Am 16.02.2013 20:45, schrieb geneb:
> On Sat, 16 Feb 2013, Michael Van Canneyt wrote:
>
>>> I tried something like this before and I was suprised at the dearth of
>>> Lazarus and FreePascal bloggers. Getting Lazarus and FPC developers,
>>> (let alone users) to blog about their experiences is like
Am 14.02.2013 21:34, schrieb Michael Ring:
> I did a grep through the fpc sourcecode and found a reference in
> ./compiler/systems/t_linux.pas in an arm related ifdef section
>
> add(' .note.gnu.build-id : { *(.note.gnu.build-id) }');
>
> so perhaps this is really missing in arm-embedd
On Sun, Feb 17, 2013 at 10:13 AM, Florian Klämpfl wrote:
> Am 16.02.2013 20:45, schrieb geneb:
> > On Sat, 16 Feb 2013, Michael Van Canneyt wrote:
> >
> >>> I tried something like this before and I was suprised at the dearth of
> >>> Lazarus and FreePascal bloggers. Getting Lazarus and FPC develop
Am 17.02.2013 09:55, schrieb ik:
>
>
> On Sun, Feb 17, 2013 at 10:13 AM, Florian Klämpfl
> mailto:flor...@freepascal.org>> wrote:
>
> Am 16.02.2013 20:45, schrieb geneb:
> > On Sat, 16 Feb 2013 , Michael Van Canneyt wrote:
> >
> >>> I tried something like this before and I was su
On Sun, Feb 17, 2013 at 11:35 AM, Florian Klämpfl wrote:
> Am 17.02.2013 09:55, schrieb ik:
> >
> >
> > On Sun, Feb 17, 2013 at 10:13 AM, Florian Klämpfl
> > mailto:flor...@freepascal.org>> wrote:
> >
> > Am 16.02.2013 20:45, schrieb geneb:
> > > On Sat, 16 Feb 2013 , Michael Van Canneyt w
Am 17.02.2013 10:40, schrieb ik:
> > When I hear stuff like "sure pascal is cool but lack of good string
> > support", I think that it is more self explanatory then anything.
> >
> > At the local open source community I'm a known evangelist for Object
> > Pascal, and my blog is
Am 16.02.2013 22:14 schrieb "Michael Van Canneyt" :
>
>
>
> On Sat, 16 Feb 2013, geneb wrote:
>
>> On Sat, 16 Feb 2013, Michael Van Canneyt wrote:
>>
I tried something like this before and I was suprised at the dearth of
Lazarus and FreePascal bloggers. Getting Lazarus and FPC developers,
On Sun, Feb 17, 2013 at 11:43 AM, Florian Klämpfl wrote:
> Am 17.02.2013 10:40, schrieb ik:
> > > When I hear stuff like "sure pascal is cool but lack of good string
> > > support", I think that it is more self explanatory then anything.
> > >
> > > At the local open source communi
Am 17.02.2013 10:53, schrieb ik:
>
> Pascal is only one programming language I use, and only for hobby, not
> for make a living,
The same applies here.
> and that's partly because of you.
Well and partly you :) I'am pretty sure that some of the developers
would blog about their work if somebod
On 17.02.2013 12:58, Florian Klämpfl wrote:
and that's partly because of you.
Well and partly you :) I'am pretty sure that some of the developers
would blog about their work if somebody pays them for blogging. But you
don't do so (obviously I understand this), they have to earn their
living by
Florian Klämpfl wrote:
Am 17.02.2013 10:53, schrieb ik:
Pascal is only one programming language I use, and only for hobby, not
for make a living,
The same applies here.
and that's partly because of you.
Well and partly you :) I'am pretty sure that some of the developers
would blog about t
On 17 February 2013 12:48, Mark Morgan Lloyd
wrote:
> Florian Klämpfl wrote:
>>
>> Am 17.02.2013 10:53, schrieb ik:
>>>
>>> Pascal is only one programming language I use, and only for hobby, not
>>> for make a living,
>>
>>
>> The same applies here.
>>
>>> and that's partly because of you.
>>
>>
>
On 17 February 2013 09:35, Florian Klämpfl wrote:
> Am 17.02.2013 09:55, schrieb ik:
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Feb 17, 2013 at 10:13 AM, Florian Klämpfl
>> mailto:flor...@freepascal.org>> wrote:
>>
>> Am 16.02.2013 20:45, schrieb geneb:
>> > On Sat, 16 Feb 2013 , Michael Van Canneyt wrote:
>> >
On 17.02.2013 14:40, Frank Church wrote:
On 17 February 2013 09:35, Florian Klämpfl wrote:
Am 17.02.2013 09:55, schrieb ik:
On Sun, Feb 17, 2013 at 10:13 AM, Florian Klämpfl
mailto:flor...@freepascal.org>> wrote:
Am 16.02.2013 20:45, schrieb geneb:
> On Sat, 16 Feb 2013 , Michael
Frank Church wrote:
And sometimes, having a high-profile blogger pushing one particular product
can be counterproductive since he ends up a figure of fun.
