Re: Writing a (BSD like) Operating Systems From Scratch

Jorge Alberto Garcia wrote: > > Hello Joshua, i think you should try XV6, i am pretty one person can > understand it to get a general yet down to the earth felling about a unix > like system; then try with Minix2 > > http://pdos.csail.mit.edu/6.828/2012/xv6.html > > Tnx. > -J.A. Garcia Great to

Re: Writing a (BSD like) Operating Systems From Scratch

"Welcome, Traiano" wrote: > May I ask where you get the divine wisdom to know where I "would be better > working with" ? don't you think that would be best left up to me? etc ... elided As politeness fails: Waste your own time as you want. Don't waste FreeBSD people's time, asking advice how

Re: Writing a (BSD like) Operating Systems From Scratch

"Welcome, Traiano" wrote: > Hi All > I've been read thousands of pages of FreeBSD and Linux Kernel source code and > books on the internals of BSD and Linux over the years in attempt to develop > a complete understanding of operating systems (or at least, UNIX like ones). > However, I feel that

sbin/fsck_msdosfs does not handle media with 2K blocks

Hi hack...@freebsd.org cc: gdt@NetBSD, pa...@uts.amdahl.com(< grep @ src/sbin/fsck_msdosfs/*.c) cc: rnord...@freebsd.org(< man newfs_msdos) cc: Tom Rhodes (< man 5 msdosfs> sbin/fsck_msdosfs (FreeBSD 9.1-RELEASE) fails on 2K block media, media in this case, an mp3 p

Re: calendar(1) regressions

"Greg 'groggy' Lehey" wrote: > > --ryJZkp9/svQ58syV > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > Content-Disposition: inline > > On Tuesday, 11 December 2012 at 3:52:32 +0100, Julian H. Stacey wrote: > > "Greg 'groggy' Lehey" w

Re: calendar(1) regressions

"Greg 'groggy' Lehey" wrote: > > --cHMo6Wbp1wrKhbfi > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > Content-Disposition: inline > > On Monday, 10 December 2012 at 16:27:39 +0200, Jaakko Heinonen wrote: > > > > Hi! > > > > On 2012-12-10, Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote: > >>> Unfortunately r205821 [1] ha

Re: Missing quote in comment in 8.3 & 9.0 & 9.1RC2 etc/sendmail/freebsd.mc

Hi, Reference: > From: Eitan Adler > Date: Tue, 4 Dec 2012 20:58:20 -0500 > Message-id: > Eitan Adler wrote: > On 4 December 2012 20:21, Julian H. Stacey wrote: > > At Wed Dec 5 02:16:29 CET 2012 the web ref fails: > > http://www.free

Re: Missing quote in comment in 8.3 & 9.0 & 9.1RC2 etc/sendmail/freebsd.mc

> There is a missing double quote " in > 8.3 & 9.0 & 9.1RC2 src/etc/sendmail/freebsd.mc > 8.2-RELEASE & earlier are OK. > I will send-pr unless I hear otherwise. I sent a patch, & received this Message-id: <201212041520.qb4fk0pn030...@freefall.freebsd.org> Date: Tue, 4 Dec 2012

Missing quote in comment in 8.3 & 9.0 & 9.1RC2 etc/sendmail/freebsd.mc

Hi hack...@freebsd.org There is a missing double quote " in 8.3 & 9.0 & 9.1RC2 src/etc/sendmail/freebsd.mc 8.2-RELEASE & earlier are OK. Here's a diff -c to .mc The diff is not to fix it, but to help generate a freebsd.cf to understand the difference. The patch for a fix would befar more trivia

Re: Providing a default graphical environment on FreeBSD

> And then, a modern GUI should take care of Wifi, automount, No thanks, seperate issues. > and many > things can't be done with a single WM. That's why I said "twm is not a > modern GUI". So far, any questions? TWM is not a modern window manager, but is small & light, & comes with X11. I'm ha

Re: Why fdisk can't open root disk with MBR for writing?

Chris Rees wrote: > On 16 September 2012 10:23, Julian H. Stacey wrote: > > This is a resend as Benjamin Kaduk > > dropped the > > Yuri > > from CC line, & Yuri was the original first poster in thread who > > my patch would presumably have

Re: Why fdisk can't open root disk with MBR for writing?

Benjamin Kaduk wrote: > On Sat, 15 Sep 2012, Julian H. Stacey wrote: > > > I have been applying this diff to my man fdisk: > > > > http://berklix.com/~jhs/src/bsd/fixes/FreeBSD/src/gen/sbin/fdisk/ > > > > *** 8.0-RELEASE/src/sbin/fdisk/fdisk.8 Sat Mar 14

Re: Why fdisk can't open root disk with MBR for writing?

