Re: [Foundation-l] Licensing transition: opposing points of view

2009/3/23 Birgitte SB : > But none of this was exactly the concern I raised.  My concern was that the > TOS proposed for WMF site would restrict authors to using to certain facet of > the CC-by-SA license that is not commonly used.  This would generally prevent > anyone who was not an author fro

Re: [Foundation-l] Board position statement

2009/3/23 Gerard Meijssen : > Hoi, > Where can we vote? Hi, to clarify: the vote isn't yet open; Michael just posted the Board positioning statement that will be accompanying the vote when it's launched. The key documents have now been finalized and are in the process of being translated. (The ke

Re: [Foundation-l] Board position statement

2009/3/24 Michael Snow : > Actually, > the edit threshold was just changed from 10 to 25 (still pretty low) by > Erik, maybe he can explain the thinking behind that, as I wasn't aware > of that decision. The only reason to tweak the configuration was to move forward the cut-off date (allowing more

Re: [Foundation-l] Usability study in progress

2009/3/25 John at Darkstar : > Wikipedians should not be used to asses usabillity problems with > Wikipedia, this is rule number one if you want to get information about > why a newbie has problems with a system. I'm not sure about your definition of "Wikipedians" above, but the recruiting procedu

Re: [Foundation-l] Usability study in progress

2009/3/25 Casey Brown : > However, I do recall Erik saying something about a grant that is being > worked on for Commons, see > Yep, that's correct. We've submitted a grant proposal specifically with regard to uploading usability (which

[Foundation-l] Licensing update vote underway

As you've probably seen by now, the vote on a possible update of GFDL-licensed Wikimedia content is underway and will be closed by May 3. I've written a more detailed blog post here: http://blog.wikimedia.org/2009/04/14/vote-on-wikimedia-licensing-update-underway/ And, of course, the proposal its

Re: [Foundation-l] Alternating sitenotices is kinda confusing

2009/4/14 Michael Snow : > That's okay, my previous reply was a little snarky itself. I don't know > that we have a perfect solution, but I think the mixed messages are > worth fixing. Agreed, and this is an issue that will occur again when we have overlapping important announcements. My intuitive

Re: [Foundation-l] Alternating sitenotices is kinda confusing

2009/4/14 Brianna Laugher : > Tabs are for stuff you care about. It doesn't make sense to use them > for unbidden "notices". Fair enough; Brion suggested that we should think about a message queue type approach for this. > A long term resolution is a good idea, but to resolve the current > proble

[Foundation-l] First data from Wikipedia survey published

I apologize that this took so long; the survey team spent a lot of time cleaning up the very large number of responses that they received. But we're sharing now with their permission the first preliminary results from the Wikipedia survey of readers and contributors last year: http://blog.wikimedi

Re: [Foundation-l] Licence

2009/4/20 Florence Devouard : > Whilst the text of the resolution adopted in december 2007 > http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Resolution:License_update > Refers to > http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/3.0/us/ To my knowledge, the jurisdictional variant URL wasn't intentionally chosen in

Re: [Foundation-l] First data from Wikipedia survey published

2009/4/17 Thomas de Souza Buckup : > Erik, > > Congratulations! The results of this survey will be very useful for all of > us. Could you please answer a couple of questions: > > - Can they/you/we "wiki" the results on Meta? > - When will the data become available for the community? I don't think

Re: [Foundation-l] Usability Study Results (Sneak Preview)

2009/5/7 Brian : >> >> Based on these criteria, the 2,500 users that responded to our survey were >> filtered down to 500 viable subjects based on their answers to these >> questions. The team, along with B|P, partnered with Davis Recruiting to >> contact, filter, and screen these 500 participants

Re: [Foundation-l] Usability Study Results (Sneak Preview)

2009/5/7 Brian : > This all goes back to how you aim to quantify improvement in usability. > These samples sizes are so small that it will be hard (or even impossible) > to evaluate your progress based on statistical significance. You've got to > prove to us that its really getting better, and does

Re: [Foundation-l] Licensing resolution

2009/5/21 Michael Snow : > In light of the vote results announced regarding the proposed licensing > update, the Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees has unanimously > passed the following resolution: > > Resolved that: > > Whereas the Wikimedia community, in a project-wide vote, has expressed >

