RE: CS Project

1999-09-08 Thread Jason Young
Some further thoughts before I doze off: > > allowed to. This should be controlled by sysctls like > (placement based > > on nfs and ffs sysctl placement precedent): > > Or even a mount option to procfs :) After some thought, I think the mount option idea is best. I hadn't thought of that befo

RE: X mailers (was Re: ANNOUNCE: Linux ABI/SDK standards for OpenGL/Mesa)

1999-09-08 Thread Gennady Sorokopud
Hi! On 09-Sep-99 Andrew Reilly wrote: > XFMail isn't acceptable, because I've got 130M of mbox mail > boxes in a deep directory hierarchy, and I'd like to keep them > that way. The last time I looked at XFMail it insisted on an > un-nested mh-directory style of mailbox. Is it still the case? Nope

RE: CS Project

1999-09-08 Thread Jason Young
> > I think the idea (of a procfs ps) was shot down on the > lists some time > > ago because ps needs to retain the ability to look at > the process list > > in a kernel coredump. IMHO that's a lot of messy kvm > groveling and > > associated kernel-to-userland sync dependencies, just to > cate

RE: CS Project

1999-09-08 Thread Daniel O'Connor
On 09-Sep-99 Jason Young wrote: > > Hack ps and turn off procfs :) > I would think it more appropriate to adjust procfs' permissions in the > kernel such that a user couldn't look at processes they don't own, > i.e., can't cd or look into /proc/$PIDTHEYDONTOWN. Adding group-read > for wheel or

RE: CS Project

1999-09-08 Thread Jason Young
> -Original Message- > From: owner-freebsd-hack...@freebsd.org > [mailto:owner-freebsd-hack...@freebsd.org]on Behalf Of > Daniel O'Connor > Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 1999 9:05 PM > To: Gustavo V G C Rios > Cc: freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG; ch...@calldei.com > Subject: Re: CS Project >

Sangoma Wanpipe

1999-09-08 Thread Eric A. Griff
Hi all, Sort of off topic, though thought it might bring about some positive response and ideas here... I've successfully avoided a Cisco solution (though not the ADC kentrox one =( ) recently with the Sangoma Wanpipe using FreeBSD 3.2-STABLE (cvsupped last week). Time permitting,

RE: CS Project

1999-09-08 Thread Daniel O'Connor
On 09-Sep-99 Jason Young wrote: > After some thought, I think the mount option idea is best. I hadn't > thought of that before. One might want to apply different procfs > security policies to different mounts of procfs, especially in a > jail() situation. Good call. Yeah, you'd have to make

RE: CS Project

1999-09-08 Thread Jason Young
Some further thoughts before I doze off: > > allowed to. This should be controlled by sysctls like > (placement based > > on nfs and ffs sysctl placement precedent): > > Or even a mount option to procfs :) After some thought, I think the mount option idea is best. I hadn't thought of that bef

RE: X mailers (was Re: ANNOUNCE: Linux ABI/SDK standards for OpenGL/Mesa)

1999-09-08 Thread Gennady Sorokopud
Hi! On 09-Sep-99 Andrew Reilly wrote: > XFMail isn't acceptable, because I've got 130M of mbox mail > boxes in a deep directory hierarchy, and I'd like to keep them > that way. The last time I looked at XFMail it insisted on an > un-nested mh-directory style of mailbox. Is it still the case? Nop

Re: 32+ signals and library versions

1999-09-08 Thread Marcel Moolenaar
Dmitrij Tejblum wrote: > > > Another issue when sigset_t changes is the version numbers of shared > > libraries. Since libc and libc_r have changed on the interface level, they > > need a version bump. > > I suggest to try to avoid the version bump. NetBSD-like way to do it: > Give new implementa

RE: CS Project

1999-09-08 Thread Jason Young
> > I think the idea (of a procfs ps) was shot down on the > lists some time > > ago because ps needs to retain the ability to look at > the process list > > in a kernel coredump. IMHO that's a lot of messy kvm > groveling and > > associated kernel-to-userland sync dependencies, just to > cat

RE: CS Project

1999-09-08 Thread Daniel O'Connor
On 09-Sep-99 Jason Young wrote: > > Hack ps and turn off procfs :) > I would think it more appropriate to adjust procfs' permissions in the > kernel such that a user couldn't look at processes they don't own, > i.e., can't cd or look into /proc/$PIDTHEYDONTOWN. Adding group-read > for wheel o

