Re: clock synchronization quality via NTP ?

2001-08-22 Thread Warner Losh
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Luigi Rizzo writes: : Is this the case ? And if so, what is the "fast interrupt hack" that you : are mentioning and how would it improve things ? Yes. I think so. We were measuring on a 5x86 at 133MHz, so the effect would be exagerated more. The hack that we did

Re: clock synchronization quality via NTP ?

2001-08-22 Thread Luigi Rizzo
> beyond "normal HVAC" and stock xtals on the motherboard. This is > after we've done the fast interrupt hack. Without it, the other > system activity was causing enough interrupt latncy variance that we > would see more like +- 80us with outliers way off in the weeds > (+- just under 10ms!). W

Re: clock synchronization quality via NTP ?

2001-08-22 Thread Warner Losh
In message <46651.998541806@critter> Poul-Henning Kamp writes: : In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Warner Losh writes: : : >: More precisely : is it reasonable to hope having a system clock not : >: farther from the GPS clock by more than 50 micro-seconds ? : : 50 microseconds should be feasible p

Re: clock synchronization quality via NTP ?

2001-08-22 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Warner Losh writes: >: More precisely : is it reasonable to hope having a system clock not >: farther from the GPS clock by more than 50 micro-seconds ? 50 microseconds should be feasible provided that you either provide a very stable temperature or replace the 14

Re: XMM[0-7] preserved across context switch?

2001-08-22 Thread Peter Wemm
David Malone wrote: > On Tue, Aug 21, 2001 at 11:27:38AM -0500, Kevin Day wrote: > > A quick peek at swtch.s seems to show that the SSE registers (XMM0-7) aren' t > > being preserved across context switches. Am I missing somewhere that's doin g > > this, or are they really not being saved

Re: Firewire driver available

2001-08-22 Thread Warner Losh
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Matthew Reimer writes: : I saw this on Freshmeat the other day: : http://www.sfc.wide.ad.jp/DVTS/ : Maybe someday it can be committed? Maybe. One problem with these patches are that they only do a certain type of firewire stuff. They treat the firewire devi

Mounting FAT16 on USB connected Rio 600

2001-08-22 Thread Andrew J Caines
Hackers, The overwhelming lack of response on -questions suggests I might do better here. I though this would be an easy one. In short, I simply want to know what device to mount and what to do get that device configured. I have a Rio 600 MP3 player connected via USB. The device is recognised

Re: clock synchronization quality via NTP ?

2001-08-22 Thread Warner Losh
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Wilko Bulte writes: : On Wed, Aug 22, 2001 at 09:47:34PM +0200, Thierry Herbelot wrote: : > Hello, : > : > I know FreeBSD can be used with great success for timing solutions (at : > least two core members do it ?). : > : > has someone some performance data of the q

Re: pci_get_devid()

2001-08-22 Thread Warner Losh
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> djohnson writes: : little application that gives a detailed enumeration of the PCI bus : using BIOS calls. Thanks in advance. PCI BUS ENUMERATION WITH BIOS CALLS SUCKS. Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in th

Re: clock synchronization quality via NTP ?

2001-08-22 Thread Warner Losh
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Thierry Herbelot writes: : I know FreeBSD can be used with great success for timing solutions (at : least two core members do it ?). Well, there's one core member, and a second committer. Or was until a few days ago... : has someone some performance data of the qu

RE: VM statistics per process?

2001-08-22 Thread Daniel O'Connor
On 22-Aug-2001 Anton Berezin wrote: > will provide me with the number of resident pages. But I'd like to be > able to also get the number of active and inactive pages belonging to a > particular process. What should I do in order to get this information? The mincore() system call does this

Re: tunable support for ata interrupt sharing

2001-08-22 Thread Warner Losh
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> S ren Schmidt writes: : and I dont know exactly how close 4.4 is to closure. My guess is that Jordan is going to wind up slipping the final release at least a week. But it is just a guess. Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe fr

Re: 4.4-RC NFS panic

2001-08-22 Thread Warner Losh
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: : I've been having similar problems with my 4.4-RC Vaio F807K whenever I : do a lot of NFS over my wi0 (Buffalo wireless card), every so often my : laptop just completely freezes. I think that might be due to a bug in the shared interrupt c

Re: ssh password cracker - now this *is* cool!

