On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 02:52, phoebe ayers wrote:
> or winter! I vowed some time ago to not be northern-hemisphere-ist,
> but I still slip up. Hard to think about it being winter elsewhere
> when it's 39C outside here
But, you are using C instead of F, which is quite good for one American :P
I want to remind participants of this discussion that the subject of
this thread is "Sakha Wikipedia passed 7000 articles". Whenever you
want to talk about LangCom, please fork the thread with the subject
which makes sense.
I didn't read this thread up to yesterday afternoon, when Amir told me
tha
On Sun, Aug 29, 2010 at 23:52, Andrea Zanni wrote:
> From what I've experienced, it is generally more difficult to explain these
> things to humanities scholars
> that stm scholars.
As someone with background in humanities, I can say that it is often
hard to explain science to humanities scholars
As Karen fixed her anonymity issue, archives of the Language committee
will be public by default starting from September 12th, 2010. We will
continue to use the same method for the list archives, as it allows us
to talk about confidential (mostly personal) issues. Previous emails
will stay as they
On Thu, Sep 16, 2010 at 09:46, Lodewijk wrote:
> just for the record, old ways and old rules refer to the fact they get
> published on meta, right?
Both ways assume archiving on Meta. "Old rules" assume censoring of
previous Karen's and Gerard's emails.
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If I understood well, Americans don't have such bad feelings toward
the word "bureaucracy" and its derivatives. In Europe it is different.
When I tell to Gerard that he is better bureaucrat than me, he feels
offended; although I thought about specific virtues, not defects; and
although I've defined
On Sat, Sep 25, 2010 at 18:28, Marcus Buck wrote:
> An'n 25.09.2010 17:53, hett Milos Rancic schreven:
>> Today I am working from my netbook. It is not so easy to find the
>> right button and the screen is small. I wanted to upload 20k logo for
>> new Wikipedia edition
On Sat, Sep 25, 2010 at 18:31, Michael Snow wrote:
> While I support the idea that we should have a discussion about how to
> manage and structure our bureaucratic elements, I think the distinction
> posited between American and European perspectives is imaginary. As an
> example, personally I ha
On Sat, Sep 25, 2010 at 19:47, Jim Redmond wrote:
> On Sat, Sep 25, 2010 at 11:35, Milos Rancic wrote:
>> Thanks for making it clear :) It seemed to me that there is less
>> antagonism toward bureaucracy among Americans.
>
> Clearly, you have not had to sit through any of o
On Sat, Sep 25, 2010 at 18:49, Marcus Buck wrote:
> Okay. Could you elaborate on that? What do you think should be changed?
> Which requirements are not well defined?
>
> So far I don't understand where exactly you see the influence of "bad
> bureaucracy" playing a role here.
Around a year ago:
*
On Sun, Sep 26, 2010 at 14:58, Daniel ~ Leinad wrote:
> Look here http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Step-by-step_chapter_creation_guide
> and here http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Local_chapter_FAQ.
Plus to convince voting ChapCom members enough that it is good idea to
convince WM Serbia that it is a
On Mon, Sep 27, 2010 at 11:14, Gerard Meijssen
wrote:
> I doubt very much that political considerations should be part of the set up
> of a chapter. Asking the Serbian chapter for an opinion is fine. Giving them
> a vote on this is not. Given that Kosovo is a separate jurisdiction means
> that it
On Mon, Sep 27, 2010 at 14:06, Milos Rancic wrote:
> On Mon, Sep 27, 2010 at 11:14, Gerard Meijssen
> wrote:
>> I doubt very much that political considerations should be part of the set up
>> of a chapter. Asking the Serbian chapter for an opinion is fine. Giving them
>&g
On Mon, Sep 27, 2010 at 19:13, Thomas Dalton wrote:
> If the Kosovans are willing to wait, it would be make our lives much
> easier if we wait until the international community makes up their
> minds, but that could take a while (it's been 2.5 years already).