RE: CS Project

1999-09-08 Thread Jason Young
> -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of > Daniel O'Connor > Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 1999 9:05 PM > To: Gustavo V G C Rios > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: CS Project > > > > On 09-Sep-99 Gustavo V G C Rios wro

Sangoma Wanpipe

1999-09-08 Thread Eric A. Griff
Hi all, Sort of off topic, though thought it might bring about some positive response and ideas here... I've successfully avoided a Cisco solution (though not the ADC kentrox one =( ) recently with the Sangoma Wanpipe using FreeBSD 3.2-STABLE (cvsupped last week). Time permitting,

Re: X mailers (was Re: ANNOUNCE: Linux ABI/SDK standards for OpenGL/Mesa)

1999-09-08 Thread Amancio Hasty
Hi Nate, Somewhere , theres got to be a nice little email place where Unix people can talk about usability and ease of software. Have Fun Guys -- Amancio Hasty ha...@rah.star-gate.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majord...@freebsd.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the

Re: 32+ signals and library versions

1999-09-08 Thread Marcel Moolenaar
Dmitrij Tejblum wrote: > > > Another issue when sigset_t changes is the version numbers of shared > > libraries. Since libc and libc_r have changed on the interface level, they > > need a version bump. > > I suggest to try to avoid the version bump. NetBSD-like way to do it: > Give new implement

Re: X mailers (was Re: ANNOUNCE: Linux ABI/SDK standards for OpenGL/Mesa)

1999-09-08 Thread Amancio Hasty
Hi Nate, Somewhere , theres got to be a nice little email place where Unix people can talk about usability and ease of software. Have Fun Guys -- Amancio Hasty [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of th

Re: X mailers (was Re: ANNOUNCE: Linux ABI/SDK standards for OpenGL/Mesa)

1999-09-08 Thread Nate Williams
> Nate: it's a while since I looked at VM on XEmacs. I found its > layout cluttered and it's key sequences awkward. How configurable > is it, really? Do you use it as it comes out of the box? Really configurable, and no, I don't use it in an out-of-the-box configuration. I remap many of the ke

Re: message queues for I/O (usenix paper)

1999-09-08 Thread Jayson Nordwick
thank for the pointers to the mailing list... very enlightening. I am going to try to write up an API for it this weekend with some cooperation with others. I will then give it a first pass around the freebsd-hackers and linux-kernl mailing lists. There are a few unanswered questions as to what a

Re: X mailers (was Re: ANNOUNCE: Linux ABI/SDK standards for OpenGL/Mesa)

1999-09-08 Thread Nate Williams
> Nate: it's a while since I looked at VM on XEmacs. I found its > layout cluttered and it's key sequences awkward. How configurable > is it, really? Do you use it as it comes out of the box? Really configurable, and no, I don't use it in an out-of-the-box configuration. I remap many of the k

New(bus|pnp)-ifyed joy(4)

1999-09-08 Thread Takanori Watanabe
Hi, I write patch for joy.c so that it recognize CS4235 Game port by PnP. API do work,but hardware seems to be uninitialized. (Read returns only 0x8000) Are there any person who review this? To use PnP Interface, write simply device joy0 and add your GAME port ID to joy_ids[]; Takanori Wat

Re: message queues for I/O (usenix paper)

1999-09-08 Thread Jayson Nordwick
thank for the pointers to the mailing list... very enlightening. I am going to try to write up an API for it this weekend with some cooperation with others. I will then give it a first pass around the freebsd-hackers and linux-kernl mailing lists. There are a few unanswered questions as to what

Re: message queues for I/O (usenix paper)

1999-09-08 Thread Jonathan Lemon
On Sep 09, 1999 at 06:49:46PM -0700, Jayson Nordwick wrote: > >Yes. I don't particularly like some of the things in the paper, > >although it does have several good concepts. I have an implementation > >that does exactly this, and have a line on two other implementations > >that do the same thing

Re: CS Project

1999-09-08 Thread Chuck Robey
On Wed, 8 Sep 1999, Gustavo V G C Rios wrote: > Dear gentleman, > > i am a computer science student, and this semester i had to began my > project to get graduated. After looking for some interesting topics on > many sources, one rised up: > Privacity on Shared Environments. > > My ideia is to a

Re: Current Development Branches

1999-09-08 Thread Chris Costello
On Wed, Sep 08, 1999, Anthony Rubin wrote: > I know I will probably be shunned for the rest of my natural life for > suggesting this, but here goes. How difficult would it be to change things > around a little with the development branches? It seems there are a few > problems with 3.3-RC (includi

