"Kenneth D. Merry" wrote:
>
> Wes Peters wrote...
> > Bill Paul wrote:
> > >
> > > Of all the gin joints in all the towns in all the world, Charles Randall
> > > had to walk into mine and say:
> > >
> > > > Bill Paul has developed a driver for the Alteon Tigon 1 and 2 cards.
> > > >
> > > >
"Kenneth D. Merry" wrote:
>
> Wes Peters wrote...
> > Bill Paul wrote:
> > >
> > > Of all the gin joints in all the towns in all the world, Charles Randall
> > > had to walk into mine and say:
> > >
> > > > Bill Paul has developed a driver for the Alteon Tigon 1 and 2 cards.
> > > >
> > > >
Terry Lambert wrote:
>
> Make sure that the system you are talking to over the proxy is
> not assumed to be a FreeBSD system (e.g. don't assume that the
> vfs_default stuff exists on the other end of the proxy, or that
> it would be functional).
Now, Terry, that is ridiculous. One has to assume t
Larry Lile wrote:
>
> It was pointed out to me by a co-worker that FreeBSD has actually
> three modes of operation for mounting ufs filesystems. Could someone
> please explain to me, and him, the differences between the three.
There are two kinds of stuff written to the fs: data and metadata.
Da
"Ronald G. Minnich" wrote:
>
> the only portable user ids are names as strings. you can kludge and kludge
> but at some point the kludges will pile up too high, fall over, and hurt
> somebody. how many new options did we see proposed in the last 12 hours
> for this problem?
Actually, I think that
Christopher Seiwald scribbled this message on Aug 18:
> It's a pretty straightforward change to bypass the insertion sort for
> large subsets of the data. If no one has a strong love for qsort, I'll
> educate myself on how to make and contribute this change.
why don't you implement this w/ the 5
Terry Lambert wrote:
>
> Make sure that the system you are talking to over the proxy is
> not assumed to be a FreeBSD system (e.g. don't assume that the
> vfs_default stuff exists on the other end of the proxy, or that
> it would be functional).
Now, Terry, that is ridiculous. One has to assume
Larry Lile wrote:
>
> It was pointed out to me by a co-worker that FreeBSD has actually
> three modes of operation for mounting ufs filesystems. Could someone
> please explain to me, and him, the differences between the three.
There are two kinds of stuff written to the fs: data and metadata.
D
"Ronald G. Minnich" wrote:
>
> the only portable user ids are names as strings. you can kludge and kludge
> but at some point the kludges will pile up too high, fall over, and hurt
> somebody. how many new options did we see proposed in the last 12 hours
> for this problem?
Actually, I think tha
Christopher Seiwald scribbled this message on Aug 18:
> It's a pretty straightforward change to bypass the insertion sort for
> large subsets of the data. If no one has a strong love for qsort, I'll
> educate myself on how to make and contribute this change.
why don't you implement this w/ the 5
Wes Peters wrote...
> Bill Paul wrote:
> >
> > Of all the gin joints in all the towns in all the world, Charles Randall
> > had to walk into mine and say:
> >
> > > Bill Paul has developed a driver for the Alteon Tigon 1 and 2 cards.
> > >
> > > http://www.freebsd.org/~wpaul/Alteon/
> > >
>
Wes Peters wrote...
> Bill Paul wrote:
> >
> > Of all the gin joints in all the towns in all the world, Charles Randall
> > had to walk into mine and say:
> >
> > > Bill Paul has developed a driver for the Alteon Tigon 1 and 2 cards.
> > >
> > > http://www.freebsd.org/~wpaul/Alteon/
> > >
Of all the gin joints in all the towns in all the world, David Malone
had to walk into mine and say:
> On Wed, Aug 18, 1999 at 06:43:24PM -0400, Bill Paul wrote:
>
> Just out of curiosity, I thought I saw that you could get Intel
> Etherexpress 1Gb/s cards. Do these exist and if so would they wo
Bill Paul wrote:
>
> Of all the gin joints in all the towns in all the world, Charles Randall
> had to walk into mine and say:
>
> > Bill Paul has developed a driver for the Alteon Tigon 1 and 2 cards.
