Re: [fpc-pascal] OT a bit - Planet Object Pascal

Graeme Geldenhuys wrote: On 2013-02-19 14:01, Martin wrote: At some time, I stumbled over this: http://wiki.lazarus.freepascal.org/Alternative_Main_Page That would be a MUCH better main page. Clear topics that are easy to see and read. It would need some minor additions, but over all, much bet

Re: [fpc-pascal] OT a bit - Planet Object Pascal

On 2013-02-19 14:01, Martin wrote: > > At some time, I stumbled over this: > http://wiki.lazarus.freepascal.org/Alternative_Main_Page That would be a MUCH better main page. Clear topics that are easy to see and read. It would need some minor additions, but over all, much better than the default

Re: [fpc-pascal] OT a bit - Planet Object Pascal

On 19/02/2013 13:21, Zaher Dirkey wrote: On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 1:31 PM, Martin > wrote: Here is another page, not as many pictures, but a good list of useful features: http://wiki.lazarus.freepascal.org/Lazarus_IDE_Tools I meant we need recategory this a

Re: [fpc-pascal] OT a bit - Planet Object Pascal

On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 1:31 PM, Martin wrote: > > Here is another page, not as many pictures, but a good list of useful > features: http://wiki.lazarus.freepascal.org/Lazarus_IDE_Tools ​I meant we need recategory this articles under a good index/tree, so we can start from home index to discove

Re: [fpc-pascal] OT a bit - Planet Object Pascal

On 19/02/2013 09:43, Zaher Dirkey wrote: On Mon, Feb 18, 2013 at 10:26 PM, Frank Church > wrote: > v1.0 release. > > http://wiki.freepascal.org/New_IDE_features_since > This is a very useful page. I didn't know that Lazarus was that well feat

Re: [fpc-pascal] OT a bit - Planet Object Pascal

On 2013-02-18 20:26, Frank Church wrote: > What steps to I follow? Install the package and recompile the IDE - as with any IDE plugin. The empty editor toolbar should appear in the Editor Window. Only two buttons should exist. "Configure" - the left most button, as can be seen from the screenshot.

Re: [fpc-pascal] OT a bit - Planet Object Pascal

On Mon, Feb 18, 2013 at 10:26 PM, Frank Church wrote: > > v1.0 release. > > > > http://wiki.freepascal.org/New_IDE_features_since > > > > This is a very useful page. I didn't know that Lazarus was that well > featured. Yes, we didn't know that, that is the problem, there is no good map in th

Re: [fpc-pascal] OT a bit - Planet Object Pascal

On 2/18/2013 02:40, Florian Klämpfl wrote: waldo kitty schrieb: On 2/17/2013 14:35, Florian Klämpfl wrote: Am 17.02.2013 20:31, schrieb Frank Church: One more thing lest I forget. The official FPC documentation is very good, especially for documents created by volunteers and hobbyists. Tha

Re: [fpc-pascal] OT a bit - Planet Object Pascal

On 18 February 2013 11:19, Graeme Geldenhuys wrote: > On 2013-02-17 13:40, Frank Church wrote: >> >> My beef is mostly with Lazarus developers. They are more at fault here >> as a lot of the new features which make a good difference to >> productivity tend go unannounced or unnoticed. > > That's w

Re: [fpc-pascal] OT a bit - Planet Object Pascal

On Mon, February 18, 2013 01:40, Rainer Stratmann wrote: > Am Sunday 17 February 2013 18:45:50 schrieb Florian Klämpfl: >> Am 17.02.2013 18:10, schrieb ik: >> > Nice, Pascal is at the same level of usage and exposure as gcc, Linux >> > kernel and llvm, >> >> And you think some fancy webpage filled

Re: [fpc-pascal] OT a bit - Planet Object Pascal

Sven Barth wrote: On 18.02.2013 12:19, Graeme Geldenhuys wrote: On 2013-02-17 13:40, Frank Church wrote: My beef is mostly with Lazarus developers. They are more at fault here as a lot of the new features which make a good difference to productivity tend go unannounced or unnoticed. That's w

Re: [fpc-pascal] OT a bit - Planet Object Pascal

On 17 February 2013 13:54, Mark Morgan Lloyd wrote: > Frank Church wrote: > >>> And sometimes, having a high-profile blogger pushing one particular >>> product >>> can be counterproductive since he ends up a figure of fun. >> >> >> Would the said high-profile blogger be Zarko of delphi.about.com,