Hi Yuri & hackers, Garrett Cooper wrote: > On Fri, Sep 14, 2012 at 5:19 PM, Yuri wrote: > > I am trying to change the active partition in MBR. > > This should be a matter of changing only two bits (clearing one in one byte > > and setting another one in another byte). > > > > However, fdisk compl

Re: FreeBSD 1.x Binaries Work Except under Chroot

> Try to ktrace the binaries to see what is going on. I suspect that > sources for 1.1.5 are not in our cvs/svn, so it is troublesome to > say anuthing without ktrace dump. Not that I need it, but I looked to see how old we go. (Sometimes its nice to have old stuff, eg to defeat patent claims) I

upgrade from 8.2 to 8.3 kernel needs setenv MK_INET_SUPPORT YES

Hi hackers@ I'm not sure if this is a generic bug or a local oddity: I upgraded an 8.2-RELEASE amd64 to 8.3-rel using src/ First building a new kernel, & that broke, I've lost the error message, but the problem & fix was: cd /sys/amd64/conf config GENERIC cd ../compile/GEN

Re: NTFS GSoC Project Idea

Efstratios Karatzas wrote: > Greetings, > > I am a FreeBSD GSoC 2010 student, looking to participate in this years > GSoC. The project that I wish to work on is the FreeBSD NTFS driver. > > I 've already discussed my project idea with Attilio@ who suggested that I > forward my proposal to the hac

Re: Getting PRs fixed (was: Re: ...focus, longevity, and lifecycle)

Igor Mozolevsky wrote: > On 19 January 2012 00:57, Dieter BSD wrote: > > > Idea 2: Give it status. Set up a web page with PR fixing stats > > > > name/handle..total PRs fixed...fixed in last 12 months...average fixed/year > > Sheldon..150...9072 > > Leonard

Re: Sound on the system briefly interrupts when kde4 switches windows with nvidia card

Hi, Reference: > From: Yuri > Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2012 16:21:19 -0800 > Message-id: <4f136d7f.6070...@rawbw.com> Yuri wrote: > On 01/15/2012 15:34, Dieter BSD wrote: > > Some drivers do things like DELAY(big number) while interrupts are turned > > off. Very bad. Look through th

Re: Shrinking 4 parititions on a new HP laptop

"Julian H. Stacey" wrote: > A new purchased HP laptop (pavilion entertainment PC dm3 ... As no answer so far, I reformulated posting, added info & reposted to sysinstall@ Cheers, Julian -- Julian Stacey, BSD Unix Linux C Sys Eng Consultants Munich http://berklix.com Reply

Shrinking 4 parititions on a new HP laptop

Hi hackers@ A new purchased HP laptop (pavilion entertainment PC dm3 http://reviews.shopping.hp.com/8843/dm3t_series/hp-pavilion-dm3t-customizable-notebook-pc-reviews/reviews.htm had all 4 partitions occupied with Windows 7 Home Prem OA. (Maybe the shop did that) I want just 1 of the 4 f

Re: man bzip2 - suggest we add to See Also

Chris Rees wrote: > On 11 September 2011 13:19, Julian H. Stacey wrote: > > "b. f." wrote: > >> > > >> > I suggest we should add a See Also section to man bzip2, > >> > > >> >         FreeBSD-8.2-RELEASE & current

Re: man bzip2 - suggest we add to See Also

: > From: "Julian H. Stacey" > Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2011 14:19:33 +0200 > "Julian H. Stacey" wrote: > "b. f." wrote: > > > > > > I suggest we should add a See Also section to man bzip2, > > > > > >

Re: man bzip2 - suggest we add to See Also

"b. f." wrote: > > > > I suggest we should add a See Also section to man bzip2, > > > > FreeBSD-8.2-RELEASE & current man bzip2 > > .../-current/src/contrib/bzip2/bzip2.1 > > > > adding URLs > > http://www.7-zip.org/download.html -> > > http://www.freshp

man bzip2 - suggest we add to See Also

[ Resend as I missed an '@' in address of author jseward@ I suggest we should add a See Also section to man bzip2, FreeBSD-8.2-RELEASE & current man bzip2 .../-current/src/contrib/bzip2/bzip2.1 adding URLs http://www.7-zip.org/download.html -> http

