>
> I've read the published Code of Conduct here:
>
>
Yes, that's the one I've read too.
> all of the provisions listed appear to me to be reasonable.
>
>
Good. As pointed out above, some of the provisions listed do not sound
reasonable to other people.
> Rather than get all bent out of shape
hi
isn't it always about the whereabouts in time
and/or (by california law)
*being at the same time at the exact same place*
could be sex
or (without and) brawl.
decision is y/ours/mine - with or without coc
from heaven on sunday
martin
On 18/03/2018 08:35, Erich Dollansky wrote:
> Hi,
>
>
Hi,
On Sun, 18 Mar 2018 16:12:44 +1100
Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote:
> [trimming -current@, which is really not appropriate]
>
> On Sunday, 18 March 2018 at 12:40:56 +0800, Erich Dollansky wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > On Sun, 18 Mar 2018 01:08:41 +
> > Kate Dawson wrote:
> >
> >> Actually you sou
Hi,
On Sun, 18 Mar 2018 06:43:47 +0100
"Meixner, Johannes" wrote:
> You must have never been to Southern Germany or Austria.
and Alaska.
Erich
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You must have never been to Southern Germany or Austria.
Anyway, back to the matter at hand:
If things are so bad, how come nobody filed a Community Proposal to
rephrase the code of conduct into a more value-neutral language?
... or, like, a diff to the docs tree?
I would really like this list
Hi,
On Sun, 18 Mar 2018 01:08:41 +
Kate Dawson wrote:
> Actually you sound like you come from under a bridge. You know...
> "Trolling"
it just shows your low education level. You could have checked
maps.google.com.
But you did not.
Erich
>
> xxx
>
> On Sun, Mar 18, 2018 at 07:21:44AM
[trimming -current@, which is really not appropriate]
On Sunday, 18 March 2018 at 12:40:56 +0800, Erich Dollansky wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On Sun, 18 Mar 2018 01:08:41 +
> Kate Dawson wrote:
>
>> Actually you sound like you come from under a bridge. You know...
>> "Trolling"
>
> it just shows your l
Actually you sound like you come from under a bridge. You know...
"Trolling"
xxx
On Sun, Mar 18, 2018 at 07:21:44AM +0800, Erich Dollansky wrote:
> Hi,
>
> just one word. I am from Kissing. My neighbours are from Fucking. I
> bet, the 'CoC' people will discriminate me and my neighbours now.
>
Hi,
just one word. I am from Kissing. My neighbours are from Fucking. I
bet, the 'CoC' people will discriminate me and my neighbours now.
Erich
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Sing it, Geheimnisse!
Tom
On Wed, Mar 7, 2018 at 9:31 PM Geheimnisse
wrote:
> I really cannot wait until all of the people flipping their shit about the
> new CoC go back to not tending to their neck hair and tipping their
> fedoras. Oh, excuse me, trilby hats or whatever they may be.
>
> Ser
Hi, Reference:
> From: Ted Hatfield
> Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2018 13:52:27 -0600 (CST)
Ted Hatfield wrote:
> On Thu, 8 Mar 2018, Federico Caminiti wrote:
> > 2018-03-08 14:07 GMT-03:00 Mike Oliver, KT2T :
> >
> >>
> >> Surely, there is overlap among those who want to use FreeBSD and tho
Hi, Reference:
> From: Geheimnisse
> Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2018 14:31:28 -0500
Geheimnisse wrote:
> Nope, Not a troll.
Troll, added to my black list.
If it has been seen trolling wider, others might report it to
postmas...@freebsd.org &/or ab...@gmail.com.
Cheers,
Julian
--
Julia
Geheimnisse, you are *both* using words from the asshole lexicon and conducting
yourselves poorly. I don't think anyone wants to hear you go on about your
"alt-right" boogyman any more than we want to hear others go on about their
"SJW" boogyman. This whole thing is difficult enough as it is,
On Thu, 8 Mar 2018, Federico Caminiti wrote:
2018-03-08 14:07 GMT-03:00 Mike Oliver, KT2T :
Surely, there is overlap among those who want to use FreeBSD and those
who are embarrassed for the project given how the CoC has been received,
and in that overlap group I can see how some would perceiv
2018-03-08 14:07 GMT-03:00 Mike Oliver, KT2T :
>
> Surely, there is overlap among those who want to use FreeBSD and those
> who are embarrassed for the project given how the CoC has been received,
> and in that overlap group I can see how some would perceive the CoC as
> unnecessary, unnecessarily
Nope, Not a troll. Just protecting myself from alt-right creeps.
Let's see, where to begin? Unironically using the term "cuck" as in "CuckBSD".
Check. Unironically using the term "red pill". Check.
Both of which are exclusively part of the alt-right lexicon.
So, FreeBSD may have a politics prob
On 03/07/2018 21:48, Julian Zottl wrote:
> So I'll ask a stupid question: Why not base it off of the millions of CoC's
> already out there?