Re: [Foundation-l] Licensing update vote result

2009/5/20 Robert Rohde : > The licensing update poll has been tallied. > > "Yes, I am in favor of this change" :  13242 (75.8%) > "No, I am opposed to this change" :  1829 (10.5%) > "I do not have an opinion on this change" :  2391 (13.7%) I do want to state for the record that the only reason a "

Re: [Foundation-l] Announcement: Chapter Selected Board Seats

2009/5/22 Jan-Bart de Vreede : > Arne Klempert is Head of Digital Communications at IFOK, a German > consulting firm. He is one of the founders of the German chapter. He > was involved in the development of Wikimedia Deutschland first as vice- > chair and then as Executive Director, until September

Re: [Foundation-l] Goodbye

2009/5/26 Sue Gardner : > I am sorry to see you move on. Seconded. Michael, you have been excellent, and you will very much be missed. -- Erik Möller Deputy Director, Wikimedia Foundation Support Free Knowledge: http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Donate

Re: [Foundation-l] Google Wave and Wikimedia projects

2009/5/29 Milos Rancic : > Probably, some of you already saw that Google made something for which > I think that it will be the new form of the mainstream Internet > perception. You may read Slashdot article [1], a good description at > the blog "Google Operating System" [2] (not officially connect

[Foundation-l] Licensing update: Final steps

All, after some internal discussion with the licensing update committee, I'm proposing the following final site terms to be implemented on all Wikimedia projects that currently use GFDL as their primary content license, as well as the relevant multimedia templates: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/

Re: [Foundation-l] [Wikitech-l] Licensing update: Final steps

2009/6/9 Platonides : > Sorry if it has already been discussed before but, why has the English > version to be included in the same page? > Isn't a link good enough? In the past years we've seen substantial semantic drift in the various localized/translated versions. Having the English version vis

Re: [Foundation-l] Licensing update: Final steps

2009/6/10 geni : > Well the Terms for edit screen is unacceptably long Some of this was helpful, thanks. I've responded on the talk page and made some further edits. http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Licensing_update/Implementation -- Erik Möller Deputy Director, Wikimedia Foundation Support Fre

Re: [Foundation-l] Licensing update: Final steps

2009/6/12 Unionhawk : > Look, this should all be really simple... Just get the developers to > change the footer(s) and any admin copy the legal code of the creative > commons license into the current page... How many Wikipedians does it > take to change the licensing? More than one to do it corre

Re: [Foundation-l] Reuse policy

2009/6/15 Nikola Smolenski : > Дана Monday 15 June 2009 20:24:39 Robert Rohde написа: >> The terms of use for editors will require that editors accept linking >> as sufficient attribution; however, the instructions for re-users will > Why do the terms require that, when this is in collision with a

Re: [Foundation-l] Reuse policy

2009/6/15 Nikola Smolenski : > I, for one, have written a piece of javascript that removes disputed text from > the page before I contribute. Deliberate attempts to circumvene site terms which you've clearly understood and consulted are irrelevant to the actual terms of release. Furthermore, they

[Foundation-l] Licensing update roll-out

As per the licensing update decision by the community and the Board, I've updated the site terms on the English Wikipedia (and the WMF website) today, and posted a reference copy of the site-wide terms of use to: http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Terms_of_Use The Wikimedia Commons licensing tas

Re: [Foundation-l] Licensing update roll-out

2009/6/18 Walter Vermeir : > When I look at the updated en.wikipedia.org and [[meta:Licensing > update/Implementation]] page I see that site footer only states that the > text is licensed under the "Creative Commons Attribution/Share-Alike > License". > > No mention anymore of the good old GNU/FDL.

Re: [Foundation-l] Licensing update roll-out

2009/6/18 Thomas Dalton : > That seems reasonable to me, but I would say "alternative terms" > rather than "additional terms". Additional terms suggests you have to > follow them in addition to the CC ones, which isn't the case. The logic behind "additional" is that the phrase says "text is under

Re: [Foundation-l] Licensing update roll-out

2009/6/25 John at Darkstar : > Could there be some updates to > http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Licensing_update/Implementation as this > page says the roll-out will start at 15. June, while > http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/translators-l/2009-June/000959.html > says new messages are to be roll

[Foundation-l] Licensing update rolled out in all languages/projects

After an initial reference implementation in the English Wikipedia and some bottom-up implementations in a number of projects, the licensing update to the Creative Commons Attribution/Share-Alike License as the primary text license, with GFDL as a secondary license with limitations, has now been im