Re: pub/FreeBSD/releases/i386/8.2-RELEASE/floppies/

per...@pluto.rain.com wrote: > "Julian H. Stacey" wrote: > > > With no USB boot, No CD (except maybe pcmcia cdrom & that > > too would need a floppy to start it, Even PL-IP would need > > a floppy to start with. > .. > > Sure I have other better

pub/FreeBSD/releases/i386/8.2-RELEASE/floppies/

Hi all, http://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/install-pre.html near end with red vertical bar ... Is Wrong, It says: Please note, as of FreeBSD 8.X, floppy disk images are no longer available. Please see above for instructions on how to install FreeBSD using a USB memo

Re: Freebsd-7.4 + std gcc 4.2.1 fails to honour -march=i586

Hi freebsd-toolch...@freebsd.org, freebsd-i...@freebsd.org cc: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Sun Jul 17 01:19:37 UTC 2011 I wrote to freebsd-hackers@ with Subject: Freebsd-7.4 + std gcc 4.2.1 fails to honour -march=i586 Summary: I found a problem with CFLAGS += -march=i586 on an i686 lin

Re: Freebsd-7.4 + std gcc 4.2.1 fails to honour -march=i586

Hi, Alexander Kabaev wrote: > On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 2:04 PM, Julian H. Stacey wrote: > > Hi John & all, > > > > > > >> It is not just the crt files > >> that matter, but every library.  You would need CPU-specific versions of > >> every

Re: Freebsd-7.4 + std gcc 4.2.1 fails to honour -march=i586

Hi John & all, > On Wednesday, July 20, 2011 8:34:57 am Julian H. Stacey wrote: > > Hi, > > Reference: > > > From: John Baldwin > > > Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2011 07:48:05 -0400 > > > Message-id: <201107200748.05

Re: Freebsd-7.4 + std gcc 4.2.1 fails to honour -march=i586

> Even if we're too lazy to do anything more, we should at least > document it as a patch to man gcc. PS Please no one take offense at word "Lazy" I'm as lazy as the next man. A good engineer can be a lazy engineer, - if he works to max efficiency :-) Cheers, Julian -- Julian Stacey, BSD Unix Li

Re: Freebsd-7.4 + std gcc 4.2.1 fails to honour -march=i586

Hi, Reference: > From: John Baldwin > Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2011 07:48:05 -0400 > Message-id: <201107200748.05786@freebsd.org> John Baldwin wrote: > On Wednesday, July 20, 2011 7:33:26 am Julian H. Stacey wrote: > > What should FreeBSD do ? > >

Re: Freebsd-7.4 + std gcc 4.2.1 fails to honour -march=i586

Hi Dan cc list Dan Nelson wrote: > In the last episode (Jul 17), Julian H. Stacey said: > > Hi all, > > ENVIRONMENT: > > Standard > > gcc version 4.2.1 20070719 [FreeBSD] > > that comes with > > FreeBSD 7.4-RELEASE > > on m

Freebsd-7.4 + std gcc 4.2.1 fails to honour -march=i586

Hi all, ENVIRONMENT: Standard gcc version 4.2.1 20070719 [FreeBSD] that comes with FreeBSD 7.4-RELEASE on my 686 host with CFLAGS += -march=i586 in /etc/make.conf used with cd /usr/src/bin/who ; make clean ; make cleandir ; make clean ; m

Re: regression error with calendar

Hi Jaako, > From: Jaakko Heinonen Jaakko Heinonen wrote: > On 2011-07-05, Julian H. Stacey wrote: > > There's a regression error with calendar between FreeBSD-8.1 & 8.2-RELEASES > > Test data: > > - > > Tue+1 TESTX 1 > > Tuesda

regression error with calendar

There's a regression error with calendar between FreeBSD-8.1 & 8.2-RELEASES Test data: - Tue+1 TESTX 1 Tuesday+1 TESTX 2 * Tuesday+1 TESTX 3 Tuesday+1 * TESTX 4 Tuesday TESTX5 Tuesday TESTX6 - Data shown with od -c in case any mail or web arch

Re: FreeBSD is a summer course in Ain Shams University

Hi, Mohammed Farrag wrote: > Hello FreeBSDers, > >After the starting of FreeBSD handbook translation, ArabBSD could attract > Ain Shams University which is one of the most important universities in > Egypt and Arab World to offer Free Summer Course for FreeBSD Administration > and FreeBSD deve