2001-08-22 Thread Greg Black
Alfred Perlstein wrote: | * Greg Black <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [010822 19:46] wrote: | > Matt Dillon wrote: | > | This gets an 'A' on my cool-o-meter. | > | | > | http://www.vnunet.com/News/1124839 | > | > The real research might be interesting, but the information in | > the article seems to

Re: ssh password cracker - now this *is* cool!

2001-08-22 Thread Alfred Perlstein
* Leo Bicknell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [010822 20:00] wrote: > On Wed, Aug 22, 2001 at 05:10:16PM -0700, Bruce A. Mah wrote: > > > Several people on other mailing lists have pointed out that Nagle > > > should make this much harder, although it's unclear how Nagle and > > > ssh interact. So far that

Re: ssh password cracker - now this *is* cool!

2001-08-22 Thread Leo Bicknell
On Wed, Aug 22, 2001 at 05:10:16PM -0700, Bruce A. Mah wrote: > > Several people on other mailing lists have pointed out that Nagle > > should make this much harder, although it's unclear how Nagle and > > ssh interact. So far that has resulted in a number of degenerating > > discussions of how t

Re: ssh password cracker - now this *is* cool!

2001-08-22 Thread Alfred Perlstein
* Greg Black <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [010822 19:46] wrote: > Matt Dillon wrote: > > | This gets an 'A' on my cool-o-meter. > | > | http://www.vnunet.com/News/1124839 > > The real research might be interesting, but the information in > the article seems to be wrong. It says: > > Each k

Re: ssh password cracker - now this *is* cool!

2001-08-22 Thread Greg Black
Matt Dillon wrote: | This gets an 'A' on my cool-o-meter. | | http://www.vnunet.com/News/1124839 The real research might be interesting, but the information in the article seems to be wrong. It says: Each keystroke from a user is immediately sent to the target machine as a s

Re: ssh password cracker - now this *is* cool!

2001-08-22 Thread Bruce A. Mah
If memory serves me right, Leo Bicknell wrote: > On Wed, Aug 22, 2001 at 04:30:30PM -0700, Matt Dillon wrote: > > http://www.vnunet.com/News/1124839 > > Several people on other mailing lists have pointed out that Nagle > should make this much harder, although it's unclear how Nagle and > ssh

Re: ssh password cracker - now this *is* cool!

2001-08-22 Thread Leo Bicknell
On Wed, Aug 22, 2001 at 04:30:30PM -0700, Matt Dillon wrote: > http://www.vnunet.com/News/1124839 Several people on other mailing lists have pointed out that Nagle should make this much harder, although it's unclear how Nagle and ssh interact. So far that has resulted in a number of degene

Re: ssh password cracker - now this *is* cool!

2001-08-22 Thread Mark Hittinger
> > Yah, and typing backspaces also ought to work. 12345bb45bb45678b8 > How about some control-Q's? :-) Later Mark Hittinger Earthlink [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message

Re: ssh password cracker - now this *is* cool!

2001-08-22 Thread Matt Dillon
: :* Matt Dillon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [010822 18:30] wrote: :> This gets an 'A' on my cool-o-meter. :> :> http://www.vnunet.com/News/1124839 : :Interesting, I guess one could work around it by periodically :sending bogus empty packets in the middle of activity. : :-- :-Alfred Perlstein

Re: ssh password cracker - now this *is* cool!

