Hi,
Please continue further specific discussions about Lazarus and/or
fpGUI in the fpc-other list and/or the Lazarus list, as a appropriate.
Thanks,
Jonas
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On 09.11.2016 10:51, Graeme Geldenhuys wrote:
There is a "Restricted" tab which lists features of
each widget that works on some LCL interfaces but not on others. That
list is not 100% complete either.
Great !
With "TForm" I see General Widget Set Restrictions "1" "3" "1" and "12"
together with
On 09.11.2016 10:21, Graeme Geldenhuys wrote:
The widget type
options are now only visible for LCL based applications too.
I see. That was my fault.
Thanks,
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On 09.11.2016 10:14, Graeme Geldenhuys wrote:
Myself and others have quite easily ported some VCL components
to fpGUI with fairly little effort.
So it's sad that the results do not seem to feed the fpGUI WidgetType in
the LCL :(
(Of course this is meant just as a statement not as a complaint t
On 09.11.2016 08:28, Lars wrote:
So you
weren't trying to imply that lazarus, could be recompiled to use fpgui
based widgets inside the lazarus exe/elf itself?
The Lazarus IDE is just a project that can be compiled using fpc and
the LCL library. It makes no difference whether using the IDE to c
On 09.11.2016 08:28, Lars wrote:
O However, how compatible are
these widget sets with each other?
I understand that the "write once compile (and run) everywhere" paradigm
of Lazarus suggests that all WidgetTypes you can use to (cross-) compile
a project to run on a dedicated target (defined by
On 09.11.2016 08:31, Lars wrote:
Doesn't fpgui take a different approach to programming, so if you start a
project in win32/gtk style, you can't easily port it to fpgui due to
enormous differences here and there in the way gui programming is done..
As Greame pointed out there are two different t
> Does ideU support multiple programming languages as an editor?
Yes, MSEide (and ideU) has syntax highlighter for Pascal, C, Python, Ipf,
sql.
I am busy with a Java syntax highlighter.
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Graeme Geldenhuys wrote:
> On 2016-11-08 11:04, Michael Schnell wrote:
> > Sadly in my compiled "trunk" version 1.7 on Linux the <"LCLWidgetType">
> > drop down menu is not shown any more :-(.
>
> The redesign of Lazarus's compiler options dialog, is now dep
On 2016-11-09 04:59, Lars wrote:
> Does ideU support multiple programming languages as an editor? Without
> trying it myself, for example, does it include multiple syntax
> highlighters?
Yes, ideU and MSEide support multiple syntax highlighters.
> can you write your own syntax highlighter?
Yes,
On 2016-11-09 07:28, Lars wrote:
> However, how compatible are
> these widget sets with each other?
All LCL widgetsets (interfaces) are supposed to be 100% compatible. Lets
take the simplest case. A new application with a single button on the
main form. That will work no matter which LCL widgetset
On 2016-11-08 11:04, Michael Schnell wrote:
> Sadly in my compiled "trunk" version 1.7 on Linux the <"LCLWidgetType">
> drop down menu is not shown any more :-(.
The redesign of Lazarus's compiler options dialog, is now dependent on
the project type as well. So the LCLWidgetType combobox is only
On 2016-11-09 07:31, Lars wrote:
> Doesn't fpgui take a different approach to programming, so if you start a
> project in win32/gtk style, you can't easily port it to fpgui due to
If you are developing a LCL based application, you can simply toggle
between the available LCL widgetsets. eg: LCL-GTK
On 2016-11-08 10:24, Michael Schnell wrote:
> So I can't tell if FpGUI (i.e. the LCL-Version of same) is still
> available.
