Re: Sony VAIO, psm and acpi

2003-03-06 Thread User Takawata
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Paul Wankadia wrote: >After seeing the "yet another Sony Vaio PS/2 mouse ID" commits to >src/sys/isa/psm.c from six weeks ago, I've hacked my >src/sys/dev/acpica/acpi.c so now acpi_isa_pnp_probe() will try the >compatibility ID like isa_pnp_probe() does in src/sys/is

/etc/rc.d/ipfw

2003-03-06 Thread Sean Kelly
the ipfw_start() function in /etc/rc.d/ipfw is missing a command: sysctl net.inet.ip.fw.enable=1 edgemaster# /etc/rc.d/ipfw restart net.inet.ip.fw.enable: 1 -> 0 Flushed all rules. ... Firewall rules loaded, starting divert daemons:. edgemaster# sysctl net.inet.ip.fw.enable net.inet.ip.fw.ena

4.8-PRE upgrade to FreeBSD 5 errors

2003-03-06 Thread Axel Gruner
Hi. I cvsuped to FreeBSD 5.0 and i followed the instructions given in /usr/src/UPDATING. buildworld, buildkernel, installkernel went fine. Ok, i had to do a lot of changes in my kernelconfig to get it built and installed, but it went without a major problem. So, i switched to single user mode to

Re: mdmfs broken?

2003-03-06 Thread Stijn Hoop
On Wed, Mar 05, 2003 at 05:36:45PM +0100, Ralf S. Engelschall wrote: > > In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> you wrote: > > > What's the correct syntax in 5-CURRENT to have a memory disk for /tmp > > in your /etc/fstab? > > [...] > > Create a symlink: > > lrwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 5 Feb 13 13:28

Re: 4.8-PRE upgrade to FreeBSD 5 errors

2003-03-06 Thread David Schultz
Thus spake Axel Gruner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Checking to see if your booted Kernel is fresh enough.. > /usr/obj/usr/src/bin/sh/sh -c 'echo "Testing installed kernel fpr new > sigaction(2) syscall"' pid 60424/sh),uid0: exited on signal 12 (core > dumped) Bad system call (core dumped) > ***Error cod

Re: 4.8-PRE upgrade to FreeBSD 5 errors

2003-03-06 Thread Axel Gruner
Hi. On Thu, 6 Mar 2003 00:56:16 -0800 David Schultz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > You need to do things in the order specified in UPDATING. This > message is the result of a sanity check that verifies that you're > running the new kernel before you try to install a new world. Well, i know. I jus

Re: mdmfs broken?

2003-03-06 Thread Ralf S. Engelschall
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> you wrote: >> > What's the correct syntax in 5-CURRENT to have a memory disk for /tmp >> > in your /etc/fstab? >> > [...] >> >> Create a symlink: >> >> lrwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 5 Feb 13 13:28 /sbin/mount_mfs -> mdmfs >> >> and use in /etc/fstab something like

Re: Sony VAIO, psm and acpi

2003-03-06 Thread Paul Wankadia
At 05:11 PM 6/03/03 +0900, User Takawata <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >I also wrote it before. But I didn't commit because I don't tested it. >If you tested your patch, I'll willing to commit. Aye, I did this on my VAIO (PCG-GRX5P) and it seems to work fine... --- acpi.c.old Thu Mar 6 18:48:

Re: elf_loadfile: kernel already loaded

2003-03-06 Thread Daniel C. Sobral
Juli Mallett wrote: Hi, (Trying to boot an alternate kernel on FreeBSD/i386 with normal loader running at a console, loading kernel from a disk.) It looks like after I "unload" the default kernel, and try to "load" a new one, when I go to "boot", loader is trying to load some other kernel, and

Re: potential for foot-shooting with KLD's

2003-03-06 Thread Daniel C. Sobral
Michal Mertl wrote: Imagine you decided to go with modular kernel. You comment out 'device random' in your kernel-config and place 'random_load="YES"' in /boot/loader.conf. When you reboot and don't rebuild the kernel first, you have your machine unbootable - at least in case you previously had ac

