On 10/09/2011 07:20 PM, Thomas Dalton wrote:
> The community doesn't trust the WMF at the moment. A firm commitment
> not to go against an overwhelming community opinion would go a long
> way towards fixing that.
That's exactly the situation. Right now, we're in a deadlock:
WMF is waiting for the
On 10/09/2011 04:56 PM, Thomas Dalton wrote:
> If the WMF picks a fight with the community on something the
> community feel very strongly about (which this certainly seems to
> be), the WMF will lose horribly and the fall-out for the whole
> movement will be very bad indeed.
+1.
(And I say that,
Hi Ting,
one simple question: Is the Wikimedia Foundation going to enable the
image filter on _all_ projects, disregarding consensus by local
communities of rejecting the image filter? (E.g. German Wikipedia)
We are currently in a very unpleasant situation of uncertainty. Tensions
in the communit
Hi Phil,
I appreciate your feedback on my posts, although I'm not quite sure what
you're trying to tell me.
> I don't read your posts, because (a) I don't trust attachments anyway, and
I use a digital signature to sign my Emails. That way, people can verify
that the Email on this list are really
Hi,
On 09/13/2011 08:06 AM, Liam Wyatt wrote:
> Is that a new feature or was it always there and I just didn't
> notice it?
It's a fairly new feature of the mobile re-write.
http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/MobileFrontend/status
> If it's a new feature, was it enabled as a result these recent
> di
Wow, that's great!
On 10/06/2011 05:13 AM, MZMcBride wrote:
> Is the grant restricted or unrestricted? (Is there a copy of the
> agreement somewhere?)
I'm not sure if it's any more restricted than the summary says:
>> The purpose of the grant is to fund major investments in the
>> technology i
On 10/05/2011 06:25 AM, Aaron Adrignola wrote:
> I'm sure those on this list are familiar with the de.wikipedia poll on the
> proposed image filter with its strong outcome on a particular side of the
> debate. I am quite concerned about the precedent that it.wikipedia is being
> allowed to set. S
On 10/04/2011 10:38 PM, Mathias Schindler wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 22:32, Fred Bauder wrote:
>
>> No, it is a very good idea. The public needs to know what is at stake. It
>> would be nice if it were otherwise, but most people only learn by
>> experience.
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/
Hi,
Wikipedia is a promise, that promise is "free knowledge at all time". By
locking read access, you break that promise, you destroy part of the
trust that our readers have in Wikipedia.
In order to get the readers attention, it seems equally efficient to me
to have a huge sitenotice, but withou
Hi Björn,
excellent! We need experiements and creative ideas.
On 10/01/2011 02:46 AM, Bjoern Hoehrmann wrote:
> This only works in recent desktop versions of Opera and Firefox and only
> on devices where you can easily hover.
How good are chances it can be implemented in a feasible way for other
On 09/21/2011 03:47 AM, Milos Rancic wrote:
> * Create en.safe.wikipedia.org […]
Then governments/ISPs/institutions could block unsafe-Wikipedia via DNS
blocks. This is, compared to DPI, quite easy.
Using en.wikipedia.org/safe/ might resolve this issue.
> * Create safe.wikimedia.org. That would b
On 09/29/2011 04:37 PM, Dirk Franke wrote:
> For anybody interested: I wrote a blog-post full of disagreement :-)
>
> http://asinliberty.blogspot.com/2011/09/sorry-sue-gardner-but-image-filter.html
So basically, we find that there are two different, somewhat
incompatible definitions of Wikipedia:
On 09/06/2011 08:29 PM, wrote:
> On 04/09/2011 20:11, church.of.emacs.ml wrote:
>> On 09/04/2011 07:43 PM, Kim Bruning wrote:
>>> Assuming that the .de community is similar to the wikimedia community at
>>> large […]
>>
>> That is where I disagree. The
On 09/04/2011 09:57 PM, Thomas Dalton wrote:
> I never said there was anything wrong with the German Wikipedia. I was
> suggesting that swastikas might be something German people would want
> to filter out […]
An empirical assumption I disagree with. Most people are imho only
offended by swastikas
(Off-Topic post)
On 09/04/2011 09:53 PM, Kim Bruning wrote:
> Also, de.wikipedia uses Commons 100% iirc. Commons also only
> hosts actual free (as in speech) images. Because -hey- that's
> their mission.
