Re: ufs/ffs resize?

1999-06-25 Thread Jordan K. Hubbard
> I agree with the approach. But why write a simplistic volume manager > when we already have vinum? vinum is far from simplistic, but I suppose it might also do. :) Still, it would someday be nice if you could use vinum as the very powerful swiss-army knife that it currently is OR as a dull ax

Re: ufs/ffs resize?

1999-06-25 Thread Jordan K. Hubbard
> I agree with the approach. But why write a simplistic volume manager > when we already have vinum? vinum is far from simplistic, but I suppose it might also do. :) Still, it would someday be nice if you could use vinum as the very powerful swiss-army knife that it currently is OR as a dull axe

Re: Connect and so on..

1999-06-25 Thread Anonymous
On Fri, 25 Jun 1999, Mike Smith wrote: > > > > > > static struct sockaddr_in servaddr; > > > > > > This needs to be a valid structure in USER space, not kernel. > > > > OK. I suspected as much. Question is: how do I open a connection from > > KERNEL space? > > You don't. > > If you're rea

Re: Connect and so on..

1999-06-25 Thread Brian F. Feldman
On Fri, 25 Jun 1999, Mike Smith wrote: > > > > > > static struct sockaddr_in servaddr; > > > > > > This needs to be a valid structure in USER space, not kernel. > > > > OK. I suspected as much. Question is: how do I open a connection from > > KERNEL space? > > You don't. > > If you're real

Re: [Re: coarse vs fine-grained locking in SMP systems]

1999-06-25 Thread Jesus Monroy
Ville-Pertti Keinonen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mike O'Dell) writes: > > we published the best Unix SMP paper I've ever seen in Computing > > Systems - from the Amdahl guys who did an SMP version of the kernel > > by very clever hacks on SPLx() macros to make them spin locks

Re: [Re: coarse vs fine-grained locking in SMP systems]

1999-06-25 Thread Jesus Monroy
Ville-Pertti Keinonen wrote: > m...@servo.ccr.org (Mike O'Dell) writes: > > we published the best Unix SMP paper I've ever seen in Computing > > Systems - from the Amdahl guys who did an SMP version of the kernel > > by very clever hacks on SPLx() macros to make them spin locks and > > a bit of ot

Re: Inetd and wrapping.

1999-06-25 Thread Sheldon Hearn
On Fri, 25 Jun 1999 13:02:00 MST, Aaron Smith wrote: > hey, that's a pretty neat feature. i confess i wasn't aware of that. out > of curiosity, can old inetds read this without choking? No, the extension would cause older inetd's to barf. > agreed; what i was trying to get at is the mental d

Re: Inetd and wrapping.

1999-06-25 Thread Sheldon Hearn
On Fri, 25 Jun 1999 13:02:00 MST, Aaron Smith wrote: > hey, that's a pretty neat feature. i confess i wasn't aware of that. out > of curiosity, can old inetds read this without choking? No, the extension would cause older inetd's to barf. > agreed; what i was trying to get at is the mental di

Re: ufs/ffs resize?

1999-06-25 Thread Anonymous
[Format recovered--see http://www.lemis.com/email/email-format.html] On Friday, 25 June 1999 at 18:22:19 -0700, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: >> to do actually it. Personally, I think it would be a doable >> project if someone wanted to have a go at it - to allow a filesystem >> to be gro

Re: ufs/ffs resize?

1999-06-25 Thread Greg Lehey
[Format recovered--see http://www.lemis.com/email/email-format.html] On Friday, 25 June 1999 at 18:22:19 -0700, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: >> to do actually it. Personally, I think it would be a doable >> project if someone wanted to have a go at it - to allow a filesystem >> to be grow

CF Ethernet cards

1999-06-25 Thread Warner Losh
Can anybody recommend a good Type I Compact Flash ethernet card that has a driver for one or more of FreeBSD, NetBSD or OpenBSD? Please note, I'm not asking for a PC Card, PCMCIA, or CardBus. I have a device that has a Type I Compact Flash slot. All the CF Ethernet cards I've seen have shared

CF Ethernet cards

1999-06-25 Thread Warner Losh
Can anybody recommend a good Type I Compact Flash ethernet card that has a driver for one or more of FreeBSD, NetBSD or OpenBSD? Please note, I'm not asking for a PC Card, PCMCIA, or CardBus. I have a device that has a Type I Compact Flash slot. All the CF Ethernet cards I've seen have shared t

Re: ufs/ffs resize?