Re: tar has deficient error handling. send-pr fix sent 31 Jan 2011

e tar front-end has seen > less effort in this area. > > Cheers, > > Tim > > On Jun 23, 2011, at 9:20 AM, Julian H. Stacey wrote: > > > FreeBSD tar has deficient error handling. I sent a fix 31 Jan 2011 > > http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=15440

tar has deficient error handling. send-pr fix sent 31 Jan 2011

FreeBSD tar has deficient error handling. I sent a fix 31 Jan 2011 http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=154407 Please commit the fix or write & commit a better fix. As error codes ignored, I wonder if other poor coding may lurk in tar. Might be nice if someone else would read thro

Re: /usr/share/calendar/calendar.british

"Julian H. Stacey" wrote: > Hi hack...@freebsd.org > Britain had a national holiday yesterday. FreeBSD didn't notice as no > /usr/share/calendar/calendar.british > Other countries have their dates listed, so I wrote src/ > http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/

/usr/share/calendar/calendar.british

Hi hack...@freebsd.org Britain had a national holiday yesterday. FreeBSD didn't notice as no /usr/share/calendar/calendar.british Other countries have their dates listed, so I wrote src/ http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=157466 If you'r British, or in Britain etc, please

Re: [GSoC] About the idea: Unicode support in vi

Zhihao Yuan wrote: > ed seems works, but it's not either vi or ex. > I'm not typically like ee... I sill wondering why we kept it in base > system. It does not work when termcap is not correct, so I still need > to use ed in such a case. Same thing happens to ex-vi. History: ee was added long

Re: man 3 getopt char * const argv[] - is const wrong ?

Bruce Cran wrote: > It seems registration is required for the SUS, but you can get > POSIX.1-2008 free at http://pubs.opengroup.org/onlinepubs/9699919799/ . Thanks Bruce. I browsed it but couldn't find a C spec. Opengroup.org server restricted the URL to a constant: http://pubs.opengroup

Re: memstick.img is bloated with 7% 2K blocks of nulls

Gary Jennejohn wrote: > On Tue, 15 Feb 2011 01:19:45 +0100 > "Julian H. Stacey" wrote: > > > Could author p...@freebsd.org cc'd (or someone else if they are clear) > > please explain what cmdline is ? > > Possibly commit an appended // comment after

Re: man 3 getopt char * const argv[] - is const wrong ?

> I understand the concerns about licensing, yet I see standards as > reference material, ISO products are not standard when ISO restricts access by charging fees so they're not freely distributable to all individual programmers for reference in free software developer communities. Only draft IS

Re: memstick.img is bloated with 7% 2K blocks of nulls

> But from the manual page: > > -f file > Filename to use for the vnode type memory disk. Options -a > and -t vnode are implied if not specified. > > So if you specify -f then you get -t vnode automatically. Ah yes. Reading src/sbin/mdconfig/mdconfig.c with your "mdconfig -a -f mfsroo

Re: man 3 getopt char * const argv[] - is const wrong ?

Matthias Andree wrote: > Am 13.02.2011 18:15, schrieb Julian H. Stacey: > > Hi, > > Thanks to all respondents, I'll re-read comments in a bit, > > I went searching for reference: > > > > Matthias wrote: > >> the prototype is in line with the Single

Re: man 3 getopt char * const argv[] - is const wrong ?

> Not quite what you asked for but this may help in making > sense of const > > $ cdecl # from /usr/ports/devel/cdecl Thanks Bakul, nice ! Cheers, Julian -- Julian Stacey, BSD Unix Linux C Sys Eng Consultants Munich http://berklix.com Mail plain text; Not quo

Re: man 3 getopt char * const argv[] - is const wrong ?

Hi, Thanks to all respondents, I'll re-read comments in a bit, I went searching for reference: Matthias wrote: > the prototype is in line with the Single Unix Specification v4 aka IEEE > Std. 1003.1-2008 (sorry no URL, I have checked my local copy, check > you can acces

man 3 getopt char * const argv[] - is const wrong ?

Hi Hackers Ref.: man 3 getopt int getopt(int argc, char * const argv[], const char *optstring); Ref.: K&R 2nd Ed P.211 last indent, 2nd sentence The purpose of const is to announce objjects that may be placed in read-only memory, and perhaps to increas opportunities

Re: memstick.img is bloated with 7% 2K blocks of nulls

Bruce Cran wrote: > On Sat, 12 Feb 2011 01:54:58 +0100 > "Julian H. Stacey" wrote: > > > -O filesystem-type > > Use 1 to specify that a UFS1 format file system be > > built; use 2 to specify that a UFS2 format file system be built. The >

Re: memstick.img is bloated with 7% 2K blocks of nulls

Bruce Cran wrote: > On Fri, 11 Feb 2011 20:09:30 +0100 > "Julian H. Stacey" wrote: > > > memstick.img wastes 7% with 2K blocks of nulls. > > Could this be due to using UFS1 instead of UFS2? Don't know, Looking: 8.1 /usr/src/release/scripts/make-memstick.sh m

Re: reverse of getchar() read() open() fopen() ?