> >
> > http://www.freebsd.org/~wpaul/Alteon/
> >
> > FYI,
> > Charles
> >
> > -Origi
On Wed, Aug 18, 1999 at 06:43:24PM -0400, Bill Paul wrote:
Just out of curiosity, I thought I saw that you could get Intel
Etherexpress 1Gb/s cards. Do these exist and if so would they work
with the fxp driver as it is?
David.
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Me too. Remarkable what removing a couple of Debug lines will
do for you.
Thanks!
-Steve
> Found it.
>
> This let the tests run fine for me.
>
> ===
> RCS file: /repo/OpenLDAP/pkg/ldap/servers/slapd/daemon.c,v
> retrieving revision
Of all the gin joints in all the towns in all the world, David Malone
had to walk into mine and say:
> On Wed, Aug 18, 1999 at 06:43:24PM -0400, Bill Paul wrote:
>
> Just out of curiosity, I thought I saw that you could get Intel
> Etherexpress 1Gb/s cards. Do these exist and if so would they w
Bill Paul wrote:
>
> Of all the gin joints in all the towns in all the world, Charles Randall
> had to walk into mine and say:
>
> > Bill Paul has developed a driver for the Alteon Tigon 1 and 2 cards.
> >
> > http://www.freebsd.org/~wpaul/Alteon/
> >
> > FYI,
> > Charles
> >
> > -Orig
Christopher Seiwald writes:
> The FreeBSD qsort implementation has a rather nasty degenerate case.
> If you have data that partitions exactly about the median pivot, yet
> which is unsorted in either partition, you get get treated to an insertion
> sort. Example:
>
> 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 19
On Wed, Aug 18, 1999 at 06:43:24PM -0400, Bill Paul wrote:
Just out of curiosity, I thought I saw that you could get Intel
Etherexpress 1Gb/s cards. Do these exist and if so would they work
with the fxp driver as it is?
David.
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Me too. Remarkable what removing a couple of Debug lines will
do for you.
Thanks!
-Steve
> Found it.
>
> This let the tests run fine for me.
>
> ===
> RCS file: /repo/OpenLDAP/pkg/ldap/servers/slapd/daemon.c,v
> retrieving revisio
> Terry,
>
> It is very fine with this example, but I'm not even going to bother
> much with it for several reasons, most of which you can find codified
> in the development rules for X11 which you can find in Scheiflers
> book.
>
> But for the record: your example would get even shorter on
> the
The FreeBSD qsort implementation has a rather nasty degenerate case.
If you have data that partitions exactly about the median pivot, yet
which is unsorted in either partition, you get get treated to an insertion
sort. Example:
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 19 18 17 16 14 14 13 12 11
qsort picks
Christopher Seiwald writes:
> The FreeBSD qsort implementation has a rather nasty degenerate case.
> If you have data that partitions exactly about the median pivot, yet
> which is unsorted in either partition, you get get treated to an insertion
> sort. Example:
>
> 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 1
> Terry,
>
> It is very fine with this example, but I'm not even going to bother
> much with it for several reasons, most of which you can find codified
> in the development rules for X11 which you can find in Scheiflers
> book.
>
> But for the record: your example would get even shorter on
> th
On Wed, 18 Aug 1999, Chris Dillon wrote:
> I'm probably being extremely naive myself, but I just envisioned a
> scenario like this (pardon me if someone else has already suggested
> this):
>
> When a filesystem is mounted as foreign (HOW that is determined I
> won't talk about), every file in the
The FreeBSD qsort implementation has a rather nasty degenerate case.
If you have data that partitions exactly about the median pivot, yet
which is unsorted in either partition, you get get treated to an insertion
sort. Example:
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 19 18 17 16 14 14 13 12 11
qsort picks
I haven't played with it for a few weeks, but I recall seeing a default
volume somewhere. (in the documantation)
I think you can set it in your init files but I can't go look right now.
julian
(it seemed ok to me but I didn't test it too much)
On Wed, 18 Aug 1999, Nik Clayton wrote:
> On Tue,
On Wed, 18 Aug 1999, Matthew Dillon wrote:
> :For the general case (eg the code checked into the system), the check
> :needs to remain enabled. Anything else is insecure.