I started to analyze the situation, b
On Mon, Sep 27, 2010 at 22:02, Joan Goma wrote:
> Think big Milos. Wikimedia Germany is even better organized than Kosovo. Let
> Kosovo alone and put Germany in Serbia.
This is the good point. I am actually working on that. Seriously.
> Who do you think can succeed better promoting the projects
On Tue, Sep 28, 2010 at 13:35, Thomas Dalton wrote:
> So your proposal is basically to make the Kosovan group a recognised
> non-chapter group (like we're talking about doing with the Kansai
> group) and then "upgrade" them to chapter status at a later date
> if/when it is less contentious to do s
On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 16:38, jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com
wrote:
> well I think that the kosovars should just co submit the application for
> albania and leave out the kosovo issue for now.
> would that work?
There are no obstacles for Wikimedia Albania. It will become a chapter
after the reg
On Sat, Oct 2, 2010 at 21:08, Michael Snow wrote:
> On 10/2/2010 8:59 AM, Andreas Kolbe wrote:
>> I do believe the fact that there is less of a culture of scholarly source
>> research in en:WP, and a preference of press sources over scholarly sources,
>> especially in the humanities, impacts ve
On Mon, Oct 4, 2010 at 11:28, Federico Leva (Nemo) wrote:
> You may be interested in the word cloud I created with the full archive
> of foundation-l:
> http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Foundation-l_word_cloud_small.png
> You can find it at a bigger resolution and with the "source code" (if
This issue has to be solved. And it couldn't be solved without general
agreement on how it should be.
I suggest that interested parties make a deal and I'll argue inside of
the LangCom that it suggests to the Board to accept the agreement.
As Transnitria has poor Internet access and we don't know
On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 00:49, Zugravu Gheorghe
wrote:
> I think Milos proposal was about to discuss the issue of the "moldovan"
> wikipedia inside the interested people, the ones who sustain the idea of
> a such, and the opponents (maybe the word is not the most appropriate
> one - but i can reme
On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 15:36, Gutza wrote:
> * Apart from Mark, nobody actually said they wanted to /read/, never
> mind write Romanian content in Cyrillic; the gadget I propose for
> ro.wiki would be more of a gesture of courtesy than any real help
> to anyone, but I think the
On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 16:49, Gutza wrote:
> On 13-Oct-10 17:40, Milos Rancic wrote:
>>> I think the community at ro.wiki wouldn't mind that.
>> Are you saying that ro.wp community would agree with transliteration
>> engine between Romanian Latin and Moldovan Cy
On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 17:10, Gutza wrote:
> I'm not proposing turning ro.wiki to ro-latin-and-cyrl.wiki. I'm
> proposing a gadget that would seamlessly transliterate to Cyrillic *and
> back to Latin again, if possible* -- that way everybody reads in their
> own script, and (if possible) writes i
On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 17:31, Gutza wrote:
> On 13-Oct-10 18:25, Milos Rancic wrote:
>> That sounds reasonably to me. I have to check what do other LangCom
>> members think about it.
>
> What is it exactly that sounds reasonable to you? I haven't the faintest
> idea
On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 17:59, Gutza wrote:
> On 13-Oct-10 18:52, Milos Rancic wrote:
>>
>> There are also some rewrite rules. For example, the default (based on
>> amount of texts written in Cyrillic; however, script-neutral) of
>> Serbian Wikipedia is
On Sun, Oct 17, 2010 at 22:49, Przykuta wrote:
>> Is there any explanation for the extraordinary jump in page views this
>> month?
>>
>> http://stats.wikimedia.org/EN/TablesPageViewsMonthly.htm
>>
>
> If it is not a bug[1], I think it is newsworthy
>
> http://pl.wikinews.org/wiki/W_pa%C5%BAdzierni
On Mon, Oct 18, 2010 at 21:38, Federico Leva (Nemo) wrote:
> Fred Bauder, 18/10/2010 21:10:
>>>From RT:
>>
>> http://rt.com/Top_News/2010-10-18/russian-police-probe-wikipedia.html
>
> «the Russian nonprofit organization Wikipedia.ru»: uh?