X mailers (was Re: ANNOUNCE: Linux ABI/SDK standards for OpenGL/Mesa)

1999-09-08 Thread Andrew Reilly
On Wed, Sep 08, 1999 at 05:43:17PM -0700, Amancio Hasty wrote: > > 3. Needlessly cross-posted (watch your cc lines, loser! :). > > On a different topic, does anyone know of a good X mailer > (currently I am using exmh) : There aren't any. :-) (depends on your value of "good") > 1. user friend

Re: CS Project

1999-09-08 Thread Daniel O'Connor
On 09-Sep-99 Gustavo V G C Rios wrote: > > I would be able to see any other proccess which i am not the owner, top > > would not be (there was a mistaken in the sentece above, it was > in lack of "not" ) > > > would indicated, only 8 proccess, for this current scen

Re: CS Project

1999-09-08 Thread Chris Costello
On Wed, Sep 08, 1999, Gustavo V G C Rios wrote: > I would be able to see any other proccess which i am not the owner, top > would indicated, only 8 proccess, for this current scenario. > > do you understand now, what i meant? > > Linux already have such a facility! I don't believe such a faci

Re: CS Project

1999-09-08 Thread Gustavo V G C Rios
Gustavo V G C Rios wrote: > > After changes made by me: > > > I would be able to see any other proccess which i am not the owner, top would not be (there was a mistaken in the sentece above, it was in lack of "not" ) > would indicated, only 8 proccess, for this curre

New(bus|pnp)-ifyed joy(4)

1999-09-08 Thread Takanori Watanabe
Hi, I write patch for joy.c so that it recognize CS4235 Game port by PnP. API do work,but hardware seems to be uninitialized. (Read returns only 0x8000) Are there any person who review this? To use PnP Interface, write simply device joy0 and add your GAME port ID to joy_ids[]; Takanori Wa

Re: CS Project

1999-09-08 Thread Gustavo V G C Rios
Chris Costello wrote: > > On Wed, Sep 08, 1999, Gustavo V G C Rios wrote: > > Dear gentleman, > > > One clear example: > > No user(but only that ones previous allowed to) should be able to see > > other users process. This facility have to be done at kernel level, > > (that's what i think). > >

Re: message queues for I/O (usenix paper)

1999-09-08 Thread Jayson Nordwick
>Yes. I don't particularly like some of the things in the paper, >although it does have several good concepts. I have an implementation >that does exactly this, and have a line on two other implementations >that do the same thing (but in a different fashion). Unfortunately, >all of these are so

Re: message queues for I/O (usenix paper)

1999-09-08 Thread Justin C. Walker
> From: Jayson Nordwick > Date: 1999-09-08 17:38:56 -0700 > To: freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG > Subject: message queues for I/O (usenix paper) > Content-id: <66138.93683747...@scam.xcf.berkeley.edu> > Delivered-to: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org > X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > There is alot of talk going on

Current Development Branches

1999-09-08 Thread Anthony Rubin
I know I will probably be shunned for the rest of my natural life for suggesting this, but here goes. How difficult would it be to change things around a little with the development branches? It seems there are a few problems with 3.3-RC (including determining what RC means) and this makes it har

Re: CS Project

1999-09-08 Thread Chris Costello
On Wed, Sep 08, 1999, Gustavo V G C Rios wrote: > Dear gentleman, > One clear example: > No user(but only that ones previous allowed to) should be able to see > other users process. This facility have to be done at kernel level, > (that's what i think). Define "see". Access the memory? See t

Re: ANNOUNCE: Linux ABI/SDK standards for OpenGL/Mesa (fwd)

1999-09-08 Thread Amancio Hasty
> How about xf and use procmail for filtering? > Tnks I will give xf a try and will look around a bit more . If don't find anything real neat I will probably roll out my own. Tnks Again! -- Amancio Hasty ha...@rah.star-gate.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majord...@freebsd.org

Re: ANNOUNCE: Linux ABI/SDK standards for OpenGL/Mesa (fwd)

1999-09-08 Thread James C. Durham
How about xf and use procmail for filtering? -- Jim Durham To Unsubscribe: send mail to majord...@freebsd.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message

Re: message queues for I/O (usenix paper)

1999-09-08 Thread Jonathan Lemon
On Sep 09, 1999 at 06:49:46PM -0700, Jayson Nordwick wrote: > >Yes. I don't particularly like some of the things in the paper, > >although it does have several good concepts. I have an implementation > >that does exactly this, and have a line on two other implementations > >that do the same thin