Re: [fpc-pascal] OT a bit - Planet Object Pascal

On 18.02.2013 12:19, Graeme Geldenhuys wrote: On 2013-02-17 13:40, Frank Church wrote: My beef is mostly with Lazarus developers. They are more at fault here as a lot of the new features which make a good difference to productivity tend go unannounced or unnoticed. That's why I created the fo

Re: [fpc-pascal] OT a bit - Planet Object Pascal

On 2013-02-17 13:40, Frank Church wrote: > > My beef is mostly with Lazarus developers. They are more at fault here > as a lot of the new features which make a good difference to > productivity tend go unannounced or unnoticed. That's why I created the following wiki page... for exactly that reas

Re: [fpc-pascal] OT a bit - Planet Object Pascal

Am 18.02.2013 08:32 schrieb "ik" : > > > > > > Google and Sun are multibillion dollar corporations. Their owners > > Sorry but that is bullshit. I'm a freelancer, works alone, with > minimal budget, yet I find the time to write specifications for my > clients, documentation, emails, explaining thin

Re: [fpc-pascal] OT a bit - Planet Object Pascal

On Mon, Feb 18, 2013 at 3:54 AM, waldo kitty wrote: > On 2/17/2013 19:40, Rainer Stratmann wrote: >> >> Am Sunday 17 February 2013 18:45:50 schrieb Florian Klämpfl: >>> >>> Am 17.02.2013 18:10, schrieb ik: Nice, Pascal is at the same level of usage and exposure as gcc, Linux kernel

Re: [fpc-pascal] OT a bit - Planet Object Pascal

waldo kitty schrieb: >On 2/17/2013 14:35, Florian Klämpfl wrote: >> Am 17.02.2013 20:31, schrieb Frank Church: >>> One more thing lest I forget. The official FPC documentation is very >>> good, especially for documents created by volunteers and hobbyists. >>> That it is not accompanied by examp

Re: [fpc-pascal] OT a bit - Planet Object Pascal

On Sun, Feb 17, 2013 at 11:24 PM, Frank Church wrote: > On 17 February 2013 20:30, ik wrote: >> On Sun, Feb 17, 2013 at 9:31 PM, Frank Church wrote: >>> On 17 February 2013 17:10, ik wrote: On Sun, Feb 17, 2013 at 5:05 PM, Florian Klämpfl wrote: > > Am 17.02.2013 15:36, schr

Re: [fpc-pascal] OT a bit - Planet Object Pascal

On 2/17/2013 19:40, Rainer Stratmann wrote: Am Sunday 17 February 2013 18:45:50 schrieb Florian Klämpfl: Am 17.02.2013 18:10, schrieb ik: Nice, Pascal is at the same level of usage and exposure as gcc, Linux kernel and llvm, And you think some fancy webpage filled with java script (which is t

Re: [fpc-pascal] OT a bit - Planet Object Pascal

Am Sunday 17 February 2013 18:45:50 schrieb Florian Klämpfl: > Am 17.02.2013 18:10, schrieb ik: > > Nice, Pascal is at the same level of usage and exposure as gcc, Linux > > kernel and llvm, > > And you think some fancy webpage filled with java script (which is > turned off in my browser) would cha

Re: [fpc-pascal] OT a bit - Planet Object Pascal

On 2/17/2013 14:35, Florian Klämpfl wrote: Am 17.02.2013 20:31, schrieb Frank Church: One more thing lest I forget. The official FPC documentation is very good, especially for documents created by volunteers and hobbyists. That it is not accompanied by examples c:\fpc\docs>dir ex*.pp /s | grep

Re: [fpc-pascal] OT a bit - Planet Object Pascal

On 17 February 2013 20:30, ik wrote: > On Sun, Feb 17, 2013 at 9:31 PM, Frank Church wrote: >> On 17 February 2013 17:10, ik wrote: >>> On Sun, Feb 17, 2013 at 5:05 PM, Florian Klämpfl >>> wrote: Am 17.02.2013 15:36, schrieb ik: > > > On Sun, Feb 17, 2013 at 1:58 PM,

Re: [fpc-pascal] OT a bit - Planet Object Pascal

On Sun, Feb 17, 2013 at 10:59 PM, Leonardo M. Ramé wrote: >> >> From: ik >>To: FPC-Pascal users discussions >>Sent: Sunday, February 17, 2013 5:30 PM >>Subject: Re: [fpc-pascal] OT a bit - Planet Object Pascal >> >> >&

Re: [fpc-pascal] OT a bit - Planet Object Pascal

On Sun, Feb 17, 2013 at 10:57 PM, Frank Church wrote: > On 17 February 2013 19:35, Florian Klämpfl wrote: >> Am 17.02.2013 20:31, schrieb Frank Church: >>> One more thing lest I forget. The official FPC documentation is very >>> good, especially for documents created by volunteers and hobbyists.