Andrew Duane wrote: > I've never seen any such thing, but I've done similar things a > lot. I'd say malloc/read the whole file in and use a decrementing > pointer to return the "previous" character. Thanks, but I'll need a loop too, as malloc(filesize()) would be too big, as I omitted to say I'll

Re: reverse of getchar() read() open() fopen() ?

> Hi hackers@, > Do we have C libraries with reverse of getchar() [ & maybe read() > ] & fopen() [ & maybe open() ] etc, to read from end of file toward > beginning ? I dont see anything in the See Also sections. I'm not > looking to write, just read. I'm looking for something that returns > la

reverse of getchar() read() open() fopen() ?

Hi hackers@, Do we have C libraries with reverse of getchar() [ & maybe read() ] & fopen() [ & maybe open() ] etc, to read from end of file toward beginning ? I dont see anything in the See Also sections. I'm not looking to write, just read. I'm looking for something that returns last char in f

memstick.img is bloated with 7% 2K blocks of nulls

memstick.img wastes 7% with 2K blocks of nulls. shown by: 8f -b 0 -n 2048 -l -f Fr* http://berklix.com/~jhs/src/bsd/jhs/bin/public/8f/ 8f.c 8f.1 FreeBSD-8.1-RELEASE-amd64-bootonly.iso:543 FreeBSD-8.1-RELEASE-amd64-disc1.iso: 543

usr.bin/tar/ ignores error codes from read() just silently pads nulls

Hi hack...@freebsd.org & netbsd-us...@netbsd.org usr.bin/tar ignores device error codes from read() & silently pads nulls. See FreeBSD 6.2 6.4 7.3, 8.0, 8.1, & current src/usr.bin/tar/write.c NetBSD 5.1 & current src/external/bsd/libarchive/dist/tar/write.c ^write_file_data( la

Re: Why not give git a try? (was "Re: [head tinderbox] failure on amd64/amd64")

Hi, Alex > order to build the system. the VCS however is not part of the build toolchain > however (except 'make update' maybe). Some good points, but also remember make release also uses cvs grep CVS /usr/src/release/Makefile Cheers, Julian -- Julian Stacey, BSD Unix Linux C Sys Eng

Re: Why not give git a try? (was "Re: [head tinderbox] failure on amd64/amd64")

> They both support pretty much the same feature set; here's a cute but > dated comparison: > > http://importantshock.wordpress.com/2008/08/07/git-vs-mercurial/ http://wiki.freebsd.org/VersionControl Table of features comparing SVN HG GIT MTN http://wiki.freebsd.org/ section De

Re: Forward to abuse@ button for http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc5965

Thanks Clifton, most informative :-) Cheers, Julian -- Julian Stacey, BSD Unix Linux C Sys Eng Consultants Munich http://berklix.com Mail plain text; Not quoted-printable, or HTML or base 64. Avoid top posting, it cripples itemised cumulative responses. __

Forward to abuse@ button for http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc5965

o me: ] ] Date: Fri, 17 Dec 2010 13:44:15 -0800 ] To: "Julian H. Stacey" ] Subject: RE: File for your claim! (fwd) (KMM120695297V22240L0KM) ] From: Yahoo! Mail ] Reply-To: Yahoo! Mail ] MIME-Version: 1.0 ] Content-Type: text/plain; charset = "us-ascii" ] Content-Tra

international crypto laws

To quote 8.1-RELEASE/src/crypto/README ... The separation between src/contrib and src/crypto is the result of an old USA law, which made these sources export controlled, so they had to be kept separate. As international crypto laws are ever changing play things of i

Re: A simple and hopefully usable FreeBSD live CD

From: Tim Judd > I have, for longer than I can count, create my own livecds because the media > that's produced have a shortcoming for some reason or other. I automated my own build from sources (not .iso) of combined install + live CDROMs, a frighteningly long time ago: My top Makefile:

Re: real memory falsely reports 8G, BIOS & avail memory reports 1G

John Baldwin wrote: > On Monday, August 09, 2010 8:13:03 am Julian H. Stacey wrote: > > Hi hack...@freebsd.org > > A laptop here emits a puzzlingly dmesg to both 8.1-RC2 & 8.1-RELEASE: > > real memory = 8572108800 (8175 MB) > > avail memory = 1018789888 (971

