On 10/29/05, Florian Klaempfl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > L505 wrote: > > >> > >>I think that FPC has to remain FPC, a language + compiler just like GCC. > >>IDE and Lazarus could be run on top of FPC, like many IDE run on top of > >>GCC.
that would be my preference, not that my preferences matter in the slightest. i think the GCC analogy is right. > > No, this doesn't match with our experiences we had at the systems: a lot > of people said, yes, I tried fpc but I didn't like to work with the > command line. When we asked, did you try lazarus, the answer was, no, I > didn't know about it. FPC is a darn sweet little compiler and could/should become as common on Linux at least as bash and perl and GCC are now so that it will see more adoption as an alternative to 'C'. i know that is why i've become an FPC convert. i got tired of pulling my hair out with 'C' for some of the small toys i was playing with for my flight simulator plugin work, but my "other" language, Java, just wasn't up to the task of building lightweight and performant code. this is when i "discovered" Pascal and the FreePascal compiler tools. i will admit that it took me a while to figure out how Lazarus was related, and i found the FreePascal and Lazarus sites confusing at first. i think the one, most productive thing, both projects could do for themselves, and for the community at large, is to bring the two entities together, into a more cohesive looking and feeling website and to market them as layers of building blocks for doing plain pascal development with minimal tools or as a larger set of tools for doing GUI RAD. but again, i wouldn't change them architecturally, other than maybe making integrated, easy to use/install "bundles" out of them. FreePascal and Lazarus might want to look to how Sun and the Netbeans project have aligned the Java tools and the Netbeans IDE. http://www.netbeans.org/downloads/index.html this seems like an analagous model to that of FPC and Lazarus. their (sun's) model is one where they offer the bundle that you need, where you may want a big thick bundle with the Java compiler and runtime and IDE, or you may already have the Java runtime and compiler, and just need the IDE. imho, this would be the perfect strategy for FPC and Lazarus. Tony _______________________________________________ fpc-pascal maillist - fpc-pascal@lists.freepascal.org http://lists.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/fpc-pascal