Re: [fpc-pascal] OT a bit - Planet Object Pascal

> > From: ik >To: FPC-Pascal users discussions >Sent: Sunday, February 17, 2013 5:30 PM >Subject: Re: [fpc-pascal] OT a bit - Planet Object Pascal > > >I don't need an IDE to develop Pascal, unlike Java for example, I can use VIM >

Re: [fpc-pascal] OT a bit - Planet Object Pascal

On 17 February 2013 19:35, Florian Klämpfl wrote: > Am 17.02.2013 20:31, schrieb Frank Church: >> One more thing lest I forget. The official FPC documentation is very >> good, especially for documents created by volunteers and hobbyists. >> That it is not accompanied by examples > > c:\fpc\docs>di

Re: [fpc-pascal] OT a bit - Planet Object Pascal

On Sun, Feb 17, 2013 at 9:31 PM, Frank Church wrote: > On 17 February 2013 17:10, ik wrote: >> On Sun, Feb 17, 2013 at 5:05 PM, Florian Klämpfl >> wrote: >>> >>> Am 17.02.2013 15:36, schrieb ik: >>> > >>> > >>> > On Sun, Feb 17, 2013 at 1:58 PM, Florian Klämpfl >>> > Why is it that FPC/K now e

Re: [fpc-pascal] OT a bit - Planet Object Pascal

Am 17.02.2013 20:31, schrieb Frank Church: > One more thing lest I forget. The official FPC documentation is very > good, especially for documents created by volunteers and hobbyists. > That it is not accompanied by examples c:\fpc\docs>dir ex*.pp /s | grep -c ex 668 What do I miss?

Re: [fpc-pascal] OT a bit - Planet Object Pascal

On 17 February 2013 17:10, ik wrote: > On Sun, Feb 17, 2013 at 5:05 PM, Florian Klämpfl > wrote: >> >> Am 17.02.2013 15:36, schrieb ik: >> > >> > >> > On Sun, Feb 17, 2013 at 1:58 PM, Florian Klämpfl >> > Why is it that FPC/K now exists for 20 years as an open source project, >> > and you >> >

Re: [fpc-pascal] OT a bit - Planet Object Pascal

On 2/17/2013 12:44, Michael Van Canneyt wrote: What I (and Florian) are trying to say is that our limited time is better spent on coding than on spreading the news of FPC. But no-one is stopping you from spreading the news, on the contrary. We'll be glad that you do, because it means you think FP

Re: [fpc-pascal] OT a bit - Planet Object Pascal

On Sun, February 17, 2013 18:10, ik wrote: . . > Yes to solve everything but keep it for yourself :P You (and many others) can use it (and do so as seen from download statistics, bug reports, etc.), right? . . > Should I continue, or do you get my point ? . . Better not with this discussi

Re: [fpc-pascal] OT a bit - Planet Object Pascal

On 2/17/2013 04:45, Sven Barth wrote: Am 16.02.2013 22:14 schrieb "Michael Van Canneyt" : > True. But I think Florian (or my) time is better spent on actaul coding. > Let people that like blogs do the blogging. > > They're almost certainly going to be better at it. I'm doing feature announce

Re: [fpc-pascal] OT a bit - Planet Object Pascal

Am 17.02.2013 18:10, schrieb ik: >> >> For what? For the fun? FPC is probably by far the most successful non >> company supported oss compiler so I'am sure I know what is important. > > > Yes to solve everything but keep it for yourself :P Wrong: FPC is OSS so I don't keep it for myself, if peop

Re: [fpc-pascal] OT a bit - Planet Object Pascal

On Sun, 17 Feb 2013, ik wrote: FPC is still growing so what is your point? If a tree fall in the forest and no one hear about it, did it made a sound ? My point is that features are good, but when on one knows about it, then what's the point of it all ? I will repeat myself. I have said