1999-06-25 Thread Anonymous
> to do actually it. Personally, I think it would be a doable > project if someone wanted to have a go at it - to allow a filesystem > to be grown or shrunk on a cylinder-by-cylinder basis. The only real > complexity occurs when you are shrinking a filesystem - you have to locat

Re: ufs/ffs resize?

1999-06-25 Thread Jordan K. Hubbard
> to do actually it. Personally, I think it would be a doable > project if someone wanted to have a go at it - to allow a filesystem > to be grown or shrunk on a cylinder-by-cylinder basis. The only real > complexity occurs when you are shrinking a filesystem - you have to locat

building thread-safe Xlibs

1999-06-25 Thread Francis Jordan
Can anyone please give me some clues as to how to build X with thread support enabled. I think the right way to do it is to add the relevant options to config/cf/FreeBSD.cf, something like #define HasPosixThreads YES #define ThreadedX YES #define ThreadsLibraries-pt

building thread-safe Xlibs

1999-06-25 Thread Francis Jordan
Can anyone please give me some clues as to how to build X with thread support enabled. I think the right way to do it is to add the relevant options to config/cf/FreeBSD.cf, something like #define HasPosixThreads YES #define ThreadedX YES #define ThreadsLibraries-pth

Re: System unique identifier.....

1999-06-25 Thread Mike Smith
> On Fri, 25 Jun 1999 15:55:03 -0600 > Wes Peters <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Are there enough bytes available in the BIOS NVRAM? That would do > > nicely as a place to store it. > > If you want this to be widely adoped across the free OS community > (hell, even if you want both of Fr

Re: System unique identifier.....

1999-06-25 Thread Mike Smith
> On Fri, 25 Jun 1999 15:55:03 -0600 > Wes Peters wrote: > > > Are there enough bytes available in the BIOS NVRAM? That would do > > nicely as a place to store it. > > If you want this to be widely adoped across the free OS community > (hell, even if you want both of FreeBSD's platforms to

Re: System unique identifier.....

1999-06-25 Thread Anonymous
> Matthew Jacob wrote: > > > > > > Whose BIOS NVRAM? > > > > > > The host system BIOS NVRAM. I thought we were looking for a per-host > > > ID here, right? > > > > Yes, but this kind of NVRAM isn't available on an Alpha, or a Sparc. > > On the SPARC you can put it in the OpenBoot environment.

Re: System unique identifier.....

1999-06-25 Thread Matthew Jacob
> Matthew Jacob wrote: > > > > > > Whose BIOS NVRAM? > > > > > > The host system BIOS NVRAM. I thought we were looking for a per-host > > > ID here, right? > > > > Yes, but this kind of NVRAM isn't available on an Alpha, or a Sparc. > > On the SPARC you can put it in the OpenBoot environment.

Re: System unique identifier.....

1999-06-25 Thread Anonymous
Matthew Jacob wrote: > > > > Whose BIOS NVRAM? > > > > The host system BIOS NVRAM. I thought we were looking for a per-host > > ID here, right? > > Yes, but this kind of NVRAM isn't available on an Alpha, or a Sparc. On the SPARC you can put it in the OpenBoot environment. I dunno about the

Re: System unique identifier.....

1999-06-25 Thread Wes Peters
Matthew Jacob wrote: > > > > Whose BIOS NVRAM? > > > > The host system BIOS NVRAM. I thought we were looking for a per-host > > ID here, right? > > Yes, but this kind of NVRAM isn't available on an Alpha, or a Sparc. On the SPARC you can put it in the OpenBoot environment. I dunno about the A

Re: Microsoft performance (was: ...)

1999-06-25 Thread Anonymous
On Thu, 24 Jun 1999, Mike Smith wrote: > > It's stupid to tune everything for performance except for the web > > server -- they should be using Zeus, not Apache. > > The Zeus evaluation license prohibits its use for benchmarks, and the > Zeus folks failed to respond to any of my attempts to com

Re: Microsoft performance (was: ...)

1999-06-25 Thread Zach Brown
On Thu, 24 Jun 1999, Mike Smith wrote: > > It's stupid to tune everything for performance except for the web > > server -- they should be using Zeus, not Apache. > > The Zeus evaluation license prohibits its use for benchmarks, and the > Zeus folks failed to respond to any of my attempts to comm

Re: System unique identifier.....