Would the said high-profile blogger be Zarko of delphi.about.com, who
is referenced here -
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2012/12/11/verity_s
On Sun, Feb 17, 2013 at 1:58 PM, Florian Klämpfl wrote:
> Am 17.02.2013 10:53, schrieb ik:
> >
> > Pascal is only one programming language I use, and only for hobby, not
> > for make a living,
>
> The same applies here.
>
> > and that's partly because of you.
>
> Well and partly you :) I'am pretty
Am 17.02.2013 15:36, schrieb ik:
>
>
> On Sun, Feb 17, 2013 at 1:58 PM, Florian Klämpfl
> Why is it that FPC/K now exists for 20 years as an open source project,
> and you
> can't earn money for developing it,
Actually, I'am not interested in earning money with it.
> while Linus that have an
Am 17.02.2013 09:28, schrieb Florian Klämpfl:
> Am 14.02.2013 21:34, schrieb Michael Ring:
>> I did a grep through the fpc sourcecode and found a reference in
>> ./compiler/systems/t_linux.pas in an arm related ifdef section
>>
>> add(' .note.gnu.build-id : { *(.note.gnu.build-id) }');
>
Hi Florian, I am not sure if this was completely clear to you, this
problem only seems to exist on linux, my primary platform is mac, there
this is not necessary, also not on windows.
After Koenraad expirienced this problem on 30.01.2013 I tried on my
Fedora 18 linux system and found the same
On Sun, Feb 17, 2013 at 5:05 PM, Florian Klämpfl wrote:
>
> Am 17.02.2013 15:36, schrieb ik:
> >
> >
> > On Sun, Feb 17, 2013 at 1:58 PM, Florian Klämpfl
> > Why is it that FPC/K now exists for 20 years as an open source project,
> > and you
> > can't earn money for developing it,
>
> Actually, I
On Sun, 17 Feb 2013, ik wrote:
FPC is still growing so what is your point?
If a tree fall in the forest and no one hear about it, did it made a sound ?
My point is that features are good, but when on one knows about it, then
what's the point of it all ?
I will repeat myself. I have said
Am 17.02.2013 18:10, schrieb ik:
>>
>> For what? For the fun? FPC is probably by far the most successful non
>> company supported oss compiler so I'am sure I know what is important.
>
>
> Yes to solve everything but keep it for yourself :P
Wrong: FPC is OSS so I don't keep it for myself, if peop
On 2/17/2013 04:45, Sven Barth wrote:
Am 16.02.2013 22:14 schrieb "Michael Van Canneyt" :
> True. But I think Florian (or my) time is better spent on actaul coding.
> Let people that like blogs do the blogging.
>
> They're almost certainly going to be better at it.
I'm doing feature announce
On Sun, February 17, 2013 18:10, ik wrote:
.
.
> Yes to solve everything but keep it for yourself :P
You (and many others) can use it (and do so as seen from download
statistics, bug reports, etc.), right?
.
.
> Should I continue, or do you get my point ?
.
.
Better not with this discussi
On 2/17/2013 12:44, Michael Van Canneyt wrote:
What I (and Florian) are trying to say is that our limited time is better spent
on coding than on spreading the news of FPC. But no-one is stopping you from
spreading the news, on the contrary. We'll be glad that you do, because it means
you think FP
Am 17.02.2013 17:50, schrieb Michael Ring:
> Hi Florian, I am not sure if this was completely clear to you, this
> problem only seems to exist on linux, my primary platform is mac, there
> this is not necessary, also not on windows.
Yes I know. But I wonder why linux would need this. This is not h
I did a quick check on Mac & Linux, on both platforms compiling &
loading resulting .elf file into gdb works fine.
Thank you very much,
Michael
Am 17.02.13 19:57, schrieb Florian Klämpfl:
Am 17.02.2013 17:50, schrieb Michael Ring:
Hi Florian, I am not sure if this was completely clear to you
On 17 February 2013 17:10, ik wrote:
> On Sun, Feb 17, 2013 at 5:05 PM, Florian Klämpfl
> wrote:
>>
>> Am 17.02.2013 15:36, schrieb ik:
>> >
>> >
>> > On Sun, Feb 17, 2013 at 1:58 PM, Florian Klämpfl
>> > Why is it that FPC/K now exists for 20 years as an open source project,
>> > and you
>> >
Hi,
Simple "hello world" application created in QT Creator has only basic QT
dependencies (libqtgui, libqtcore and libqtwidgets). But Qt4Pas has static
linked api for all QT modules, so creating "hello world" in free pascal
need also libqtnetworking, libwebkit (33 MB!) and even libsqlite and more.