Re: real memory falsely reports 8G, BIOS & avail memory reports 1G

> dmidecode --type memory # /usr/ports/sysutils/dmidecode/ > shows this laptop not returning good output, just > # dmidecode 2.10 > SMBIOS 2.3 present. > > Wrong DMI structures count: 43 announced, only 23 decoded. After cold reboot, though dmesg still weird: real memory =

Re: real memory falsely reports 8G, BIOS & avail memory reports 1G

Ref. http://berklix.com/~jhs/hardware/laptops/novatech-8355/ I wrote > > A laptop here emits a puzzlingly dmesg to both 8.1-RC2 & 8.1-RELEASE: > > real memory = 8572108800 (8175 MB) > > avail memory = 1018789888 (971 MB) > > BIOS reckons it has 1G. No panel to unscrew to inspect memory.

Re: real memory falsely reports 8G, BIOS & avail memory reports 1G

> A laptop here emits a puzzlingly dmesg to both 8.1-RC2 & 8.1-RELEASE: > real memory = 8572108800 (8175 MB) > avail memory = 1018789888 (971 MB) > BIOS reckons it has 1G. No panel to unscrew to inspect memory. > I don't beleive 8G. PS sysctl -a | grep mem vm.kmem_size_scale: 3 v

real memory falsely reports 8G, BIOS & avail memory reports 1G

Hi hack...@freebsd.org A laptop here emits a puzzlingly dmesg to both 8.1-RC2 & 8.1-RELEASE: real memory = 8572108800 (8175 MB) avail memory = 1018789888 (971 MB) BIOS reckons it has 1G. No panel to unscrew to inspect memory. I don't beleive 8G. If this is a bug in FreeBSD detect

Re: freebsd exokernel

> would it be a feasible project to borrow things from freebsd, and start a > project like this? anyone like this idea ?? The code is free to use :-) > anyway, just some thoughts for now.. See also eg Mach. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mach http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mach_%28ke

Re: tools/ directory is missing on recent install media.

Hi Ken, cc list Ken Smith wrote: > On Mon, 2010-07-12 at 17:38 +0200, Julian H. Stacey wrote: > > Hi Hackers, > > FreeBSD install media has lost the tools/ directory from recent CDs & DVD= > s: > >=20 > > Quoting > > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO88

Re: an alternative to powerpoint

Whoops I forgot cc hackers so resent. > > Haven't used it in years, but I liked it when I used ports/misc/magicpoint. > > been there, done that: > > http://info.iet.unipi.it/~luigi/mgpm/ > > cheers > luigi Hey That's nice Luigi ! Multicast mgpm ... Hmm so eg BSD tech groups could do presentati

Re: an alternative to powerpoint

John Nielsen wrote: > On Jul 13, 2010, at 11:48 AM, Ivan Voras wrote: > > > On 07/13/10 06:15, Luigi Rizzo wrote: > > > >> Have fun, it would be great if you could report how it works > >> on fancy devices (iphone, ipad, androids...) > > > > For what it's worth, it doesn't work at all on Android :

tools/ directory is missing on recent install media.

Hi Hackers, FreeBSD install media has lost the tools/ directory from recent CDs & DVDs: Quoting http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/install-pre.html ... to resize your partitions and make space for FreeBSD. The tools directory on the CDROM contains two free

Re: GSoC: BSD text tools

Re. half baked proposal to delete groff: If you want to play, play with Linux, which has no tradition of what to expect. BSD by contrast is real Unix, those who've been in Unix business a few decades you know what real Unix is. More than just the toolchain to support make world. Look at Bell bl

Re: GSoC: BSD text tools

Joerg Sonnenberger wrote: > The use of (g)roff for anything but man pages is practically non-existent. False. Its a production tool used here. http://berklix.com./associates/ http://www.berklix.com/~jhs/cv/#card ( Try .PS card back X3 size All business letters, bills, busine

Re: GSoC: BSD text tools

> I'll be working on replacing groff with mdocml (mandoc) in the system base No. Do not remove groff or associated tools from /usr/src ! Roff has been in Unix /usr/src since '77 or earlier. A lot of people use tools from that descendancy as production tools. However if you just mean "I'll

patch for /usr/src/usr.bin/fmt/ (not 8 bit clean) for German & French

Hi Hackers@ Problem: /usr/src/usr.bin/fmt/fmt.c is not 8 bit clean. (ie French or German etc text with accents in gets broken) Alternate Solutions: Solution 1: Discard "& 0x7f checks. Allow pretty much all 8 bit as a printable. This would need some patching. It might freak out some from

make clean fails to rm /usr/src/contrib/groff/src/include/defs.h

/usr/src/contrib/groff/src/include/defs.h From: "Julian H. Stacey" Reply-To: "Julian H. Stacey" Cc: jhs@@@berklix.com X-send-pr-version: 3.113 X-GNATS-Notify: >Submitter-Id: current-users >Originator:Julian H. Stacey >Organization: http://berklix.com BSD L