1999-06-25 Thread Jason Thorpe
On Fri, 25 Jun 1999 16:18:04 -0600 Wes Peters <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Whose BIOS NVRAM? > > The host system BIOS NVRAM. I thought we were looking for a per-host > ID here, right? I think Matt meant "which vendor's BIOS?" -- Jason R. Thorpe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To Unsubs

Re: System unique identifier.....

1999-06-25 Thread Anonymous
On Fri, 25 Jun 1999 15:55:03 -0600 Wes Peters <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Are there enough bytes available in the BIOS NVRAM? That would do > nicely as a place to store it. If you want this to be widely adoped across the free OS community (hell, even if you want both of FreeBSD's platform

Re: System unique identifier.....

1999-06-25 Thread Jason Thorpe
On Fri, 25 Jun 1999 16:18:04 -0600 Wes Peters wrote: > > Whose BIOS NVRAM? > > The host system BIOS NVRAM. I thought we were looking for a per-host > ID here, right? I think Matt meant "which vendor's BIOS?" -- Jason R. Thorpe To Unsubscribe: send mail to majord...@freebsd.o

Re: System unique identifier.....

1999-06-25 Thread Jason Thorpe
On Fri, 25 Jun 1999 15:55:03 -0600 Wes Peters wrote: > Are there enough bytes available in the BIOS NVRAM? That would do > nicely as a place to store it. If you want this to be widely adoped across the free OS community (hell, even if you want both of FreeBSD's platforms to support it), yo

Re: System unique identifier.....

1999-06-25 Thread Anonymous
> > Whose BIOS NVRAM? > > The host system BIOS NVRAM. I thought we were looking for a per-host > ID here, right? Yes, but this kind of NVRAM isn't available on an Alpha, or a Sparc. To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message

Re: System unique identifier.....

1999-06-25 Thread Matthew Jacob
> > Whose BIOS NVRAM? > > The host system BIOS NVRAM. I thought we were looking for a per-host > ID here, right? Yes, but this kind of NVRAM isn't available on an Alpha, or a Sparc. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majord...@freebsd.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the mess

Re: System unique identifier.....

1999-06-25 Thread Anonymous
Matthew Jacob wrote: > > > > > > > I want it to persist until it's changed. Change doesn't mean a reboot. > > > > > > The Linux folks (mostly Ted) helped me clarify some thinking about this so > > > that the basic original source of the seeded WWN doesn't have to come from > > > first principles

Re: System unique identifier.....

1999-06-25 Thread Wes Peters
Matthew Jacob wrote: > > > > > > > I want it to persist until it's changed. Change doesn't mean a reboot. > > > > > > The Linux folks (mostly Ted) helped me clarify some thinking about this so > > > that the basic original source of the seeded WWN doesn't have to come from > > > first principles i

Re: System unique identifier.....

1999-06-25 Thread Anonymous
> > > > I want it to persist until it's changed. Change doesn't mean a reboot. > > > > The Linux folks (mostly Ted) helped me clarify some thinking about this so > > that the basic original source of the seeded WWN doesn't have to come from > > first principles in hardware that can be read pri

Re: System unique identifier.....

1999-06-25 Thread Matthew Jacob
> > > > I want it to persist until it's changed. Change doesn't mean a reboot. > > > > The Linux folks (mostly Ted) helped me clarify some thinking about this so > > that the basic original source of the seeded WWN doesn't have to come from > > first principles in hardware that can be read prio

Re: System unique identifier.....

1999-06-25 Thread Anonymous
Matthew Jacob wrote: > > I want it to persist until it's changed. Change doesn't mean a reboot. > > The Linux folks (mostly Ted) helped me clarify some thinking about this so > that the basic original source of the seeded WWN doesn't have to come from > first principles in hardware that can be r

Re: System unique identifier.....

1999-06-25 Thread Wes Peters
Matthew Jacob wrote: > > I want it to persist until it's changed. Change doesn't mean a reboot. > > The Linux folks (mostly Ted) helped me clarify some thinking about this so > that the basic original source of the seeded WWN doesn't have to come from > first principles in hardware that can be re

Re: synch primitives (was Re: Microsoft performance)

1999-06-25 Thread Anonymous
Aaron Smith wrote: > > On Thu, 24 Jun 1999 20:14:19 CDT, Alfred Perlstein writes: > >I'm not sure what you mean by the refernce to malloc types, I just > >thought something along the lines of mutex_t with an API > >for trying, allocating, freeing and initializing them. > > i'd really like to imp

Re: synch primitives (was Re: Microsoft performance)

1999-06-25 Thread Wes Peters
Aaron Smith wrote: > > On Thu, 24 Jun 1999 20:14:19 CDT, Alfred Perlstein writes: > >I'm not sure what you mean by the refernce to malloc types, I just > >thought something along the lines of mutex_t with an API > >for trying, allocating, freeing and initializing them. > > i'd really like to impl

Re: System unique identifier.....

