Re: [fpc-pascal] Systems 2005: A first summary

2005-10-30 Thread Vincent Snijders
Jonas Maebe wrote: On 29 Oct 2005, at 22:51, Éric DÉTREZ wrote: I know how to start X11. Is it the right X-Windows ? Yes. But how to start then Lazarus ? Simply typing "lazarus" in the xterm window should work. If it doesn't, try /usr/local/bin/lazarus I am not sure there is a sy

Re: [fpc-pascal] Systems 2005: A first summary

2005-10-29 Thread L505
>I am in favor of uniting this parts. I think it adds a lot to both of >the projects. Specially we should take a good look on how to improve >the security on the websites. A 100 percent Pascal based, secure Web Forum, Content Management System (CMS), Wiki, Bug Reporter, and program/unit Repos

Re: [fpc-pascal] Systems 2005: A first summary

2005-10-29 Thread Tony Pelton
On 10/29/05, Sebastian Günther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Tony Pelton schrieb: > > > another thing that most java ide's do, which may or may not apply to > > lazarus, is that most IDE's have the ability to support more than one > > compiler suite at a time. > > Yes but that is quite meaningless f

Re: [fpc-pascal] Systems 2005: A first summary

2005-10-29 Thread Sebastian Günther
Tony Pelton schrieb: > well, firstly, there appears to be at least one other decent IDE that > i know of : > > http://www.bloodshed.net/devpascal.html > > but in any event, i'm not sure why that distinction is important. Lazarus is the IDE important for over 95% of all people. > i think the p

Re: [fpc-pascal] Systems 2005: A first summary

2005-10-29 Thread Tony Pelton
On 10/29/05, Sebastian Günther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Tony Pelton schrieb: > > > > their (sun's) model is one where they offer the bundle that you need, > > where you may want a big thick bundle with the Java compiler and > > runtime and IDE, or you may already have the Java runtime and > > c

Re: [fpc-pascal] Systems 2005: A first summary

2005-10-29 Thread Sebastian Günther
Mattias Gaertner schrieb: > > Note: > Lazarus has different release dates than FPC, so bug tracking and download > directories should only have related pages, but the difference must stay > clear for the user. For instance the released and stable FPC 2.0 should not > be confused with the lazarus b

Re: [fpc-pascal] Systems 2005: A first summary

2005-10-29 Thread Jonas Maebe
On 29 Oct 2005, at 22:51, Éric DÉTREZ wrote: I know how to start X11. Is it the right X-Windows ? Yes. But how to start then Lazarus ? Simply typing "lazarus" in the xterm window should work. If it doesn't, try /usr/local/bin/lazarus Jonas

Re: [fpc-pascal] Systems 2005: A first summary

2005-10-29 Thread Felipe Monteiro de Carvalho
On 10/29/05, Sebastian Günther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Tony Pelton schrieb: > For Java the situation is different. There are lots of IDEs, but Free > Pascal has only one major IDE. > Of course the talk is _not_ about a complete fusion of FPC and Lazarus. > 'Only' the following parts should be

Re: [fpc-pascal] Systems 2005: A first summary

2005-10-29 Thread Mattias Gaertner
On Sat, 29 Oct 2005 23:38:10 +0200 Sebastian Günther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Tony Pelton schrieb: > > > > their (sun's) model is one where they offer the bundle that you need, > > where you may want a big thick bundle with the Java compiler and > > runtime and IDE, or you may already have th

Re: [fpc-pascal] Systems 2005: A first summary

2005-10-29 Thread Sebastian Günther
Tony Pelton schrieb: > > their (sun's) model is one where they offer the bundle that you need, > where you may want a big thick bundle with the Java compiler and > runtime and IDE, or you may already have the Java runtime and > compiler, and just need the IDE. For Java the situation is different.

