Re: LDAP integration

2007-01-12 Thread Rick C. Petty
On Thu, Jan 11, 2007 at 01:54:46PM -0500, Nathan Vidican wrote: > > Take this idea, and run with it... build a package that installs over > the base installation, bundling the LDAP client libs, new rc structure, > tools, etc all in one shot. Add it to the ports collection and call it > done. I

RE: LDAP integration

2007-01-11 Thread Murray Taylor
> -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nathan Vidican > Sent: Friday, 12 January 2007 5:55 AM > To: Mike Meyer; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: LDAP integration > > Mike Meyer wrote: > > In <[EMAIL PRO

Re: LDAP integration

2007-01-11 Thread Nathan Vidican
Mike Meyer wrote: In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Vulpes Velox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> typed: LDAP is nice organizing across many systems, but if you are just dealing with one computer it is complete over kill for any thing. In that situation, it's not merely overkill, it's may actually be a bad i

Re: LDAP integration

2007-01-11 Thread Freddie Cash
On Thursday 11 January 2007 09:56 am, Darren Pilgrim wrote: > Mike Meyer wrote: > > In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Vulpes Velox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> typed: > >> LDAP is nice organizing across many systems, but if you are just > >> dealing with one computer it is complete over kill for any thing. > > > > I

Re: LDAP integration

2007-01-11 Thread Mike Meyer
In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Lamont Granquist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> typed: > > On Thu, 11 Jan 2007, Mike Meyer wrote: > > In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Vulpes Velox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> typed: > >> LDAP is nice organizing across many systems, but if you are just > >> dealing with one computer it is complete ove

Re: LDAP integration

2007-01-11 Thread Lamont Granquist
On Thu, 11 Jan 2007, Vulpes Velox wrote: I vote both are completely stupid. LDAP is nice organizing across many systems, but if you are just dealing with one computer it is complete over kill for any thing. Splitting rc.conf up into multiple files is just plain messy and stupid as well. I can s

Re: LDAP integration

2007-01-11 Thread Lamont Granquist
On Thu, 11 Jan 2007, Mike Meyer wrote: In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Vulpes Velox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> typed: LDAP is nice organizing across many systems, but if you are just dealing with one computer it is complete over kill for any thing. In that situation, it's not merely overkill, it's may actu

Re: Use of /etc/rc.conf.d (Was: Re: LDAP integration)

2007-01-11 Thread Lamont Granquist
On Thu, 11 Jan 2007, Doug Barton wrote: Lamont Granquist wrote: If i understand that correctly its not *exactly* what i was looking for, but its better than a monolithic /etc/rc.conf It looks like you must put /etc/rc.d/inetd config into either /etc/rc.conf or /etc/rc.config.d/inetd. Actual

Use of /etc/rc.conf.d (Was: Re: LDAP integration)

2007-01-11 Thread Doug Barton
Lamont Granquist wrote: > > On Wed, 10 Jan 2007, Doug Barton wrote: >> It's not documented, but the code is there in /etc/rc.subr: >> >> grep 'rc.conf\.d' /etc/rc.subr >>if [ -f /etc/rc.conf.d/"$_name" ]; then >>debug "Sourcing /etc/rc.conf.d/${_name}" >>.

Re: LDAP integration

2007-01-11 Thread Darren Pilgrim
Mike Meyer wrote: In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Vulpes Velox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> typed: LDAP is nice organizing across many systems, but if you are just dealing with one computer it is complete over kill for any thing. In that situation, it's not merely overkill, it's may actually be a bad idea. Can

Re: LDAP integration

2007-01-11 Thread Mike Meyer
In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Vulpes Velox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> typed: > LDAP is nice organizing across many systems, but if you are just > dealing with one computer it is complete over kill for any thing. In that situation, it's not merely overkill, it's may actually be a bad idea. Can you say "AIX SDR"