1999-06-25 Thread Anonymous
Yes, you want the WWN to stay constant. That doesn't mean it should necessarily be the same physical box. Nor does it mean it should be a system that comes with a WWN assigned to by the manufacturer. I think I'm confusing myself and people. I have a WWN. By definition it should be unique value.

Re: System unique identifier.....

1999-06-25 Thread Matthew Jacob
Yes, you want the WWN to stay constant. That doesn't mean it should necessarily be the same physical box. Nor does it mean it should be a system that comes with a WWN assigned to by the manufacturer. I think I'm confusing myself and people. I have a WWN. By definition it should be unique value. A

Re: Inetd and wrapping.

1999-06-25 Thread Drew Eckhardt
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> you write: > >Here's one possibility, it adds a a wrap/nowrap field that goes beside the >wait/nowait field, so you would have: > >ftp stream tcp nowait wrap root /usr/libexec/ftpd ftpd -l Breaking backwards compatability is evil. Do somethin

Re: Inetd and wrapping.

1999-06-25 Thread Drew Eckhardt
In article <199906242353.taa06...@smtp4.erols.com> you write: > >Here's one possibility, it adds a a wrap/nowrap field that goes beside the >wait/nowait field, so you would have: > >ftp stream tcp nowait wrap root /usr/libexec/ftpd ftpd -l Breaking backwards compatability is

Re: ufs/ffs resize?

1999-06-25 Thread Anonymous
> :anybody done any work on a utility for growing ufs filesystems? > : > :aaron > > It has been brought up a couple of times but nobody has tried > to do actually it. Personally, I think it would be a doable > project if someone wanted to have a go at it - to allow a filesystem >

Re: ufs/ffs resize?

1999-06-25 Thread Luigi Rizzo
> :anybody done any work on a utility for growing ufs filesystems? > : > :aaron > > It has been brought up a couple of times but nobody has tried > to do actually it. Personally, I think it would be a doable > project if someone wanted to have a go at it - to allow a filesystem >

Re: ufs/ffs resize?

1999-06-25 Thread Anonymous
:anybody done any work on a utility for growing ufs filesystems? : :aaron It has been brought up a couple of times but nobody has tried to do actually it. Personally, I think it would be a doable project if someone wanted to have a go at it - to allow a filesystem to be grown or

Re: System unique identifier.....

1999-06-25 Thread Anonymous
As Matthew Jacob wrote ... > > > > FYI: The Compaq HSG80 Fibrechannel RAID controllers have their > > WWN in NVRAM. One is supposed to get the WWN from a label on the *cabinet* > > into the HSG controller. This allows for easy hardware swap in case of > > hardware grief. > > Yes, if you want th

Re: ufs/ffs resize?

1999-06-25 Thread Matthew Dillon
:anybody done any work on a utility for growing ufs filesystems? : :aaron It has been brought up a couple of times but nobody has tried to do actually it. Personally, I think it would be a doable project if someone wanted to have a go at it - to allow a filesystem to be grown or s

Re: System unique identifier.....

1999-06-25 Thread Wilko Bulte
As Matthew Jacob wrote ... > > > > FYI: The Compaq HSG80 Fibrechannel RAID controllers have their > > WWN in NVRAM. One is supposed to get the WWN from a label on the *cabinet* > > into the HSG controller. This allows for easy hardware swap in case of > > hardware grief. > > Yes, if you want the

Re: ufs/ffs resize?

1999-06-25 Thread Anonymous
there are several greg lehey has been collecting them. julian On Fri, 25 Jun 1999, Aaron Smith wrote: > anybody done any work on a utility for growing ufs filesystems? > > aaron > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the mes

Re: ufs/ffs resize?

1999-06-25 Thread Julian Elischer
there are several greg lehey has been collecting them. julian On Fri, 25 Jun 1999, Aaron Smith wrote: > anybody done any work on a utility for growing ufs filesystems? > > aaron > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majord...@freebsd.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the

ufs/ffs resize?

1999-06-25 Thread Aaron Smith
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ufs/ffs resize?