Re: [fpc-pascal] OT a bit - Planet Object Pascal

On Sun, Feb 17, 2013 at 5:05 PM, Florian Klämpfl wrote: > > Am 17.02.2013 15:36, schrieb ik: > > > > > > On Sun, Feb 17, 2013 at 1:58 PM, Florian Klämpfl > > Why is it that FPC/K now exists for 20 years as an open source project, > > and you > > can't earn money for developing it, > > Actually, I

Re: [fpc-pascal] OT a bit - Planet Object Pascal

Am 17.02.2013 15:36, schrieb ik: > > > On Sun, Feb 17, 2013 at 1:58 PM, Florian Klämpfl > Why is it that FPC/K now exists for 20 years as an open source project, > and you > can't earn money for developing it, Actually, I'am not interested in earning money with it. > while Linus that have an

Re: [fpc-pascal] OT a bit - Planet Object Pascal

On Sun, Feb 17, 2013 at 1:58 PM, Florian Klämpfl wrote: > Am 17.02.2013 10:53, schrieb ik: > > > > Pascal is only one programming language I use, and only for hobby, not > > for make a living, > > The same applies here. > > > and that's partly because of you. > > Well and partly you :) I'am pretty

Re: [fpc-pascal] OT a bit - Planet Object Pascal

Frank Church wrote: And sometimes, having a high-profile blogger pushing one particular product can be counterproductive since he ends up a figure of fun. Would the said high-profile blogger be Zarko of delphi.about.com, who is referenced here - http://www.theregister.co.uk/2012/12/11/verity_s

Re: [fpc-pascal] OT a bit - Planet Object Pascal

On 17.02.2013 14:40, Frank Church wrote: On 17 February 2013 09:35, Florian Klämpfl wrote: Am 17.02.2013 09:55, schrieb ik: On Sun, Feb 17, 2013 at 10:13 AM, Florian Klämpfl mailto:flor...@freepascal.org>> wrote: Am 16.02.2013 20:45, schrieb geneb: > On Sat, 16 Feb 2013 , Michael

Re: [fpc-pascal] OT a bit - Planet Object Pascal

On 17 February 2013 09:35, Florian Klämpfl wrote: > Am 17.02.2013 09:55, schrieb ik: >> >> >> On Sun, Feb 17, 2013 at 10:13 AM, Florian Klämpfl >> mailto:flor...@freepascal.org>> wrote: >> >> Am 16.02.2013 20:45, schrieb geneb: >> > On Sat, 16 Feb 2013 , Michael Van Canneyt wrote: >> >

Re: [fpc-pascal] OT a bit - Planet Object Pascal

On 17 February 2013 12:48, Mark Morgan Lloyd wrote: > Florian Klämpfl wrote: >> >> Am 17.02.2013 10:53, schrieb ik: >>> >>> Pascal is only one programming language I use, and only for hobby, not >>> for make a living, >> >> >> The same applies here. >> >>> and that's partly because of you. >> >> >

Re: [fpc-pascal] OT a bit - Planet Object Pascal

Florian Klämpfl wrote: Am 17.02.2013 10:53, schrieb ik: Pascal is only one programming language I use, and only for hobby, not for make a living, The same applies here. and that's partly because of you. Well and partly you :) I'am pretty sure that some of the developers would blog about t

Re: [fpc-pascal] OT a bit - Planet Object Pascal

On 17.02.2013 12:58, Florian Klämpfl wrote: and that's partly because of you. Well and partly you :) I'am pretty sure that some of the developers would blog about their work if somebody pays them for blogging. But you don't do so (obviously I understand this), they have to earn their living by

Re: [fpc-pascal] OT a bit - Planet Object Pascal

Am 17.02.2013 10:53, schrieb ik: > > Pascal is only one programming language I use, and only for hobby, not > for make a living, The same applies here. > and that's partly because of you. Well and partly you :) I'am pretty sure that some of the developers would blog about their work if somebod

Re: [fpc-pascal] OT a bit - Planet Object Pascal

On Sun, Feb 17, 2013 at 11:43 AM, Florian Klämpfl wrote: > Am 17.02.2013 10:40, schrieb ik: > > > When I hear stuff like "sure pascal is cool but lack of good string > > > support", I think that it is more self explanatory then anything. > > > > > > At the local open source communi

Re: [fpc-pascal] OT a bit - Planet Object Pascal

Am 16.02.2013 22:14 schrieb "Michael Van Canneyt" : > > > > On Sat, 16 Feb 2013, geneb wrote: > >> On Sat, 16 Feb 2013, Michael Van Canneyt wrote: >> I tried something like this before and I was suprised at the dearth of Lazarus and FreePascal bloggers. Getting Lazarus and FPC developers,