> :
> :Warner
Oh, absolutely. However, one of the reasons people use an operating system
they have source to is to make it w
On Wed, 18 Aug 1999, Nik Clayton wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 03, 1999 at 12:37:39AM -0700, Julian Elischer wrote:
> > Just fetched and compiled the "festival" package.
> > http://www.cstr.ed.ac.uk/projects/festival
>
> Likewise, based on your comments.
>
> Has anyone had any problems with the volume be
Of all the gin joints in all the towns in all the world, Charles Randall
had to walk into mine and say:
> Bill Paul has developed a driver for the Alteon Tigon 1 and 2 cards.
>
> http://www.freebsd.org/~wpaul/Alteon/
>
> FYI,
> Charles
>
> -Original Message-
> From: David Miller
On Tue, Aug 03, 1999 at 12:37:39AM -0700, Julian Elischer wrote:
> Just fetched and compiled the "festival" package.
> http://www.cstr.ed.ac.uk/projects/festival
Likewise, based on your comments.
Has anyone had any problems with the volume being far too low?
The sound card on this box is a
pcm
:For the general case (eg the code checked into the system), the check
:needs to remain enabled. Anything else is insecure.
:
:Warner
I have to agree... whenever one starts discussing weird, esoteric
workarounds one inevitably introduces security holes. I really think
just disablin
In message
David Scheidt writes:
: Couldn't you turn it off only for NFS mounted files?
For the general case (eg the code checked into the system), the check
needs to remain enabled. Anything else is insecure.
Warner
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On Wed, 18 Aug 1999, Bill Studenmund wrote:
> On Tue, 17 Aug 1999, Brian C. Grayson wrote:
>
> > On Tue, Aug 17, 1999 at 07:17:45PM -0700, Wilfredo Sanchez wrote:
> > > A group of us at Apple are trying to figure out how to handle
> > > situations where a filesystem with "foreign" user ID's a
At 8:48 AM -0500 8/18/99, David Scheidt wrote:
On Tue, 17 Aug 1999, Garance A Drosihn wrote:
> At 6:37 PM -0700 8/17/99, Matthew Dillon wrote:
> >If you removed the stat test, I would simply get rid of the -s
> >option entirely - require that all files be queued to the print
> >spool
On Wed, 18 Aug 1999, Chris Dillon wrote:
> I'm probably being extremely naive myself, but I just envisioned a
> scenario like this (pardon me if someone else has already suggested
> this):
>
> When a filesystem is mounted as foreign (HOW that is determined I
> won't talk about), every file in th
I haven't played with it for a few weeks, but I recall seeing a default
volume somewhere. (in the documantation)
I think you can set it in your init files but I can't go look right now.
julian
(it seemed ok to me but I didn't test it too much)
On Wed, 18 Aug 1999, Nik Clayton wrote:
> On Tue,
On Wed, 18 Aug 1999, Matthew Dillon wrote:
> :For the general case (eg the code checked into the system), the check
> :needs to remain enabled. Anything else is insecure.
> :
> :Warner
Oh, absolutely. However, one of the reasons people use an operating system
they have source to is to make it
On Wed, 18 Aug 1999, Nik Clayton wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 03, 1999 at 12:37:39AM -0700, Julian Elischer wrote:
> > Just fetched and compiled the "festival" package.
> > http://www.cstr.ed.ac.uk/projects/festival
>
> Likewise, based on your comments.
>
> Has anyone had any problems with the volume b
On Wed, 18 Aug 1999, Wilfredo Sanchez wrote:
> I think Mac OS 8 will forget about the credentials. I don't
> actually know much about how sharing works.
>
> But the current file sharing behaviour is not entirely useful to
> think about, because it doesn't effect the local permissions (mu
Of all the gin joints in all the towns in all the world, Charles Randall
had to walk into mine and say:
> Bill Paul has developed a driver for the Alteon Tigon 1 and 2 cards.