> Yet another domain name to recover...
>
> Nemo
>
> __
On Fri, Oct 22, 2010 at 23:57, David Goodman wrote:
> Obviously, the ones who do better at it are the ones we cannot detect.
> My experience is that some in-house PR people do a very poor and
> easily detectable job. An expert specialist who knows what is
> actually wanted will do far better than
On Sat, Oct 23, 2010 at 08:02, Fred Bauder wrote:
> So, to take a random example that I have not looked at, what would a
> public relations firm hired by the maker of Lipitor be trying to
> accomplish? And what is the result if they are skillful in terms of
> having collaborative editing skills? I
On Fri, Oct 22, 2010 at 17:00, M. Williamson wrote:
> Whatever happened to freedom of speech? Encyclopedia Dramatica is a
> parody site. Plenty of people have tried to shut them down before,
> it's unlikely to ever happen (and in my opinion, should never happen).
> If they have an offensive articl
On Sat, Oct 23, 2010 at 23:02, Amir E. Aharoni
wrote:
> Acceptable or not (IMHO it is), the interesting and good thing about
> this ad is that the advertiser understands that if the article is not
> properly referenced, it will be rejected.
>
> This is similar to the story of the Wikipedia editing
On Sun, Oct 31, 2010 at 20:18, Andreas Kolbe wrote:
> I am really puzzled by the resistance to naming funding sources in
> Wikipedia.
This is the part of post-modernist shit or nicely called
"post-modernist relativism". You know, the world is so big, we don't
understand nothing and we are not rel
On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 00:02, David Goodman wrote:
> But then it should also be said what studies were NOT funded by the
> manufacturer, and we do not know that,m because most journals do not
> specify--and almost none specified in the past.
Information about who funded research is just one more
On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 08:54, wrote:
> Quite right, the articles in other subjects are polluted with irrelevant
> details so why not pollute this class of article too?
>
> Mention it if it is a major factor in some controversy. For example if a
> number of research results are saying that X i
On Sat, Nov 6, 2010 at 00:53, Marcus Buck wrote:
> An'n 05.11.2010 23:44, hett Fred Bauder schreven:
>> How many billions in potential advertising revenue do we leave on the
>> table each year?
>>
>> Fred
>
> According to alexa.com Facebook has a 3-month global pageview share of
> 4.74010%. Wikipe
On Sat, Nov 6, 2010 at 11:38, Peter Coombe wrote:
> No, we don't *need* ads. But think how much we could improve our
> infrastructure and software with that money. Think how much content we
> could help to free. And think how much more international we could
> become. Personally I think the sacrif
One reason more why not to depend on ad providers, like Google is:
"The popular wiki TV Tropes, a site dedicated to the discussion of
various tropes, clichés and other common devices in fiction has
suddenly decided to put various of its pages behind a 'possibly
family-unsafe' content warning, appa
On Mon, Nov 8, 2010 at 22:17, David Gerard wrote:
> On 8 November 2010 06:41, Milos Rancic wrote:
>
>> One reason more why not to depend on ad providers, like Google is:
>> "The popular wiki TV Tropes, a site dedicated to the discussion of
>
>
> *cough* That wo
We are discussing now at WM RS list about treating copyright terms for
Serbian authors.
Terms are:
* Previous situation was 50 years after author's death.
* The new copyright term in Serbia came in 2004, introducing 70 years
after author's death.