2001-08-22 Thread Alfred Perlstein
* Matt Dillon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [010822 18:30] wrote: > This gets an 'A' on my cool-o-meter. > > http://www.vnunet.com/News/1124839 Interesting, I guess one could work around it by periodically sending bogus empty packets in the middle of activity. -- -Alfred Perlstein [[EMAIL PROT

ssh password cracker - now this *is* cool!

2001-08-22 Thread Matt Dillon
This gets an 'A' on my cool-o-meter. http://www.vnunet.com/News/1124839 -Matt To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message

Firewire driver available

2001-08-22 Thread Matthew Reimer
I saw this on Freshmeat the other day: http://www.sfc.wide.ad.jp/DVTS/ Maybe someday it can be committed? Matt To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message

Re: [PATCH] install -s -s(trip-me-harder)

2001-08-22 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Wed, Aug 22, 2001 at 09:26:44AM -0700, David O'Brien wrote: > On Wed, Aug 22, 2001 at 01:40:07AM -0700, Kris Kennaway wrote: > > > Getting rid of .note[.ABI-tag] will interfere with ELF branding. > > > > How will it do so? > > This is the ELF ABI standard-approved way of doing ELF branding: >

Re: Where to put new bus_dmamap_load_mbuf() code

2001-08-22 Thread Bill Paul
> >Maybe, but bus_dmamap_load() only lets you map one buffer at a time. > >I want to map a bunch of little buffers, and the API doesn't let me > >do that. And I don't want to change the API, because that would mean > >modifying busdma_machdep.c on each platform, which is a hell that I > >would ra

ports/lang/gcc{-devel,30}

2001-08-22 Thread Carlo Dapor
Dear hackers Can somebody shed a light on the two ports ? At first sight, they seem very similar. Are there plans to update them ? They both are based on a snapshot dated April 30th, 2001. Any hints are appreciated. Ciao, derweil, -- Carlo To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] wi

Re: Where to put new bus_dmamap_load_mbuf() code

2001-08-22 Thread Justin T. Gibbs
> >> The fact that the data is less than a page in size matters little >> to the bus dma concept. In other words, how is this packet presented >> to the hardware? Does it care that all of the component pieces are >> < PAGE_SIZE in length? Probably not. It just wants the list of >> address/leng

Re: Where to put new bus_dmamap_load_mbuf() code

2001-08-22 Thread Bill Paul
> The fact that the data is less than a page in size matters little > to the bus dma concept. In other words, how is this packet presented > to the hardware? Does it care that all of the component pieces are > < PAGE_SIZE in length? Probably not. It just wants the list of > address/length pai

Re: Where to put new bus_dmamap_load_mbuf() code

2001-08-22 Thread Justin T. Gibbs
>> >My understanding is that you need a dmamap for every buffer that you want >> >to map into bus space. >> >> You need one dmamap for each independantly manageable mapping. A >> single mapping may result in a long list of segments, regardless >> of whether you have a single KVA buffer or multip

Re: Where to put new bus_dmamap_load_mbuf() code

2001-08-22 Thread Bill Paul
> >My understanding is that you need a dmamap for every buffer that you want > >to map into bus space. > > You need one dmamap for each independantly manageable mapping. A > single mapping may result in a long list of segments, regardless > of whether you have a single KVA buffer or multiple KVA

pci_get_devid()

2001-08-22 Thread djohnson
A list member refered me to PCI_ACCESSOR in pcivar.h for the solution. Thanks W.S. To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message

Re: clock synchronization quality via NTP ?