Re: /dev/null & zero inside chroot for make release

Hi, =?ISO-8859-15?Q?Tjado_M=E4cke?= wrote: > Am 13.05.2010 19:44, schrieb Julian H. Stacey: > > Hi Hackers, > > Problem with /dev/null & /dev/zero inside a chroot: > > I wanted to build a release from inside a chroot > > > > What sort of null &

Re: /dev/null & zero inside chroot for make release

Hi, Garrett Cooper wrote: > On May 13, 2010, at 2:06 PM, Jilles Tjoelker wrote: > > > On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 07:44:58PM +0200, Julian H. Stacey wrote: > >> Problem with /dev/null & /dev/zero inside a chroot: > >> I wanted to build a release from inside a chroot

Re: Custom USB layout & sysinstall (Starting FIXIT)

back. http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-hackers/2010-April/031534.html Subject: Bug with fixit live 8.0 memstick.img running on F1 after MBR From: "Julian H. Stacey" Date: Sat, 17 Apr 2010 12:05:46 +0200 To: hack...@freebsd.org Message-id: <201004171005.o3

/dev/null & zero inside chroot for make release

Hi Hackers, Problem with /dev/null & /dev/zero inside a chroot: I wanted to build a release from inside a chroot ( So /var/db/pkg matches what's required by make release, without changing packages on outside the chroot, + Also to experiment with http://lists.freebsd

Re: /sys/amd64/conf/GENERIC COMPAT_FREEBSD7 a prerequisite for COMPAT_IA32

Gary Jennejohn wrote: > "Julian H. Stacey" wrote: > > Gary Jennejohn wrote: > > > "Julian H. Stacey" wrote: > > > > > > > Hi hack...@freebsd.org > > > > with amd64, but not with i386, > > > > /sys/amd64/co

Re: Bug with fixit live 8.0 memstick.img running on F1 after MBR

Hi Ken, cc hackers@, re@ > On Wed, 2010-04-21 at 21:09 +0200, Julian H. Stacey wrote: > > Hi hackers@, > > No replies in over 4 days to this, so this is a repost,=20 > > I've also added re@ as newish memstick.img might interest them ? > > > (The live command

Re: /sys/amd64/conf/GENERIC COMPAT_FREEBSD7 a prerequisite for COMPAT_IA32

Hi Kostik, Kostik Belousov wrote: > On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 08:57:59PM +0200, Julian H. Stacey wrote: > > Hi hack...@freebsd.org > > with amd64, but not with i386, > > /sys/amd64/conf/GENERIC COMPAT_FREEBSD7 is an undocemneted > > pre-requisite for COMPAT_IA32 > >

Re: /sys/amd64/conf/GENERIC COMPAT_FREEBSD7 a prerequisite for COMPAT_IA32

Hi, Reference: > From: Gary Jennejohn > Reply-to: gary.jennej...@freenet.de > Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2010 11:14:40 +0200 > Message-id: <20100422111440.69a01...@ernst.jennejohn.org> Gary Jennejohn wrote: > On Wed, 21 Apr 2010 20:57:59 +0200 > &

Re: Bug with fixit live 8.0 memstick.img running on F1 after MBR

Hi hackers@, No replies in over 4 days to this, so this is a repost, I've also added re@ as newish memstick.img might interest them ? Reference: > From: "Julian H. Stacey" > Date: Sat, 17 Apr 2010 12:05:46 +0200 "Julian H. Stacey" wrote: >

/sys/amd64/conf/GENERIC COMPAT_FREEBSD7 a prerequisite for COMPAT_IA32

Hi hack...@freebsd.org with amd64, but not with i386, /sys/amd64/conf/GENERIC COMPAT_FREEBSD7 is an undocemneted pre-requisite for COMPAT_IA32 (so those who enable COMPAT_IA32 for ports/emulators, but disable COMPAT_FREEBSD7 as they compile all binaries on upgrade, will trip up on it as I did). Cu

Bug with fixit live 8.0 memstick.img running on F1 after MBR

Hi Hackers, Bug found with fixit live 8.0 memstick.img running on F1 after MBR : First I checked my PC BIOS boots OK: I copied 8.0-RELEASE-i386-memstick.img to a raw 2G USB stick, it boots fine, & one can go into fixit menu, using image on stick Next I fdisk partitioned an 8G stick & copied

Re: To sendmail or to postfix that is the question?