* That means that works which authors died in 1953
On Wed, Nov 10, 2010 at 18:33, Thomas Dalton wrote:
> The servers are in the US and owned by a US organisation which has
> minimal overseas assets, which means US law is pretty much the only
> one that applies. If you want people in Serbia to be able to re-use
> the content, though, you need to ma
On Wed, Nov 10, 2010 at 19:30, Andre Engels wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 10, 2010 at 7:01 PM, Milos Rancic wrote:
>
>> My precise question is: Does US law follow local copyright laws in
>> relation to the works published locally and by authors with local
>> citizenship? Or not
On Wed, Nov 10, 2010 at 20:27, Andrea Zanni wrote:
> 2010/11/10 Milos Rancic
>
>> We are discussing now at WM RS list about treating copyright terms for
>> Serbian authors.
>>
>> Terms are:
>> * Previous situation was 50 years after author's death.
>
It would be good to start discussion about what can we do in relation
to the categories of materials which could be free, but we are not
using them because of extensive fear over possible legal actions.
There are at least two types of materials which are not allowed on
Wikimedia projects:
* Orphan
Our family has got new projects:
* Wikipedia in Gagauz: http://gag.wikipedia.org/
* Wikisource in Venetian: http://vec.wikisource.org
* Wikisource in Breton: http://br.wikisource.org/
* Wikibooks in Limburgish: http://li.wikibooks.org/
* Wikinews in Esperanto: http://eo.wikinews.org/
On Sat, Nov 13, 2010 at 19:56, Michael Peel wrote:
> Fantastic. :-) Semantic issue: these aren't new projects, they're new
> language versions of existing projects. We haven't had a new project since
> 2007.
Hm. In my perception, term "project" has two meanings: "separate
project, language edit
For some time I am a bit puzzled by the fact that I don't know any
African American Wikimedian. For some time just because I am living in
a European country without African population, so everything seemed to
me quite normal for a long time.
I tried to make a parallel between Roma people and Afric
Although the most of participants in this discussion understood me
well, I want to be clear: I am talking about the specific 30M+ big
ethnic group living in US, which is named today as "African Americans"
and which ancestors came there as slaves. I am not talking about the
the second generation imm
On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 14:47, Milos Rancic wrote:
> Although the most of participants in this discussion understood me
> well, I want to be clear: I am talking about the specific 30M+ big
> ethnic group living in US, which is named today as "African Americans"
> and which a
ion, but it won't change proportions significantly if ethnic
populations would be used.)
On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 19:17, Sue Gardner wrote:
> On 18 November 2010 05:47, Milos Rancic wrote:
>> Sue mentioned tech-centricity of Wikimedia community. I would say that
>> it is a good
On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 15:47, Fred Bauder wrote:
> If there were any demand for it, which there is not, a nationalist
> "African-American" wikipedia would be acceptable, however it could not be
> based on language differences. However, I doubt that would be acceptable
> to either Wikipedians gen
On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 20:21, wrote:
> In a message dated 11/18/2010 9:14:37 AM Pacific Standard Time,
> mill...@gmail.com writes:
>> As it is pointed to me privately, I have one corrections and one
>> clarifications:
>> * First, my impression wasn't that Obama was raised inside of the
>> Africa
On Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 14:46, David Gerard wrote:
> On 19 November 2010 13:41, Abbas Mahmoud wrote:
>
>> Does Wikimedia Foundation engage in Corporate Social Responsibility?
>
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corporate_social_responsibility
>
> It appears to be something for for-profit corporati
On Fri, Nov 26, 2010 at 05:37, David Goodman wrote:
> We at Wikipedia are not by ourselves going to reform or replace the
> reward structure of the academic world.
>
> The suggestion I have recently been making, is that when someone in
> the academic world wants to write something general, they pu
On Sat, Nov 27, 2010 at 15:32, Henning Schlottmann
wrote:
> On 27.11.2010 01:41, Milos Rancic wrote:
>
>> In other words, our recruitment base are not well formed scientists,
>> but high school students who are interested in Wikipedia (and other
>> Wikimedia projects) per
Does WMF have money from trademark usage on pages starting from this
one: http://www.amazon.com/wiki/Main_Page ?