1999-06-25 Thread Aaron Smith
anybody done any work on a utility for growing ufs filesystems? aaron To Unsubscribe: send mail to majord...@freebsd.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message

Re: Inetd and wrapping.

1999-06-25 Thread Anonymous
On Fri, 25 Jun 1999 20:12:01 BST, David Malone writes: >This isn't so much a conf format change, as a conf format extension. >It is the same type of extension as was added to support max child >and max child per minute - which aren't a standard inetd feature. >All old inetd.conf files remain valid

Re: Inetd and wrapping.

1999-06-25 Thread Aaron Smith
On Fri, 25 Jun 1999 20:12:01 BST, David Malone writes: >This isn't so much a conf format change, as a conf format extension. >It is the same type of extension as was added to support max child >and max child per minute - which aren't a standard inetd feature. >All old inetd.conf files remain valid.

Re: System unique identifier.....

1999-06-25 Thread Anonymous
> > > > Really? Couldn't the Port WWN change and the Node WWN stay constant? I > > mean, yes, for FC controllers that have WWN in the 0x2 range, > > the Node WWN is 0x20... and the Port is 0x22... but it seems like this is > > a soft relationship- you *could* have Port && Node unique

Re: System unique identifier.....

1999-06-25 Thread Matthew Jacob
> > > > Really? Couldn't the Port WWN change and the Node WWN stay constant? I > > mean, yes, for FC controllers that have WWN in the 0x2 range, > > the Node WWN is 0x20... and the Port is 0x22... but it seems like this is > > a soft relationship- you *could* have Port && Node unique

Re: Inetd and wrapping.

1999-06-25 Thread David Malone
On Fri, Jun 25, 1999 at 11:02:04AM -0700, Aaron Smith wrote: > i have no problem with -w options, but i am still surprised that you want > to go ahead with the conf format change. This isn't so much a conf format change, as a conf format extension. It is the same type of extension as was added to

Re: Inetd and wrapping.

1999-06-25 Thread David Malone
On Fri, Jun 25, 1999 at 11:02:04AM -0700, Aaron Smith wrote: > i have no problem with -w options, but i am still surprised that you want > to go ahead with the conf format change. This isn't so much a conf format change, as a conf format extension. It is the same type of extension as was added to

Re: Serial Console Wierdness

1999-06-25 Thread Anonymous
On Tue, 22 Jun 1999, Aaron Smith wrote: > (also see http://www.arctic.org/~aaron/tips/freebsd-serial-console) Great page, thank you. One suggestion I have is that you make the distinction between getting a login prompt on the com console and getting the boot messages to display on the co

Re: Serial Console Wierdness

1999-06-25 Thread Doug
On Tue, 22 Jun 1999, Aaron Smith wrote: > (also see http://www.arctic.org/~aaron/tips/freebsd-serial-console) Great page, thank you. One suggestion I have is that you make the distinction between getting a login prompt on the com console and getting the boot messages to display on the com

Re: System unique identifier.....

1999-06-25 Thread Anonymous
> > FYI: The Compaq HSG80 Fibrechannel RAID controllers have their > WWN in NVRAM. One is supposed to get the WWN from a label on the *cabinet* > into the HSG controller. This allows for easy hardware swap in case of > hardware grief. Yes, if you want the WWN to stay constant. -matt To Uns

Re: System unique identifier.....

1999-06-25 Thread Anonymous
As Matthew Jacob wrote ... > Yes. The Solaris drivers use the 'localetheraddr' function, or's in 1<<60 > and then HBA instance # << 48 to make a NAA_IEEE port identifier. > > > > > The main issue, I think, is that of persistence. How persistent do > > you want it? I'd bet that no matter wha

Re: System unique identifier.....

1999-06-25 Thread Matthew Jacob
> > FYI: The Compaq HSG80 Fibrechannel RAID controllers have their > WWN in NVRAM. One is supposed to get the WWN from a label on the *cabinet* > into the HSG controller. This allows for easy hardware swap in case of > hardware grief. Yes, if you want the WWN to stay constant. -matt To Unsu

Re: System unique identifier.....

