[fpc-pascal] Re: Porting linux to pascal, would it be, possible ?

" Guillermo Mart?nez Jim?nez " <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I disagree. C is better for write operating systems *by definition*: C was created to write UNIX, Pascal was created to learn good programming techniques. C is low/mid-level language, Pascal is high-level (and Object Pascal is even high

Re: [fpc-pascal] Porting linux to pascal, would it be possible ?

On Fri, Dec 5, 2008 at 7:10 PM, Marc Santhoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > It has happened in the past. There has been OS/2 for example, with it's > superior OO design. RIP. Ah yes... I surely miss OS/2! The Workplace Shell was awesome. Drag-and-Drop and Customization was awesome! Regards,

Re: [fpc-pascal] Re: Porting linux to pascal, would it be possible ?

On Fri, Dec 5, 2008 at 1:24 PM, Guillermo Martínez Jiménez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > By the way, Linux is good as it is now and Pascal isn't the best > option to create an operating system. Other than Object Pascal not being as popular/mainstream as C... is there any technical limitations in

Re: [fpc-pascal] Porting linux to pascal, would it be, possible ?

On Fri, Dec 5, 2008 at 5:55 PM, Felipe Monteiro de Carvalho <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > If you want to do some large work to increase the use of FPC I would > recommend creating a Window Manager instead, probably with fpgui. How far did you guys get with the 'fpwm' project? Did it actually run a

Re: [fpc-pascal] Porting linux to pascal, would it be, possible ?

On Fri, Dec 5, 2008 at 3:19 PM, Skybuck Flying <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > If everybody does a little bit it could go quite quickly. > > Question is: > > Which linux distro ? ;) Well, you said "porting linux". Linux to be only references the Kernel only. That is the real OS part. All the other s

[fpc-pascal] Re: Porting linux to pascal, would it be possible ?

Dear All , In relation to programming language to be used to program an operating sytem , the Burroughs Corporation is a very good example . ( I am NOT saying that porting Linux to Free Pascal is a good idea . There is MINIX3 , porting Free Pascal to MINIX3 could be a very good job . For 'why'

[fpc-pascal] GTK Pascal and Gnome applets

Is it possible to write Gnome Applets using GTK on Pascal? Do somebody know about this? _ Invite your mail contacts to join your friends list with Windows Live Spaces. It's easy! http://spaces.live.com/spacesapi.aspx?wx_action=crea

[fpc-pascal] fstat usage

Trying the fstat function and don't seem to be getting the right values for ctime, mtime and atime. -- filedate.pp uses BaseUnix,DateUtils,SysUtils; var info : stat ; begin if fpstat ('myfile.txt' , info) <>0 then begin writeln ('Fstat failed . Errno : ' , fpgeterrno) ; halt ( 1 )

Re: [fpc-pascal] Re: Porting linux to pascal, would it be possible ?

Link to the article about the AT&T UNIX OS and C http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UNIX On Fri, Dec 5, 2008 at 8:01 PM, Prince Riley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Here is a direct reference from the Wikipedia article I referenced in my > prior post ... > > In 1973, Unix was rewritten in the C p

Re: [fpc-pascal] Re: Porting linux to pascal, would it be possible ?

Here is a direct reference from the Wikipedia article I referenced in my prior post ... In 1973, Unix was rewritten in the C programming language, contrary to the general notion at the time "that something as complex as an operating system

Re: [fpc-pascal] Re: Porting linux to pascal, would it be possible ?

Hello I don't mean to start a culture war here, but I think there is a bit of overstatement in this post that 'C' is somehow a better language for writing an OS in than say Pascal or OP or anything else. In point of fact, the only 'best' language for any processor is its own machine code which is

[fpc-pascal] Re: Porting linux to pascal, would it be possible ?

> Are you sure? Yes, I am. > doesn't older MacOS's versions where written in Object Pascal? Yes, it does, but as I said I think it wasn't the better options. > I think the problem here (again) is not the language, it's the critical mass > of users of the language. Using C for Linux was a good

Re: [fpc-pascal] Porting linux to pascal, would it be, possible ?

Hello Everyone, While I can't honestly say I share any enthusiasm for writing a OS in FreePascal, I do think there is merit in looking for projects of similar scope and interest that can demonstrate the power of the language and the tremendous tools that have been developed by this group over the

Re: [fpc-pascal] Porting linux to pascal, would it be possible ?

Am Freitag, den 05.12.2008, 17:40 +0100 schrieb Ingemar Ragnemalm: > Now everything must have inherited design > flaws from C just because of what was available in the 80's. This is one strong argument against porting Lunix to Pascal, isn't it? Porting means sort of translating old design flaws t

Re: [fpc-pascal] Porting linux to pascal, would it be possible ?