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On Sat, Dec 4, 2010 at 21:31, Andrew Gray wrote:
> On 4 December 2010 20:28, Milos Rancic wrote:
>> Does WMF have money from trademark usage on pages starting from this
>> one: http://www.amazon.com/wiki/Main_Page ?
>
> It seems we don't, and there's
On Sat, Dec 4, 2010 at 22:20, Domas Mituzas wrote:
>> Personally, I think that this is a good opportunity to get money from
>> payed ads. It is not even on Wikimedia servers.
>
> I don't think that any ads-supported 1:1 content mirror (I don't see much
> added value atm, we have some kind of book
On Mon, Dec 6, 2010 at 17:41, David Gerard wrote:
> On 6 December 2010 09:02, private musings wrote:
>> I thought I'd note for those interested in the latest from the
>> community side of the 'controversial content' discussions - the
>> Commons 'Sexual Content' proposal has just gone into a polli
A great text on fallacies and biases of scientists and scientific
community:
http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2010/12/13/101213fa_fact_lehrer?currentPage=all
WM editors and especially Wikipedia editors should have that in their mind.
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We have fellow Wikimedians in Egypt. Any news about them?
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On Sat, Jan 29, 2011 at 15:34, Ting Chen wrote:
> the Wikimedia movement is like a big family. Even though we sometimes
> quarry with each other but especially in time like this we are all with
> you. In the last days I often think back of the hospitality from all of
> you to so many Wikimedians f
While it is likely that they will achieve $50.000 somehow [1], it
would be good that WMF (1) donate them some sum of money and (2) to
cover the remainder, if they would have any.
[1]
http://news.slashdot.org/story/11/02/18/0021207/The-Document-Foundation-Launches-euro50K-Challenge-Legal-Entity-Qu
On Sun, Feb 20, 2011 at 21:51, phoebe ayers wrote:
> 1) you mean the committee will meet in May along with the hackathon,
> correct? AFAIK the dates have not been set; the decision was made to
> not have this in parallel with the chapters meeting as in the past.
Yes. Because of the same reason we
On Mon, Feb 21, 2011 at 06:55, Bishakha Datta wrote:
> One thought occurred to me: there is no representation of Asian languages in
> the committee (and I don't mean only Indian languages). Would the committee
> want to consider an expansion in membership to include someone who is fluent
> in one
On Mon, Feb 21, 2011 at 15:31, M. Williamson wrote:
> So my question for discussion is, what, if anything, can be done to
> encourage growth and improved linguistic coverage in other areas of
> the world?
It requires active approach. Instead of defining the rules and stick
with them, it requires
On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 10:45, M. Williamson wrote:
> There are currently 13 members of the committee, all of them live in
> Europe, the US or Canada with the sole exception of Amir Aharoni, who
> currently lives in Jerusalem but lived in Russia until 1991 and whose
> native language is Russian. I
I think WMF should endorse it. Catalan Wikipedia already did.
http://fcforum.net/sustainable-models-for-creativity/declaration
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I am glad to announce that Language committee is stronger for three
new members. By the time of getting their applications, the list is:
Ζαχαρίας Διακονικολάου (Zaharias Diakonikolau) (meta:User:ZaDiak)
* languages spoken: el, en-4, de-2, grc-2, pnt-1
* living in: Europe, Greece, Rhodes
* reason f
Zen is very good way to contemplate limitations of human nature.
One of the limitations is very limited ability to learn languages.
There are more than 5000 languages in the world and just extraordinary
individuals are able to speak more than 10. And when I say "speak", my
ru-2 is not counted.
Be
On Sat, Mar 12, 2011 at 16:32, Thomas Dalton wrote:
> On 12 March 2011 14:53, Federico Leva (Nemo) wrote:
>> A really (and not only formally) multilingual list is the new iberocoop
>> list, started after the last Wikimania
>> (http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Iberocoop ).