[Foundation-l] $300K grant for Wikimedia Commons

All, I'm very happy to announce that the Ford Foundation has awarded a $300,000 grant to the Wikimedia Foundation to improve our interfaces and workflows for multimedia uploading. Press release here: http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Press_releases/Wikimedia_Ford_Foundation_Grant_July_2009 For

Re: [Foundation-l] Recommending a Browser for High Quality Ogg Theora Video Support

2009/7/9 Michael Dale : > Presently the proposed solution is to soft link to the Mozilla Firefox > browser: see mockup: > http://metavid.org/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/upgrade_to_firefox.png > or see it in action: > http://metavid.org/wiki/File:FolgersCoffe_512kb.1496.ogv My preference would

Re: [Foundation-l] Donation Button Enhancement : Part 2

2009/7/20 Liam Wyatt : > Rotating them would seem like a more viable solution than randomised - We > don't want the situation where every new page in WP someone reads there is a > new/different coloured donation button where last week there was none at all > - to go from nothing to that would be al

Re: [Foundation-l] strategic planning IRC office hours

2009/7/21 Samuel Klein : > We should leave quality.wikimedia.org in place as an object lesson to future > wikifounders.  "When 20 interested editors isn't enough"... :-) I don't think it's comparable. The Quality Portal was an attempt to drive attention towards some existing technologies and init

Re: [Foundation-l] strategic planning IRC office hours

2009/7/21 Samuel Klein : > (speaking of which, engaging public grants discussions is a > good idea to bring up during planning -- since some of the most active > community work in support of grants happened when community members found > out about, and were excited by, a potential NEH proposal bac

Re: [Foundation-l] strategy.wikimedia.org soft-launch

2009/7/27 Brian : > It doesn't cover the most important case in my mind: meta is where people > actually are! Strategy.wikimedia.org is part of SUL, moving from one space to the other is trivial. To reach a very large group of people (much larger than the group of people currently editing on Meta)

Re: [Foundation-l] How was the "only people who averaged two edits a week in the last six months can vote" rule decided?

2009/7/31 Samuel Klein : > On critical complex topics, the Foundation could benefit from more > discussion and better planning.  Why have we made it so hard to start > new Projects? I would suggest that we use the strategy call for proposals to re-surface some of the most important project ideas t

Re: [Foundation-l] How was the "only people who averaged two edits a week in the last six months can vote" rule decided?

2009/7/31 geni : > 2009/8/1 Erik Moeller : >> * a wiki for the global community of makers to share designs and >> prototypes for both functional and entertaining objects, which is >> becoming increasingly important as fabbing facilities become >> commonplace; > >

Re: [Foundation-l] What's up with IdeaTorrent

2009/7/31 Mohamed Magdy : > Hi W, > > What is going on with IdeaTorrent? are we going to have one or not? do we > need to have a Meta poll or something? I don't think there's any opposition to implementing one. I think for us to officially set it up we'd want to rig it up with CentralAuth to avoid

Re: [Foundation-l] Upcoming tech hiring: CTO position split

Thank you for the update, Brion. You've been effectively wearing every hat there is to wear for a person with technical skills in the Wikimedia Foundation. That's an enormously challenging set of responsibilities, and you've managed them very well, both in good times and in emergency-crisis-mode-ti

Re: [Foundation-l] Upcoming tech hiring: CTO position split

2009/8/7 Thomas Dalton : > It's not really title inflation to give someone that is in charge of > something a title which says that. Our approach to job titles actually has an emerging basic pattern. :-) It's not 100% consistent because we sometimes have stuck with commonly used titles like "Offic

Re: [Foundation-l] PARC Was: Election Results

2009/8/12 Gregory Maxwell : > Speaking of PARC, does anyone have any contacts with them? We've been in touch with Ed Chi for the strategy planning process. I'll make a direct intro. -- Erik Möller Deputy Director, Wikimedia Foundation Support Free Knowledge: http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/D

Re: [Foundation-l] Election Results

Let me add my congratulations to our newly elected or re-elected Board members. :-) Domas - thank you for all your contributions as a Board member. I'm still amazed that you managed to serve on the Board while continuing your technical volunteer work! -- Erik Möller Deputy Director, Wikimedia Fou

[Foundation-l] RfC: Multimedia workshop

Wikimedia France and the Wikimedia Foundation are currently considering the idea of a multimedia-focused workshop and planning event to take place in October 2009. Rather than an open community conference like Wikimania, this would be a workshop targeting skilled practitioners who want to help tran