> https://abc.xyz/investor/other/google-code-of-conduct.html
> is a good start. Yes, it's a commercial company, but it could easily be
> modified.
>
> The C
On 2018-03-08T17:49:53+0200, Sander Vesik wrote:
Jesus Christ, can you stop being such a complete faggot. People like you
are causing a mockery of FreeBSD, which is now getting called "CuckBSD" by
the very people you want to be using this OS
Well, no, I am fairly certain you are wrong on this
> I really cannot wait until all of the people flipping their shit about the
> new CoC go back to not tending to their neck hair and tipping their fedoras.
> Oh, excuse me, trilby hats or whatever they may be.
>
> Nobody cares aside from a handful of neckbeards, and nobody will care in
> a
Oh, mailed under your pseudonym account because we alt-right types like to
> stalk and harrass people.
>
> On Wed, Mar 7, 2018 at 8:31 PM, Geheimnisse geheimnisse@gmail.com wrote:
>
> > Received: from dunkelheit (\[23.226.128.30\])
> >
> > From: Geheimnisse geheimni
> Mailed under an a pseudonym account because
Troll.
Cheers,
Julian
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Brexit Referendum stole 3,700,000 votes, inc. 700,000 from British in EU.
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> Jesus Christ, can you stop being such a complete faggot. People like you
> are causing a mockery of FreeBSD, which is now getting called "CuckBSD" by
> the very people you want to be using this OS
Well, no, I am fairly certain you are wrong on this part.
h, mailed under your pseudonym account because we alt-right types like to
stalk and harrass people.
On Wed, Mar 7, 2018 at 8:31 PM, Geheimnisse wrote:
>Received: from dunkelheit ([23.226.128.30])
>From: Geheimnisse
>Subject: Re: FreeBSD has a politics problem
>Message-ID
I really cannot wait until all of the people flipping their shit about the new
CoC go back to not tending to their neck hair and tipping their fedoras. Oh,
excuse me, trilby hats or whatever they may be.
Seriously, the new CoC is the opposite of news. Unless you plan to harrass
others online, i
So I'll ask a stupid question: Why not base it off of the millions of CoC's
already out there?
https://abc.xyz/investor/other/google-code-of-conduct.html
is a good start. Yes, it's a commercial company, but it could easily be
modified.
The CoC as it stands is ridiculous. Here is my contribution
Mark Linimon wrote:
> On Mon, Mar 05, 2018 at 11:46:59PM +0100, Julian H. Stacey wrote:
> > I agree with the other person's thoughts that FreeBSD fixes uncommited
> > for years destroys incentive to file more fixes.
>
> I do not know anyone who disagrees with this.
>
> The issue is how to get peo
On Mon, Mar 05, 2018 at 05:17:59PM -0500, Stephen Cook wrote:
> On 2018-03-05 15:51, Mark Linimon wrote:
> > On Mon, Mar 05, 2018 at 02:48:26PM -0500, Stephen Cook wrote:
> >> The problem with the Foundation sponsoring a CoC is that a small group
> >> of extremists forced their way in to generate a
On Mon, Mar 05, 2018 at 11:46:59PM +0100, Julian H. Stacey wrote:
> I agree with the other person's thoughts that FreeBSD fixes uncommited
> for years destroys incentive to file more fixes.
I do not know anyone who disagrees with this.
The issue is how to get people involved with this utterly tha
On Mon, Mar 5, 2018 at 2:46 PM, Julian H. Stacey wrote:
>
> Read https://www.freebsd.org/internal/code-of-conduct.html
> It's a mess of some sense & some ridiculous, force fed to FreeBSD.
> Expect some not to like force feeding, or proponents thereof.
> Expect forceful opposition to force f
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> protected-headers="v1"
> From: Bryan Drewery
> To: "Julian H. Stacey"
> Cc: freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.org, d...@freebsdfoundation.org
> Message-ID: <55739682-e3d2-52fd-15a5-f89d16e2d...@freebsd.org>
> Subject: Re: F
On 2018-03-05 15:51, Mark Linimon wrote:
> On Mon, Mar 05, 2018 at 02:48:26PM -0500, Stephen Cook wrote:
>> The problem with the Foundation sponsoring a CoC is that a small group
>> of extremists forced their way in to generate and implement their own
>> set of rules, secretly.
>
> This is exactly
On Mon, Mar 05, 2018 at 02:48:26PM -0500, Stephen Cook wrote:
> The problem with the Foundation sponsoring a CoC is that a small group
> of extremists forced their way in to generate and implement their own
> set of rules, secretly.
This is exactly not what happened.