Re: LDAP integration

2007-01-11 Thread David Nugent
Vulpes Velox wrote: I vote both are completely stupid. LDAP is nice organizing across many systems, but if you are just dealing with one computer it is complete over kill for any thing. Splitting rc.conf up into multiple files is just plain messy and stupid as well. I can see there being times wh

Re: LDAP integration

2007-01-11 Thread Freddie Cash
On Wed, January 10, 2007 2:43 pm, Lamont Granquist wrote: > On Wed, 10 Jan 2007, Doug Barton wrote: >> Lamont Granquist wrote: >>> On Wed, 10 Jan 2007, Doug Barton wrote: > And if you're looking specifically at the /etc/rc.conf config > file, what would be more useful would be an /etc/rc.co

Re: LDAP integration

2007-01-11 Thread Vulpes Velox
On Thu, 11 Jan 2007 18:41:47 +1100 David Nugent <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Freddie Cash wrote: > > To each their own, of course. Personally, I am so sick of the way > > system like Debian use dozens of config files for each app, all in > > their own conf.d/ sub-directories. Some apps, like Pur

Re: LDAP integration

2007-01-11 Thread David Nugent
Freddie Cash wrote: To each their own, of course. Personally, I am so sick of the way system like Debian use dozens of config files for each app, all in their own conf.d/ sub-directories. Some apps, like PureFTPd actually use separate config files for each and every option it supports. Trying t

Re: LDAP integration

2007-01-10 Thread Freddie Cash
On Wed, January 10, 2007 2:43 pm, Lamont Granquist wrote: > On Wed, 10 Jan 2007, Doug Barton wrote: >> Lamont Granquist wrote: >>> On Wed, 10 Jan 2007, Doug Barton wrote: > And if you're looking specifically at the /etc/rc.conf config > file, what would be more useful would be an /etc/rc.co

Re: LDAP integration

2007-01-10 Thread Vulpes Velox
On Wed, 10 Jan 2007 17:10:36 -0800 (PST) Lamont Granquist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Wed, 10 Jan 2007, Vulpes Velox wrote: > > On Wed, 10 Jan 2007 13:56:23 -0800 > > Doug Barton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Lamont Granquist wrote: > >>> Why are you doing this in the FreeBSD rc script

Re: LDAP integration

2007-01-10 Thread Lamont Granquist
On Wed, 10 Jan 2007, Vulpes Velox wrote: On Wed, 10 Jan 2007 13:56:23 -0800 Doug Barton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Lamont Granquist wrote: Why are you doing this in the FreeBSD rc scripts directly? Why not install cfengine and work on making cfengine play better with database-driven config?

Re: LDAP integration

2007-01-10 Thread Lamont Granquist
On Wed, 10 Jan 2007, Vulpes Velox wrote: And if you're looking specifically at the /etc/rc.conf config file, what would be more useful would be an /etc/rc.conf.d/ directory. That gets away from the need to tweak and edit the /etc/rc.conf config file with multiple inputs tweaking a single file.

Re: LDAP integration

2007-01-10 Thread Brooks Davis
On Wed, Jan 10, 2007 at 04:54:59PM -0600, Vulpes Velox wrote: > On Wed, 10 Jan 2007 14:14:17 -0800 > Doug Barton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Vulpes Velox wrote: > > > > > There will be no massive patch for it, given it involves little > > > more than the inclusion of a single rc.d file and a

Re: LDAP integration

2007-01-10 Thread Vulpes Velox
On Wed, 10 Jan 2007 13:56:23 -0800 Doug Barton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Lamont Granquist wrote: > > > Why are you doing this in the FreeBSD rc scripts directly? Why > > not install cfengine and work on making cfengine play better with > > database-driven config? > > Indeed. For a "many syst

Re: LDAP integration

2007-01-10 Thread Vulpes Velox
On Wed, 10 Jan 2007 13:26:57 -0800 (PST) Lamont Granquist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > On Tue, 9 Jan 2007, Vulpes Velox wrote: > > The why is because I like centralized management and it would be > > really handy for that. For my use, it would be handy in regards > > to my laptops. > > >