>
> http://www.freebsd.org/~wpaul/Alteon/
>
> FYI,
> Charles
>
> -Original Message-
> From: David Miller
On Tue, Aug 03, 1999 at 12:37:39AM -0700, Julian Elischer wrote:
> Just fetched and compiled the "festival" package.
> http://www.cstr.ed.ac.uk/projects/festival
Likewise, based on your comments.
Has anyone had any problems with the volume being far too low?
The sound card on this box is a
pc
:For the general case (eg the code checked into the system), the check
:needs to remain enabled. Anything else is insecure.
:
:Warner
I have to agree... whenever one starts discussing weird, esoteric
workarounds one inevitably introduces security holes. I really think
just disabli
On Wed, 18 Aug 1999, David Miller wrote:
> Any supported cards in 3.2.x? The HCL pages don't list any:(
Support for the Alteon Tigon 1 & 2 based boards and the SysKonnect bards
is in 3.2-STABLE. (Both drivers by Bill Paul.)
--
| Matthew N. Dodd | '78 Datsun 280Z | '75 Volvo 164E | FreeBSD/Ne
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> David
Scheidt writes:
: Couldn't you turn it off only for NFS mounted files?
For the general case (eg the code checked into the system), the check
needs to remain enabled. Anything else is insecure.
Warner
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Wilfredo Sanchez wrote:
>
> A group of us at Apple are trying to figure out how to handle
> situations where a filesystem with "foreign" user ID's are present.
> The basic problem is that the user experience using Unix semantics
> are not really pleasant. I think some examples would help:
>
>
| Fred, right now what happens in MacOS when I take a disk which has
sharing
| credentials set up, and hook it into another machine? How are the
| credentials handled there?
I think Mac OS 8 will forget about the credentials. I don't
actually know much about how sharing works.
But the cu
On Wed, 18 Aug 1999, Bill Studenmund wrote:
> On Tue, 17 Aug 1999, Brian C. Grayson wrote:
>
> > On Tue, Aug 17, 1999 at 07:17:45PM -0700, Wilfredo Sanchez wrote:
> > > A group of us at Apple are trying to figure out how to handle
> > > situations where a filesystem with "foreign" user ID's
At 8:48 AM -0500 8/18/99, David Scheidt wrote:
>On Tue, 17 Aug 1999, Garance A Drosihn wrote:
>
> > At 6:37 PM -0700 8/17/99, Matthew Dillon wrote:
> > >If you removed the stat test, I would simply get rid of the -s
> > >option entirely - require that all files be queued to the print
> > >
Bill Paul has developed a driver for the Alteon Tigon 1 and 2 cards.
http://www.freebsd.org/~wpaul/Alteon/
FYI,
Charles
-Original Message-
From: David Miller [mailto:dmil...@search.sparks.net]
Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 1999 1:55 PM
To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org
Subject: Gigab
Terry,
It is very fine with this example, but I'm not even going to bother
much with it for several reasons, most of which you can find codified
in the development rules for X11 which you can find in Scheiflers
book.
But for the record: your example would get even shorter on
the code we had befo
On Wed, 18 Aug 1999, Anthony Kimball wrote:
>
> : And what happens accross NIS domains?
>
> UID = SSN? Oops -- it's too late for RFC 666. Besides, that's Bill, not
> Steve.
>
ROTFLMFAO (rolling on the floor laughing my f***ing a** off) ;^)
Thanks for brightening my day with this grin
> >> >You would have to de-collapse several VOP lists that have been
> >> >pre-collapsed.
> >>
> >> You are talking gibberish here. Please show code where this is
> >> a problem.
> >
> >When you write a proxy stacking layer, such as John Heidemann's
> >network proxy stacking layer (an NFS altern
> >> >You would have to de-collapse several VOP lists that have been
> >> >pre-collapsed.
> >>
> >> You are talking gibberish here. Please show code where this is
> >> a problem.
> >
> >When you write a proxy stacking layer, such as John Heidemann's
> >network proxy stacking layer (an NFS alterna
: And what happens accross NIS domains?
UID = SSN? Oops -- it's too late for RFC 666. Besides, that's Bill, not Steve.