Re: potential for foot-shooting with KLD's

2003-03-06 Thread Daniel C. Sobral
Michal Mertl wrote: Imagine you decided to go with modular kernel. You comment out 'device random' in your kernel-config and place 'random_load="YES"' in /boot/loader.conf. When you reboot and don't rebuild the kernel first, you have your machine unbootable - at least in case you previously had ac

Re: can't sshd into box

2003-03-06 Thread leafy
On Thu, Mar 06, 2003 at 09:54:56AM -0300, Daniel C. Sobral wrote: > IIRC, 5.0-R has reverse name resolution for sshd (which is _always_ > done, because of PAM, I think, no matter what the configuration file > say) run chrooted in /var/empty. Well, the problem with that is that, by > default (ie,

Re: Disaster strikes...

2003-03-06 Thread Daniel C. Sobral
walt wrote: After cvsup'ing just now I cannot reboot -CURRENT either with the new kernel or the old kernel. The new kernel panics instantly on boot, and the old kernel halts with multiple messages about ACPI, so I'm stuck with an unbootable machine. What is the command to disable acpi at the boot

Re: -O2 broke ppp NAT

2003-03-06 Thread Khairil Yusof
On Thu, 2003-03-06 at 06:00, Nuno Teixeira wrote: > For the first time I compile current-p3 -> current-p4 with > -march=pentium2 -O2 -mmmx -pipe and aparently everything works ok > except ppp -nat. NAT just don't work on my network. All machines are > able to ping except ftp, http, etc. I can con

Re: Sony VAIO, psm and acpi

2003-03-06 Thread Ollivier Robert
According to User Takawata: > I also wrote it before. But I didn't commit because I don't tested it. > If you tested your patch, I'll willing to commit. It is nice to see that ACPI is working for some VAIO users :( My Z600TEK is still freezing while trying to suspend under ACPI and also if I try t

4.8-RC / 5-CURRENT UFS1 interoperability problem

2003-03-06 Thread Maxim Konovalov
Hello, In short, there is a problem using the same UFS1 filesystem under -stable and -current. Please look at an attached typescript for details. I noticed a wrong superblock information either: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ df /spare Filesystem 1K-blocks UsedAvail Capacity Mounted on /dev/ad0s2a

Re: IPFILTER broken as of world/kernel a few hours old

2003-03-06 Thread Daniel C. Sobral
leafy wrote: > With IPFILTER enabled in the kernel, all socket(2) calls > inbound/outbound are very slow. A normal SSH connection within the > same subnet takes 5 minutes to connect. Anything I can provide to pin > down the problem? Are you sure _all_ socket calls are slow? 5.0-R had reverse reso

Re: 4.8-RC / 5-CURRENT UFS1 interoperability problem

2003-03-06 Thread Ruslan Ermilov
On Thu, Mar 06, 2003 at 05:21:00PM +0300, Maxim Konovalov wrote: > > Hello, > > In short, there is a problem using the same UFS1 filesystem under > -stable and -current. Please look at an attached typescript for > details. > > I noticed a wrong superblock information either: > > [EMAIL PROTECTE

Re: 4.8-RC / 5-CURRENT UFS1 interoperability problem

2003-03-06 Thread Maxim Konovalov
On 16:46+0200, Mar 6, 2003, Ruslan Ermilov wrote: > On Thu, Mar 06, 2003 at 05:21:00PM +0300, Maxim Konovalov wrote: > > > > Hello, > > > > In short, there is a problem using the same UFS1 filesystem under > > -stable and -current. Please look at an attached typescript for > > details. > > > > I n

Re: IPFILTER broken as of world/kernel a few hours old

2003-03-06 Thread leafy
On Thu, Mar 06, 2003 at 11:28:45AM -0300, Daniel C. Sobral wrote: > Are you sure _all_ socket calls are slow? 5.0-R had reverse resolution > for sshd (which happened no matter what the configuration said) run All, including ssh. Only ICMP responds in time. > connection arrives). If blackhole or fi