> I suspect from the lack of
On 2018-03-05 12:51, Bryan Drewery wrote:
> On 3/4/2018 5:13 PM, Julian H. Stacey wrote:
>> d...@freebsdfoundation.org wrote:
>>> Hi David,
>>>
>>> This is Deb Goodkin, Executive Director for the FreeBSD Foundation. The
>>> Foundation isn't responsible for the CoC, that would be the FreeBSD
>>> Pro
protected-headers="v1"
>> From: Bryan Drewery
>> To: "Julian H. Stacey" , d...@freebsdfoundation.org
>> Cc: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org
>> Message-ID:
>> Subject: Re: FreeBSD has a politics problem
>> References: <201803050114.w251
ewery
> To: "Julian H. Stacey" , d...@freebsdfoundation.org
> Cc: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org
> Message-ID:
> Subject: Re: FreeBSD has a politics problem
> References: <201803050114.w251dv53087...@fire.js.berklix.net>
> In-Reply-To: <201803050114.w251dv53087...@fire.js.berklix.
On 3/4/2018 5:13 PM, Julian H. Stacey wrote:
> d...@freebsdfoundation.org wrote:
>> Hi David,
>>
>> This is Deb Goodkin, Executive Director for the FreeBSD Foundation. The
>> Foundation isn't responsible for the CoC, that would be the FreeBSD
>> Project's core team. Please don't spread mis-informat
On 3/4/2018 10:40 PM, Franco Fichtner wrote:
> Hi there,
>
>> On 4. Mar 2018, at 10:02 PM, Jeff Roberson wrote:
>>
>> First of all this is really not an appropriate forum for this discussion.
> Nobody discusses it elsewhere. "Decisions" are made between closed doors.
> How anyone would think thi
I knew this would be end result of that coc(k) being whipped out.
Also, I'm sure that it's not feminism you hate, it's that some idiots hide
under that blanket and imagine they can't be attacked anymore.
Why did that need for a new set of weird rules come out anyway? Right now
it feels like succe
Hi there,
> On 4. Mar 2018, at 10:02 PM, Jeff Roberson wrote:
>
> First of all this is really not an appropriate forum for this discussion.
Nobody discusses it elsewhere. "Decisions" are made between closed doors.
How anyone would think this doesn't blow up later is at least unreasonable.
> T
I as well am curious
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> On Mar 4, 2018, at 21:31, Stephen Cook wrote:
>
>> On 2018-03-04 20:13, Julian H. Stacey wrote:
>> d...@freebsdfoundation.org wrote:
>>> Someone else on this thread can hopefully
>>> direct you to the correct mailing list for discussing your concerns
>>
On 2018-03-04 20:13, Julian H. Stacey wrote:
> d...@freebsdfoundation.org wrote:
>> Someone else on this thread can hopefully
>> direct you to the correct mailing list for discussing your concerns
>> regarding the Code of Conduct.
Where?
> Did the foundation pay for it ?
I would like to know a
d...@freebsdfoundation.org wrote:
> Hi David,
>
> This is Deb Goodkin, Executive Director for the FreeBSD Foundation. The
> Foundation isn't responsible for the CoC, that would be the FreeBSD
> Project's core team. Please don't spread mis-information about the
> Foundation censoring discussions. S
> My money may not be a sponsorship money but still donated; on belief what
> FreeBSD was doing right. Can I get a refund.
Did the foundation really waste money on this ?
https://www.freebsd.org/internal/code-of-conduct.html
Bulleted elements are a bad mix of sensible & ridiculous.
A fe
lf Of David Fox
Sent: Sunday, March 4, 2018 15:25
To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org
Subject: Re: FreeBSD has a politics problem
Jeff, Please direct me where discussion is suppose to take place. Seeing as
the foundation wants to censor such discussion posts. Pretty calm here but
its irritating t
On 3/4/2018 2:24 PM, David Fox wrote:
> Jeff, Please direct me where discussion is suppose to take place. Seeing as
> the foundation wants to censor such discussion posts. Pretty calm here but
> its irritating that there is no channel, even official to discuss.
Note that Jeff's response was to a
Jeff, Please direct me where discussion is suppose to take place. Seeing as the
foundation wants to censor such discussion posts. Pretty calm here but its
irritating that there is no channel, even official to discuss.
> On 04 March 2018 at 20:45 David Fox wrote:
>
>
> As a young adult user, web
Hi John,
First of all this is really not an appropriate forum for this discussion.
It is really unfortunate that these emails were leaked. However, I think
if you take a careful look at them, you will find a couple examples of
hostility but the great preponderance of them are quite reasonable
On Sat, 03 Mar 2018 17:30:14 -0500
John Darrah wrote:
> FreeBSD recently introduced an updated Code of Conduct that
> developers and members must adhere to. There has been much backlash
> online about it and about introducing identity politics into a
> technical OS project in general. The Code of
Darrah Cc:
freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org, freebsd-curr...@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD
has a politics problem
John,
A good portion of your original email happens to be inaccurate or
misleading. In the spirit of good faith discussion, I'm going to
assume you're just accidentally
John,
A good portion of your original email happens to be inaccurate or
misleading. In the spirit of good faith discussion, I'm going to
assume you're just accidentally misinformed, and not willfully
misrepresenting things. So, some corrections and clarifications
follow.
If you have further que
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