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On Wed, 18 Aug 1999, Wilfredo Sanchez wrote:
> I think Mac OS 8 will forget about the credentials. I don't
> actually know much about how sharing works.
>
> But the current file sharing behaviour is not entirely useful to
> think about, because it doesn't effect the local permissions (m
On Wed, 18 Aug 1999, David Miller wrote:
> Any supported cards in 3.2.x? The HCL pages don't list any:(
Support for the Alteon Tigon 1 & 2 based boards and the SysKonnect bards
is in 3.2-STABLE. (Both drivers by Bill Paul.)
--
| Matthew N. Dodd | '78 Datsun 280Z | '75 Volvo 164E | FreeBSD/N
> > > Right. That exported struct lock * makes locking down to the lowest-level
> > > file easy - you just feed it to the lock manager, and you're locking the
> > > same lock the lowest level fs uses. You then lock all vnodes stacked over
> > > this one at the same time. Otherwise, you just call VO
Wilfredo Sanchez wrote:
>
> A group of us at Apple are trying to figure out how to handle
> situations where a filesystem with "foreign" user ID's are present.
> The basic problem is that the user experience using Unix semantics
> are not really pleasant. I think some examples would help:
>
>
Yes, several vendors cards are supported in 3.2...most notably cards based
on Titon I or Titon II chipsets (Alteon cards, 3Com 3c985, Netgear GA620,
etc).
-marc
Marc Nicholas netSTOR Technologies, Inc. http://www.netstor.com
"Fast,
| Fred, right now what happens in MacOS when I take a disk which has
sharing
| credentials set up, and hook it into another machine? How are the
| credentials handled there?
I think Mac OS 8 will forget about the credentials. I don't
actually know much about how sharing works.
But the c
Terry,
It is very fine with this example, but I'm not even going to bother
much with it for several reasons, most of which you can find codified
in the development rules for X11 which you can find in Scheiflers
book.
But for the record: your example would get even shorter on
the code we had bef
Bill Paul has developed a driver for the Alteon Tigon 1 and 2 cards.
http://www.freebsd.org/~wpaul/Alteon/
FYI,
Charles
-Original Message-
From: David Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 1999 1:55 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Gigabit ethernet suppo
I am in the process of upgrading a NIS master using version 2.1.0 to version
3.2. The 'Makefile' has been customized to include automount maps for our
IRIX machines as was the 'Makefile' in the old NIS Master. The problem is
that for some reason the program 'yp_mkdb' in 3.2 is much more picky. It
d
On Wed, 18 Aug 1999, Anthony Kimball wrote:
>
> : And what happens accross NIS domains?
>
> UID = SSN? Oops -- it's too late for RFC 666. Besides, that's Bill, not
> Steve.
>
ROTFLMFAO (rolling on the floor laughing my f***ing a** off) ;^)
Thanks for brightening my day with this grin
On Tue, 17 Aug 1999, Brian C. Grayson wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 17, 1999 at 07:17:45PM -0700, Wilfredo Sanchez wrote:
> > A group of us at Apple are trying to figure out how to handle
> > situations where a filesystem with "foreign" user ID's are present.
>
> Have you looked at mount_umap(8)?
: And what happens accross NIS domains?
UID = SSN? Oops -- it's too late for RFC 666. Besides, that's Bill, not Steve.
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Any supported cards in 3.2.x? The HCL pages don't list any:(
Thanks,
--- David
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> > > Right. That exported struct lock * makes locking down to the lowest-level
> > > file easy - you just feed it to the lock manager, and you're locking the
> > > same lock the lowest level fs uses. You then lock all vnodes stacked over
> > > this one at the same time. Otherwise, you just call V
Yes, several vendors cards are supported in 3.2...most notably cards based
on Titon I or Titon II chipsets (Alteon cards, 3Com 3c985, Netgear GA620,
etc).
-marc
Marc Nicholas netSTOR Technologies, Inc. http://www.netstor.com
"Fast,
I am in the process of upgrading a NIS master using version 2.1.0 to version
3.2. The 'Makefile' has been customized to include automount maps for our
IRIX machines as was the 'Makefile' in the old NIS Master. The problem is
that for some reason the program 'yp_mkdb' in 3.2 is much more picky. It
On Wed, 18 Aug 1999, Marc Ramirez wrote:
> Oh! I was under the impression that it just didn't work, even with
> correct perms, but I use FreeBSD. Lemme try it... Can't mount, even
> with 0666 on /dev/fd0. Maybe I'm being stupid. Wouldn't be the first
> time!
