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Dear all,
Here a little contribution to the discussion about new organizations
for the Wikimedia movement. As far as I know, at this point there are
not many groups who consider seriously about becoming such a new
organization. Sometimes people mention the Esperanto Wikipedians
because they cannot
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>> never happened t be looking up something with one of the longer
>> articles...
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2012/2/26 Castelo :
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>>
>> As said, all the great things Oral history can be done - outside of
>> Wikipedia.
>
> Yes, it "can be done" but it's not "been made". The information is there for
> decad
{cite video}} and ii) facilitate translating.
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> [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bruce_Dickinson#Singing_style
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uncommon in the different Wikipedias.)
Not everything has to happen *in* Wikipedia.
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2012/2/25 Castelo :
> On 24-02-2012 07:48, Ziko van Dijk wrote:
>>
>> Leave the use of historical sources to historians, and then cite from
>> their books. That's what h
> info.
>
> Some companies sometimes hire external services (private historians) to
> "clean up" their archives and some good stuff can get out of this, such a
Wikinews
> and Wikibooks and so on. Give them the opportunity to fix up the
> language used by the Foundation and the chapters.
>
> Remember: how can community members support and become more deeply
> involved with the work of the chapters and the Foundation if they
> can'
ck, compared to the mails on a
mailinglist or talk page comments, all done by people as individuals.
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afraid that a new group at this point would bump into the
> same problems as the old one did, and has to go through that whole learning
> process all over again.
>
> So yes, lets be critical, and constructive as much as possible.
>
> best,
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> No dia 14 de Fever
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after a couple of years, you'll already have your first notable
anniversary (we had 5 years of WMNL in 2011), look back and cannot
imagine that there was once a time without a chapter.
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Wikimedia Nederland is reporting monthly on its activities. We just
completed December, and for convenience I send you here the link to
the whole list of reports.
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ject". They grew to six later. In
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In Dutch, at some times 3, but also 5. In Afrikaans, no real list. In
Frisian, originally 3, later 4, the "four F's". Frisian, Facts, Free,
ObjektyF. "But don't be too worried about rules. Contribut
Sorry, I did not mean you, I should have deleted the previous text.
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>> I would like to know: Is the introduction of WMF people on national
>> boards a serious idea, or is it just a whim, a piece of loud thinki
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; The Foundation needs to be mature enough to admit that they've screwed up
> this survey, apologise and try again. Next time, start by figuring out what
> you want to achieve by asking the questions and then choose the questions
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useful feedback,
> we could imagine something like an advisory board or scientific
> committee (not executive), appointed by the local chapter (and which
> could just be the chapter board of trustees, to start with), which would
> assist and somehow oversee the local office, with frequent reciprocal
from without the Wikimedia movement. One can
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Actually, in Haifa I did not visit a lot of presentations,
intentionally, because I thought they were recorded and going to be
uploaded. I used the time in Haifa to talk to people and make new
friends...
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at least 2-3 are no longer active. But there was noone who felt
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Is there anywhere more information about the Global Wikipedian,
introduced at Haifa? By chance, I got the business card of Rauan at
the chapters meeting.
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such as Wikisource, Wikibooks etc.
Please let me know what you think about the possibility and potential
usefulness of Language Contact Persons.
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secondary sources. It is the utmost important distinction in history
science. I am sure that any introduction to historiography will agree
with me on that.
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>
> On Wednesday 27 July 2011 09:38 PM, Ziko van Dijk wrote:
>>
n poor countries, but maybe
e-publishing is, and there are certainly at least some places on the
internet that are suitable for new primary and also secondary sources.
Wikipedia cannot solve all problems in the world, and even Wikimedia
cannot.
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imedia trademark and maybe abuse it. There must be an
official recognition anyway from Wikimedia Foundation.
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> I am not sure if this is about the same thing. I read Alec's questions as
> being about content projects that want to affiliate th
lt;http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_wikis#Organizational_and_planning_projects>
>
> Ziko van Dijk, 02/07/2011 00:14:
>> But in those sister projects communities, I have met fierce resistance
>> to any new branding or technical rearrangement. They even tend to
>> avoid to associate themselves with
dians
come to a sister project and don't learn immediately that the rules
differ.)