Yes it is still a option in Lazarus. The only thing that changed in
newer Lazarus versions, is that they redesigned the compiler options
dialogs (made them more complex, but
On 2016-11-09 04:57, Lars wrote:
> Thanks for clarifying. I have always wanted to try fpGUI, but it's always
> the same fear that stops me: like msegui, the issue is there is no
> torry.net
Unlike MSEgui, fpGUI is much closer in widget design and usage to VCL
and LCL. Myself and others have quit
On Tue, November 8, 2016 3:24 am, Michael Schnell wrote:
> On 08.11.2016 03:12, Lars wrote:
> "FpGUI" used to be an option (one of a selection of Widget Types,
> together with e.g. "GTK2", "CustomDraw", ...). At some point in time the
> "WidgetType" menu in the project options had been replaced by
On Tue, November 8, 2016 4:04 am, Michael Schnell wrote:
> On 08.11.2016 03:12, Lars wrote:
>
>>
>> Does lazarus even know about fpGUI
>>
> Version 1.6 on Windows: even in the GUI:
> Project -> Project Options -> Additions and Overrides -> Set
> "LCLWidgetType" -> Drop Down selection Value "fpgui".
On 08.11.2016 03:12, Lars wrote:
Does lazarus even know about fpGUI
Version 1.6 on Windows: even in the GUI:
Project -> Project Options -> Additions and Overrides -> Set
"LCLWidgetType" -> Drop Down selection Value "fpgui".
Sadly in my compiled "trunk" version 1.7 on Linux the <"LCLWidgetTy
On 08.11.2016 11:29, Graeme Geldenhuys wrote:
On 2016-11-08 10:00, Michael Schnell wrote:
While this is perfectly possible,
It's not about "is perfectly possible",
I meant "It's perfectly possible that it does not work (yet)" ;-).
-Michael
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On 08.11.2016 03:12, Lars wrote:
Or you were mistaken to think fpGUI was an option in lazarus?
"FpGUI" used to be an option (one of a selection of Widget Types,
together with e.g. "GTK2", "CustomDraw", ...). At some point in time the
"WidgetType" menu in the project options had been replaced b
On Tue, November 8, 2016 2:45 am, Graeme Geldenhuys wrote:
> What Fred did with polYDev is create a minimal (read very small) fully
> functional FreeBSD install, that supports desktop development using FPC,
> includes a IDE (ideU a fork of MSEide with tons of custom modifications)
Does ideU suppor
On Tue, November 8, 2016 2:56 am, Graeme Geldenhuys wrote:
> Yes, that changed about 9 years ago. :) And no, fpGUI is *not* a non
> visual development environment. fpGUI comes with its own Visual Forms
> Designer, Help Viewer, demo IDE and many more.
Thanks for clarifying. I have always wanted to
> if you want Lazarus support, it means you need to install large 3rd
> party dependencies and Lazarus itself, which will bloat the OS by
> 500MB-1000MB more hard disk space.
Huh, yes but this only for the main system.
If you want a poly-compiling system (like polYdev) you need to install also
al
On 2016-11-08 10:00, Michael Schnell wrote:
> While this is perfectly possible,
It's not about "is perfectly possible", it is how LCL functions. The LCL
requires a underlying toolkit, and the big three are Qt, GTK and Win32.
LCL is just wrapper over those toolkits and represents a common API to
th
On 07.11.2016 22:57, fredvs wrote:
Maybe I did not understand well.
AFAIK, for Unix os, Lazarus and LCL-widget-set need a "big native"
widget-set, like GTK, KDE or Qt.
While this is perfectly possible, IMHO it's not the way it should stay.
The LCL is intended to provide compatible support for
On 2016-11-08 02:12, Lars wrote:
> Does lazarus even know about fpGUI
Yes, there is a LCL-fpGUI widgetset. It is still in alpha state, but all
Standard component palette widgets (except TLabel) is supported, quite a
few others too, as is all the dialogs and some WinAPI calls (eg:
ShowMessage).
On 2016-11-07 09:48, Michael Schnell wrote:
> I understand that you suggest you can't build the Lazarus IDE with
> defining fpGUI or CustomDrwan instead of Qt or Gnome (or Windows or
> Cocos).