Re: CS Project

1999-09-08 Thread Chuck Robey
On Wed, 8 Sep 1999, Gustavo V G C Rios wrote: > Dear gentleman, > > i am a computer science student, and this semester i had to began my > project to get graduated. After looking for some interesting topics on > many sources, one rised up: > Privacity on Shared Environments. > > My ideia is to

Re: Current Development Branches

1999-09-08 Thread Chris Costello
On Wed, Sep 08, 1999, Anthony Rubin wrote: > I know I will probably be shunned for the rest of my natural life for > suggesting this, but here goes. How difficult would it be to change things > around a little with the development branches? It seems there are a few > problems with 3.3-RC (includ

X mailers (was Re: ANNOUNCE: Linux ABI/SDK standards for OpenGL/Mesa)

1999-09-08 Thread Andrew Reilly
On Wed, Sep 08, 1999 at 05:43:17PM -0700, Amancio Hasty wrote: > > 3. Needlessly cross-posted (watch your cc lines, loser! :). > > On a different topic, does anyone know of a good X mailer > (currently I am using exmh) : There aren't any. :-) (depends on your value of "good") > 1. user frien

Re: ANNOUNCE: Linux ABI/SDK standards for OpenGL/Mesa (fwd)

1999-09-08 Thread Nate Williams
> > 3. Needlessly cross-posted (watch your cc lines, loser! :). > > On a different topic, does anyone know of a good X mailer > (currently I am using exmh) : > > 1. user friendly > 2. filtering capability > 3. thread topic support XEmacs + VM works very well for me, but Emacsen have a fairly la

Re: CS Project

1999-09-08 Thread Daniel O'Connor
On 09-Sep-99 Gustavo V G C Rios wrote: > > I would be able to see any other proccess which i am not the owner, top > > would not be (there was a mistaken in the sentece above, it was > in lack of "not" ) > > > would indicated, only 8 proccess, for this current sce

Re: CS Project

1999-09-08 Thread Chris Costello
On Wed, Sep 08, 1999, Gustavo V G C Rios wrote: > I would be able to see any other proccess which i am not the owner, top > would indicated, only 8 proccess, for this current scenario. > > do you understand now, what i meant? > > Linux already have such a facility! I don't believe such a fac

Re: CS Project

1999-09-08 Thread Gustavo V G C Rios
Gustavo V G C Rios wrote: > > After changes made by me: > > > I would be able to see any other proccess which i am not the owner, top would not be (there was a mistaken in the sentece above, it was in lack of "not" ) > would indicated, only 8 proccess, for this curr

Re: message queues for I/O (usenix paper)

1999-09-08 Thread Jonathan Lemon
In article you write: >There is alot of talk going on over at the linux-kernel mailing list >about implementing synchronous messaging for I/O. They are talking about >a paper that was presented at USENIX: > > http://www.cs.rice.edu/~gaurav/papers/usenix99.ps > >The general idea is that select(

Re: CS Project

1999-09-08 Thread Gustavo V G C Rios
Chris Costello wrote: > > On Wed, Sep 08, 1999, Gustavo V G C Rios wrote: > > Dear gentleman, > > > One clear example: > > No user(but only that ones previous allowed to) should be able to see > > other users process. This facility have to be done at kernel level, > > (that's what i think). > >

CS Project

1999-09-08 Thread Gustavo V G C Rios
Dear gentleman, i am a computer science student, and this semester i had to began my project to get graduated. After looking for some interesting topics on many sources, one rised up: Privacity on Shared Environments. My ideia is to add system facilities to improve privacity for users on shared e

Re: message queues for I/O (usenix paper)

1999-09-08 Thread Jayson Nordwick
>Yes. I don't particularly like some of the things in the paper, >although it does have several good concepts. I have an implementation >that does exactly this, and have a line on two other implementations >that do the same thing (but in a different fashion). Unfortunately, >all of these are s

Re: message queues for I/O (usenix paper)

1999-09-08 Thread Justin C. Walker
> From: Jayson Nordwick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: 1999-09-08 17:38:56 -0700 > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: message queues for I/O (usenix paper) > Content-id: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Delivered-to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > There is alot of talk going on over at the linux-kern

Current Development Branches

1999-09-08 Thread Anthony Rubin
I know I will probably be shunned for the rest of my natural life for suggesting this, but here goes. How difficult would it be to change things around a little with the development branches? It seems there are a few problems with 3.3-RC (including determining what RC means) and this makes it ha

Re: ANNOUNCE: Linux ABI/SDK standards for OpenGL/Mesa (fwd)

