On Tue, Apr 12, 2011 at 18:29, Aryeh Gregor <simetrical+wikil...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Tue, Apr 12, 2011 at 10:24 AM, Milos Rancic <mill...@gmail.com> wrote: >> As admin (but not Toolserver admin), the sense of rules similar to " >> excuses such as 'the rules didn't say I can't do this' will be >> ignored." is obvious to me and it means "don't make troubles". Having >> a redirect to a Wikipedia page is not "making troubles". > > That is for the toolserver admins to decide, not you. It is not > helpful for you to discourage people from complaining to the > toolserver admins, particularly not on false grounds. I have no > strong opinion on whether this particular complaint is legitimate, but > any user who thinks the toolserver is being misused should definitely > bring it to the attention of the toolserver admins, such as by posting > to toolserver-l (if they want it to be public) or > ts-adm...@wikimedia.org (if they want it to be private). > >> This issue could be discussed more and I am not saying that the best >> way for making directory listing forbidden is to make such redirect. >> However, raising this issue at foundation-l is more about making >> troubles than having such redirect. > > Even if that's the case, it is still entirely incorrect to say "Server > admins usually prefer not to do anything in relation to personal files > if it is not a security problem and if they don't have court order." > The toolserver is not a place where users can do whatever they feel > like as long as they don't cause too much trouble. The admins are > perfectly willing to step in and stop toolserver users from doing > anything that they feel is out of line. > > That said, foundation-l is indeed not the correct place to have this > discussion, and further discussion should occur on toolserver-l (which > was originally CCd as well as foundation-l). The toolserver is not > run by the Wikimedia Foundation, but by Wikimedia Deutschland, which > is a separate entity, so a discussion on foundation-l isn't as likely > to reach the right people.
With a couple of not so important notes for this case, it could be said that we agree. And I see that possible interpretation of my construct "server admins" is beyond what i meant. I used it as a general term, I didn't mean exactly "Toolserver admins". And word "usually" has its meaning there. (BTW, I don't remember any court order made to Toolserver.) Everything else inside of my email was exactly because of complaint at foundation-l, not at places described at relevant places. _______________________________________________ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