Re: IPFILTER broken as of world/kernel a few hours old

2003-03-06 Thread leafy
On Thu, Mar 06, 2003 at 11:22:29PM +0800, leafy wrote: > On Thu, Mar 06, 2003 at 11:28:45AM -0300, Daniel C. Sobral wrote: > > Are you sure _all_ socket calls are slow? 5.0-R had reverse resolution > > for sshd (which happened no matter what the configuration said) run > All, including ssh. Only IC

md disk not unmountable

2003-03-06 Thread Stijn Hoop
Hi, I got an 'md' error while doing a 'make release' on a -CURRENT machine; the release process couldn't unmount the boot floppy staging area from /mnt. Testing by hand, I experienced the following: Script started on Thu Mar 6 16:28:31 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] <~> mount | grep /mnt /dev/md1c on

Re: md disk not unmountable

2003-03-06 Thread Stijn Hoop
On Thu, Mar 06, 2003 at 04:35:53PM +0100, Stijn Hoop wrote: > I got an 'md' error while doing a 'make release' on a -CURRENT machine; > the release process couldn't unmount the boot floppy staging area from > /mnt. [snip] > I think something is confused as to what is on /mnt somewhere. Restartin

Re: 4.8-RC / 5-CURRENT UFS1 interoperability problem

2003-03-06 Thread Claude Buisson
Maxim Konovalov wrote: > > Hello, > > In short, there is a problem using the same UFS1 filesystem under > -stable and -current. Please look at an attached typescript for > details. > > I noticed a wrong superblock information either: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ df /spare > Filesystem 1K-blocks U

"blockable sleep lock" panic in latest -current.

2003-03-06 Thread Maxim Konovalov
Hello, Several identical kernel panics with today -current. I suspect recent commits to subr_witness.c. See an attachment for details. -- Maxim Konovalov, [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]Script started on Thu Mar 6 18:42:01 2003 golf# gdb /usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GOLF5/kernel.debug -k vmcore.2

buildkernel breaks with lots of sched_* undefined references

2003-03-06 Thread Francisco Solsona
Hi, I've been using FreeBSD RELENG_5_0 for a while with not many problems, however when trying to switch to current, buildworld goes smoothly, but buildkernel ends in error after a while with a bunch of undefined symbols: kern_proc.o(.text+0xe3): undefined reference to `sched_sizeof_proc' kern_pr

Re: IPFILTER broken as of world/kernel a few hours old

2003-03-06 Thread Terry Lambert
leafy wrote: > On Thu, Mar 06, 2003 at 11:22:29PM +0800, leafy wrote: > > On Thu, Mar 06, 2003 at 11:28:45AM -0300, Daniel C. Sobral wrote: > > > Are you sure _all_ socket calls are slow? 5.0-R had reverse resolution > > > for sshd (which happened no matter what the configuration said) run > > All,

Re: "blockable sleep lock" panic in latest -current.

2003-03-06 Thread Bruce Evans
On Thu, 6 Mar 2003, Maxim Konovalov wrote: > Several identical kernel panics with today -current. I suspect recent > commits to subr_witness.c. See an attachment for details. This seems to be most from a double fault triggering a cascade of errors. There is no frame for the double fault so the cr

Re: -O2 broke ppp NAT

2003-03-06 Thread Bruce Cran
On Thu, Mar 06, 2003 at 09:22:06PM +0800, Khairil Yusof wrote: > On Thu, 2003-03-06 at 06:00, Nuno Teixeira wrote: > > > For the first time I compile current-p3 -> current-p4 with > > -march=pentium2 -O2 -mmmx -pipe and aparently everything works ok > > except ppp -nat. NAT just don't work on my n

RE: boot0cfg

2003-03-06 Thread John Baldwin
On 05-Mar-2003 Daniel O'Connor wrote: > On Thu, 2003-03-06 at 03:26, John Baldwin wrote: >> > It is strange that only F1 works (start Windows XP), while F3 play some >> > sound. Pressing F5 starts Windows XP, but it could be because Windows on >> > my second disk. >> > >> > Yes I know that there

RE: witness: nfs & buf queue

2003-03-06 Thread John Baldwin
On 06-Mar-2003 Jonathan Lemon wrote: > Doing a kernel build over NFS on today's -current gives a pile of > following error messages during the final link phase: > > Acquiring lockmgr lock "nfs" with the following non-sleepablelocks held: > exclusive sleep mutex buf queue lock r = 0 (0xc0427b60) l

