin ]- | > | > On Thu, 13 May 1999 10:25:21 -0400, Dennis said: | > | | > | Dennis> All software has bugs | > | | > | TeX ha

Re: BSD, GPL, the world today.

1999-05-15 Thread Dag-Erling Smorgrav
"Daniel C. Sobral" writes: > Dag-Erling Smorgrav wrote: > > [...] but the hardest > > part of the job - finding loop and type invariants and post- and > > pre-conditions which the prover can use as starting points - must > > still be done manually. > T

Patch for make -j exploit

1999-05-15 Thread Kris Kennaway
make -j creates temporary files for the purpose of storing shell commands - unfortunately, it just names them /tmp/makeX where X is the PID of the parent process. This leads to a potential DoS exploit wherein a user can guess the PID of the make process and create symlinks to, say /etc/pass

FreeBSD/USENIX Ocean Cruise

1999-05-15 Thread Randall Hopper
http://www.geekcruises.com/ What a cool idea. Maybe we'll see a FreeBSD/USENIX conference on-deck someday. Randall To Unsubscribe: send mail to majord...@freebsd.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message

Re: large master.passwd

1999-05-15 Thread Roar Thronæs
On Fri, 14 May 1999, Matthew Dillon wrote: > :Hi > : > :On a site with 20k users in the master.passwd, and where NIS is not > :trusted, the master.passwd is distributed to each workstation. > :The pwd.db and spwd.db are sized around 10Mb. > : > :Sometimes, those .db files get corrupt. > :I suspect

Re: large master.passwd

1999-05-15 Thread Matthew Dillon
:> : :> :On a site with 20k users in the master.passwd, and where NIS is not :> :trusted, the master.passwd is distributed to each workstation. :> :The pwd.db and spwd.db are sized around 10Mb. :> : :> :Sometimes, those .db files get corrupt. :> :I suspect it has something to do with the machines b

Re: Seti project / stats reset, new version available

1999-05-15 Thread Matthew Dillon
:If people have been having problems with proxy support in the 1.1 client :on FreeBSD, let me know and I'll mail you a new binary to test. It seems to be working now. Maybe it was just some bad work units. Very Odd. -Matt

Re: Seti project / stats reset, new version available

1999-05-15 Thread David Greenman
BTW, this story might be of interest: http://www.msnbc.com/news/255770.asp -DG David Greenman Co-founder/Principal Architect, The FreeBSD Project - http://www.freebsd.org Creator of high-performance Internet servers - http://www.terasolutions.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majord...@freeb

Re: large master.passwd

1999-05-15 Thread Roar Thronæs
On Sat, 15 May 1999, Matthew Dillon wrote: > :> : > :> :On a site with 20k users in the master.passwd, and where NIS is not > :> :trusted, the master.passwd is distributed to each workstation. > :> :The pwd.db and spwd.db are sized around 10Mb. > :> : > :> :Sometimes, those .db files get corrupt.

Formal methods

1999-05-15 Thread Daniel C. Sobral
Andrew Kenneth Milton wrote: > > | > You cannot test for the abscence of bugs. > | > | You can prove it, though. > > Only if you first prove the operating system and the compiler :-) Nah. These you axiom away. :-) -- Daniel C. Sobral(8-DCS) d...@newsguy.com d...@freebsd.

Re: FreeBSD/USENIX Ocean Cruise

1999-05-15 Thread Wes Peters
Randall Hopper wrote: > > http://www.geekcruises.com/ > > What a cool idea. > > Maybe we'll see a FreeBSD/USENIX conference on-deck someday. A FreeBSD "Gulls of a Feather?" ;^) They didn't mention if the cabins have 100BaseTX or not. I can offer FreeBSD cruises of the Great Salt Lake, with a

Formal methods

1999-05-15 Thread Daniel C. Sobral
Dag-Erling Smorgrav wrote: > [invariants, pre-conditions, post-conditions] > > As long as programs are written by humans, making human assumptions, > humans will be required to document their assumptions. Such as in modern structured languages. :-) (No, Perl and Python do not qualify! :) Anyway

Re: ifconfig: changing mac address

1999-05-15 Thread Mike Smith
> It seems there's a need, and the possibility. Would somebody like to > suggest a syntax? The precedent would be the socket ioctls SIOCGIFHWADDR and SIOCSIFHWADDR. The Linux emulator suppors the get-only version already. -- \\ Sometimes you're ahead, \\ Mike Smith \\ sometimes yo

Re: ifconfig: changing mac address

1999-05-15 Thread Justin C. Walker
> From: Greg Lehey > Date: 1999-05-14 19:21:11 -0700 > To: Dan Nelson > Subject: Re: ifconfig: changing mac address > Cc: David Scheidt ,"Mark J. Taylor" > , Daniel Eischen > ,freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG > In-reply-to: <19990514211533.a27...@dan.emsphone.com>; from Dan Nelson on > Fri,May 14, 1