> I really wanted to use Sendmail as a friend knows Sendmail fairly well > and I have a Sendmail book, but what I am wanting is the ability to have > mail for virtual users, ie I might have 4 admin accounts, > ad...@domain1.com ad...@domain2.com ad...@domain3.com and > ad...@domain4.com and wan

Re: To sendmail or to postfix that is the question?

> > 3.1. POP / IMAP support? > about), Dovecot for POP3 and IMAP, and Roundcube for webmail. My servers use: - sendmail, I've not tried things such as qmail. One doesnt generally have to futz much with .cf files, (but its useful to look at & tweak the easy bits, even if some

kbdcontrol: how to get us.iso on ukbd & en.iso on atkbd ?

Hi hackers@ Am I missing something obvious, or is a bit more needed in man kbdcontrol ? /etc/rc.confkeymap="uk.iso.kbd" sets laptop internal keycaps to English OK, But What kbdcontrol[s] set an external USB keyboard (only) to eg American (or German etc), while leaving internal

Re: our little daemon abused as symbol of the evil

KAYVEN RIESE wrote: > Isn't what we are looking at here defamation of character?? Our beloved=20 > Daemon is being accused of browser history stealing! Yes, an abuse. Interesting skimming the article though, if heavy on the math. Earlier, ref: > From: Oliver Fromme > Message-id: <201002081220.o

Re: our little daemon abused as symbol of the evil

Hi, Sorry, for my last post, editing error jhs@ -- =?utf-8?Q?Dag-Erling_Sm=C3=B8rgrav?= wrote: > There is no need to register a trademark. Agreed, probably no Need, but there might be some benefit to some commercial interests. > Kirk owns the *copyright* to > the image, which is valid worl

Re: our little daemon abused as symbol of the evil

Hi, Reference: > From: =?utf-8?Q?Dag-Erling_Sm=C3=B8rgrav?= > Date: Tue, 09 Feb 2010 13:27:16 +0100 > Message-id: <86eikuk317@ds4.des.no> =?utf-8?Q?Dag-Erling_Sm=C3=B8rgrav?= wrote: > "Julian H. Stacey" writes: > > I asked someone who r

Re: our little daemon abused as symbol of the evil

Oliver Fromme wrote: > Ruben de Groot wrote: > > On Fri, Feb 05, 2010 at 08:05:10PM +0100, Julian H. Stacey typed: > > > PS an undefended trade mark loses its right to further defence or some > such, > > > (I'm not a lawyer). > > > > It's

Re: our little daemon abused as symbol of the evil

Hi Kirk, Christoph, Hackers, "Julian H. Stacey" wrote: > Kirk McKusick wrote: > > Thanks for the pointer. As you note, the damage (or benefit :-) is > > done. Still I have sent an email to the editor at Spiegel notifying > > them of my copyright in the hopes tha

Re: our little daemon abused as symbol of the evil

You might want to contact authors of that PDF paper too. In case, as my browser still is fails on URL I posted earlier: http://www.iseclab.org/papers/sonda-TR.pdf I'll send you an off list copy of what I downloaded earlier at 2nd Feb 18:14 TZ=GMT+01:00. > =-=-=-= > > Fro

Re: our little daemon abused as symbol of the evil

Christoph Kukulies wrote: > Look here: > > http://www.spiegel.de/fotostrecke/fotostrecke-51396-2.html ( Well spotted Christoph ! ) For those that don't read German, tracing back, Text article starts here http://www.spiegel.de/netzwelt/web/0,1518,675395,00.html That is in German,

limits for run away Firefox ?

Hi hackers I'm tired of my X server occasionaly freezing, swap thrasing, & firefox dumps: 4,346,937,344 ~/firefox-bin.core so as a temporary cludge I ran touch ~/firefox-bin.core ; chmod 000 ~/firefox-bin.core I could put X users in another group, & reduce limits, per man l

Re: sysinstall colours

> What sometimes bothers me a bit while using sysinstall is the long sequence > of > Yes/No questions at a certain moment ('do you want NFS server? do you want > NFS client? do you want anonymous FTP? do you want bridging? etc...). A > more logical user interface seems a list of configurab

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