Re: IPFILTER broken as of world/kernel a few hours old

2003-03-06 Thread leafy
On Thu, Mar 06, 2003 at 09:00:22AM -0800, Terry Lambert wrote: > > I noticed that port 53 UDP (yes, UDP) gets through fine, though. > > > Try disabling delayed ACK in the TCP stack; it's a sysctl. > > -- Terry Been there, done that. No difference though. Jiawei -- "Without the userland, the k

Loopback device dillema

2003-03-06 Thread Hiten Pandya
Hi gang. As I was playing around with the mbuf code, and came across the loopback device code (if_loop.c). Despite it's ugliness and shoddy code which came with the KAME stuff. Well, the problem is that it's not possible to compile the kernel when you remove the loop device from your config, bec

panic: bwrite: buffer is not busy???

2003-03-06 Thread Morten Rodal
I briefly searched my mailbox for other panics with this panic string, but all the others seem to be due to tcp_input and not the filesystem (as I suspect mine is). The machine is running a SMP kernel built yesterday (Wed Mar 5 22:50:35 CET 2003). Unfortunatly I was not able to save the stack ba

Re: "blockable sleep lock" panic in latest -current.

2003-03-06 Thread Thomas Seck
* Bruce Evans ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > This is the usual panic from sync() in panic() tripping over a lock. > Calling sync() in panic was never safe and now usually fails. Should one set "kern.sync_on_panic" to zero then? --Thomas To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscr

Re: Loopback device dillema

2003-03-06 Thread Brooks Davis
On Thu, Mar 06, 2003 at 01:38:54PM -0500, Hiten Pandya wrote: > To conclude, I would like to see the loopback device made default, and > if this is not agreed upon, then someone needs to fix case when loopback > device is not in the kernel config, and is going to be loaded as a > module. What is g

Re: Loopback device dillema

2003-03-06 Thread Hiten Pandya
Brooks Davis (Thu, Mar 06, 2003 at 11:00:11AM -0800) wrote: > On Thu, Mar 06, 2003 at 01:38:54PM -0500, Hiten Pandya wrote: > > To conclude, I would like to see the loopback device made default, and > > if this is not agreed upon, then someone needs to fix case when loopback > > device is not in th

Re: Loopback device dillema

2003-03-06 Thread Brooks Davis
On Thu, Mar 06, 2003 at 02:06:32PM -0500, Hiten Pandya wrote: > Brooks Davis (Thu, Mar 06, 2003 at 11:00:11AM -0800) wrote: > > On Thu, Mar 06, 2003 at 01:38:54PM -0500, Hiten Pandya wrote: > > > To conclude, I would like to see the loopback device made default, and > > > if this is not agreed upon

Re: witness: nfs & buf queue

2003-03-06 Thread Jonathan Lemon
On Thu, Mar 06, 2003 at 01:01:49PM -0500, John Baldwin wrote: > > On 06-Mar-2003 Jonathan Lemon wrote: > > Doing a kernel build over NFS on today's -current gives a pile of > > following error messages during the final link phase: > > > > Acquiring lockmgr lock "nfs" with the following non-sleepa

Re: Loopback device dillema

2003-03-06 Thread Hiten Pandya
Brooks Davis (Thu, Mar 06, 2003 at 11:15:16AM -0800) wrote: > Not to mention: > > netinet6/{in6_pcb.c,in6_src.c,ip6_input.c,ip6_output.c,nd6.c} > What is gained by making loopback default? Nothing is gained. But it's neccessary fix this, IMHO. Not to mention that our loopback device code looks

Re: Bluetooth stack for FreeBSD

2003-03-06 Thread Christian Brueffer
On Wed, Mar 05, 2003 at 03:24:10PM -0800, Maksim Yevmenkin wrote: > > Dear Hackers, > > I'm very pleased to announce that another release is available for > download at > > http://www.geocities.com/m_evmenkin/ngbt-fbsd-20030305.tar.gz > > The Bluetooth sockets layer has been cleaned up. People

Re: Loopback device dillema

2003-03-06 Thread Brooks Davis
On Thu, Mar 06, 2003 at 02:29:30PM -0500, Hiten Pandya wrote: > > What is gained by making loopback default? > > Nothing is gained. But it's neccessary fix this, IMHO. Not to mention > that our loopback device code looks terribly ugly anyway. :-) I certaintly agree the loop interface could use

Re: Bluetooth stack for FreeBSD

2003-03-06 Thread Maksim Yevmenkin
Hello Christian, [...] Are there any undertakings on the way to update the bluetooth code in -CURRENT to a newer snapshot? As soon as I get at least few positive feedbacks from the testers Julian will commit it :) I do not feel comfortable to commit the code that has only been tested on the limit

Re: panic: bwrite: buffer is not busy???