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> One thing I find irritating and complex about our structure is the
> proliferation of small wikis. Now I've no objection to the idea that
000 words.
>
> Ogden's Basic English was published in 1940. It's unlikely that those
> who asked for simple.wikipedia.org were unaware of it.
>
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> licensing attribution, and other issues heard. There are lots more, but if
> you have ideas please share.
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> page (let's say, [[Missing Wikipedias/Spoken Arabic varieties]]). Such
> additions would be very valuable: if there are people who don't need
> Wikimedia projects editions, we can spend our resources on those who need.
>
> Macrolanguage editions of Wikimedia projects are not anymore taboo. If
> it is more reasonable to use one project for a number of closely related
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> == Other issues ==
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> There are a couple of other issues discussed during the meeting about
> which I would like not to talk before they happen. All of them are about
> improving language related issues on Wikimedia projects.
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beruhen, unabhängig von einer unterschiedlichen sprachlichen
Realisierung.
2011/4/14 Ting Chen :
> Congratulations to the new board.
>
> Ting
>
> On 10.04.2011 22:13, wrote Ziko van Dijk:
>> Dear friends,
>>
>> Wikimedia Nederland, th
Dear friends,
Wikimedia Nederland, the Dutch chapter, has a new board. Please be
welcome on our site with a short Dutch/English message:
http://nl.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia:Mededelingen
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ond the election, it may be better to discuss it before it's
> a problem in any way while it's fresh and malleable, but the board election
> isn't really the context to do so.
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> FT2
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e, it seems to me, between a "fee" and
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The Wikimania site shows that there has been already a lot of work,
and I can imagine the many little things that had to be dealt with.
Remembering the Amsterdam bid, my congratulation for that.
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> We thank everyone who congratulated us
blem with using
Wikipedia as the umbrella word for the whole movement.
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>>> But to suggest that the choice of such
>>> shorthand is tant
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nflict of interest, I don't know how much of this is
> proper or not. Anyway, those are my useless ramblings, so bye.
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Hello,
While reading the FAQ of Creative Commons about the new Public Domain
Mark, I wondered what are the consequences for our projects. Will I
use PDM in future anyhow on Commons, for example?
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up is mainly populated by computer
specialists and natives of English. The second group consists of
language specialists and non natives of English. But of course there
are many exceptions.
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2010/7/28 Shiju Alex :
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>> We welcome automation in translation, but n
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>> It's true, and I want Wikimedia to be that stable. In fact, I want it
>> to be *more* stable than most American universities are at the moment
>> -- certainly more than mine!
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2010/6/25 Milos Rancic :
> My first answer is that Wikipedia is good enough for children and that
> we do not need a Wikipedia fork with dumb language.
I wonder where such an attitude comes from. "Dumb"?
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>> In the discussion, the question of creating a Wikipedia in simple
>> German came up.
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> This would be useful.
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>> As we know, to-day Wikimedia language committee policies prohibit a
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create online
encyclopedias in "simple language", in and outside the Wikimedia
world. Wouldn't it be suitable to reconsider and try to give those
initiatives a place? Who else is more capable to create and support
such encyclopedias than we are?
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>> can't be worthwhile. Only that I think you're fighting an uphill
>> battle against a number of _natural_ (not human originated) biases,
>> and I wish you luck!
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>> [*] A while back I wrote up a longer and highly technical version of
>> this explanation as part o
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Well, what James Alexander says - maybe we can make up something of
"edit". "Checked edit".
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2010/5/24 William Pietri :
> On 05/24/2010 01:41 AM, Ziko van Dijk wrote:
>> In German Wikipedia, our word "gesichtet" is a little bit strange.
>> &q
> Combining the two, and removing the potential bad bits (i.e. "double" and
> "review") how about "Checked Revisions"?
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