o get that set up) using LDAP or netinfo. Possibly, libsysconfig would
provide the same functionality for C programs, similar to PAM or
nsswitch.
Actually, for me it doesn't matter, so long as we actually get over the
hurdle of not being able to read/edit the configuration automatically.
If we&#x
r C, though.
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I got one "go ahead", but a "I don't see the point" from the
then-pseudo-maintainer of the rc stuff.
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whatever (netinfo?) to get our configuration.
===>>>
When we can finally get rid of non-variables in the configuration system
we no longer rely on 'sh', and we can read configuration using any
programming language, and/or (even better) back the configuration up
with LDAP or wh
MAP client support yet.
Most IMAP clients I know of support SSL. Outlook, Outlook Express,
Eudora, Netscape, Evolution, mutt, pine, ...
Which IMAP clients don't?
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many believe it's a sane
default. If it were reverted, I'm sure there'll be lots of people
re-adding the change to their security regimen. And lots more people
scurrying to patch when the next DoS or exploit comes out.
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t be able to do it all within sh, by
using case and "Parameter Expansion" (see the section in the sh man
page).
Try this:
case ${ifconfig_args} in
*[Dd][Hh][Cc][Pp]*)
# do stuff with whatever
$ifconfig_args=${ifconfig_args%dhcp}
;;
esac
This probably won't work, since I've not tested it. Casedness is
irritating too - dd.sh would advocate converting it all to lowercase
with ``dd conv=lcase''. ;)
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ade subsys]
>[nfs mount]<-++-->[package installer]
> [ftp/http fetcher]<-+
>
>
> this in no way perfect, just some idea -- feel free to flame me if i
> missed the point, but don't rip out my intestines ;-)
>
s/python/tcl/, and you're talking about "libh".
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o a host and disconnect immediately. It
might be failing after trying to open or read from /dev/urandom. Can
you give the output of 'ls -l /dev/*random'?
Maybe someone will have something useful to go on from the information
above instead of "it doesn't work".
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ith the old
behaviour default. _Especially_ if you intend to MFC this, since
changing this behaviour in a minor release, without a way to have the
old behaviour, is almost certainly wrong.
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with "u
s(virtualTime, &database, TRUE, TRUE);
} else {
wakeupKind = -1;
if (timeDiff > -(3*MINUTE_COUNT))
wakeupKind = 0;
...
It should work exactly like the old cron behaviour, unless the '-b' flag
is given.
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oks like it rebuilds them itself in a
> whacked out way to make the whole thing work.
>
> Still, I don't think it is too onerous a requirement that a buildworld
> have happened first.
The problem then is that the programs aren't built with the correct set
of defines and envi
ace to place
the addition of OBJFORMAT_PATH, since $PATH is made to include the
supplied $PATH environment variable in many other places. I'm not
willing to make a judgement whether using the supplied OBJFORMAT_PATH is
correct in any of those places, but I wish to fix the buildkernel
target.
crontab file. The setgid is for adjusting the
modification time on the crontab directory, to signal to cron that there
has been a change.
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also toyed with making
the directory sticky, and adding sanity checks to cron to not invoke
tabs not owned by the user they refer to or root, or at least give
warnings.
FWIW, I had patches to convert 'at' and 'crontab' to being sgid-at
and sgid-crontab ('at' has some really ugly macros that luckily aren't
needed again). I'll probably be doing them again, now that my time is
more sane.
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back. And if it's a big
backwards jump, assume something unusual is up, and just start
functioning as if the time hadn't changed.
The previous behaviour says not to care what changes occur in time
whatsoever, and only compare this exact current minute of the waking up
to the crontab lis
until 5.0, if that is deemed necessary.
Now, if anyone has a reasoned argument about the new algorithm (like,
how it handles certain kinds of events in a surprising way), I'd like to
hear it, or we can proceed to make it an option.
If anyone has some clear cases why this is a truly aston
jor skills will read the release
notes. Common sense indicates that they are able to use a command line
option that disable the new reliable behaviour. There has been
expressed a need for testing. That is dealt with by three years in
OpenBSD, and a period of time in the development branch
ld be postponed to being in a release until 5.0; by then we'd
have had our own testing for at least one DST change, and OpenBSD's
testing for at least 7.
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ed behaviour for a tiny percentage. Those people should be
reading the release notes ("or they shouldn't be system administrators
or run FreeBSD").
Again, this change is from OpenBSD. We will synchronise with their
changes, and perhaps offer them back a patch to ignore what "ultra l
Also, the only reason cron is
doing the wrong thing now is that it is trying to be clever to let
people set jobs in their local time, and we get bit because of silly
things like DST. It should, of course, be expressed as UTC.)
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nd that there
> will be vigorous resistance to incorporating your proposed changes.