That's almost correct :)
There are some exceptions due to a relative low "Threshold of
origi
On 09/04/2011 07:43 PM, Kim Bruning wrote:
> Assuming that the .de community is similar to the wikimedia community at
> large […]
That is where I disagree. The personal image filter doesn't make much
sense in German Wikipedia, since the German culture is generally pretty
liberal with respect to de
On 09/03/2011 11:07 AM, Béria Lima wrote:
> Videos: http://www.youtube.com/user/WikimediaIL
Only very few videos are online (actually only 5 sessions). Most of the
presentations are missing.
Regards,
Tobias
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On 08/14/2011 11:41 PM, Amir E. Aharoni wrote:
> I support the idea of language contact persons, or ambassadors, but
> their appointment shouldn't be as rigidly regulated as the appointment
> of administrators.
I agree, instead of only two responsible persons there should be a group
of people who
On 08/15/2011 02:50 PM, David Gerard wrote:
> http://blog.okfn.org/2011/08/15/austria-adopts-ckan-and-cc-by-as-nation-wide-defaults/
>
> CC-by to be default licence for government data.
Wow, this is awesome! I hope more countries will follow.
Does this only apply to government databases or all w
On 08/12/2011 11:31 PM, Sue Gardner wrote:
> Hi folks,
>
> I don't know if anyone has made a post-Wikimania thread yet thanking our
> hosts --- if so, I'm sorry to duplicate, but I've missed it.
There's a whole lot over at the Wikimania-l mailing list[1] and feedback
is collected on-wiki:
http://
Hi,
Vladimir Putin has been awarded the Quadriga Award, which is "dedicated
to all of those whose courage tears down walls and whose commitment
builds bridges"[1]. This is the same award Wikipedia received in 2008
(Wikipedia being represented by Jimmy Wales). The award has been
forwarded to Wikime
On 07/08/2011 07:25 PM, Jay Walsh wrote:
> It's with great pleasure that I announce a longtime Wikipedian and
> accomplished Wikimedia project supporter, Tilman Bayer (User:HaeB) has
> agreed to join the Wikimedia Foundation in support of our movement
> communications activities.
Great news! :)
Al
Hi Milos, thanks for those interesting facts!
On 05/22/2011 01:15 PM, Milos Rancic wrote:
> Those are preliminary results. We have two chapters (and strategic
> focus) in countries of the list above. Inside of the longer list,
> which should be verified, we have more chapters. I noted that there
On 05/21/2011 02:12 AM, Erik Moeller wrote:
> It's clear that there's a need for community broadcasting tools that
> allow for a degree of personal flexibility, whether it's by means of
> subscription or otherwise.
I agree, this would fix almost all problem instantly. Although it does
not replace
On 05/19/2011 07:13 PM, Philippe Beaudette wrote:
> On Thu, May 19, 2011 at 1:52 AM, church.of.emacs.ml googlemail.com> wrote:
>
>> Until most recently, it
>> has been displayed on every single page view for most of our 400 Million
>> readers or so, accordi
On 05/19/2011 05:59 PM, Kirill Lokshin wrote:
> A better alternative, in my opinion, would be editor-facing pages such as
> watchlists, noticeboards, etc.
Feature already exists, via Javascript:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Common.js/watchlist.js
Perhaps make it a core feature of Centra
Hi all,
Do we have any guidelines limiting the use of CentralNotices? I noticed
there are a lot lately (fundraising, wikimania and most recently board
elections and commons POTY), some of which are not of much interest to
the audience.
Take for example one of the most recent banners about candid
On 04/27/2011 04:54 PM, Amir E. Aharoni wrote:
> Now people are complaining that they can't see the banner. I tried
> telling them to clean the cookies and it didn't help; i tried it
> myself, and it doesn't help me either.
BTW, next time a static link to the survey would be useful. Some
Wikipedia
On 03/08/2011 10:25 PM, Samuel Klein wrote:
> I'd like to see that tested, personally. More than 50% of the
> Foundation contributors do not write in English, and don't read
> English as a primary language; if this is true, then we should
> implement a better solution for foundation-level discussio
Wow, great news!