1999-09-08 Thread Amancio Hasty
> 3. Needlessly cross-posted (watch your cc lines, loser! :). On a different topic, does anyone know of a good X mailer (currently I am using exmh) : 1. user friendly 2. filtering capability 3. thread topic support Kind of like Netscape's mail reader however I hate to bring up netscape to just

Re: CS Project

1999-09-08 Thread Chris Costello
On Wed, Sep 08, 1999, Gustavo V G C Rios wrote: > Dear gentleman, > One clear example: > No user(but only that ones previous allowed to) should be able to see > other users process. This facility have to be done at kernel level, > (that's what i think). Define "see". Access the memory? See

message queues for I/O (usenix paper)

1999-09-08 Thread Jayson Nordwick
There is alot of talk going on over at the linux-kernel mailing list about implementing synchronous messaging for I/O. They are talking about a paper that was presented at USENIX: http://www.cs.rice.edu/~gaurav/papers/usenix99.ps The general idea is that select() and poll() fall over with larg

Re: ANNOUNCE: Linux ABI/SDK standards for OpenGL/Mesa (fwd)

1999-09-08 Thread Amancio Hasty
> > Nice Idea however wrong operating system. The losers should > > have done it for FreeBSD instead of linux. > 2. Irrelevant (what gets done for Linux by XFree86 et all gets to FreeBSD >pretty quickly) What gets done by XFree86 is not relevant . What is relevant in the context of developi

Re: ANNOUNCE: Linux ABI/SDK standards for OpenGL/Mesa (fwd)

1999-09-08 Thread Amancio Hasty
> How about xf and use procmail for filtering? > Tnks I will give xf a try and will look around a bit more . If don't find anything real neat I will probably roll out my own. Tnks Again! -- Amancio Hasty [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "un

How to follow child process in gdb

1999-09-08 Thread Zhihui Zhang
On Wed, 8 Sep 1999, Kip Macy wrote: > You need to detach from your current process and attach to the spawned > process. It might make it easier to attach in a timely fashion if you put > a 3 second sleep in right after the fork. This would all be easiest using > something like DDD where DDD will t

Re: ANNOUNCE: Linux ABI/SDK standards for OpenGL/Mesa (fwd)

1999-09-08 Thread Jordan K. Hubbard
> Nice Idea however wrong operating system. The losers should > have done it for FreeBSD instead of linux. 1. Unconstructive (losers?) 2. Irrelevant (what gets done for Linux by XFree86 et all gets to FreeBSD pretty quickly) 3. Needlessly cross-posted (watch your cc lines, loser! :). - Jor

Re: ANNOUNCE: Linux ABI/SDK standards for OpenGL/Mesa (fwd)

1999-09-08 Thread James C. Durham
How about xf and use procmail for filtering? -- Jim Durham To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message

Re: ANNOUNCE: Linux ABI/SDK standards for OpenGL/Mesa (fwd)

1999-09-08 Thread Nate Williams
> > 3. Needlessly cross-posted (watch your cc lines, loser! :). > > On a different topic, does anyone know of a good X mailer > (currently I am using exmh) : > > 1. user friendly > 2. filtering capability > 3. thread topic support XEmacs + VM works very well for me, but Emacsen have a fairly l

Re: message queues for I/O (usenix paper)

1999-09-08 Thread Jonathan Lemon
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED]> you write: >There is alot of talk going on over at the linux-kernel mailing list >about implementing synchronous messaging for I/O. They are talking about >a paper that was presented at USENIX: > > http://www.cs.rice.edu/~gaurav/papers/usenix99.ps > >The general i

CS Project

1999-09-08 Thread Gustavo V G C Rios
Dear gentleman, i am a computer science student, and this semester i had to began my project to get graduated. After looking for some interesting topics on many sources, one rised up: Privacity on Shared Environments. My ideia is to add system facilities to improve privacity for users on shared

Re: ANNOUNCE: Linux ABI/SDK standards for OpenGL/Mesa (fwd)

1999-09-08 Thread Amancio Hasty
> 3. Needlessly cross-posted (watch your cc lines, loser! :). On a different topic, does anyone know of a good X mailer (currently I am using exmh) : 1. user friendly 2. filtering capability 3. thread topic support Kind of like Netscape's mail reader however I hate to bring up netscape to jus

message queues for I/O (usenix paper)