What Fred did with polYDev is create a minimal (read very small) fully
functional FreeBSD install, th
On Mon, November 7, 2016 2:48 am, Michael Schnell wrote:
> I understand that you suggest you can't build the Lazarus IDE with
> defining fpGUI or CustomDrwan instead of Qt or Gnome (or Windows or
> Cocos).
>
>
Does lazarus even know about fpGUI I thought fpgui was never a part of
lazarus.. d
> I understand that you suggest you can't build the Lazarus IDE with defining
fpGUI or CustomDrwan instead of Qt or Gnome (or Windows or Cocos).
Maybe I did not understand well.
AFAIK, for Unix os, Lazarus and LCL-widget-set need a "big native"
widget-set, like GTK, KDE or Qt.
IMO (maybe I am
On 05.11.2016 13:40, fredvs wrote:
Lazarus needs those big widgetsets. But if you install Qt or Gnome on
...
And, of course, fpGUI and MSEgui applications can run on a Gnome or Qt
system.
I understand that you suggest you can't build the Lazarus IDE with
defining fpGUI or CustomDrwan instead
> so does polYdev not include lazarus
Hello.
polYdev is a "Pure X" OS. "Pure X" because it does not use big widgetset
like Gnome, Qt, ... for gui applications.
Lazarus needs those big widgetsets. But if you install Qt or Gnome on
polYdev (pkg install qt), of course you may install Lazarus.
fpG
On 2016-11-05 06:35, Lars wrote:
> to cross compile; so does polYdev not include lazarus and only focuses on
> fpc/mse/fpgui? If you wanted to cross compile a lazarus app... no go?
I haven't tested with Lazarus, but to install it, simply use git and
clone the Laz repository (from Github) and do a
On Thu, November 3, 2016 4:33 pm, Graeme Geldenhuys wrote:
> On 2016-11-03 20:57, Paul Breneman wrote:
>
>> The short/small video showing the same program being compiled and run
>> for 5 systems (FreeBSD 64/32, Linux 64/32 and Windows 32 bit) is *very*
>> nice!
>
> Yes, its even simpler to do cross
@ Paul & Graeme: many thanks ;-)
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On 2016-11-03 20:57, Paul Breneman wrote:
> The short/small video showing the same program being compiled and run
> for 5 systems (FreeBSD 64/32, Linux 64/32 and Windows 32 bit) is *very*
> nice!
Yes, its even simpler to do cross-compiling with polYdev that it is with
Code Typhon. Fred did a fan
On 09/04/2015 09:00 AM, fredvs wrote:
Hello.
There is a new FreeBSD "pure X" distro with fpc 2.6.4 and fpc 3.0.0
installed.
https://forums.freebsd.org/threads/polydev-the-pure-x-freebsd-distribution.53085/
Take a look at "/About poly-cross-compilation./" in end of page.
Fre;D
I just tried t
> After increasing the memory I'm up and running. Thanks!
Fantastic ;-)
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On 09/05/2015 04:46 PM, Fred van Stappen wrote:
I've tried the *beta.0.1.iso several times on VMware 11 and it always
shows the pretty splash screen then fails to mount the root. Is there
anything you suggest I try?
Re-re hello.
After testing here...
Impossible to run a FreeBSD bootable-iso
On 09/04/2015 02:41 PM, Fred van Stappen wrote:
That will be very convenient for setting up quick
development VM's per project or client.
Thanks Graeme :-)
Huh, you may use it as VM project but as iso-live cdrom/ usb too.
And you may also install it to device, like your main server ;-).
Che
> That will be very convenient for setting up quick
> development VM's per project or client.
Thanks Graeme :-)
Huh, you may use it as VM project but as iso-live cdrom/ usb too.
And you may also install it to device, like your main server ;-).
Cheers.
Fre;D
On 2015-09-04 15:00, fredvs wrote:
> There is a new FreeBSD "pure X" distro with fpc 2.6.4 and fpc 3.0.0
> installed.
Nicely done Fred! That will be very convenient for setting up quick
development VM's per project or client.
Regards,
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