2001-08-22 Thread Wilko Bulte
On Wed, Aug 22, 2001 at 09:47:34PM +0200, Thierry Herbelot wrote: > Hello, > > I know FreeBSD can be used with great success for timing solutions (at > least two core members do it ?). > > has someone some performance data of the quality of system clock > synchronization, while using NTPd with a

Re: pci_get_devid()

2001-08-22 Thread Weiguang SHI
Take a look at PCI_ACCESSOR in "pcivar.h" Good Luck Weiguang >From: djohnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: pci_get_devid() >Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2001 14:22:52 -0600 > >I'm doing some PCI related code and keep running into the >function/method pci_get_devid() in FreeBSD source

pci_get_devid()

2001-08-22 Thread djohnson
I'm doing some PCI related code and keep running into the function/method pci_get_devid() in FreeBSD source files (like pcisupport.c). A couple of us have looked for this function in our systems and can't seem to find it. Can anyone tell me where I can find the source for pci_get_devid()? By th

struct module

2001-08-22 Thread Sansonetti Laurent
Hi hackers, First of all thank to all people who help me, my KLD module is almost finished. I have however a small question : why the module structure is definied in /sys/kern/kern_module.c and not in ? I'm sure this question has a stupid answer.. ;-) Bye, and thanks in advance for your answe

clock synchronization quality via NTP ?

2001-08-22 Thread Thierry Herbelot
Hello, I know FreeBSD can be used with great success for timing solutions (at least two core members do it ?). has someone some performance data of the quality of system clock synchronization, while using NTPd with a GPS reveiver and a hard 1PPS signal ? More precisely : is it reasonable to hop

Re: VM statistics per process?

2001-08-22 Thread Anton Berezin
On Wed, Aug 22, 2001 at 01:24:20PM -0500, Alfred Perlstein wrote: > * Anton Berezin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [010822 12:47] wrote: > > On Wed, Aug 22, 2001 at 12:39:26PM -0500, Alfred Perlstein wrote: > > > getrusage(2) > > That's not quite it - it does not provide the statistics of what > > number o

vmware under freebsd-4.3

2001-08-22 Thread Joel Jacobson
i can get vmware to start, but it seems to be having emotional problems getting networking up and running. it gets as far as finding the vmnet device, but ends up sending an unsupported ioctl: linux: 'ioctl' fd=22, cmd=8940 ('\M^I',64) not implemented if i turn networking off, vmware works fi

Re: VM statistics per process?

2001-08-22 Thread Alfred Perlstein
* Anton Berezin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [010822 12:47] wrote: > On Wed, Aug 22, 2001 at 12:39:26PM -0500, Alfred Perlstein wrote: > > * Anton Berezin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [010822 10:40] wrote: > > > > The problem is that the required data are only available globally, > > > and I need it for a given pr

Re: tunable support for ata interrupt sharing

2001-08-22 Thread Brooks Davis
On Tue, Aug 21, 2001 at 09:41:50PM +0200, Søren Schmidt wrote: > I have just today committed always sharing all irq's to -current, > the consensus is that if the BIOS allows sharing it should work. > This makes sense, the MB maker is the only one that knows if > this is working, if they blow it i

Re: VM statistics per process?

2001-08-22 Thread Anton Berezin
On Wed, Aug 22, 2001 at 12:39:26PM -0500, Alfred Perlstein wrote: > * Anton Berezin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [010822 10:40] wrote: > > The problem is that the required data are only available globally, > > and I need it for a given process. > > > > Some of the values I am interested in are available

Re: VM statistics per process?

2001-08-22 Thread Alfred Perlstein
* Anton Berezin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [010822 10:40] wrote: > Hi, > > As a part of a little project studying the perfomance of different > malloc(3) implementations I need to gather certain VM statistics. > > The problem is that the required data are only available globally, and I > need it for a

Ringtones and Logos

2001-08-22 Thread Mobile Ringtones
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Re: 4.4-RC NFS panic

2001-08-22 Thread Walter C. Pelissero
Warner Losh writes: > After talking with Ian Dowse, I think that we've hammered out what may > cause this. Basically, the problem is I'm afraid your patch didn't fix the problem on my laptop. It certainly changed the behaviour and the system doesn't crash any more, but I'm almost unable to

Re: [PATCH] install -s -s(trip-me-harder)

2001-08-22 Thread David O'Brien
On Wed, Aug 22, 2001 at 01:40:07AM -0700, Kris Kennaway wrote: > > Getting rid of .note[.ABI-tag] will interfere with ELF branding. > > How will it do so? This is the ELF ABI standard-approved way of doing ELF branding: Section Headers: [Nr] Name TypeAddr OffSiz

VM statistics per process?