1999-09-08 Thread Jayson Nordwick
There is alot of talk going on over at the linux-kernel mailing list about implementing synchronous messaging for I/O. They are talking about a paper that was presented at USENIX: http://www.cs.rice.edu/~gaurav/papers/usenix99.ps The general idea is that select() and poll() fall over with lar

Re: ANNOUNCE: Linux ABI/SDK standards for OpenGL/Mesa (fwd)

1999-09-08 Thread Amancio Hasty
> > Nice Idea however wrong operating system. The losers should > > have done it for FreeBSD instead of linux. > 2. Irrelevant (what gets done for Linux by XFree86 et all gets to FreeBSD >pretty quickly) What gets done by XFree86 is not relevant . What is relevant in the context of develop

How to follow child process in gdb

1999-09-08 Thread Zhihui Zhang
On Wed, 8 Sep 1999, Kip Macy wrote: > You need to detach from your current process and attach to the spawned > process. It might make it easier to attach in a timely fashion if you put > a 3 second sleep in right after the fork. This would all be easiest using > something like DDD where DDD will

Re: ANNOUNCE: Linux ABI/SDK standards for OpenGL/Mesa (fwd)

1999-09-08 Thread Jordan K. Hubbard
> Nice Idea however wrong operating system. The losers should > have done it for FreeBSD instead of linux. 1. Unconstructive (losers?) 2. Irrelevant (what gets done for Linux by XFree86 et all gets to FreeBSD pretty quickly) 3. Needlessly cross-posted (watch your cc lines, loser! :). - Jo

Re: PCI modems do not work???

1999-09-08 Thread Kevin Day
Quickly going back to this issue of making sio.c work with PCI uarts. If any developer would like to step forward who's willing to make this work for us in the next few days, I'm willing to pay for this. We've had a deadline spring up, which is making me move on to other things. If anyone who ca

Re: Tulip device driver question

1999-09-08 Thread Matthew N. Dodd
On Wed, 8 Sep 1999, Matt Thomas wrote: > LANCE. It's supported by the DEPCA attachment (though as ISA). Very > nice card. It has 128KB of local RAM (which can be moved to almost any > where in phyical memory). The only real botch is that the IRQ is a write > only register so you need to read th

Re: Tulip device driver question

1999-09-08 Thread Matt Thomas
At 01:41 PM 9/8/99 , Jason Thorpe wrote: >On Wed, 8 Sep 1999 00:17:52 +0200 (CEST) > Wilko Bulte wrote: > > > There was also an DE-422 EISA card. Dunno if they are different. > >I'm not sure what a DE-422 had on it... Matt? LANCE. It's supported by the DEPCA attachment (though as ISA). Very

Re: Using gdb with fork()

1999-09-08 Thread Kip Macy
You need to detach from your current process and attach to the spawned process. It might make it easier to attach in a timely fashion if you put a 3 second sleep in right after the fork. This would all be easiest using something like DDD where DDD will tell you what other processes are running with

Re: PCI modems do not work???

1999-09-08 Thread Kevin Day
Quickly going back to this issue of making sio.c work with PCI uarts. If any developer would like to step forward who's willing to make this work for us in the next few days, I'm willing to pay for this. We've had a deadline spring up, which is making me move on to other things. If anyone who c

Using gdb with fork()

1999-09-08 Thread Zhihui Zhang
I am using gdb 4.18 on FreeBSD-current. The program being debugged consists of two small files: test1.c and test2.c. The main() in test1.c has a call to fork() and for the child process case, it will call a routine, say test(), in test2.c. I use "set follow-fork-mode child", "break fork", "ste

Re: Tulip device driver question

1999-09-08 Thread Matthew N. Dodd
On Wed, 8 Sep 1999, Matt Thomas wrote: > LANCE. It's supported by the DEPCA attachment (though as ISA). Very > nice card. It has 128KB of local RAM (which can be moved to almost any > where in phyical memory). The only real botch is that the IRQ is a write > only register so you need to read t

Re: Tulip device driver question

1999-09-08 Thread Matt Thomas
At 01:41 PM 9/8/99 , Jason Thorpe wrote: >On Wed, 8 Sep 1999 00:17:52 +0200 (CEST) > Wilko Bulte <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > There was also an DE-422 EISA card. Dunno if they are different. > >I'm not sure what a DE-422 had on it... Matt? LANCE. It's supported by the DEPCA attachment (t

Re: Using gdb with fork()

1999-09-08 Thread Kip Macy
You need to detach from your current process and attach to the spawned process. It might make it easier to attach in a timely fashion if you put a 3 second sleep in right after the fork. This would all be easiest using something like DDD where DDD will tell you what other processes are running wit

