Re: [fpc-pascal] Systems 2005: A first summary

2005-10-29 Thread L505
>I am in favor of uniting this parts. I think it adds a lot to both of >the projects. Specially we should take a good look on how to improve >the security on the websites. A 100 percent Pascal based, secure Web Forum, Content Management System (CMS), Wiki, Bug Reporter, and program/unit Repos

Re: [fpc-pascal] Lazarus and FPC integration

2005-10-29 Thread L505
>- Some users may want to run FPC from the command-line only (or other IDE, >e.g. SciTE or Vim) and not bother >with the Lazarus IDE >- Some users may already have FPC installed and not want to re-download it >when installing Lazarus >- other reasons? Maybe some people want to try FP-IDE and n

Re: [fpc-pascal] Systems 2005: A first summary

2005-10-29 Thread Tony Pelton
On 10/29/05, Sebastian Günther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Tony Pelton schrieb: > > > another thing that most java ide's do, which may or may not apply to > > lazarus, is that most IDE's have the ability to support more than one > > compiler suite at a time. > > Yes but that is quite meaningless f

Re: [fpc-pascal] Systems 2005: A first summary

2005-10-29 Thread Sebastian Günther
Tony Pelton schrieb: > well, firstly, there appears to be at least one other decent IDE that > i know of : > > http://www.bloodshed.net/devpascal.html > > but in any event, i'm not sure why that distinction is important. Lazarus is the IDE important for over 95% of all people. > i think the p

Re: [fpc-pascal] synchronizing Lazarus--FPC versions

2005-10-29 Thread Alain Michaud
Hi, I am not a developer, but here is an idea: The "About Lazarus" box could also show which FPC version is, or should be used with the current Lazarus and whetter it is OK or not. It hapened to me also once that I was pointing to the wrong FPC compiler. This would be a simple solution to he

Re: [fpc-pascal] Systems 2005: A first summary

2005-10-29 Thread Tony Pelton
On 10/29/05, Sebastian Günther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Tony Pelton schrieb: > > > > their (sun's) model is one where they offer the bundle that you need, > > where you may want a big thick bundle with the Java compiler and > > runtime and IDE, or you may already have the Java runtime and > > c

Re: [fpc-pascal] Systems 2005: A first summary

2005-10-29 Thread Sebastian Günther
Mattias Gaertner schrieb: > > Note: > Lazarus has different release dates than FPC, so bug tracking and download > directories should only have related pages, but the difference must stay > clear for the user. For instance the released and stable FPC 2.0 should not > be confused with the lazarus b

Re: [fpc-pascal] Systems 2005: A first summary

2005-10-29 Thread Jonas Maebe
On 29 Oct 2005, at 22:51, Éric DÉTREZ wrote: I know how to start X11. Is it the right X-Windows ? Yes. But how to start then Lazarus ? Simply typing "lazarus" in the xterm window should work. If it doesn't, try /usr/local/bin/lazarus Jonas

Re: [fpc-pascal] Systems 2005: A first summary

2005-10-29 Thread Felipe Monteiro de Carvalho
On 10/29/05, Sebastian Günther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Tony Pelton schrieb: > For Java the situation is different. There are lots of IDEs, but Free > Pascal has only one major IDE. > Of course the talk is _not_ about a complete fusion of FPC and Lazarus. > 'Only' the following parts should be

[fpc-pascal] Lazarus and FPC integration

2005-10-29 Thread David Emerson
I think the time has come to integrate (the installations of) FPC and Lazarus more fully. I'll first use myself as an example as to why; then I'll present the reasons I suspect such an integration has not already taken place, and suggest an implementation of the integration (mostly from the end-

Re: [fpc-pascal] Systems 2005: A first summary

2005-10-29 Thread Mattias Gaertner
On Sat, 29 Oct 2005 23:38:10 +0200 Sebastian Günther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Tony Pelton schrieb: > > > > their (sun's) model is one where they offer the bundle that you need, > > where you may want a big thick bundle with the Java compiler and > > runtime and IDE, or you may already have th

Re: [fpc-pascal] Systems 2005: A first summary

2005-10-29 Thread Sebastian Günther
Tony Pelton schrieb: > > their (sun's) model is one where they offer the bundle that you need, > where you may want a big thick bundle with the Java compiler and > runtime and IDE, or you may already have the Java runtime and > compiler, and just need the IDE. For Java the situation is different.