[Foundation-l] Multimedia Usability Hiring: Product Manager

As you may have seen we recently received a $300,000 grant to work on multimedia usability. http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Press_releases/Wikimedia_Ford_Foundation_Grant_July_2009 A critical position for the project is the product manager role. We've just posted the position as we're imagini

[Foundation-l] $500, 000 operational support from Hewlett Foundation

The William and Flora Hewlett Foundation has decided to generously support us with $500,000 in operational funding. More information in the press release: http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Press_releases/Hewlwett_Fdn_grant_August_2009 This is not a project-based grant like the Stanton and Ford

Re: [Foundation-l] Omidyar Network Commits $2 Million Grant to Wikimedia Foundation

2009/8/25 Gregory Maxwell : > Omidyar Network Commits $2 Million Grant to Wikimedia Foundation Thanks Greg. Our official press release, as well as a Q&A on the grant and Board appointment, can be found here: http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Press_releases/Omidyar_Network_Grant_August_2009 Mor

Re: [Foundation-l] Omidyar Network Commits $2 Million Grant to Wikimedia Foundation

2009/8/25 Thomas Dalton : > How can you have a Q&A on a topic like this that doesn't even address > the matter than you have sold a seat on the board? Has the WMF > completely lost touch with the community? It should be obvious that > this is going to be a highly controversial decision and yet you

Re: [Foundation-l] WMF seeking to sub-lease office space?

2009/9/4 geni : > 2)The amount described is pretty much consistent with the WMF's entire > office there which means if it was the WMF subletting it is more > consistent with a general move. Yes, as noted in our 09-10 plan, we are relocating to a new space, as a consequence of which the current sat

[Foundation-l] Research Committee launched

Hello all, I'm pleased to announce the launch of the Wikimedia Foundation research committee, with 11 initial members. You can find more information and bios here: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Research_Committee The purpose of the committee is to help organize policies, practices and prioritie

[Foundation-l] Wikimedia Foundation Report - July 2010

Hello all, sent on Sue's behalf. We're working through the April/May/June backlog for historical completeness, but wanted to share this new report upon completion. We should be returning to predicable production frequency now. I'd also like to invite you to help get the word out about this report

[Foundation-l] Fwd: [Wikimedia Announcements] Cyn Skyberg joins Wikimedia as CTCO!

FYI. This position was originally advertised as Chief Human Resources Officer at: http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Job_openings/Chief_Human_Resources_Officer The change in title reflects internal conversations which led us to refocus both the kinds of candidates we were looking at, and the nat

Re: [Foundation-l] MusOpen-WMF partnership?

2010/9/6 Federico Leva (Nemo) : > See EFF on the project: > http://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2010/08/musopen-wants-give-classical-music-public-domain > They say: "We have partnerships with the OLPC project and Wikipedia so > we'll likely add music to those as well." > http://www.webpronews.com/topnews/

Re: [Foundation-l] Wikimedia mirrors

I entirely agree that full, distributed backups of all content in Wikimedia projects are a top priority. This shouldn't only include the publicly available dumps, but also a regular secure off-site backup of "Wikimedia in a box" (essentially everything needed to restore a fully operating network o

Re: [Foundation-l] Wikimedia mirrors

2010/9/16 David Gerard : > Surely dumps would be a natural for the Internet Archive and the > Library of Congress. As Tomasz noted in [1], we're already talking to the LOC about keeping mirrors. But lots of copies keep stuff safe, and it's something that the community can easily help with, by crea

Re: [Foundation-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] New Wikipedia videos being released this week

All three videos released to-date already have English language transcriptions: http://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=TimedText:Edit_Button.ogv.en.srt&action=edit http://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=TimedText:Nice_People_MEDIUM.ogv.en.srt&action=edit http://commons.wikimedia.or

Re: [Foundation-l] Pending Changes development update: September 27

Risker, we've consistently communicated that we'll iteratively update the Pending Changes codebase with fixes to address known issues, as documented on: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Pending_Changes_enwiki_trial/Roadmap#November_2010_Release This is the assumption on which hundreds of people vot

Re: [Foundation-l] Pending Changes development update: September 27

2010/9/28 Risker : > Thank you for confirming that English Wikipedia does not have a choice in > whether or not this tool is deployed on our project. There have been two massive polls in the English Wikipedia already on Pending Changes. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Pending_changes/Closu