>
> I didn't know about th
Let's assume that you don't know English. I don't know Dutch and
Google Translator is my only option. (Similarities with English are
not so big, while my knowledge of German is so poor, that it's not
useful at all.)
2011/3/14 Lodewijk :
> Ik denk dat dat niet helemaal eerlijk is om zo te stellen -
I am glad that I am the first woke up member of LangCom today, so I am
able announce that our family is richer for six new projects.
Of those, we've got two new Wikipedias, which means that we have two
languages. Presently, there are 269 active editions (281 in total) of
Wikipedia, which should be
On Sun, Mar 20, 2011 at 12:11, FT2 wrote:
> Allowing votes based on donations is likely to send the wrong message,
> however noble it might be.
>
> It really is too problematic - if the level is high then it allows "buying
> votes" where lower level donors could not; if it is low then paid-for vot
On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 11:33, Strainu wrote:
> I personally enjoy the independence that each project has in the
> Wikimedia universe. Therefore, I've given much thought on wether I
> should write this email. Bun in the situation I will present below, I
> really don't know what more can be done a
BTW, if the point is to conclude discussion in such state, you could
delegate any person outside community to do the job.
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Let's start with a couple of simple facts:
* Our main product is Wikipedia.
* Wikipedia has been built on Internet.
* Wikipedia has been built by volunteer community.
* Mature Wikipedia editions have now a lot of articles. Many
volunteers don't have a lot to write.
* Mature Wikipedia editions have
On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 09:14, teun spaans wrote:
> Quote:Many volunteers don't have a lot to write.
> This sounds like an opinion, not like a fact. Even on English wikipedia, we
> still have about two hundred thousand plant species to describe, and
> millions of animal species. And then I'm not t
On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 12:08, GoEthe.wiki wrote:
> And even if that was true for the English Wikipedia, it certainly is not for
> other large Wikipedias, which seem to have the same trend, according to the
> study.
>
> 2011/3/29 Nikola Smolenski
>
>> On 03/29/2011 11:40 AM, Theo10011 wrote:
>> >
On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 14:03, Nikola Smolenski wrote:
> The problem isn't that all the articles will be written according to his
> level of knowledge, but possibly that:
>
> 1. All the articles that he was interested in and are at his level of
> knowledge he already wrote.
> 2. All the unwritten
On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 14:55, Milos Rancic wrote:
> And as "absolute" amount of required efforts will just raise (needed
> knowledge for writing articles is just higher and higher), we need to
> think about "relative" amount of required efforts (making things more
On Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 05:08, Waldir Pimenta wrote:
> Milos,
>
> Basque is not spoken on that list. I haven't heard of any interest in
> creating a Basque chapter (and I've recently been in contact with a few
> people from the Basque Wikipedia, for a chapter-like activity, so I believe
> I would
On 04/05/2011 10:59 AM, David Gerard wrote:
> We really do underspend horribly in the tech area, compared to what we
> need. That $14-16m from the fundraiser could be gobbled up in a
> moment. In my day job, I work for a tiny, tiny publisher with an
> approximately negligible web presence; two sysa
I am glad to announce that we've got new project: Wikinews in Greek [1].
It is 31st language edition of Wikinews. (Database hasn't been imported
yet.)
[1] http://el.wikinews.org/
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May someone update manual in which it is written that Wikipedia is the
fifth site by traffic? For the most of 2010 and whole 2011 it has varied
between 6th and 8th place [1].
Repeating that it's on the 5th place says about us one or both of the
next two things:
* We are out of reality.
* We are u
On 04/09/2011 10:18 AM, Svip wrote:
> On 9 April 2011 10:14, Milos Rancic wrote:
>
>> May someone update manual in which it is written that Wikipedia is the
>> fifth site by traffic? For the most of 2010 and whole 2011 it has varied
>> between 6th and 8th place [1].