Re: LDAP integration

2007-01-10 Thread Lamont Granquist
On Wed, 10 Jan 2007, Doug Barton wrote: Lamont Granquist wrote: On Wed, 10 Jan 2007, Doug Barton wrote: And if you're looking specifically at the /etc/rc.conf config file, what would be more useful would be an /etc/rc.conf.d/ directory. Good news for you, we already support that. :) I agree

Re: LDAP integration

2007-01-10 Thread Vulpes Velox
On Wed, 10 Jan 2007 14:14:17 -0800 Doug Barton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Vulpes Velox wrote: > > > There will be no massive patch for it, given it involves little > > more than the inclusion of a single rc.d file and a bit of > > documentation. > > In that case, you'll be glad to know that th

Re: LDAP integration

2007-01-10 Thread Doug Barton
Lamont Granquist wrote: > > > On Wed, 10 Jan 2007, Doug Barton wrote: >>> And if you're looking specifically at the /etc/rc.conf config file, what >>> would be more useful would be an /etc/rc.conf.d/ directory. >> >> Good news for you, we already support that. :) I agree that it makes a >> great

Re: LDAP integration

2007-01-10 Thread Doug Barton
Vulpes Velox wrote: > There will be no massive patch for it, given it involves little more > than the inclusion of a single rc.d file and a bit of documentation. In that case, you'll be glad to know that the base in 6.x and newer already supports running a local rc.d script in the overall rcorder

Re: LDAP integration

2007-01-10 Thread Lamont Granquist
On Wed, 10 Jan 2007, Doug Barton wrote: Lamont Granquist wrote: Why are you doing this in the FreeBSD rc scripts directly? Why not install cfengine and work on making cfengine play better with database-driven config? Indeed. For a "many systems" problem, cfengine is a great tool. I think t

Re: LDAP integration

2007-01-10 Thread Doug Barton
Lamont Granquist wrote: > Why are you doing this in the FreeBSD rc scripts directly? Why not > install cfengine and work on making cfengine play better with > database-driven config? Indeed. For a "many systems" problem, cfengine is a great tool. I think the OP is more interested in the "dynamic

Re: LDAP integration

2007-01-10 Thread Lamont Granquist
On Tue, 9 Jan 2007, Vulpes Velox wrote: The why is because I like centralized management and it would be really handy for that. For my use, it would be handy in regards to my laptops. I feel better central management is extreme significant. If I had nothing more to say than "this would be nea

Re: LDAP integration

2007-01-09 Thread Vulpes Velox
On Tue, 09 Jan 2007 13:23:29 -0800 Doug Barton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Vulpes Velox wrote: > > On Sun, 07 Jan 2007 22:02:30 -0800 > > Doug Barton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >> Vulpes Velox wrote: > >>> I was just wondering. How many people here have given lots of > >>> though about int

Re: LDAP integration

2007-01-09 Thread Doug Barton
Vulpes Velox wrote: > On Sun, 07 Jan 2007 22:02:30 -0800 > Doug Barton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Vulpes Velox wrote: >>> I was just wondering. How many people here have given lots of >>> though about integrating FreeBSD configuration with LDAP. I've >>> just begun looking at it a lot more an

Re: LDAP integration

2007-01-09 Thread Vitali Malicky
- Original Message - From: "Alexander Leidinger" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Vulpes Velox" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: ; "Doug Barton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, January 09, 2007 10:19 AM Subject: Re: LDAP integration Quoting Vulpes Velox

Re: LDAP integration

2007-01-09 Thread Alexander Leidinger
Quoting Vulpes Velox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (from Mon, 8 Jan 2007 18:52:47 -0600): On Sun, 07 Jan 2007 22:02:30 -0800 Doug Barton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Vulpes Velox wrote: > I was just wondering. How many people here have given lots of > though about integrating FreeBSD configuration with