Re: [Foundation-l] Pending Changes development update: September 27

2010/9/28 Erik Moeller : > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Pending_changes/Closure Correct link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Pending_changes/Straw_poll > > and > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Pending_changes/Straw_poll_on_interim_usage > > In bot

Re: [Foundation-l] Pending Changes development update: September 27

2010/9/28 Risker : > Ummm, no, Erik. The objective was to have consensus to KEEP it on, not > consensus to turn it off, and that was always the agreement. There was > never, until the lack of consensus to keep it on became clear, a direct > suggestion that we'd be stuck with it. Anne, there are no

Re: [Foundation-l] Pending Changes development update: September 27

2010/9/28 Risker : > Yes it is, and it's an important one.  Several of us had already been > working on a plan for the second trial, and those of us discussing had > widely agreed that it would be much more likely to be successful if more of > the recommendations on improving the software were inco

Re: [Foundation-l] Pending Changes development update: September 27

2010/9/28 Nathan : > If the trial said the extension would be turned off, and it didn't get > turned off, then whatever the reason... As a reminder, there was a post-trial poll with very broad participation and 65% of support for continued use of PC. Jimmy then put on his traditional leadership ha

Re: [Foundation-l] Pending Changes development update: September 27

2010/9/28 John Vandenberg : > IMO, the foundation could look to strengthen its global policies > regarding content where living people are a subject. i.e. worded more > like the non-free content resolution.  Then the projects _need_ to > find appropriate solutions to conform to the WMF requirements

Re: [Foundation-l] Pending Changes development update: September 27

2010/9/28 John Vandenberg : > Of course I have seen it. I've learned to not assume such things, John. :-) I respect the work done by the task force, and it's up to the Board to answer whether it wants to adopt or build upon any of this work. My own take, FWIW, is that within the scope of the exist

Re: [Foundation-l] Pending Changes development update: September 27

2010/9/28 John Vandenberg : > This doesn't answer my question, which was: > > _When_ will the board _review_ [the task-forces output]? I'm sorry I didn't answer your question, John. Please note that I'm neither on the Board, nor am I part of Board meetings, nor do I serve as a conduit for them; th

Re: [Foundation-l] Agenda set by Sue? (was Re: Pending Changes development update: September 27)

Thanks for jumping in, and apologies for the sloppy summary. Erik -- Erik Möller Deputy Director, Wikimedia Foundation Support Free Knowledge: http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Donate ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Un

Re: [Foundation-l] subtitles for Wikimedia videos

2010/10/3 Marcus Buck : > I saw it unfolded now. Thanks! One small issue: 'nds' is not Dutch. It's > Low Saxon. And I have no subtitle selection menu (just an on/off switch > that gives me random language subtitles) with HTML5, but I guess that's > a problem of either my browser or YouTube and cann

[Foundation-l] Fwd: Wikimedia Foundation Report, August 2010

(FYI) -- Forwarded message -- From: Erik Moeller Date: 2010/10/7 Subject: Wikimedia Foundation Report, August 2010 To: wikimediaannounc...@lists.wikimedia.org Hello all, please find below the August 2010 report of the Wikimedia Foundation. If you're so inclined, you can

Re: [Foundation-l] Fwd: Help Beat Jimmy! (The appeal, that is....)

2010/10/11 geni : > Paying attention to him isn't helping either. We are not short of > people to ask probing questions/ +1; please don't feed. Happy to respond to questions raised in a constructive setting at a later time, e.g. IRC Office Hours. -- Erik Möller Deputy Director, Wikimedia Foundati

Re: [Foundation-l] Five-year WMF targets exclude non-Wikipedia projects

2010/10/14 Federico Leva (Nemo) : > A very small improvement to Wikipedia may cost much, much more than a > huge improvement to projects where we've never invested almost anything. > And I could give you a list of examples (from the past) and proposals > (for the future), but we would be OT. I thi

Re: [Foundation-l] Another machine-assisted translation tool

2010/10/19 James Alexander : > The blog post from Danese talks about it launchign a Mediawiki extension > project, I'm not sure what the time table is on that however. They've committed code for an extension: http://svn.wikimedia.org/viewvc/mediawiki/trunk/extensions/WikiBhasha/ I haven't tested

Re: [Foundation-l] Greg Kohs and Peter Damian

Greg has a long, unmitigated and unambiguous record of trolling, spamming, harassment, and abuse. Revoking his access to WMF resources in yet another instance was entirely correct and appropriate, although arguably it should have happened much sooner and more consistently. As Fred pointed out here

Re: [Foundation-l] Wikimedia Foundation switching to Google Apps?