Re: Tulip device driver question

1999-09-08 Thread Jason Thorpe
On Wed, 8 Sep 1999 00:17:52 +0200 (CEST) Wilko Bulte wrote: > There was also an DE-422 EISA card. Dunno if they are different. I'm not sure what a DE-422 had on it... Matt? > Do you have/want one? I could try to get you one. EISA is dead of course, > but older machines tend to have EISA s

Using gdb with fork()

1999-09-08 Thread Zhihui Zhang
I am using gdb 4.18 on FreeBSD-current. The program being debugged consists of two small files: test1.c and test2.c. The main() in test1.c has a call to fork() and for the child process case, it will call a routine, say test(), in test2.c. I use "set follow-fork-mode child", "break fork", "st

Re: Tulip device driver question

1999-09-08 Thread Matthew N. Dodd
On Wed, 8 Sep 1999, Wilko Bulte wrote: > There was also an DE-422 EISA card. Dunno if they are different. > > Do you have/want one? I could try to get you one. EISA is dead of course, > but older machines tend to have EISA slots to spare, and PCI in short > supply. I'd love to find an EISA based

Re: Tulip device driver question

1999-09-08 Thread Bill Paul
Of all the gin joints in all the towns in all the world, Jason Thorpe had to walk into mine and say: > > However, the main problem is keeping the chip from zapping memory that it > > doesn't own. Normally I use mbuf cluster buffers in the receive ring, but > > I would only tell the chip that t

Re: K6 Write Combining & FreeBSD

1999-09-08 Thread Wilko Bulte
As Brian F. Feldman wrote ... > On Tue, 7 Sep 1999, Wilko Bulte wrote: > > > Wilko (confused...) > > No, I already committed the change to comment it out in -STABLE. I will > investigate further, but I will definitely not have it in by -RELEASE time. OK, clear. I was just worried it would silent

Re: Tulip device driver question

1999-09-08 Thread Jason Thorpe
On Wed, 8 Sep 1999 00:17:52 +0200 (CEST) Wilko Bulte <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > There was also an DE-422 EISA card. Dunno if they are different. I'm not sure what a DE-422 had on it... Matt? > Do you have/want one? I could try to get you one. EISA is dead of course, > but older machines

Re: STABLE kern/13546: Too-verbose output from PCI probe at bootup

1999-09-08 Thread Parag Patel
>It seemmed to work fine for us too, but if there is a possibility >of some problem it's probably worth working around "properly". It >only takes about 4 lines of code. (Unless someone can say this >is definitely harmless in the SMP case) Ok, here's the proper fix. Turns out that this 4xPPro box

Re: Tulip device driver question

1999-09-08 Thread Matthew N. Dodd
On Wed, 8 Sep 1999, Wilko Bulte wrote: > There was also an DE-422 EISA card. Dunno if they are different. > > Do you have/want one? I could try to get you one. EISA is dead of course, > but older machines tend to have EISA slots to spare, and PCI in short > supply. I'd love to find an EISA based

Re: Fequent panics in FreeBSD 3.3-RC

1999-09-08 Thread Mike Smith
> In article <199909081736.kaa04...@dingo.cdrom.com>, you say... > > > >> Hi, > >> > >> I last night I have upgraded a system to the latest stable, and have > >> already received two of these panics: > > > >Do you have APM enabled on this system, even just in the BIOS? > > If enabling 'device ap

Re: Tulip device driver question

1999-09-08 Thread Bill Paul
Of all the gin joints in all the towns in all the world, Jason Thorpe had to walk into mine and say: > > However, the main problem is keeping the chip from zapping memory that it > > doesn't own. Normally I use mbuf cluster buffers in the receive ring, but > > I would only tell the chip that

ANNOUNCE: Linux ABI/SDK standards for OpenGL/Mesa

1999-09-08 Thread Jon Leech
We've had a group (including representatives from LSB, Mesa, Metro Link, NVIDIA, PTC, Precision Insight, SGI, XFree86, and Xi Graphics) working on a proposal for standardizing X11 OpenGL/Mesa ABI and SDK issues on Linux. The purpose is to allow applications to build against any implementation f

Re: K6 Write Combining & FreeBSD

1999-09-08 Thread Wilko Bulte
As Brian F. Feldman wrote ... > On Tue, 7 Sep 1999, Wilko Bulte wrote: > > > Wilko (confused...) > > No, I already committed the change to comment it out in -STABLE. I will > investigate further, but I will definitely not have it in by -RELEASE time. OK, clear. I was just worried it would silen