2003-03-06 Thread Attila Nagy
Hello, > I briefly searched my mailbox for other panics with this panic string, > but all the others seem to be due to tcp_input and not the filesystem > (as I suspect mine is). The machine is running a SMP kernel built > yesterday (Wed Mar 5 22:50:35 CET 2003). Is it like this one? http://www.fr

Re: Bluetooth stack for FreeBSD

2003-03-06 Thread Julian Elischer
yes as soon as we get some +ve feedback about it.. i.e. if it works for you let us know and af we don't hear anything -ve and do hear +ve, we'll commit it :-) (Or rather I'll commit it for Maksim). On Thu, 6 Mar 2003, Christian Brueffer wrote: > > Are there any undertakings on the way to update

Re: witness: nfs & buf queue

2003-03-06 Thread John Baldwin
On 06-Mar-2003 Jonathan Lemon wrote: > On Thu, Mar 06, 2003 at 01:01:49PM -0500, John Baldwin wrote: >> >> On 06-Mar-2003 Jonathan Lemon wrote: >> > Doing a kernel build over NFS on today's -current gives a pile of >> > following error messages during the final link phase: >> > >> > Acquiring lo

Re: SCHED_ULE ok again. feedback please?

2003-03-06 Thread Vallo Kallaste
On Tue, Mar 04, 2003 at 01:25:24AM -0500, Jeff Roberson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'm using SCHED_ULE on my laptop now. My recent round of fixes seems to > have helped out. I'm getting good interactive performance. I'm doing the > following: > > nice -5'd for (;;) {} process. > make -j4 bui

Re: panic: bwrite: buffer is not busy???

2003-03-06 Thread Morten Rodal
On Thu, Mar 06, 2003 at 08:50:41PM +0100, Attila Nagy wrote: > Hello, > > > I briefly searched my mailbox for other panics with this panic string, > > but all the others seem to be due to tcp_input and not the filesystem > > (as I suspect mine is). The machine is running a SMP kernel built > > ye

Re: Loopback device dillema

2003-03-06 Thread Andrew Gallatin
Hiten Pandya writes: > Brooks Davis (Thu, Mar 06, 2003 at 11:15:16AM -0800) wrote: > > Not to mention: > > > > netinet6/{in6_pcb.c,in6_src.c,ip6_input.c,ip6_output.c,nd6.c} > > > What is gained by making loopback default? > > Nothing is gained. But it's neccessary fix this, IMHO. Not

Re: panic: bwrite: buffer is not busy???

2003-03-06 Thread Vladimir Kushnir
On Thu, 6 Mar 2003, Attila Nagy wrote: > Hello, > > > I briefly searched my mailbox for other panics with this panic string, > > but all the others seem to be due to tcp_input and not the filesystem > > (as I suspect mine is). The machine is running a SMP kernel built > > yesterday (Wed Mar 5 22:

Re: panic: bwrite: buffer is not busy???

2003-03-06 Thread Vladimir Kushnir
On Thu, 6 Mar 2003, Morten Rodal wrote: > On Thu, Mar 06, 2003 at 08:50:41PM +0100, Attila Nagy wrote: > > Hello, > > > > > I briefly searched my mailbox for other panics with this panic string, > > > but all the others seem to be due to tcp_input and not the filesystem > > > (as I suspect mine is

Re: Bluetooth stack for FreeBSD

2003-03-06 Thread Christian Brueffer
On Thu, Mar 06, 2003 at 11:41:23AM -0800, Maksim Yevmenkin wrote: > Hello Christian, > > [...] > > >Are there any undertakings on the way to update the bluetooth code > >in -CURRENT to a newer snapshot? > > As soon as I get at least few positive feedbacks from the testers > Julian will commit it