2001-08-22 Thread Anton Berezin
Hi, As a part of a little project studying the perfomance of different malloc(3) implementations I need to gather certain VM statistics. The problem is that the required data are only available globally, and I need it for a given process. Some of the values I am interested in are available from

Re: How to make bootable disk boot images with vn device?

2001-08-22 Thread Bernd Walter
On Tue, Aug 21, 2001 at 09:41:34PM +0200, Andre Oppermann wrote: > # dd if=/dev/zero of=mfsroot bs=1k count=25000 > # vnconfig -e -s labels vn0 mfsroot > # disklabel -r -w vn0 auto > # newfs /dev/vn0c > # mount and cp blabla You need to disklabel -B vn0 to install boot blocks. And you should

Re: tunable support for ata interrupt sharing

2001-08-22 Thread Søren Schmidt
It seems Peter Pentchev wrote: > > I have just today committed always sharing all irq's to -current, > > the consensus is that if the BIOS allows sharing it should work. > > This makes sense, the MB maker is the only one that knows if > > this is working, if they blow it in thier BIOS, well >

Re: tunable support for ata interrupt sharing

2001-08-22 Thread Peter Pentchev
On Tue, Aug 21, 2001 at 09:41:50PM +0200, Søren Schmidt wrote: > It seems Brooks Davis wrote: > > Attached it a patch to make sharing of the main ata control interrupts > > dependent on a tunable, hw.ata.shared_irqs. This is required for my new > > HP Omnibook 500 to use the CMD 648 in the expans

problems problems ...

2001-08-22 Thread Milos Marceta
Respectiful Gentlemans, I have next problem : I have Siemens Gigaset 3070 ISDN External USB modem. My box is running FreeBSD 4.2 on Intel Pentium III. When I boot the OS, it detects it on /dev/ugen0 ... When I put ugen0 in /etc/ppp/ppp.conf and run it, my OS reboots with kernel trap error. On

Re: [PATCH] install -s -s(trip-me-harder)

2001-08-22 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Wed, Aug 22, 2001 at 12:42:50AM -0700, David O'Brien wrote: > On Mon, Aug 20, 2001 at 12:16:54AM -0700, Kris Kennaway wrote: > > + execlp("strip", "strip", "-s", "-R", ".comment", > > + "-R", ".note", "-N", "gcc2_compiled", > > Getting rid of .note[.A

Re: Any ATAPI gurus out there?

2001-08-22 Thread Søren Schmidt
It seems Jim Bryant wrote: (please wrap lines at max 70 chars) > My friend, whom I am trying to teach unix [4.3-stable] was having some > problems on his secondary ATAPI bus. A Creative CD-ROM was > the master, a HP burner was the slave. > > The CD-ROM was having data dropouts, and was due t

Re: Recommendation for minor KVM adjustments for the release

2001-08-22 Thread Terry Lambert
Julian Elischer wrote: > > Are you actually going ahead with the PAE support? > > > > Will this be a compile-time option, so that it can be > > turned off? > > > > I considered doing the same, about 4 months ago but it's not > > like I could use the additional memory for mbufs, sockets, or > > oth

Re: [PATCH] install -s -s(trip-me-harder)

2001-08-22 Thread David O'Brien
On Mon, Aug 20, 2001 at 12:16:54AM -0700, Kris Kennaway wrote: > + execlp("strip", "strip", "-s", "-R", ".comment", > +"-R", ".note", "-N", "gcc2_compiled", Getting rid of .note[.ABI-tag] will interfere with ELF branding. -- -- David ([EMAIL PROT