And when you finally realize that everyone else thinks this is a great
idea, you'll stop your sole campaign to vigourously resist the
incorporation of this code? If it helps, we can have an option ('
u most enjoy and/or are best at. If you like writing
documentation, there's the documentation project; if you like general
hacking, generally hack, and if you like in-depth kernel stuff, I'm sure
the kernel people will be happy for more of themselves. (:
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to test
DST changes?", and then promptly forgetting about it, because I never
really deal with DST changes. I think the only way is the hard way -
changing the date in increments and testing whether extra or no jobs are
run.
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make the users link against their GPL libc if I was worried about
license problems on a "free software only" system.
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ut I used a
table per device type. I'm uncertain as to what others think on that.
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and 1.3 RES, though. Bad bad pwm,
with quite a few frames and a number of tabs in each, all over about 6
workspaces. And I haven't manage to crash it yet, so I'm quite happy.
Check out ports/x11-wm/pwm sometime. See the home page
http://www.students.tut.fi/~tuomov/pwm/ for what passes for "themes". (:
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vestigate the NetBSD stuff properly, and compare it with slightly more
featureful USM ( http://www.roguetrader.com/~brandon/sas/ ), which
unfortunately may do too many things behind your back than what we're
used to.
However, I have a few things before that in my queue, and one of them is
maki
n
. /etc/defaults/periodic.conf
source_periodic_confs
fi
with
rcfile=/etc/defaults/periodic.conf listvar=periodic_conf_files . /etc/sourceconf
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===
RCS
amp.
>
> Yet, there are still isolated cases where raw io can be beneficial. What
> should I do for raw io in later versions of FreeBSD?
We didn't get rid of raw devices. We got rid of block devices, and kept
character devices.
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information, is available in http://www.FreeBSD.org/handbook/disks.html
Of course, noone reads documentation, so I don't know why I bother. (:
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_bpf, ifp, DLT_EN10MB, sizeof(struct ether_header));
In other words - if_attach is no more. But, older drivers still use
if_attach, and thus when ether_ifattach occurs, that's the second time
that happens.
Of course, I have no idea how the ether_ifattach argument change affects
things - I'
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.endfor
>
> test:
> echo BAR=${BAR}
Makefile2 expands to:
BAZ= widget
.if widget == ${BAZ}
BAR= equal
.endif
And '.if' only takes "expressions", which can be comparisons (ie, "!=",
"=="), which in turn must have a variable on the left hand sid
happy with the performance. What
> > benefits would I realize using /tmp on a ramdisk?
>
> CW on this is varied, but the current trend is that /tmp on a md is just a
> waste of ram, since (basically) everything in /tmp is in ram twice.
I think that's MFS, not MD.
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Hi,
There are plenty of PRs languishing without comment in the PR database,
and this is one that requires a "implement and close it" or "here's a
good reason not to do this, and close it" response.
Any takers? Reply-To set to myself.
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to refer to programs that
> need to be installed from a port first?
'less' will be in 4.1 and beyond.
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. Anyway, you can set your tab size to whatever you want. So long as
it is a _tab_, and not 2 or 4 or 8 spaces. If you're heading into the
margin constantly, you should simplify your code, or break it up into
(preferably reusable) functions that perform one task.
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On Mon 2000-06-19 (11:45), Neil Blakey-Milner wrote:
> 'linuxbios' will only support booting off Linux partitions?
>
> I doubt they're replacing a multi-purpose, occasionally
> not-all-that-clever thing, with a single-purpose very-often
> not-all-that-clever thin
#x27;s easy.
'linuxbios' will only support booting off Linux partitions?
I doubt they're replacing a multi-purpose, occasionally
not-all-that-clever thing, with a single-purpose very-often
not-all-that-clever thing?
What 'support' will FreeBSD require in 'linuxbios'?
On Thu 2000-06-15 (14:03), Marinos J . Yannikos wrote:
> On Thu, Jun 15, 2000 at 01:47:17PM +0200, Neil Blakey-Milner wrote:
> > The PR number might be useful, if you have it. If it's not in the PR
> > database, then you should submit it. That way we get to lay blame
&g
x break something? If not, why isn't it in 3.4-STABLE yet?
> It is necessary for the above configuration (or isn't it? I couldn't find
The PR number might be useful, if you have it. If it's not in the PR
database, then you should submit it. That way we get to lay blame
*gri
t; fox syslog.conf. Are there any syslogds that can do this? What
> > syntax do they use?
>
> I have a patched version to do this.
> If anyone is interessted I'm producing diffs.
I'm sure many people are interested. Send a PR, or patches to
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t also means you can set up your quotas, change the traffic numbers,
change the match sets, all without changing your basic firewall rules.