2010/10/26 David Gerard : > Gmail is just ridiculously better than any other email client I've > ever used ever, having previously progressed through Pine, elm, mutt > and Thunderbird. Perhaps it's just me, but I'd guess otherwise from > the number of Wikimedians with gmail,com addresses. > free >

Re: [Foundation-l] Wikimedia Foundation switching to Google Apps?

2010/10/27 John Vandenberg : > On Wed, Oct 27, 2010 at 7:20 PM, Strainu wrote: >> .. >> What does that mean exactly? Does it contain sensitive information or >> what? It could really be of interest to other organizations to see >> this information, even if it's not really well organised. >> >> P.S

Re: [Foundation-l] Wikimedia Foundation switching to Google Apps?

2010/10/27 Strainu : > Let's not get carried away here. I am always interested to seeing > alternatives to the tools I use myself and I'm willing to dig through > some not-so-clear notes or whatever to find information, if that > spares me some testing time. That was the sole reason I insisted for

[Foundation-l] Wikimedia Foundation Report, September 2010

Formatted and editable version here: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_Report,_September_2010 == Highlights == * Videos of Wikimedians released: http://blog.wikimedia.org/blog/2010/09/24/four-videos-of-wikipedias-volunteers/ * Article feedback pilot launches: http://blog.wikimed

Re: [Foundation-l] PediaPress

A bit of general background: The Collection/"Book creator" feature allows managing, organizing and exporting content in PDF and in OpenDocument (the latter is still very buggy). We're planning to work with PediaPress to add OpenZIM support (useful for offline readers like Kiwix); EPUB is a possibi

Re: [Foundation-l] PediaPress

2010/11/12 Joe Corneli : > I'm just saying the reason to kvetch about Pediapress is not that they > produce books or that they are a company that makes money.  The more > serious complaint is that they are presently have monopoly status, and > that this monopoly is mostly made possible because ther

Re: [Foundation-l] PediaPress

A few additional corrections / clarifications: 1) Our partnership with PediaPress has not displaced comparable community efforts, nor did PediaPress "offer money" and therefore received attention that other efforts did not get. Most of the community-based efforts at that time, including the ones R

Re: [Foundation-l] PediaPress

2010/11/15 David Gerard : > *However*, that is orthogonal to whether a privileged private closed > source partnership is an acceptable arrangement to keep around. And > the consensus appears to be that this is a question that needs some > serious thought. Well, I don't agree with your characteriza

Re: [Foundation-l] PediaPress

2010/11/15 Robert S. Horning : > Do I wish things would have gone perhaps a bit differently?  Yes.  But > the issue is where to go from here and not to undo things that happened > in the past. > > My whole point in bringing this issue up in the first place is to > express that there were other road

Re: [Foundation-l] [Commons-l] Wikidata

Hi all, as you may know I've been involved in the structured data community for a few years (through the original "Wikidata" proposal in 2004 as well as architecting and developing OmegaWiki, together with the OpenProgress team and others from 2005-2007). I've been following Semantic MediaWiki, Fr

[Foundation-l] Fwd: [Backlog] April 2010 Wikimedia Foundation report

FYI. -- Forwarded message -- From: Erik Moeller Date: 2010/11/29 Subject: [Backlog] April 2010 Wikimedia Foundation report To: wikimediaannounc...@lists.wikimedia.org Hi, earlier this year we fell behind on the monthly reports, and April-June were never published. For

Re: [Foundation-l] Shopping-enabled Wikipedia pages

2010/12/4 Pedro Sanchez : > When you budget 2 million for internet hosting, and 9 million for > salaries and benefits, it's bound to raise some eyebrows, I think. This does not include the $3.2M of planned capital expenditures (mostly servers and other equipment), which is a large cost increase re

Re: [Foundation-l] Shopping-enabled Wikipedia pages

2010/12/4 Milos Rancic : > Personally, I think that this is a good opportunity to get money from > payed ads. It is not even on Wikimedia servers. As I said on wikien-l, the current Amazon.com use is not part of any official relationship. We're concerned about the degree to which the Amazon.com pa

Re: [Foundation-l] fundraiser suggestion

2011/1/1 Domas Mituzas : > It is not obvious how much money is "urgent", more urgent than the need to > read the article. > It is not obvious how much money is so urgent that it needs to distract > me from reading the article by blinking. > It is not obvious how much money is urgent so we cou