Re: [fpc-pascal] Systems 2005: A first summary

2005-10-29 Thread Tony Pelton
On 10/29/05, Florian Klaempfl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > L505 wrote: > > >> > >>I think that FPC has to remain FPC, a language + compiler just like GCC. > >>IDE and Lazarus could be run on top of FPC, like many IDE run on top of > >>GCC. that would be my preference, not that my preferences matte

Re: [fpc-pascal] Systems 2005: A first summary

2005-10-29 Thread Éric DÉTREZ
Le 29 oct. 05 à 22:16, Paul Davidson a écrit : One must start X-Windows from terminal, then start Lazarus. I know how to start X11. Is it the right X-Windows ? But how to start then Lazarus ? I really feel stupid. ÉrIc Détrez Mathématiques & informatique (Faidherbe Lille) Europe pas morte

Re: [fpc-pascal] Systems 2005: A first summary

2005-10-29 Thread Mattias Gaertner
On Sat, 29 Oct 2005 13:38:05 -0700 L505 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > No, this doesn't match with our experiences we had at the systems: a lot > > of people said, yes, I tried fpc but I didn't like to work with the > > command line. When we asked, did you try lazarus, the answer was, no, I > >

Re: [fpc-pascal] Systems 2005: A first summary

2005-10-29 Thread Paul Davidson
One must start X-Windows from terminal, then start Lazarus. You could also try this site. All are .dmg files, friendly to Macs Try http://www.ca.freepascal.org/Lazarus/ On Oct 29, 2005, at 16:11, Éric DÉTREZ wrote: Le 29 oct. 05 à 21:22, Florian Klaempfl a écrit : When we asked, did you try

Re: [fpc-pascal] Systems 2005: A first summary

2005-10-29 Thread Éric DÉTREZ
Le 29 oct. 05 à 21:22, Florian Klaempfl a écrit : When we asked, did you try lazarus, the answer was, no, I didn't know about it. So I try lazarus. I download it (Lazarus, new fpc, fpcsrc (?)) But I don't find it anywhere. No lazarus, even in the Terminal. I'm a mac osx user. Can anybody he

Re: [fpc-pascal] Systems 2005: A first summary

2005-10-29 Thread L505
> In an FAQ section: > > Question: > What is FPC exactly, and what is lazarus? > > Answer: > If you come from a delphi background, consider FPC like DCC. FPC is not an > IDE, just like > DCC is not an IDE. > > Question: > What is DCC, I don't know what that stands for? > > Answer: > That is t

Re: [fpc-pascal] Systems 2005: A first summary

2005-10-29 Thread L505
> No, this doesn't match with our experiences we had at the systems: a lot > of people said, yes, I tried fpc but I didn't like to work with the > command line. When we asked, did you try lazarus, the answer was, no, I > didn't know about it. Of course, but I don't think you mean mean the project

Re: [fpc-pascal] Systems 2005: A first summary

2005-10-29 Thread Florian Klaempfl
L505 wrote: I got few suggestions, especially to target more Delphi developers. 1. Maybe it'll better for public and new users to know 1 product instead of two: FPC (the compiler) and Lazarus (the IDE). Just like Delphi for the compiler and the IDE in a single package. I still got many times qu

Re: [fpc-pascal] Systems 2005: A first summary

2005-10-29 Thread L505
> > I got few suggestions, especially to target more Delphi developers. > > > > 1. Maybe it'll better for public and new users to know 1 product > > instead of two: FPC (the compiler) and Lazarus (the IDE). Just like > > Delphi for the compiler and the IDE in a single package. I still got > > many

Re: [fpc-pascal] Lazarus site hacked ?

2005-10-29 Thread Elio Cuevas Gómez
http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org Seems fine to me. El Sáb 29 Oct 2005 06:44, Éric DÉTREZ escribió: > hello > > I wanted to have a look to lazarus but the site seems hacked. > > I don't know how to get inside. > > > ÉrIc Détrez > Mathématiques & informatique (Faidherbe Lille) > > Europe pas morte

[fpc-pascal] Lazarus site hacked ?

2005-10-29 Thread Éric DÉTREZ
hello I wanted to have a look to lazarus but the site seems hacked. I don't know how to get inside. ÉrIc Détrez Mathématiques & informatique (Faidherbe Lille) Europe pas morte ? http://www.sauvonsleurope.org/ ___ fpc-pascal maillist - fpc-pasca

Re: [fpc-pascal] Systems 2005: A first summary

2005-10-29 Thread Jilani Khaldi
I got few suggestions, especially to target more Delphi developers. 1. Maybe it'll better for public and new users to know 1 product instead of two: FPC (the compiler) and Lazarus (the IDE). Just like Delphi for the compiler and the IDE in a single package. I still got many times question l

Re: [fpc-pascal] IDE problems and crosscompiling

2005-10-29 Thread Tomas Hajny
Date sent: Thu, 27 Oct 2005 16:30:11 -0300 From: John Coppens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: FPC-Pascal users discussions Subject:Re: [fpc-pascal] IDE problems and crosscompiling Send reply to: FPC-Pascal users discussions