[Foundation-l] Steward elections: summary, week one

2009-02-08 Thread Jesse (Pathoschild)
Hello, This is a summary of the steward elections and confirmations so far. The elections are open February 1 to 22, at < http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Stewards/elections_2009> and < http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Stewards/confirm> respectively. 902 unique users have participated in the elections

[Foundation-l] Verifiability, reliable sources, notability and original research

2009-02-08 Thread Patton 123
I really think all of these are superflous to each other. Shouldn't they be merged into one policy, called Wikipedia:Verifiability? I mean, look at what we're saying here: - Wikipedia:Verifiability basically says "content that isn't blatantly obvious sh

Re: [Foundation-l] Verifiability, reliable sources, notability and original research

2009-02-08 Thread Chad
On Sun, Feb 8, 2009 at 11:21 AM, Patton 123 wrote: > I really think all of these are superflous to each other. Shouldn't they be > merged into one policy, called Wikipedia:Verifiability? I mean, look at > what > we're saying here: > > - Wikipedia:Verifiability >

Re: [Foundation-l] Verifiability, reliable sources, notability and original research

2009-02-08 Thread Patton 123
oops this was meant for WikiEn-l, sorry ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l

Re: [Foundation-l] Licensing interim update

2009-02-08 Thread Jussi-Ville Heiskanen
Robert Rohde wrote: > On Tue, Feb 3, 2009 at 1:39 PM, Chad wrote: > >> I never said anything about disregarding the law. I don't give a rat's >> ass *how* I'm attributed, as long as I'm not forgotten for the work I've >> done. If there's a legal requirement for a certain method and/or >> degree

Re: [Foundation-l] Licensing interim update

2009-02-08 Thread Jussi-Ville Heiskanen
Sam Johnston wrote: > Given that full attributions are both largely worthless and onerous to > the point of forbidding reuse in many circumstances (e.g. paragraph > quotes, most physical mediums, compilations, etc.) and partial > attributions are in many ways worse than no attributions at all, > su

Re: [Foundation-l] A Civil Wiki (was: Increased incivility at wikinews [en]

2009-02-08 Thread David Gerard
I've proposed something that may help in this matter on en:wp: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Arbitration_Committee/Noticeboard#How_to_raise_the_tone_of_the_wiki Comments and suggestions there are likely to be read by the en:wp arbcom. - d.

[Foundation-l] The acts of raising a community thermal level

2009-02-08 Thread Jon
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Friends, I just wanted to share some thoughts. This is not designed to address any one situation, but to address a problem that is overarching. I include myself in this address as I am sure I've been guilty as well. I've recently seen some very resp

Re: [Foundation-l] The acts of raising a community thermal level

2009-02-08 Thread Jon
Jon wrote: > Friends, > > I just wanted to share some thoughts. This is not designed to address > any one situation, but to address a problem that is overarching. I > include myself in this address as I am sure I've been guilty as well. > I've recently seen some very respective contributers violate

Re: [Foundation-l] Licensing interim update

2009-02-08 Thread Brian
Is this intended to imply that this full attribution must be on the same medium? On Sun, Feb 8, 2009 at 11:10 AM, Jussi-Ville Heiskanen wrote: > Full attributions are often the only guarantee of clear > ability to reuse. That is a fact. It would be arduous to > clarify where it might not be. I a

Re: [Foundation-l] A Civil Wiki (was: Increased incivility at wikinews [en]

2009-02-08 Thread Marc Riddell
on 2/8/09 2:41 PM, David Gerard at dger...@gmail.com wrote: > I've proposed something that may help in this matter on en:wp: > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Arbitration_Committee/Noticeboard# > How_to_raise_the_tone_of_the_wiki > > Comments and suggestions there are likely to be

Re: [Foundation-l] A Civil Wiki (was: Increased incivility at wikinews [en]

2009-02-08 Thread David Gerard
2009/2/8 Marc Riddell : > on 2/8/09 2:41 PM, David Gerard at dger...@gmail.com wrote: >> I've proposed something that may help in this matter on en:wp: >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Arbitration_Committee/Noticeboard# >> How_to_raise_the_tone_of_the_wiki >> Comments and suggestions

Re: [Foundation-l] The acts of raising a community thermal level

2009-02-08 Thread Marc Riddell
on 2/8/09 3:21 PM, Jon at scr...@datascreamer.com wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Friends, > > I just wanted to share some thoughts. This is not designed to address > any one situation, but to address a problem that is overarching. I > include myself in this addres

Re: [Foundation-l] A Civil Wiki (was: Increased incivility at wikinews [en]

2009-02-08 Thread Marc Riddell
> 2009/2/8 Marc Riddell : >> on 2/8/09 2:41 PM, David Gerard at dger...@gmail.com wrote: > >>> I've proposed something that may help in this matter on en:wp: >>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Arbitration_Committee/Noticeboar >>> d# >>> How_to_raise_the_tone_of_the_wiki >>> Comments

Re: [Foundation-l] Licensing interim update

2009-02-08 Thread Jussi-Ville Heiskanen
Brian wrote: > Is this intended to imply that this full attribution must be on the same > medium? > > Heavens forfend. > On Sun, Feb 8, 2009 at 11:10 AM, Jussi-Ville Heiskanen >> wrote: >> > > >> Full attributions are often the only guarantee of clear >> ability to reuse. That is a