Re: [Foundation-l] fundraiser suggestion

2011/1/1 Thomas Dalton : > That is the completely wrong attitude. If we cannot reach our target > with an honest campaign, we should accept that we cannot reach our > target and make do with less money. We should not lie to and mislead > our donors. I fully understand the arguments not to use shor

Re: [Foundation-l] fundraiser suggestion

2011/1/1 Stephen Bain : > On Sun, Jan 2, 2011 at 12:56 PM, Erik Moeller wrote: >> >> But to suggest that the choice of such >> shorthand is tantamount to "lying to and misleading our donors" is, >> indeed, irresponsible hyperbole. It's clear that th

Re: [Foundation-l] fundraiser suggestion

2011/1/2 Thomas Dalton : > I'm familiar with the concept of trying to get people to donate > immediately because they probably won't get around to donating at all > otherwise. That isn't an excuse for lying, though. All the messages > with the word "urgent" in were misleading. You received plenty o

Re: [Foundation-l] fundraiser suggestion

2011/1/3 Domas Mituzas : > Thanks for greetings, and even more thanks for such an effort in trying to > address the concerns. Thanks for raising them. I'll pick and choose a bit in my responses or this thread would expand fairly quickly into all different directions, but let me know if you feel I

Re: [Foundation-l] Big problem to solve: good WYSIWYG on WMF wikis

2011/1/4 Andreas Kolbe : > Thanks, interesting. Go to > > http://www.wiki4enterprise.org/index.php?title=Editor&action=edit That's just FCK, an existing MediaWiki extension. http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:FCKeditor_%28Official%29 Their own editor still appears to be under active developm

[Foundation-l] Fwd: October 2010 Wikimedia Foundation Report

[FYI] -- Forwarded message -- From: Erik Moeller Date: 2011/1/12 Subject: October 2010 Wikimedia Foundation Report To: wikimediaannounc...@lists.wikimedia.org This version is for e-mail consumption. Formatted, living version: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki

[Foundation-l] Fwd: November 2010 Wikimedia Foundation Report

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Re: [Foundation-l] Questions about new Fellow

Thanks Achal :-) In addition to what Achal said, it's important to note that this fellowship was processed as a grant, and is transparently documented at http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:WM_Fellowships/Oral_Citations consistent with the principles of the grantmaking process. It's a short-term

Re: [Foundation-l] Questions about new Fellow

2011/1/20 whothis : > I hope others reading this realize the implication of your appointment. I > had no idea who you were before this, and still don't I had no idea who you were before this. Then I checked my mail archives and saw that the only other thread you've been engaged in was a different

Re: [Foundation-l] Making wikimediafoundation.org more open to contributions

2011/1/27 MZMcBride : > In the spirit of being bold, I've taken a number of steps to correct what I > view as deficiencies in the current contribution system, all of which I'll > outline in this e-mail. If anyone has objections to these changes, they're > more than welcome to revert them and we can

Re: [Foundation-l] Making wikimediafoundation.org more open to contributions

2011/1/29 phoebe ayers : > Having many wikis is an ongoing source of irritation for many, and it > would be great to resolve this issue. Are there good arguments *for* > having separate sites? Yes, and I think most people generally underestimate the complexity of the issue. The reasons for WMF to

[Foundation-l] Wikimedia Foundation Report, January 2011

ce. Howie Fung, Diederik van Liere and Erik Moeller continued review of first data from the Editor Trends Study [6] conducted by Diederik van Liere. The study is an in-depth quantitative analysis of major trends in Wikipedia editing communities, and will be published on StrategyWiki in February. Howi

Re: [Foundation-l] FAQ: Consultant for National Programs, India

2011/2/15 MZMcBride : > The purpose of the strategy wiki was to create a > five-year plan. That purpose has been served, so it's now time to move any > remaining content to Meta-Wiki and move on. That's a legitimate viewpoint, but not the one that's informing StrategyWiki's current use by WMF. Ou

Re: [Foundation-l] Friendliness (was: Missing Wikipedians: An Essay)

2011/2/22 Michel Vuijlsteke : > One interaction I encountered recently is typical. Michiel Hendryckx, one of > Belgium's best-known photographers, started uploading fairly > high-resolution, good quality images to Wikipedia (well, Commons) on 3 July > 2010. Stuff like this 1983 Chet Baker portrait:

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