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2 (dummynet middle quota)
ipfw add pipe 2 ip from any to any oquota 2 uquota 3 (get even slower)
ipfw add deny ip from any to any oquota 3 (total stop)
(allowing for slower and slower service instead of just two levels)
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make sense. I do like the
way the auto-ifconfig and auto-mount stuff works, though.
At the very least, I'd like a probe-only way to find out what devices
are available, given a bunch of device driver modules.
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> It might be nice to start running on modules regularly. It would also
> be useful to be able to update your device driver while running
> freebsd, without needing to reboot.
You can already do this. kldunload the old module, and kldload the new
module. Or am I missing somethin
s not 'correct', but it does happen, and is copiously documented and
mentioned on various mailing lists. It would be nice if you could fix
it *grin*.
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On Sun 2000-06-04 (23:06), Coleman Kane wrote:
> Look through /modules...
I'm still having problems working out what this will do. Can you
explain the differences between the current way of doing things, and
what your stuff will conceptually do?
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On Wed 2000-04-19 (16:51), Neil Blakey-Milner wrote:
> I have another idea: We make a sh script named "rcsource" or whatever,
> which we source when we want to have the rc environment, stealing your
> code maliciously:
>
> /--
> sourcercs_sourced_files=
>
of a preprocessor for a file:
preprocessor__etc_defaults_rc.conf='cpp' will be checked if sourcercs is
run on /etc/defaults/rc.conf, and it will be passed through cpp before
trying to understand it. This should be extensible enough to avoid the
need of sh-script to get a value
cvs tree of the directory I'm in:
(nbm@mithrandr) /usr/src/contrib/cvs> ncvs
(nbm@mithrandr) /home/ncvs/src/contrib/cvs>
uncvs pushes me back. ncvs could be made much more intelligent, of
course.
Anyway, enough of that. Time for me to finally learn zsh.
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ght some people might be interested in this - if it
works well enough, it might even be useful to put in the tools
directory, or integrate it into any 'update' target that may appear.
It's at http://people.FreeBSD.org/~nbm/three-to-four-conf.pl
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x27;s easy enough to just rename
the project and carry on with the existing code. There's nothing
that can be done to prevent it, and you'd basically have FreeBSD
again. Walnut Creek doesn't own FreeBSD, so BSDI can't buy FreeBSD
via Walnut Creek.
So, no, FreeBSD certainly i
t FreeBSD with
regards to quality control, and what I don't know about Slackware
in order to answer your question.)
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ince starting
my new job to work on it much more.
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unt then mount) is the way to change mountpoint names.
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ency" information, which isn't too great.
You can find the directory of alternate version ports in /usr/ports/INDEX
(much like pkg_version) - grep for the exact version specified in
the return from pkg_version, and you pick up the correct ports
directory as a bonus.
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e interpretation -
usually pkg_version takes a path to the INDEX as its only argument,
my patches use a -f location option.
Plug in those patches Nik has, and you can have intelligent automatic
updating (although sometimes you'll clobber your configuration
files).
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; if (flag)
> j = 1;
>
return j;
> }
Or, if you really want to, use your other return scheme.
In other words, initialize j, probably to 0.
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; if (flag)
> j = 1;
>
return j;
> }
Or, if you really want to, use your other return scheme.
In other words, initialize j, probably to 0.
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ect conjunctions), which
has always caused havoc in my brief involvement in user education
and documentation.
I'd also like to advocate the return of the semi-colon; it is
underused.
(Follow-ups to -chat)
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ect conjunctions), which
has always caused havoc in my brief involvement in user education
and documentation.
I'd also like to advocate the return of the semi-colon; it is
underused.
(Follow-ups to -chat)
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> On Thu, 26 Aug 1999, Neil Blakey-Milner wrote:
>
> > On Thu 1999-08-26 (12:15), Ben Rosengart wrote:
> > >
> > > (The man page seems to be in error, though, when it says that "sysctl
> > > vfs&qu
s are available.)
lsvfs should give a good indication.
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> On Thu, 26 Aug 1999, Neil Blakey-Milner wrote:
>
> > On Thu 1999-08-26 (12:15), Ben Rosengart wrote:
> > >
> > > (The man page seems to be in error, though, when it says that "sysctl
> > > vfs&qu
ystems are available.)
lsvfs should give a good indication.
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ges to this effect active on a box not here, I'll see if it
is up-to-date enough to generate patches, and send them on to help you,
if necessary.
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ges to this effect active on a box not here, I'll see if it
is up-to-date enough to generate patches, and send them on to help you,
if necessary.
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ent configuration files (which you can),
if those people who want to run both wrapped and non-wrapped services
agree that this is an option, there needn't be a hack to do this sort
of thing.
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nfiguration files (which you can),
if those people who want to run both wrapped and non-wrapped services
agree that this is an option, there needn't be a hack to do this sort
of thing.
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