Re: [fpc-pascal] OT a bit - Planet Object Pascal

Am 17.02.2013 10:40, schrieb ik: > > When I hear stuff like "sure pascal is cool but lack of good string > > support", I think that it is more self explanatory then anything. > > > > At the local open source community I'm a known evangelist for Object > > Pascal, and my blog is

Re: [fpc-pascal] OT a bit - Planet Object Pascal

On Sun, Feb 17, 2013 at 11:35 AM, Florian Klämpfl wrote: > Am 17.02.2013 09:55, schrieb ik: > > > > > > On Sun, Feb 17, 2013 at 10:13 AM, Florian Klämpfl > > mailto:flor...@freepascal.org>> wrote: > > > > Am 16.02.2013 20:45, schrieb geneb: > > > On Sat, 16 Feb 2013 , Michael Van Canneyt w

Re: [fpc-pascal] OT a bit - Planet Object Pascal

Am 17.02.2013 09:55, schrieb ik: > > > On Sun, Feb 17, 2013 at 10:13 AM, Florian Klämpfl > mailto:flor...@freepascal.org>> wrote: > > Am 16.02.2013 20:45, schrieb geneb: > > On Sat, 16 Feb 2013 , Michael Van Canneyt wrote: > > > >>> I tried something like this before and I was su

Re: [fpc-pascal] OT a bit - Planet Object Pascal

On Sun, Feb 17, 2013 at 10:13 AM, Florian Klämpfl wrote: > Am 16.02.2013 20:45, schrieb geneb: > > On Sat, 16 Feb 2013, Michael Van Canneyt wrote: > > > >>> I tried something like this before and I was suprised at the dearth of > >>> Lazarus and FreePascal bloggers. Getting Lazarus and FPC develop

Re: [fpc-pascal] OT a bit - Planet Object Pascal

Am 16.02.2013 20:45, schrieb geneb: > On Sat, 16 Feb 2013, Michael Van Canneyt wrote: > >>> I tried something like this before and I was suprised at the dearth of >>> Lazarus and FreePascal bloggers. Getting Lazarus and FPC developers, >>> (let alone users) to blog about their experiences is like

Re: [fpc-pascal] OT a bit - Planet Object Pascal

On Sat, 16 Feb 2013, geneb wrote: On Sat, 16 Feb 2013, Michael Van Canneyt wrote: I tried something like this before and I was suprised at the dearth of Lazarus and FreePascal bloggers. Getting Lazarus and FPC developers, (let alone users) to blog about their experiences is like pulling teet

Re: [fpc-pascal] OT a bit - Planet Object Pascal

On Sat, 16 Feb 2013, Michael Van Canneyt wrote: I tried something like this before and I was suprised at the dearth of Lazarus and FreePascal bloggers. Getting Lazarus and FPC developers, (let alone users) to blog about their experiences is like pulling teeth.I think a law should be passed requi

Re: [fpc-pascal] OT a bit - Planet Object Pascal

On Sat, 16 Feb 2013, ik wrote: On Sat, Feb 16, 2013 at 10:44 AM, Frank Church wrote: On 13 February 2013 11:34, ik wrote: > Hello, > > I'ved created an RSS aggregation site for Object Pascal related blogs: > http://planet.objpas.org/ > > This is a

Re: [fpc-pascal] OT a bit - Planet Object Pascal

On Sat, Feb 16, 2013 at 10:44 AM, Frank Church wrote: > On 13 February 2013 11:34, ik wrote: > > Hello, > > > > I'ved created an RSS aggregation site for Object Pascal related blogs: > > http://planet.objpas.org/ > > > > This is a test run, and the look and feel will be changed in the feature. >

Re: [fpc-pascal] OT a bit - Planet Object Pascal

On 13 February 2013 11:34, ik wrote: > Hello, > > I'ved created an RSS aggregation site for Object Pascal related blogs: > http://planet.objpas.org/ > > This is a test run, and the look and feel will be changed in the feature. > If you have a blog or can provide RSS for FPC/Lazarus news please sen

[fpc-pascal] OT a bit - Planet Object Pascal

Hello, I'ved created an RSS aggregation site for Object Pascal related blogs: http://planet.objpas.org/ This is a test run, and the look and feel will be changed in the feature. If you have a blog or can provide RSS for FPC/Lazarus news please send me an email with the feed details and I'll add y