On Fri, Dec 5, 2008 at 2:40 PM, Ingemar Ragnemalm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > So the KDE and Gnome projects are language-locked? Yes, they are. > (How? Surely users don't select software by language? Users don't care, but they usually use what comes with their distro and window manager, so if K

Re: [fpc-pascal] Porting linux to pascal, would it be possible ?

Leonardo M. Ram? <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: --- On Fri, 12/5/08, Guillermo Martínez Jiménez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: By the way, Linux is good as it is now and Pascal isn't the best option to create an operating system. Are you sure? doesn't older MacOS's versions where written in

[fpc-pascal] EInvalidOp Excpetion

Hi all, since fpc 2.2.3 in my Arch Linux box I'm having some troubles with an EInvalidOp exception raised on normal math operations. I tried to update to 2.3.1 but with the same result. I found in the bug tracker an opened bug, about this kind of exception and I tried to use ClearExceptions and tr

Re: [fpc-pascal] Porting linux to pascal, would it be, possible ?

On Fri, Dec 5, 2008 at 1:18 PM, Ingemar Ragnemalm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > This is an argument only after considering the time versus the goal. Is the > goal worth the time? > No, and that was exactly my point. Life is too short to spend it rewriting Linux in Pascal. > > Another goal is to

Re: [fpc-pascal] Porting linux to pascal, would it be, possible ?

If you want to do some large work to increase the use of FPC I would recommend creating a Window Manager instead, probably with fpgui. The work is imensely smaller, althougth still large, and a window manager usually comes with lot's of useful gui software, so this would be an opportunity to distr

Re: [fpc-pascal] Porting linux to pascal, would it be, possible ?

Hello all, > Skybuck Flying schreef: > > If everybody does a little bit it could go quite quickly. > > Some (arbitrary numbers) from http://www.ohloh.net/p/linux: > Codebase 10,679,927 lines > Effort (est.) 3,396 Person Years > > So, if everybody on this list (maybe 300 persons) work

Re: [fpc-pascal] Porting linux to pascal, would it be, possible ?

Skybuck Flying schreef: If everybody does a little bit it could go quite quickly. Some (arbitrary numbers) from http://www.ohloh.net/p/linux: Codebase 10,679,927 lines Effort (est.) 3,396 Person Years So, if everybody on this list (maybe 300 persons) work on it, then it can be done

Re: [fpc-pascal] Porting linux to pascal, would it be, possible ?

If everybody does a little bit it could go quite quickly. Question is: Which linux distro ? ;) Maybe even some BSD version so that closed-source os-es could be done as well. Though I onced tried FreeBSD... I couldn't even figure out the gui or how to start an app.. So maybe linux more use

Re: [fpc-pascal] Porting linux to pascal, would it be, possible ?

"Skybuck Flying" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hello, An open source pascal operating system could be cool. Would translating/porting linux to pascal be possible ? Absolutely. Most of Unix is plain C, which translates well to Pascal. C++ is harder, of course. "Gerard N/A" <[EMAIL PROT

Re: [fpc-pascal] Re: Porting linux to pascal, would it be possible ?

--- On Fri, 12/5/08, Guillermo Martínez Jiménez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > By the way, Linux is good as it is now and Pascal isn't the best > option to create an operating system. Are you sure? doesn't older MacOS's versions where written in Object Pascal? I think the problem here (again) is n

[fpc-pascal] Re: Porting linux to pascal, would it be possible ?

> Would translating/porting linux to pascal be possible ? Possible? Yes it is. Worth of...? I'm afraid not. By the way, Linux is good as it is now and Pascal isn't the best option to create an operating system. Guillermo "Ñuño" Martínez ___ fpc-pasc

Re: [fpc-pascal] Porting linux to pascal, would it be possible ?

>> An open source pascal operating system could be cool. There are already such projects (including mine :-)). Search google code and sourceforge. >> Would translating/porting linux to pascal be possible ? Yes, but who would? And if he/she would, does he/she have the time? -- View this messag

Re: [fpc-pascal] Porting linux to pascal, would it be possible ?

What is the use anyhow? 2008/12/4 Skybuck Flying <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Hello, > > An open source pascal operating system could be cool. > > Would translating/porting linux to pascal be possible ? > > Bye, > Skybuck. > ___ > fpc-pascal maillist - fpc

Re: [fpc-pascal] Porting linux to pascal, would it be possible ?

As with many things, it only depends of the time you have. But as you grow older you get a different idea of life expectancy and the use of your remaing time. Regards, Gerard. ___ fpc-pascal maillist - fpc-pascal@lists.freepascal.org http://lists.free

[fpc-pascal] Porting linux to pascal, would it be possible ?

Hello, An open source pascal operating system could be cool. Would translating/porting linux to pascal be possible ? Bye, Skybuck. ___ fpc-pascal maillist - fpc-pascal@lists.freepascal.org http://lists.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/fpc-pascal