>
On 04/09/2011 11:37 AM, Ray Saintonge wrote:
> On 04/09/11 1:54 AM, Svip wrote:
>> On 9 April 2011 10:45, Federico Leva (Nemo) wrote:
>>> Milos Rancic, 09/04/2011 10:14
>>>> [1] http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/wikipedia.org
>>> We've been
On 04/08/2011 10:16 PM, Dror Kamir wrote:
> This resolution is a very positive step. I hope we will soon be updated
> about practical steps to implement it.
>
> Two such practical steps that are easy to implement and would make a
> significant difference, in my opinion:
>
> (1) Administrators'
On 04/12/2011 02:51 PM, Shadow His wrote:
> http://toolserver.org/~kalan is redirected to Russian Wikipedia article «Хуй
> (значения)». This is very incorrect redirect («Хуй» («Khuy») in Russian mean
> obscene word, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mat_(Russian_profanity) ) and
> in fact a vanda
On Tue, Apr 12, 2011 at 15:53, Aryeh Gregor
wrote:
> You're mistaken. The toolserver has strict rules:
>
> https://wiki.toolserver.org/view/Rules
>
> Using toolserver access in a manner that does not further the
> toolserver's goals (or, indeed, hinders them) is a misappropriation of
> donated re
On 04/12/2011 04:45 PM, Jason donovan wrote:
> I'm sorry but I don't see the wisdom in antagonizing someone for bringing a
> legitimate concern to this list. It might not be the right place and he did
> copy the message to toolserver-l but telling him "to stop using
> toolserver...if you have probl
On Tue, Apr 12, 2011 at 18:29, Aryeh Gregor
wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 12, 2011 at 10:24 AM, Milos Rancic wrote:
>> As admin (but not Toolserver admin), the sense of rules similar to "
>> excuses such as 'the rules didn't say I can't do this' will be
>>
MZMcBride's email about emails reminded me that every automated email
from Wikimedia servers looks like a bunch of programming code.
The first idea was that it would be better to have some better formatted
emails with some more information (for example, I would like to see diff
inside of my email
On 04/25/2011 11:53 PM, John Vandenberg wrote:
> I have restored a subset of these pages. Some of them would be better
> on the Meta or outreach wikis.
Thanks, John!
Mike, you should ask for help before conclusion of deletion. Discussion
about deletion was small and was a typical example of syst
On 04/26/2011 03:56 AM, John Vandenberg wrote:
>> (BTW, related to that, may folk from en.wp raise requirements for so
>> called "consensus" related to page deletion? Something like "at least
>> five users with at least 500 edits" would save many useful material from
>> systemic trolling.)
>
> Do
I would like to repeat that we need to think about this:
http://www.boingboing.net/2011/04/28/flux.html
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On 05/02/2011 08:55 AM, Виктория wrote:
> For example, do we need a presence in Second Life so players can refer to
> Wikipedia without leaving the game?
Not just in Second life and not just to refer. MMORPGs are for long time
places for socialization, too. We would for sure get some editors if it
As you should know, thanks to Wikimedia Germany, Language committee had
its first real-life meeting from May 13th to May 15th during the
Hackathon in Berlin [1].
The meeting was very successful. We've made numerous conclusions. They
need to be verified by LangCom members who didn't participate, bu
On 05/17/2011 02:10 PM, M. Williamson wrote:
> Thank you for the informative message. If it is possible, may I be made an
> observer on the langcom list? Do I need to apply for such a position?
I've recommended you to become an observer. We need 7 days for
discussion on LangCom list. As I said, it
On 05/17/2011 02:21 PM, Ziko van Dijk wrote:
> Thank you for the exhaustive report. May I react to one specific
> point? I did not totally understand the rules about "simple"
> languages. It reads as if the concept of simple language versions has
> only to do with lingua francas, so that the benefi
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