Re: [Foundation-l] Movement Roles: my suggestion of "Language Contact Persons"

2011-08-23 Thread Jon Harald Søby
> > Dear friends, > > One element of the discussions on "Movement Roles" was about other / > new entities within our movement, aside the already existing > Foundation and the Chapters, which I prefer to call "national > Wikimedia organizations". I would like to present to you here my idea > of "Lan

Re: [Foundation-l] Movement Roles: my suggestion of "Language Contact Persons"

2011-08-17 Thread Ziko van Dijk
2011/8/16 Milos Rancic : > > realized that we have to elect our ambassadors to Meta [1]. So, the > first three persons on the list were actually elected. Unfortunately, > the idea of Embassy was never really alive. > Interesting! Actually, from the 5 persons on that list for Esperanto, at least 2-

Re: [Foundation-l] Movement Roles: my suggestion of "Language Contact Persons"

2011-08-16 Thread Milos Rancic
On Sun, Aug 14, 2011 at 22:16, Ziko van Dijk wrote: > == Language Contact Person (LCP) == > I would like to suggest a small solution to solve a part of the > problems. Every language version of Wikipedia should designate a > "Language Contact Person" for relations with the Foundation (and > nation

Re: [Foundation-l] Movement Roles: my suggestion of "Language Contact Persons"

2011-08-16 Thread Yaroslav M. Blanter
On Tue, 16 Aug 2011 22:05:37 +0200, Ziko van Dijk wrote: > Hello, > > The name is not so important, of course, but I think that the old > "Ambassador" is a little bit a big word. > > Why do the "ambassadors" not work? Because they don't feel > responsible, if they can simply put themselves on a

Re: [Foundation-l] Movement Roles: my suggestion of "Language Contact Persons"

2011-08-16 Thread Ziko van Dijk
Hello, The name is not so important, of course, but I think that the old "Ambassador" is a little bit a big word. Why do the "ambassadors" not work? Because they don't feel responsible, if they can simply put themselves on a list and then forget about. It is important that they feel an obligation

Re: [Foundation-l] Movement Roles: my suggestion of "Language Contact Persons"

2011-08-16 Thread Yaroslav M. Blanter
> Let's do it! What's the best way to encourage embassies, especially on > small > projects that may have never had them before? > Obviously, to let a message in a relevant language (which is expected to be understood by many of the users) on the village pump of the corresponding project. The mes

Re: [Foundation-l] Movement Roles: my suggestion of "Language Contact Persons"

2011-08-16 Thread phoebe ayers
On Mon, Aug 15, 2011 at 7:58 AM, church.of.emacs.ml < church.of.emacs...@googlemail.com> wrote: > On 08/14/2011 11:41 PM, Amir E. Aharoni wrote: > > I support the idea of language contact persons, or ambassadors, but > > their appointment shouldn't be as rigidly regulated as the appointment > > of

Re: [Foundation-l] Movement Roles: my suggestion of "Language Contact Persons"

2011-08-15 Thread Finne Boonen
On Mon, Aug 15, 2011 at 16:58, church.of.emacs.ml wrote: > On 08/14/2011 11:41 PM, Amir E. Aharoni wrote: >> I support the idea of language contact persons, or ambassadors, but >> their appointment shouldn't be as rigidly regulated as the appointment >> of administrators. > > There are already amb

Re: [Foundation-l] Movement Roles: my suggestion of "Language Contact Persons"

2011-08-15 Thread church.of.emacs.ml
On 08/14/2011 11:41 PM, Amir E. Aharoni wrote: > I support the idea of language contact persons, or ambassadors, but > their appointment shouldn't be as rigidly regulated as the appointment > of administrators. I agree, instead of only two responsible persons there should be a group of people who

Re: [Foundation-l] Movement Roles: my suggestion of "Language Contact Persons"

2011-08-14 Thread Yaroslav M. Blanter
On Mon, 15 Aug 2011 09:43:13 +0400, "Yaroslav M. Blanter" wrote: >> == New entities?== >> James Forrester and his group (sorry, I don't remember who was the >> official primus inter pares) presented in/before Haifa a list of new >> kinds of Wikimedia entities: >> * Chapters not based on national b

Re: [Foundation-l] Movement Roles: my suggestion of "Language Contact Persons"

2011-08-14 Thread Yaroslav M. Blanter
> == New entities?== > James Forrester and his group (sorry, I don't remember who was the > official primus inter pares) presented in/before Haifa a list of new > kinds of Wikimedia entities: > * Chapters not based on national boundaries, but subjects such as > railways, art, ethnic cultures, mathe

Re: [Foundation-l] Movement Roles: my suggestion of "Language Contact Persons"

2011-08-14 Thread Dan Rosenthal
The subject matter "chapters" thing sounds quite a bit like en.wp's Wikiprojects. Dan Rosenthal ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l

Re: [Foundation-l] Movement Roles: my suggestion of "Language Contact Persons"

2011-08-14 Thread Juan David Ruiz
On Sun, Aug 14, 2011 at 16:16, Ziko van Dijk wrote: [...] > == Language Contact Person (LCP) == > I would like to suggest a small solution to solve a part of the > problems. Every language version of Wikipedia should designate a > "Language Contact Person" for relations with the Foundation (and

Re: [Foundation-l] Movement Roles: my suggestion of "Language Contact Persons"

2011-08-14 Thread Amir E. Aharoni
Let me start by saying that Ziko's "Tell us about your Wikipedia" project was wonderful and i really expect its second edition. If Ziko or someone else doesn't beat me to it, i'll probably just create one myself, with additional questions that interest me ;) I support the idea of language contact

Re: [Foundation-l] Movement Roles: my suggestion of "Language Contact Persons"

2011-08-14 Thread Theo10011
Hi Ziko I am not sure if I see the point here. There are 2 issues getting conflated here, one is representation of languages between national chapters which I believe, is a much bigger issue. The second issue, where these Language contact persons serve WMF and the movement in talking about local l

[Foundation-l] Movement Roles: my suggestion of "Language Contact Persons"

2011-08-14 Thread Ziko van Dijk
Dear friends, One element of the discussions on "Movement Roles" was about other / new entities within our movement, aside the already existing Foundation and the Chapters, which I prefer to call "national Wikimedia organizations". I would like to present to you here my idea of "Language Contact P