It's controlled by a sysctl in Fre
On Wed, 18 Aug 1999, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote:
> Yes, but we need subsecond in the filesystems. Think about make(1) on
> a blinding fast machine...
Oh yes, I realize that. :-) It's just that I thought you were at one point
suggesting having 128 bits to the left of the decimal point (128 bits
wort
On Tue, 17 Aug 1999, Brian C. Grayson wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 17, 1999 at 07:17:45PM -0700, Wilfredo Sanchez wrote:
> > A group of us at Apple are trying to figure out how to handle
> > situations where a filesystem with "foreign" user ID's are present.
>
> Have you looked at mount_umap(8)
Any supported cards in 3.2.x? The HCL pages don't list any:(
Thanks,
--- David
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On Wed, 18 Aug 1999, Terry Lambert wrote:
> > Right. That exported struct lock * makes locking down to the lowest-level
> > file easy - you just feed it to the lock manager, and you're locking the
> > same lock the lowest level fs uses. You then lock all vnodes stacked over
> > this one at the sam
In message <199908181848.laa14...@usr02.primenet.com>, Terry Lambert writes:
>> >You would have to de-collapse several VOP lists that have been
>> >pre-collapsed.
>>
>> You are talking gibberish here. Please show code where this is
>> a problem.
>
>When you write a proxy stacking layer, such as
> >> > > I'm not familiar with the VFS_default stuff. All the vop_default_desc
> >> > > routines in NetBSD point to error routines.
> >> >
> >> > In FreeBSD, they now point to default routines that are *not* error
> >> > routines. This is the problem. I admit the change was very well
> >> > inte
On Wed, Aug 18, 1999, Sheldon Hearn wrote:
> > green 1999/08/17 17:18:53 PDT
> >
> > Modified files:
> > bin/test test.c
> > Log:
> > The new test(1) did not use access() correctly. I don't know why, since
> > supposedly it's ksh-derived, and it's not broken in pdksh
The discussions between Kirk and matt over a glass of beer/drink
at kirk's party at USENIX and at the Bay area User's group.
On Wed, 18 Aug 1999, Nate Williams wrote:
> > > Matt doesn't represent the FreeBSD project, and even if he rewrites
> > > the VFS subsystem so he can understand it, his r
:On Wed, 18 Aug 1999, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote:
:
:> Matt doesn't represent the FreeBSD project, and even if he rewrites
:> the VFS subsystem so he can understand it, his rewrite would face
:> considerable resistance on its way into FreeBSD. I don't think
:> there is reason to rewrite it, but there
On Wed, 18 Aug 1999, Marc Ramirez wrote:
> Oh! I was under the impression that it just didn't work, even with
> correct perms, but I use FreeBSD. Lemme try it... Can't mount, even
> with 0666 on /dev/fd0. Maybe I'm being stupid. Wouldn't be the first
> time!
It's controlled by a sysctl in Fr
> > > > > > 2. Advisory locks are hung off private backing objects.
> > > I'm not sure. The struct lock * is only used by layered filesystems, so
> > > they can keep track both of the underlying vnode lock, and if needed their
> > > own vnode lock. For advisory locks, would we want to keep track b
In message ,
Julian Elischer writes:
>On Wed, 18 Aug 1999, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote:
>
>> Matt doesn't represent the FreeBSD project, and even if he rewrites
>> the VFS subsystem so he can understand it, his rewrite would face
>> considerable resistance on its way into FreeBSD. I don't think
>> th
> > Matt doesn't represent the FreeBSD project, and even if he rewrites
> > the VFS subsystem so he can understand it, his rewrite would face
> > considerable resistance on its way into FreeBSD. I don't think
> > there is reason to rewrite it, but there certainly are areas
> > that need fixing.
