Re: Benchmark: NetBSD 2.0 beats FreeBSD 5.3

2005-01-11 Thread David Schultz
On Sat, Jan 08, 2005, Ceri Davies wrote: > On Fri, Jan 07, 2005 at 06:10:06PM +0800, Xin LI wrote: > > On Fri, Jan 07, 2005 at 09:21:10AM +, Ceri Davies wrote: > > > I don't really think that this benchmark is bad news for either OS. My > > > only real concern are the process creation/terminat

Re: Benchmark: NetBSD 2.0 beats FreeBSD 5.3

2005-01-09 Thread Kero-Chan
FreeBSD vs NetBSD from an other perpective: http://www.cons.org/cmucl/platforms.html PS.: I like both. -- /Varga Péter/ ___ freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hackers To unsubscribe, send any mail

Re: Benchmark: NetBSD 2.0 beats FreeBSD 5.3

2005-01-08 Thread Dmitry Morozovsky
On Sat, 8 Jan 2005, David Malone wrote: DM> On Sat, Jan 08, 2005 at 01:21:14PM -0500, Charles Sprickman wrote: DM> > Any idea what type of impact this patch would have on say, a large qmail DM> > server that's drowning in context-switches? DM> DM> It will depend on how many processes you have ru

Re: Benchmark: NetBSD 2.0 beats FreeBSD 5.3

2005-01-08 Thread Ryan Sommers
David Malone wrote: On Sat, Jan 08, 2005 at 01:21:14PM -0500, Charles Sprickman wrote: Any idea what type of impact this patch would have on say, a large qmail server that's drowning in context-switches? It will depend on how many processes you have running at any one moment and how often

Re: Benchmark: NetBSD 2.0 beats FreeBSD 5.3

2005-01-08 Thread Robert Watson
On Sat, 8 Jan 2005, Charles Sprickman wrote: > Any idea what type of impact this patch would have on say, a large qmail > server that's drowning in context-switches? Probably not, but if you have a tolerance for doing profiling, loading debugging code, etc, there may be other things we can do t

Re: Benchmark: NetBSD 2.0 beats FreeBSD 5.3

2005-01-08 Thread David Malone
On Sat, Jan 08, 2005 at 01:21:14PM -0500, Charles Sprickman wrote: > Any idea what type of impact this patch would have on say, a large qmail > server that's drowning in context-switches? It will depend on how many processes you have running at any one moment and how often processes are created/d

Re: Benchmark: NetBSD 2.0 beats FreeBSD 5.3

2005-01-08 Thread Xin LI
On Sat, Jan 08, 2005 at 01:55:27PM +, Ceri Davies wrote: > On Fri, Jan 07, 2005 at 06:10:06PM +0800, Xin LI wrote: > > On Fri, Jan 07, 2005 at 09:21:10AM +, Ceri Davies wrote: > > > I don't really think that this benchmark is bad news for either OS. My > > > only real concern are the proce

Re: Benchmark: NetBSD 2.0 beats FreeBSD 5.3

2005-01-08 Thread Charles Sprickman
On Sat, 8 Jan 2005, Ceri Davies wrote: On Fri, Jan 07, 2005 at 06:10:06PM +0800, Xin LI wrote: On Fri, Jan 07, 2005 at 09:21:10AM +, Ceri Davies wrote: I don't really think that this benchmark is bad news for either OS. My only real concern are the process creation/termination results on FreeB

Re: Benchmark: NetBSD 2.0 beats FreeBSD 5.3

2005-01-08 Thread Ceri Davies
On Fri, Jan 07, 2005 at 06:10:06PM +0800, Xin LI wrote: > On Fri, Jan 07, 2005 at 09:21:10AM +, Ceri Davies wrote: > > I don't really think that this benchmark is bad news for either OS. My > > only real concern are the process creation/termination results on FreeBSD. > > I guess that this mi

Re: Benchmark: NetBSD 2.0 beats FreeBSD 5.3

2005-01-07 Thread Daniel O'Connor
On Fri, 7 Jan 2005 20:40, Xin LI wrote: > On Fri, Jan 07, 2005 at 09:21:10AM +, Ceri Davies wrote: > > I don't really think that this benchmark is bad news for either OS. My > > only real concern are the process creation/termination results on > > FreeBSD. > > I guess that this might worth inv