Re: LDAP integration

2007-01-09 Thread Daniel O'Connor
On Monday 08 January 2007 11:36, Vulpes Velox wrote: > I was just wondering. How many people here have given lots of though > about integrating FreeBSD configuration with LDAP. I've just begun > looking at it a lot more and was curious as to what other people > think in this area. I use OpenLDAP w

Re: LDAP integration

2007-01-08 Thread Vulpes Velox
On Tue, 09 Jan 2007 09:22:31 +0200 Danny Braniss <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Sun, 07 Jan 2007 22:02:30 -0800 > > Doug Barton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > Vulpes Velox wrote: > > > > I was just wondering. How many people here have given lots of > > > > though about integrating FreeBS

Re: LDAP integration

2007-01-08 Thread Danny Braniss
> On Sun, 07 Jan 2007 22:02:30 -0800 > Doug Barton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Vulpes Velox wrote: > > > I was just wondering. How many people here have given lots of > > > though about integrating FreeBSD configuration with LDAP. I've > > > just begun looking at it a lot more and was curious

Re: LDAP integration

2007-01-08 Thread Vulpes Velox
On Sun, 07 Jan 2007 22:02:30 -0800 Doug Barton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Vulpes Velox wrote: > > I was just wondering. How many people here have given lots of > > though about integrating FreeBSD configuration with LDAP. I've > > just begun looking at it a lot more and was curious as to what >

Re: LDAP integration

2007-01-08 Thread Vulpes Velox
On Mon, 8 Jan 2007 09:21:21 +0100 VANHULLEBUS Yvan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sun, Jan 07, 2007 at 05:59:35PM -0600, Z.C.B. wrote: > > I was just wondering. How many people here have given lots of > > though about integrating FreeBSD configuration with LDAP. I've > > just begun looking at it

Re: LDAP integration

2007-01-08 Thread Alexander Leidinger
Quoting Doug Barton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (from Sun, 07 Jan 2007 22:02:30 -0800): Vulpes Velox wrote: I was just wondering. How many people here have given lots of though about integrating FreeBSD configuration with LDAP. I've just begun looking at it a lot more and was curious as to what other

Re: LDAP integration

2007-01-08 Thread Dave Horsfall
On Mon, 8 Jan 2007, Dave Horsfall wrote: > Out of all the O'Reilly books I have, the LDAP one was the most useless. I forgot to say, "and out of all the LDAP books I have *as well*". -- Dave ___ freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.fre

Re: LDAP integration

2007-01-08 Thread Dave Horsfall
On Mon, 8 Jan 2007, Tom Judge wrote: > I would recommend the "LDAP System Administration" book published by > O'Reilly. I wouldn't, unless a recipe book is your style; there are better books (which will have to wait until I get into work tomorrow). Out of all the O'Reilly books I have, the LDA

Re: LDAP integration

2007-01-08 Thread Tom Judge
VANHULLEBUS Yvan wrote: On Sun, Jan 07, 2007 at 05:59:35PM -0600, Z.C.B. wrote: I was just wondering. How many people here have given lots of though about integrating FreeBSD configuration with LDAP. I've just begun looking at it a lot more and was curious as to what other people think in this a

Re: LDAP integration

2007-01-08 Thread VANHULLEBUS Yvan
On Sun, Jan 07, 2007 at 05:59:35PM -0600, Z.C.B. wrote: > I was just wondering. How many people here have given lots of though > about integrating FreeBSD configuration with LDAP. I've just begun > looking at it a lot more and was curious as to what other people > think in this area. Hi. What do

Re: LDAP integration

2007-01-07 Thread Doug Barton
Vulpes Velox wrote: > I was just wondering. How many people here have given lots of though > about integrating FreeBSD configuration with LDAP. I've just begun > looking at it a lot more and was curious as to what other people > think in this area. It would be more useful to have this discussion i