Am 17.02.2013 20:31, schrieb Frank Church:
> One more thing lest I forget. The official FPC documentation is very
> good, especially for documents created by volunteers and hobbyists.
> That it is not accompanied by examples
c:\fpc\docs>dir ex*.pp /s | grep -c ex
668
What do I miss?
On Sun, Feb 17, 2013 at 9:31 PM, Frank Church wrote:
> On 17 February 2013 17:10, ik wrote:
>> On Sun, Feb 17, 2013 at 5:05 PM, Florian Klämpfl
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Am 17.02.2013 15:36, schrieb ik:
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > On Sun, Feb 17, 2013 at 1:58 PM, Florian Klämpfl
>>> > Why is it that FPC/K now e
On 17 February 2013 19:35, Florian Klämpfl wrote:
> Am 17.02.2013 20:31, schrieb Frank Church:
>> One more thing lest I forget. The official FPC documentation is very
>> good, especially for documents created by volunteers and hobbyists.
>> That it is not accompanied by examples
>
> c:\fpc\docs>di
>
> From: ik
>To: FPC-Pascal users discussions
>Sent: Sunday, February 17, 2013 5:30 PM
>Subject: Re: [fpc-pascal] OT a bit - Planet Object Pascal
>
>
>I don't need an IDE to develop Pascal, unlike Java for example, I can use VIM
>(and actually sometimes do), to
On Sun, Feb 17, 2013 at 10:57 PM, Frank Church wrote:
> On 17 February 2013 19:35, Florian Klämpfl wrote:
>> Am 17.02.2013 20:31, schrieb Frank Church:
>>> One more thing lest I forget. The official FPC documentation is very
>>> good, especially for documents created by volunteers and hobbyists.
On Sun, Feb 17, 2013 at 10:59 PM, Leonardo M. Ramé wrote:
>>
>> From: ik
>>To: FPC-Pascal users discussions
>>Sent: Sunday, February 17, 2013 5:30 PM
>>Subject: Re: [fpc-pascal] OT a bit - Planet Object Pascal
>>
>>
>>I don't need an IDE to develop Pascal, unlike
In our previous episode, Juha Manninen said:
> There is an OpenGL unit named dglOpenGL, maintained by
> www.delphigl.com, and used by many projects.
>
> I want to use the units provided by FPC instead, namely GL, GLu and GLext.
> Mostly everything can be found from those units, except for one func
On 17 February 2013 20:30, ik wrote:
> On Sun, Feb 17, 2013 at 9:31 PM, Frank Church wrote:
>> On 17 February 2013 17:10, ik wrote:
>>> On Sun, Feb 17, 2013 at 5:05 PM, Florian Klämpfl
>>> wrote:
Am 17.02.2013 15:36, schrieb ik:
>
>
> On Sun, Feb 17, 2013 at 1:58 PM,
On 2/17/2013 14:35, Florian Klämpfl wrote:
Am 17.02.2013 20:31, schrieb Frank Church:
One more thing lest I forget. The official FPC documentation is very
good, especially for documents created by volunteers and hobbyists.
That it is not accompanied by examples
c:\fpc\docs>dir ex*.pp /s | grep
Am Sunday 17 February 2013 18:45:50 schrieb Florian Klämpfl:
> Am 17.02.2013 18:10, schrieb ik:
> > Nice, Pascal is at the same level of usage and exposure as gcc, Linux
> > kernel and llvm,
>
> And you think some fancy webpage filled with java script (which is
> turned off in my browser) would cha
On 2/17/2013 19:40, Rainer Stratmann wrote:
Am Sunday 17 February 2013 18:45:50 schrieb Florian Klämpfl:
Am 17.02.2013 18:10, schrieb ik:
Nice, Pascal is at the same level of usage and exposure as gcc, Linux
kernel and llvm,
And you think some fancy webpage filled with java script (which is
t
On Sunday 17 of February 2013 20:31:32 Krzysztof wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Simple "hello world" application created in QT Creator has only basic QT
> dependencies (libqtgui, libqtcore and libqtwidgets). But Qt4Pas has static
> linked api for all QT modules, so creating "hello world" in free pascal
> need a
On Sun, Feb 17, 2013 at 11:24 PM, Frank Church wrote:
> On 17 February 2013 20:30, ik wrote:
>> On Sun, Feb 17, 2013 at 9:31 PM, Frank Church wrote:
>>> On 17 February 2013 17:10, ik wrote:
On Sun, Feb 17, 2013 at 5:05 PM, Florian Klämpfl
wrote:
>
> Am 17.02.2013 15:36, schr
waldo kitty schrieb:
>On 2/17/2013 14:35, Florian Klämpfl wrote:
>> Am 17.02.2013 20:31, schrieb Frank Church:
>>> One more thing lest I forget. The official FPC documentation is very
>>> good, especially for documents created by volunteers and hobbyists.
>>> That it is not accompanied by examp
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