Re: Tulip device driver question

1999-09-08 Thread Jason Thorpe
On Wed, 8 Sep 1999 10:12:51 -0400 (EDT) Bill Paul wrote: > Well, yes, but I made some assumptions in order to do it. The assumption > is that whatever the current speed setting is now, the link partner's > speed setting is exactly opposite. So if I detect the condition, I first > toggle the

Re: Fequent panics in FreeBSD 3.3-RC

1999-09-08 Thread Jo Lee
In article <199909081736.kaa04...@dingo.cdrom.com>, you say... > >> Hi, >> >> I last night I have upgraded a system to the latest stable, and have >> already received two of these panics: > >Do you have APM enabled on this system, even just in the BIOS? > If enabling 'device apm...' with SMP is

Re: Superblock.

1999-09-08 Thread Josef Karthauser
On Wed, Sep 08, 1999 at 01:46:18PM -0400, David Gilbert wrote: > So... I lost my partition table. I'm willing to spend a little time > on this. Is there a byte sequence that I might recognise in a > superblock or at the start of a partition? I know this isn't an easy > task, but man 5 fs leads m

Re: Superblock.

1999-09-08 Thread Josef Karthauser
On Wed, Sep 08, 1999 at 01:46:18PM -0400, David Gilbert wrote: > So... I lost my partition table. I'm willing to spend a little time > on this. Is there a byte sequence that I might recognise in a > superblock or at the start of a partition? I know this isn't an easy > task, but man 5 fs leads m

Re: The usage of MNT_RELOAD

1999-09-08 Thread Warner Losh
In message <199909081811.laa88...@apollo.backplane.com> Matthew Dillon writes: : It is best, of course, to run fsck only on filesystems that have not : been mounted but this cannot be done for the root filesystem for obvious : reasons, hence the read-only mount + fsck + remount R/W. Ba

Re: Superblock.

1999-09-08 Thread Ruslan Ermilov
On Wed, Sep 08, 1999 at 01:46:18PM -0400, David Gilbert wrote: > So... I lost my partition table. I'm willing to spend a little time > on this. Is there a byte sequence that I might recognise in a > superblock or at the start of a partition? I know this isn't an easy > task, but man 5 fs leads m

Re: Problem with SMP in 3.3-RC

1999-09-08 Thread Mikael Hybsch
On Wed, 8 Sep 1999, I wrote: > Yesterday I cvsup'ed RELENG_3 and now SMP doesn't work anymore. > Halfway through /etc/rc some severe memory corruption seems to occur > as all new processes core dumps immediately on signal 11. Finally the > machine locks up and the reset button it the only way out.

Re: STABLE kern/13546: Too-verbose output from PCI probe at bootup

1999-09-08 Thread Parag Patel
>It seemmed to work fine for us too, but if there is a possibility >of some problem it's probably worth working around "properly". It >only takes about 4 lines of code. (Unless someone can say this >is definitely harmless in the SMP case) Ok, here's the proper fix. Turns out that this 4xPPro box

Re: 32+ signals and library versions

1999-09-08 Thread Dmitrij Tejblum
> Another issue when sigset_t changes is the version numbers of shared > libraries. Since libc and libc_r have changed on the interface level, they > need a version bump. I suggest to try to avoid the version bump. NetBSD-like way to do it: Give new implementations another names in object files,

Re: 32+ signals and library versions

1999-09-08 Thread Daniel Eischen
> Another issue when sigset_t changes is the version numbers of shared > libraries. Since libc and libc_r have changed on the interface level, they > need a version bump. I assume that all others automaticly also need a > version bump then. Am I correct in this assumption? Libc_r already had a ver

Re: The usage of MNT_RELOAD

1999-09-08 Thread Matthew Dillon
:> Does fsck have to run on a MOUNTED filesystem? If so, your answer makes :> sense to me: if fsck modifies the on-disk copy of the superblock, it does :> not have to unmount and then remount the filesystem, it only need to :> reload the superlock for disk. : :The root filesystem is mounted when

Re: The usage of MNT_RELOAD

1999-09-08 Thread Chris D. Faulhaber
On Wed, 8 Sep 1999, Zhihui Zhang wrote: > > On Wed, 8 Sep 1999, Luoqi Chen wrote: > > > > The flag MNT_RELOAD is not documented in mount manpages. From the source > > > code, I find that it is always used along with MNT_UPDATE which can be > > > speficied by user (-u option). Can anyone explai

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