Re: [fpc-pascal] Systems 2005: A first summary

2005-10-29 Thread Tony Pelton
On 10/29/05, Florian Klaempfl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > L505 wrote: > > >> > >>I think that FPC has to remain FPC, a language + compiler just like GCC. > >>IDE and Lazarus could be run on top of FPC, like many IDE run on top of > >>GCC. that would be my preference, not that my preferences matte

Re: [fpc-pascal] Systems 2005: A first summary

2005-10-29 Thread Éric DÉTREZ
Le 29 oct. 05 à 22:16, Paul Davidson a écrit : One must start X-Windows from terminal, then start Lazarus. I know how to start X11. Is it the right X-Windows ? But how to start then Lazarus ? I really feel stupid. ÉrIc Détrez Mathématiques & informatique (Faidherbe Lille) Europe pas morte

Re: [fpc-pascal] Systems 2005: A first summary

2005-10-29 Thread Mattias Gaertner
On Sat, 29 Oct 2005 13:38:05 -0700 L505 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > No, this doesn't match with our experiences we had at the systems: a lot > > of people said, yes, I tried fpc but I didn't like to work with the > > command line. When we asked, did you try lazarus, the answer was, no, I > >

Re: [fpc-pascal] Systems 2005: A first summary

2005-10-29 Thread Paul Davidson
One must start X-Windows from terminal, then start Lazarus. You could also try this site. All are .dmg files, friendly to Macs Try http://www.ca.freepascal.org/Lazarus/ On Oct 29, 2005, at 16:11, Éric DÉTREZ wrote: Le 29 oct. 05 à 21:22, Florian Klaempfl a écrit : When we asked, did you try

Re: [fpc-pascal] Systems 2005: A first summary

2005-10-29 Thread Éric DÉTREZ
Le 29 oct. 05 à 21:22, Florian Klaempfl a écrit : When we asked, did you try lazarus, the answer was, no, I didn't know about it. So I try lazarus. I download it (Lazarus, new fpc, fpcsrc (?)) But I don't find it anywhere. No lazarus, even in the Terminal. I'm a mac osx user. Can anybody he

Re: [fpc-pascal] Systems 2005: A first summary

2005-10-29 Thread L505
> In an FAQ section: > > Question: > What is FPC exactly, and what is lazarus? > > Answer: > If you come from a delphi background, consider FPC like DCC. FPC is not an > IDE, just like > DCC is not an IDE. > > Question: > What is DCC, I don't know what that stands for? > > Answer: > That is t

Re: [fpc-pascal] Systems 2005: A first summary

2005-10-29 Thread L505
> No, this doesn't match with our experiences we had at the systems: a lot > of people said, yes, I tried fpc but I didn't like to work with the > command line. When we asked, did you try lazarus, the answer was, no, I > didn't know about it. Of course, but I don't think you mean mean the project

Re: [fpc-pascal] Systems 2005: A first summary

2005-10-29 Thread Florian Klaempfl
L505 wrote: I got few suggestions, especially to target more Delphi developers. 1. Maybe it'll better for public and new users to know 1 product instead of two: FPC (the compiler) and Lazarus (the IDE). Just like Delphi for the compiler and the IDE in a single package. I still got many times qu

Re: [fpc-pascal] Systems 2005: A first summary

2005-10-29 Thread L505
> > I got few suggestions, especially to target more Delphi developers. > > > > 1. Maybe it'll better for public and new users to know 1 product > > instead of two: FPC (the compiler) and Lazarus (the IDE). Just like > > Delphi for the compiler and the IDE in a single package. I still got > > many

Re: [fpc-pascal] Systems 2005: A first summary

2005-10-29 Thread Jilani Khaldi
I got few suggestions, especially to target more Delphi developers. 1. Maybe it'll better for public and new users to know 1 product instead of two: FPC (the compiler) and Lazarus (the IDE). Just like Delphi for the compiler and the IDE in a single package. I still got many times question l

Re: [fpc-pascal] Systems 2005: A first summary

2005-10-28 Thread Bisma Jayadi
It's a great news to know FPC and Lazarus getting more and more popular and starting to be counted in serious software development. I'm really glad to hear and see this. :) I got few suggestions, especially to target more Delphi developers. 1. Maybe it'll better for public and new users to kno

Re: [fpc-pascal] Systems 2005: A first summary

2005-10-28 Thread L505
> Hello *, > > I've written a first small summary about our experiences at Systems 2005 in > Munich, Germany, this week: > http://www.freepascal.org/wiki/index.php/Systems_2005 > > probably more detailed information will follow within the next few days. > > > Regards, > Sebastian > Those a

[fpc-pascal] Systems 2005: A first summary

2005-10-28 Thread Sebastian Guenther
Hello *, I've written a first small summary about our experiences at Systems 2005 in Munich, Germany, this week: http://www.freepascal.org/wiki/index.php/Systems_2005 probably more detailed information will follow within the next few days. Regards, Sebastian -- Telefonieren Sie schon oder spa