Re: 4.8-PRE upgrade to FreeBSD 5 errors

2003-03-06 Thread David Schultz
Thus spake Axel Gruner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > link_elf: symbol lminor undefined > > > link_elf: symbol splhigh undefined > > You seem to be trying to load outdated modules. > > Hmm, well, so what to do here? I switched of any module in loader.conf. THe location of modules moved between 4.x an

Re: 4.8-PRE upgrade to FreeBSD 5 errors

2003-03-06 Thread Scott Dodson
Sounds as if the new boot loader wasn't installed. I had problems much like this back when I upgraded to 5-current. -- Scott - Original Message - From: "David Schultz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Axel Gruner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2003 8:02 PM

hw.acpi.battery.units not accurate

2003-03-06 Thread Andre Guibert de Bruet
Hi, The hw.acpi.battery.units sysctl doesn't seem to be displaying the correct number of batteries. I'm trying this out on a Dell Latitude C800 with two batteries. The sysctl correctly returns '2', but this is also the value that it displays once either battery is swapped out. hw.acpi.battery.tim

xl: discard frame without packet header

2003-03-06 Thread Juli Mallett
This fixed yet? xl0: discard frame w/o packet header Fatal trap 12: page fault while in kernel mode fault virtual address = 0x1 fault

387 FPU code (Was: Re: -O2 broke ppp NAT)

2003-03-06 Thread Andre Guibert de Bruet
On Thu, 6 Mar 2003, Bruce Cran wrote: > 387 (FPU) code generation seems to be broken in gcc 3.2.1 when -O2 is used. Would you happen to know if this is still broken in 3.2.2? > I can compile applications with no problems when -mfpmath=sse is added so > that the 387 unit won't be used, but witho

Re: hw.acpi.battery.units not accurate

2003-03-06 Thread George Patterson
On Fri, 7 Mar 2003 01:10:54 -0500 (EST) Andre Guibert de Bruet <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, > > The hw.acpi.battery.units sysctl doesn't seem to be displaying the > correct number of batteries. I'm trying this out on a Dell Latitude > C800 with two batteries. The sysctl correctly returns '2

Re: hw.acpi.battery.units not accurate

2003-03-06 Thread Andre Guibert de Bruet
On Fri, 7 Mar 2003, George Patterson wrote: > I have a Toshiba Satellite 1800 laptop (Mostly Acer subsystems). While > the battery.time is incorrect (negative number), the > hw.acpi.battery.units sysctl doesn't change when I swap out the battery. > > Batter Installed > > sysctl hw.acpi.battery >

Re: SCHED_ULE ok again. feedback please?

2003-03-06 Thread Vallo Kallaste
On Thu, Mar 06, 2003 at 10:44:21PM +0200, Vallo Kallaste <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I'm using SCHED_ULE on my laptop now. My recent round of fixes seems to > > have helped out. I'm getting good interactive performance. I'm doing the > > following: > > > > nice -5'd for (;;) {} process. > >

Re: can't sshd into box

2003-03-06 Thread Daniel C. Sobral
IIRC, 5.0-R has reverse name resolution for sshd (which is _always_ done, because of PAM, I think, no matter what the configuration file say) run chrooted in /var/empty. Well, the problem with that is that, by default (ie, in the absence of any configuration in /var/empty/etc) 127.0.0.1 is sear

Re: buildkernel breaks with lots of sched_* undefined references

2003-03-06 Thread Dan Nelson
In the last episode (Mar 06), Francisco Solsona said: > Hi, > > I've been using FreeBSD RELENG_5_0 for a while with not many problems, > however when trying to switch to current, buildworld goes smoothly, > but buildkernel ends in error after a while with a bunch of undefined > symbols: > > kern_

Re: Removal of netns - politically correct version

2003-03-06 Thread William Palfreman
On Wed, 5 Mar 2003, Terry Lambert wrote: > if it can be made to work. I would argue that ISA support is > more or less just as obsolete, as is 486 support, as is the F00F > bug workaround, as is ... a lot of code that's still there. Three of my machines have the F00F bug; my firewall, my print s