1999-06-25 Thread Wilko Bulte
As Matthew Jacob wrote ... > Yes. The Solaris drivers use the 'localetheraddr' function, or's in 1<<60 > and then HBA instance # << 48 to make a NAA_IEEE port identifier. > > > > > The main issue, I think, is that of persistence. How persistent do > > you want it? I'd bet that no matter what

SOCKS5 Question

1999-06-25 Thread Nick LoPresti
Lemme explain my situation. I have a FreeBSD box sitting behind a Microsoft Proxy Server. I want the FreeBSD box to be able to reach the internet via SOCKS. I have downloaded, installed, and played a great deal with this software. I can't seem to get it to work. Could someone help me out? Po

SOCKS5 Question

1999-06-25 Thread Nick LoPresti
Lemme explain my situation. I have a FreeBSD box sitting behind a Microsoft Proxy Server. I want the FreeBSD box to be able to reach the internet via SOCKS. I have downloaded, installed, and played a great deal with this software. I can't seem to get it to work. Could someone help me out? Pos

NIS Question Thanks!!

1999-06-25 Thread Anonymous
First of all, I would like to thank everyone who helped me with my NIS problems(A few days back). It is up and running now. For anyone else attempting to set up NIS, what really helped me was this website: http://www.realtime.net/sculpture/nis-startup.html For all those questioning the security

NIS Question Thanks!!

1999-06-25 Thread Nick LoPresti
First of all, I would like to thank everyone who helped me with my NIS problems(A few days back). It is up and running now. For anyone else attempting to set up NIS, what really helped me was this website: http://www.realtime.net/sculpture/nis-startup.html For all those questioning the security

Re: Inetd and wrapping.

1999-06-25 Thread Anonymous
On Fri, 25 Jun 1999 16:05:05 +0200, Sheldon Hearn writes: >We'll also end up with an inetd that _can_ wrap if it's told to (-w >and -ww). So we end up offering a better super-server than we had >before, with no backward compatibility problems, and no additional >incompatibilities with other system

Re: Inetd and wrapping.

1999-06-25 Thread Aaron Smith
On Fri, 25 Jun 1999 16:05:05 +0200, Sheldon Hearn writes: >We'll also end up with an inetd that _can_ wrap if it's told to (-w >and -ww). So we end up offering a better super-server than we had >before, with no backward compatibility problems, and no additional >incompatibilities with other systems

Re: System unique identifier.....

1999-06-25 Thread Anonymous
> On Thu, 24 Jun 1999, Matthew Jacob wrote: > > > Specifically in this case a Node WWN for fibre channel fabrics that does > > not depend upon an assigned WWN in any particular Fibre Channel card > > (multipathing might make it desirable to have a synthetic Node WWN that > > can also be passed t

Re: System unique identifier.....

1999-06-25 Thread Matthew Jacob
> On Thu, 24 Jun 1999, Matthew Jacob wrote: > > > Specifically in this case a Node WWN for fibre channel fabrics that does > > not depend upon an assigned WWN in any particular Fibre Channel card > > (multipathing might make it desirable to have a synthetic Node WWN that > > can also be passed to

NEWBUS-ifyed ISA-PnP Question.

1999-06-25 Thread Anonymous
Hi, I believe someone working on NEWBUS-ifying ISA-PnP. How will they implement it? I think current framework is like this. ++ ++ ...|ISA DEV | |ISA-hint|<-This device provides ++ ++ what device is connected | ||

NEWBUS-ifyed ISA-PnP Question.

1999-06-25 Thread takawata
Hi, I believe someone working on NEWBUS-ifying ISA-PnP. How will they implement it? I think current framework is like this. ++ ++ ...|ISA DEV | |ISA-hint|<-This device provides ++ ++ what device is connected | ||

Re: System unique identifier.....

1999-06-25 Thread Anonymous
> On Thu, 24 Jun 1999 23:41:34 -0700 (PDT) > Matthew Jacob <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > More generally a system unique identifier available early (pre mountroot) > > could be useful for a number of things. Why're you asking? > > The intended usage: > > (1) Could influence where it

Re: System unique identifier.....

1999-06-25 Thread Matthew Jacob
> On Thu, 24 Jun 1999 23:41:34 -0700 (PDT) > Matthew Jacob wrote: > > > More generally a system unique identifier available early (pre mountroot) > > could be useful for a number of things. Why're you asking? > > The intended usage: > > (1) Could influence where it is stored. Yes. >

Re: System unique identifier.....

1999-06-25 Thread Anonymous
On Fri, 25 Jun 1999, Eduardo E. Horvath wrote: >We've been hashing this issue out quite a bit. Since a Fibre Channel card >is by definition a fibre channel controller, each card should have a >unique WWN that is used for the node WWN. If you swap a controller, the >node WWN should change. I've

Re: System unique identifier.....