>
On Wed, 18 Aug 1999, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote:
> Yes, but we need subsecond in the filesystems. Think about make(1) on
> a blinding fast machine...
Oh yes, I realize that. :-) It's just that I thought you were at one point
suggesting having 128 bits to the left of the decimal point (128 bits
wor
On Wed, 18 Aug 1999, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote:
> Matt doesn't represent the FreeBSD project, and even if he rewrites
> the VFS subsystem so he can understand it, his rewrite would face
> considerable resistance on its way into FreeBSD. I don't think
> there is reason to rewrite it, but there cer
In message , Bill
Studenmund writes:
>> >I doubt we need more than 64 bit times. 2^63 seconds works out to
>> >292,279,025,208 years, or 292 (american) billion years. Current theories
>> >put the age of the universe at I think 12 to 16 billion years. So 64-bit
>> >signed times in seconds will cov
On Wed, 18 Aug 1999, Terry Lambert wrote:
> > Right. That exported struct lock * makes locking down to the lowest-level
> > file easy - you just feed it to the lock manager, and you're locking the
> > same lock the lowest level fs uses. You then lock all vnodes stacked over
> > this one at the sa
In message <199908181737.laa03...@mt.sri.com>, Nate Williams writes:
>> > Both struct timespec and struct timeval are major mistakes, they
>> > make arithmetic on timestamps an expensive operation. Timestamps
>> > should be stored as integers using an fix-point notations, for
>> > instance 64bits
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Terry Lambert writes:
>> >You would have to de-collapse several VOP lists that have been
>> >pre-collapsed.
>>
>> You are talking gibberish here. Please show code where this is
>> a problem.
>
>When you write a proxy stacking layer, such as John Heidemann's
>netw
On Wed, 18 Aug 1999, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote:
> In message ,
> Bill Studenmund writes:
>
> >Whew! That's reasuring. I agree there are things which need fixing. It'd
> >be nice if both NetBSD and FreeBSD could fix things in the same way.
>
> Well, >that< still remains to be seen...
:-)
> >I do
> >> > > I'm not familiar with the VFS_default stuff. All the vop_default_desc
> >> > > routines in NetBSD point to error routines.
> >> >
> >> > In FreeBSD, they now point to default routines that are *not* error
> >> > routines. This is the problem. I admit the change was very well
> >> > int
On Wed, Aug 18, 1999, Sheldon Hearn wrote:
> > green 1999/08/17 17:18:53 PDT
> >
> > Modified files:
> > bin/test test.c
> > Log:
> > The new test(1) did not use access() correctly. I don't know why, since
> > supposedly it's ksh-derived, and it's not broken in pdks
The discussions between Kirk and matt over a glass of beer/drink
at kirk's party at USENIX and at the Bay area User's group.
On Wed, 18 Aug 1999, Nate Williams wrote:
> > > Matt doesn't represent the FreeBSD project, and even if he rewrites
> > > the VFS subsystem so he can understand it, his
> > Both struct timespec and struct timeval are major mistakes, they
> > make arithmetic on timestamps an expensive operation. Timestamps
> > should be stored as integers using an fix-point notations, for
> > instance 64bits with 32bit fractional seconds (the NTP timestamp),
> > or in the future 1
In message , Bill
Studenmund writes:
>Whew! That's reasuring. I agree there are things which need fixing. It'd
>be nice if both NetBSD and FreeBSD could fix things in the same way.
Well, >that< still remains to be seen...
>> >> The use of the "vfs_default" to make unimplemented VOP's
>> >>
:On Wed, 18 Aug 1999, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote:
:
:> Matt doesn't represent the FreeBSD project, and even if he rewrites
:> the VFS subsystem so he can understand it, his rewrite would face
:> considerable resistance on its way into FreeBSD. I don't think
:> there is reason to rewrite it, but ther
On Wed, 18 Aug 1999, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote:
> In message ,
> Bill
> Studenmund writes:
> >On Sat, 14 Aug 1999, Terry Lambert wrote:
>
> Matt doesn't represent the FreeBSD project, and even if he rewrites
> the VFS subsystem so he can understand it, his rewrite would face
> considerable resist
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