>> Lead Architect for the next generation MediaWiki platform
I'd really like to hear more about that. Did I miss something or is this
a new project? :-)
--Tobias
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On 03/07/2011 06:30 PM, David Gerard wrote:
> Indeed. Juergen, are you saying the X wasn't present, or that it
> didn't work for you? It seemed to for everyone else that tried it.
There were some reports that banners came back after a short while,
probably because of client-side cookie problems.
On 03/07/2011 06:08 PM, David Gerard wrote:
> Indeed. This thread appears to have been an exercise in:
>
> [a whole lot of insults]
I don't know if you're directing this at me, but if you are, I seriously
would be interested why you think that I'm trolling or assuming bad faith.
To clarify: I don
On 03/05/2011 11:56 PM, geni wrote:
> A skin targeted at users with limited bandwidth would probably help.
Yes, that'd be awesome! Also for mobile users with a small bandwidth.
(Did I mention Wikipedia mobile needs a complete re-write?)
--Tobias
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On 03/06/2011 12:06 AM, Philippe Beaudette wrote:
> It seems to me that we spent a year building a strategic plan, which
> included huge business planning components for exactly this
> conversation
There are numbers for estimated expenses: $51M for 2014/2015
http://strategy.wikimedia.org/wik
On 03/05/2011 09:38 PM, Sebastian Moleski wrote:
> In terms of annoyance, I think we all need to be careful not to
> substitute our own judgment for that of others. Just because you or I
> find banners annoying, it's a far jump to argue that our readers in
> general also found them annoying. In fac
On 03/05/2011 08:37 PM, Zack Exley wrote:
> I promise that we kept the annoyance of the fundraiser almost to a minimum
> given the amount of money we had to raise.
"we had to raise" sounds absolute, but it is relative to a self-set
(some would say "arbitrary") fundraising goal. This year the goal
On 03/05/2011 06:28 AM, Philippe Beaudette wrote:
> So that we're not hypothesizing, I'll say it: I sincerely regret the way I
> put that. I was attempting to say that the choices that we make have real
> world consequences. I used a terrible example to point that out.
Thanks Philippe, I appre
Hi,
perhaps now that most of the fundraising stress is over, we can discuss
the direction WMF should be taking in terms of raising funds. While I'm
glad that WMF and most chapters reached or exceeded their fundraising
goals, I feel qualmishly about where we're heading.
In order to meet a very amb
On 03/04/2011 03:47 PM, WereSpielChequers wrote:
> creating a secondary datacentre an expensive but logical one.
I agree. Wikipedia's server infrastructure is crazy if you compare it to
any other major site. Any effort to professionalize it and make it more
reliable (not only in terms of preventin
On 02/07/2011 10:21 AM, Amir E. Aharoni wrote:
> User:HalanTul from the Sakha Wikipedia asked me to ask about this here.
>
> The writers of the Sakha Wikipedia want to add icons to "share in
> Facebook/Twitter/etc" to some articles to promote the project, but
> they are concerned about the legal a
Hi David,
from what I understand, there's a fundamental problem:
There is no formal description of WikiSyntax. Its specification is:
"what the MediaWiki parser does".
It seems that it's not very hard to write a WYSIWYG that covers 99% of
all WikiSyntax, the problem is the remaining 1%.
That being
On 08/03/2010 12:01 AM, Cary Bass wrote:
> It is with deep regret that I tell you I will be leaving the staff of
> the Wikimedia Foundation at the end of December.
Hi Cary,
this is truly sad news for us!
I'm not sure how the foundation is supposed to replace you. (I'm
guessing a piece of paperbo
On 07/04/2010 03:40 AM, Eugene Eric Kim wrote:
> 1. Decision-making processes for development. Many of the large open
> source projects have core teams consisting of both paid and volunteer
> developers, and they typically have a decision-making process that is
> independent of any single organizat
Unfortunately, this doesn't seem to work out. I sent Christian Mondrup
an Email asking for more details and he responded that he had already
contacted Wikimedia. As the majority of the works cannot be licensed
under a Creative Commons license (from which I conclude that the works
are non-free), WMF
Hi,
The Werner Icking Music Archive has announced it's no longer capable of
coping with the large amount of visitors to the site. They are
considering hosting the content somewhere else.
This archive contains much sheet music of public domain music. See:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Werner_Icking_
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