1999-06-25 Thread Roger Brooks
On Fri, 25 Jun 1999, Eduardo E. Horvath wrote: >We've been hashing this issue out quite a bit. Since a Fibre Channel card >is by definition a fibre channel controller, each card should have a >unique WWN that is used for the node WWN. If you swap a controller, the >node WWN should change. I've

Re: Connect and so on..

1999-06-25 Thread Anonymous
> > > > static struct sockaddr_in servaddr; > > > > This needs to be a valid structure in USER space, not kernel. > > OK. I suspected as much. Question is: how do I open a connection from > KERNEL space? You don't. If you're really desperate to do this, you'll have to patch _all_ of the s

Re: Connect and so on..

1999-06-25 Thread Mike Smith
> > > > static struct sockaddr_in servaddr; > > > > This needs to be a valid structure in USER space, not kernel. > > OK. I suspected as much. Question is: how do I open a connection from > KERNEL space? You don't. If you're really desperate to do this, you'll have to patch _all_ of the sy

RE: Connect and so on..

1999-06-25 Thread Dan Seguin
On Fri, 25 Jun 1999, Ladavac Marino wrote: > > -Original Message- > > From: Dan Seguin [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Friday, June 25, 1999 5:26 PM > > To: Brian F. Feldman > > Cc: FreeBSD Hackers > > Subject:Re: Connect and so on.. > > As I said earlier in this pos

RE: Connect and so on..

1999-06-25 Thread Dan Seguin
On Fri, 25 Jun 1999, Ladavac Marino wrote: > > -Original Message- > > From: Dan Seguin [SMTP:d...@texar.com] > > Sent: Friday, June 25, 1999 5:26 PM > > To: Brian F. Feldman > > Cc: FreeBSD Hackers > > Subject:Re: Connect and so on.. > > As I said earlier in this post, I

RE: Connect and so on..

1999-06-25 Thread Anonymous
> -Original Message- > From: Dan Seguin [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Friday, June 25, 1999 5:26 PM > To: Brian F. Feldman > Cc: FreeBSD Hackers > Subject: Re: Connect and so on.. > > As I said earlier in this post, I need to open a connection to the > outside > (presumably) f

RE: Connect and so on..

1999-06-25 Thread Ladavac Marino
> -Original Message- > From: Dan Seguin [SMTP:d...@texar.com] > Sent: Friday, June 25, 1999 5:26 PM > To: Brian F. Feldman > Cc: FreeBSD Hackers > Subject: Re: Connect and so on.. > > As I said earlier in this post, I need to open a connection to the > outside > (presumably) from

Re: Connect and so on..

1999-06-25 Thread Anonymous
On Wed, 23 Jun 1999, Brian F. Feldman wrote: > On Wed, 23 Jun 1999, Dan Seguin wrote: > > > [snip] > > I use the calling proc's table as it is passed to the system call, and am > > trying to call socket and connect as if the user process originally called > > them one by one (from userland s

Re: Connect and so on..

1999-06-25 Thread Dan Seguin
On Wed, 23 Jun 1999, Brian F. Feldman wrote: > On Wed, 23 Jun 1999, Dan Seguin wrote: > > > [snip] > > I use the calling proc's table as it is passed to the system call, and am > > trying to call socket and connect as if the user process originally called > > them one by one (from userland sy

Re: Inetd and wrapping.

1999-06-25 Thread Anonymous
On Fri, Jun 25, 1999 at 04:05:05PM +0200, Sheldon Hearn wrote: > > On Fri, 25 Jun 1999 09:31:26 -0400, Keith Stevenson wrote: > > > What is possible now that wasn't possible with tcpd from the ports > > collection? Why incorporate libwrap (and make our inetd functionally > > different from ever

Re: Inetd and wrapping.

1999-06-25 Thread Keith Stevenson
On Fri, Jun 25, 1999 at 04:05:05PM +0200, Sheldon Hearn wrote: > > On Fri, 25 Jun 1999 09:31:26 -0400, Keith Stevenson wrote: > > > What is possible now that wasn't possible with tcpd from the ports > > collection? Why incorporate libwrap (and make our inetd functionally > > different from every

Re: Inetd and wrapping.

1999-06-25 Thread Anonymous
On Fri, 25 Jun 1999 09:31:26 -0400, Keith Stevenson wrote: > What is possible now that wasn't possible with tcpd from the ports > collection? Why incorporate libwrap (and make our inetd functionally > different from everyone else's) instead of bringing tcpd into the base > system? If we _don'

Re: Inetd and wrapping.