Re: ifconfig: changing mac address

1999-05-15 Thread Justin C. Walker
> From: Mike Smith > Date: 1999-05-15 09:40:39 -0700 > To: Greg Lehey > Subject: Re: ifconfig: changing mac address > Cc: "Mark J. Taylor" ,Daniel Eischen > , freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG > In-reply-to: "Your message of Sat, 15 May 1999 11:13:49 > +0930."<19990515111348.k89...@freebie.lemis.com> >

StarOffice command line args

1999-05-15 Thread Andrew Gordon
Some while ago, Jon Smith wrote: > > Has anyone successfully gotten Star Office 5.0 to run multi-user? > I have just solved this. The problem is that StarOffice accesses the command line arguments (and hence the "/net" flag needed to install multi-user) using the vile /proc/xxx/cmdline mechanism.

Re: Seti project / stats reset, new version available

1999-05-15 Thread Matthew Dillon
The seti stuff appears to be working again. I think they just had some bad data batches. I'm running it on 6 cpus at idprio. Hmm.. seems to effect responsiveness some, sounds like something in the scheduler that we should be able to fix :-)

Re: Seti project / stats reset, new version available

1999-05-15 Thread Matthew Dillon
This reduces the effect an idprio seti background task has on the rest of the system. sysctl -w kern.quantum=2 The default is 100,000 ( 100ms ) which, for a modern cpu, is much more chunky then it needs to be. Reducing it to 20ms makes a big difference. At 10 I can fe

Re: BSD, GPL, the world today.

1999-05-15 Thread Bob Bishop
Hi, Matt Curtin wrote: > > > On Thu, 13 May 1999 10:25:21 -0400, Dennis said: > > Dennis> All software has bugs > > TeX has no bugs. Oh yes it has. [And if Don is reading this list, I think he'd agree my assertion is more credible than yours :-) ] -- Bob Bishop (0118) 977 401

Re: Seti project / stats reset, new version available

1999-05-15 Thread Julian Elischer
beware, I think this sysctl does something different on 3.x as I think there was a code freeze on 3.x when we fixed it.. On Sat, 15 May 1999, Matthew Dillon wrote: > This reduces the effect an idprio seti background task has on the rest of > the system. > > sysctl -w kern.quantum=2

Re: FreeBSD/USENIX Ocean Cruise

1999-05-15 Thread Bob Bishop
At 9:14 am -0400 15/5/99, Randall Hopper wrote: >http://www.geekcruises.com/ > >What a cool idea. > >Maybe we'll see a FreeBSD/USENIX conference on-deck someday. There was a very successful EUUG conference held on the Stockholm - Helsinki Ferry some years ago... -- Bob Bishop (0118)

Re: StarOffice command line args

1999-05-15 Thread Jon Smith
A million and one thanks + tax. Jon Smith On Sat, 15 May 1999, Andrew Gordon wrote: > Some while ago, Jon Smith wrote: > > > > Has anyone successfully gotten Star Office 5.0 to run multi-user? > > > > I have just solved this. The problem is that StarOffice accesses the > command line argumen

Re: MB86950 Support in the works?

1999-05-15 Thread Warner Losh
nIn message <373b297a.97302...@airnet.net> Kris Kirby writes: : I was wondering if any adventurous individual has looked into writing a : driver for the MB86950 ethernet controller. I have quite a few cards : that use this chip and would be more than willing to acid-test the : driver. (Ever got 1MB

Fwd: SourceXChange - get paid for open source

1999-05-15 Thread Wes Peters
I just received this on the BeDevTalk mailing list, and thought FreeBSD people may be interested in this too. I have directed followups to the -chat list. > HP and O'Reilly have started a web site that allows developers and clients to > find each other for the purpose of writing paid open source

VMware--anyone playing with it?

1999-05-15 Thread John & Jennifer Reynolds
http://www.vmware.com Is anyone playing with that VMware stuff? They say they have tested FreeBSD 2.2.8, 3.0, and 3.1 as "guest OS's" when using the linux software (whatever that means :) ... just wondering if anybody has messed with this. Sure would be nice to have it run under FreeBSD so I co

DK440LX config file

1999-05-15 Thread Chuck Robey
I'm moving my main platform from a Tyan Titan 2 to an Intel DK440LX. The Intel DK440LX motherboard has 2 PII 333MHz processors paying rent, but it's got a couple of onboard peripherals that make me want to go prospecting here to see if anyone else, who runs the DK440LX, could ship me their config f

Re: StarOffice command line args

1999-05-15 Thread adrian
>Some while ago, Jon Smith wrote: >> >> Has anyone successfully gotten Star Office 5.0 to run multi-user? >> > >I have just solved this. The problem is that StarOffice accesses the >command line arguments (and hence the "/net" flag needed to install >multi-user) using the vile /proc/xxx/cmdline me