Re: Benchmark: NetBSD 2.0 beats FreeBSD 5.3

2005-01-07 Thread Xin LI
On Fri, Jan 07, 2005 at 09:21:10AM +, Ceri Davies wrote: > I don't really think that this benchmark is bad news for either OS. My > only real concern are the process creation/termination results on FreeBSD. I guess that this might worth investigating: http://people.freebsd.org/~das/p

Re: Benchmark: NetBSD 2.0 beats FreeBSD 5.3

2005-01-07 Thread Michael Ranner
Am Freitag, 7. Januar 2005 09:58 schrieb Gerald Heinig: > Hi Robert, > > the benchmark you cited is for uniprocessor systems only. > It says nothing about multiprocessor performance, which is what FreeBSD > is aiming for. > It's comparing apples with oranges. No, many users, me included, only run

Re: Benchmark: NetBSD 2.0 beats FreeBSD 5.3

2005-01-07 Thread Gerald Heinig
Hi Kamal, I don't know about any switches for ULE. My point is that it's not particularly meaningful to compare a system that's built for SMP to one that isn't. There have been a number of tests (sorry, don't have time to dig them all out) of systems with MP locks against systems without on a u

Re: Benchmark: NetBSD 2.0 beats FreeBSD 5.3

2005-01-07 Thread Ceri Davies
On Fri, Jan 07, 2005 at 01:10:04AM -0800, Kamal R. Prasad wrote: > > > Hi Robert, > > > > the benchmark you cited is for uniprocessor systems > > only. > > It says nothing about multiprocessor performance, > > which is what FreeBSD > > is aiming for. > Doesn't the (ULE) scheduler have a switch t

Re: Benchmark: NetBSD 2.0 beats FreeBSD 5.3

2005-01-07 Thread Kamal R. Prasad
--- Gerald Heinig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi Robert, > > the benchmark you cited is for uniprocessor systems > only. > It says nothing about multiprocessor performance, > which is what FreeBSD > is aiming for. Doesn't the (ULE) scheduler have a switch to ensure that performance is optimal

Re: Benchmark: NetBSD 2.0 beats FreeBSD 5.3

2005-01-07 Thread Gerald Heinig
Hi Robert, the benchmark you cited is for uniprocessor systems only. It says nothing about multiprocessor performance, which is what FreeBSD is aiming for. It's comparing apples with oranges. Cheers, Gerald Robert Ryan wrote: Fellow FreeBSD developers, I hate to say I told you but it was inevitab

Re: Benchmark: NetBSD 2.0 beats FreeBSD 5.3

2005-01-06 Thread Edwin Groothuis
On Thu, Jan 06, 2005 at 11:57:26AM +, Robert Ryan wrote: > I hate to say I told you but it was inevitable. I think so Brain, but I don't think Netcraft has confirmed it yet? -- Edwin Groothuis |Personal website: http://www.mavetju.org [EMAIL PROTECTED]| Weblog:

Re: Benchmark: NetBSD 2.0 beats FreeBSD 5.3

2005-01-06 Thread Martin P. Hellwig
Nguyen Tam Chinh wrote: Please don't treat this seriously. Benchmarks are just benchmarks. But the benchmarks and comparison, widespreaded through sites like slashdot or osnews, sometimes affect the interest and view point of some new and potential users. May be we should do some full benchmarks

Re: Benchmark: NetBSD 2.0 beats FreeBSD 5.3

2005-01-06 Thread Martin P. Hellwig
PS: if I've offended anyone (yeah, I singled a few out) , prove me wrong, but spare me your insultedness. It's become a pathetic hobby in -core. Benchmark are made to be put into perspective, although everybody has a right to say what he wants to say, this doesn't mean that you have to say

Re: Benchmark: NetBSD 2.0 beats FreeBSD 5.3

2005-01-06 Thread Nguyen Tam Chinh
Please don't treat this seriously. Benchmarks are just benchmarks. But the benchmarks and comparison, widespreaded through sites like slashdot or osnews, sometimes affect the interest and view point of some new and potential users. May be we should do some full benchmarks as an answer and to rev