1999-06-25 Thread Sheldon Hearn
On Fri, 25 Jun 1999 09:31:26 -0400, Keith Stevenson wrote: > What is possible now that wasn't possible with tcpd from the ports > collection? Why incorporate libwrap (and make our inetd functionally > different from everyone else's) instead of bringing tcpd into the base > system? If we _don't

Re: Inetd and wrapping.

1999-06-25 Thread Anonymous
On Fri, Jun 25, 1999 at 02:50:34PM +0200, Sheldon Hearn wrote: > > On Fri, 25 Jun 1999 05:44:06 MST, Aaron Smith wrote: > > > could you please restate the argument for this? i still haven't heard a > > decent reason for this sort of conf format perturbation. > > I'm so tempted to say "me too".

Re: Inetd and wrapping.

1999-06-25 Thread Keith Stevenson
On Fri, Jun 25, 1999 at 02:50:34PM +0200, Sheldon Hearn wrote: > > On Fri, 25 Jun 1999 05:44:06 MST, Aaron Smith wrote: > > > could you please restate the argument for this? i still haven't heard a > > decent reason for this sort of conf format perturbation. > > I'm so tempted to say "me too". :

Re: Anybody using the Efficient Networks ATM PCI adapter?

1999-06-25 Thread Anonymous
Couple of notes: o Taavi has done work on the FreeBSD port o The driver at ftp://ftp.wheaton.edu has several bugs in it which I think both Soren and Taavi have adjuste for. johnh... Quoting "Soren S. Jorvang" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > On Fri, Jun 25, 1999 at 09:18:53AM +0200, Jesper Skriver wrote

Re: Anybody using the Efficient Networks ATM PCI adapter?

1999-06-25 Thread John . C . Hayward
Couple of notes: o Taavi has done work on the FreeBSD port o The driver at ftp://ftp.wheaton.edu has several bugs in it which I think both Soren and Taavi have adjuste for. johnh... Quoting "Soren S. Jorvang" : > On Fri, Jun 25, 1999 at 09:18:53AM +0200, Jesper Skriver wrote: > > On Thu, Jun 24

Re: Inetd and wrapping.

1999-06-25 Thread Anonymous
On Fri, 25 Jun 1999 05:44:06 MST, Aaron Smith wrote: > could you please restate the argument for this? i still haven't heard a > decent reason for this sort of conf format perturbation. I'm so tempted to say "me too". :-) John Baldwin has suggested that he had functionality with inetd + tcpd

Re: Inetd and wrapping.

1999-06-25 Thread Sheldon Hearn
On Fri, 25 Jun 1999 05:44:06 MST, Aaron Smith wrote: > could you please restate the argument for this? i still haven't heard a > decent reason for this sort of conf format perturbation. I'm so tempted to say "me too". :-) John Baldwin has suggested that he had functionality with inetd + tcpd t

Re: Inetd and wrapping.

1999-06-25 Thread Aaron Smith
On Fri, 25 Jun 1999 10:14:48 +0200, Sheldon Hearn writes: >I think I prefer the suggestion I saw from someone else, which would >allow > >ftpstream tcp nowait/10/10/wrap root ... > >This can be done in such a way as to be backward compatible. Looks like >something for the week-end, if I

Re: Inetd and wrapping.

1999-06-25 Thread Aaron Smith
On Fri, 25 Jun 1999 10:14:48 +0200, Sheldon Hearn writes: >I think I prefer the suggestion I saw from someone else, which would >allow > >ftpstream tcp nowait/10/10/wrap root ... > >This can be done in such a way as to be backward compatible. Looks like >something for the week-end, if I c

Re: REQ: Better etiquette next week

1999-06-25 Thread Anonymous
hello all ~ I never posted to this list - maybe once, but I learned. I follow threads of brilliant minds at work and I read - and I am amazed by creative and complex issues which are resolved by a group of geeky greats. So - before I begin to drag this out - I wanted to share in agreement with M

Re: REQ: Better etiquette next week

1999-06-25 Thread Janie
hello all ~ I never posted to this list - maybe once, but I learned. I follow threads of brilliant minds at work and I read - and I am amazed by creative and complex issues which are resolved by a group of geeky greats. So - before I begin to drag this out - I wanted to share in agreement with Mr

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