[Foundation-l] Board Resolutions from March 30th 2012

2012-03-30 Thread Ting Chen
le. Although the decision has now been made, we have a large number of challenges ahead of us and I hope that we as a movement will come together to make the Funds Dissemination Committee a success by working with us to come up with answers tot the questions that we still have and helping to make

Re: [Foundation-l] Oral Citations Sourcing

2012-02-25 Thread Ting Chen
m illiterates, and only later to do something with it scholarly. But all this has nothing to do with Wikipedia. Kind regards Ziko 2012/2/25 Ting Chen: Mountain, the first ever editor on zh-wp, and still active until today, told me the following story one day (it was before the Oral Citation

Re: [Foundation-l] Oral Citations Sourcing

2012-02-25 Thread Ting Chen
Mountain, the first ever editor on zh-wp, and still active until today, told me the following story one day (it was before the Oral Citation project but I remembered the story very well): He came from the coast of Shandong, and his father told him that earlier there was a local tradition where

[Foundation-l] Movement roles letter, Feb 2012

2012-02-12 Thread Ting Chen
s of all groups The committee should also indicate what resources it will need to be effective, including staff support and resources from the Foundation. This proposed charter and plan should be shared with the Board by 15 June, for approval by its July 2012 meeting. ;References: * [[wmf

[Foundation-l] Fundraising Letter Feb 2012

2012-02-09 Thread Ting Chen
, the board preferred to amend the above text if necessary when moving towards a resolution. This letter indicates our intent, and we may "wordsmith as needed" in our final resolutions. -- Ting Chen Member of the Board of Trustees Wikimedia Foundation, Inc. E-Mail: tc..

[Foundation-l] Resolution:Developing Scenarios for future of fundraising

2012-01-18 Thread Ting Chen
t Guiding principles with regards to fundraising|Draft Guiding principles with regards to fundraising]] Greetings -- Ting Chen Member of the Board of Trustees Wikimedia Foundation, Inc. E-Mail: tc...@wikimedia.org ___ foundation-l mailing list foundat

Re: [Foundation-l] Board resolution on controversial content -- request for clarification

2011-12-28 Thread Ting Chen
Hello Andreas, it applies for all Wikimedia projects. Greetings Ting On 27.12.2011 23:29, wrote Andreas K.: > This is a question for Phoebe and/or another board member: > > The board resolution on controversial content > http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Resolution:Controversial_content includ

Re: [Foundation-l] Wikimania 2011 videos - mission complete!

2011-11-29 Thread Ting Chen
Thank you very much Itzik and the Haifa-Team Greetings Ting On 29.11.2011 12:48, wrote Itzik Edri: > Hi, > > *I happy to announce that all the videos from Wikimania 2011 in Haifa are > now available on our channel in YouTube!: http://www.youtube.com/WikimediaIL > .* > Next week I will send a HDD

Re: [Foundation-l] Letter to the community on Controversial Content

2011-10-10 Thread Ting Chen
Hello Fae, thank you very much for pointing this out. Yes, I think you indeed hit the nail. We discussed this problem on our meeting and Sue provided some plans on how to work on this problem. I am normally reluctant to comment what the staff is doing or what they are planning to do, because th

Re: [Foundation-l] Letter to the community on Controversial Content

2011-10-09 Thread Ting Chen
Hello Tobias, the text of the May resolution to this question is "... and that the feature be visible, clear and usable on all Wikimedia projects for both logged-in and logged-out readers", and on the current board meeting we decided to not ammend the original resolution. Greetings Ting Am 09

[Foundation-l] Letter to the community on Controversial Content

2011-10-09 Thread Ting Chen
terests, aiming at a high distribution.” I would quibble with some of his choice of words, but I agree with the general gist of what he said. I believe we can find an answer that is right for us. I ask you to work with us, to do that. Sincerely, Ting Chen -- Ting Chen Member of the Board of Trustees Wik

Re: [Foundation-l] Welcome to new wikis

2011-07-13 Thread Ting Chen
indeed welcome all and may you all live long and prosper :-) Ting Am 12.07.2011 11:52, schrieb Milos Rancic: > We've got four new wikis: two for content and two for chapters: > * Mingrelian Wikipedia: http://xmf.wikipedia.org > * Argentinian Wikiveristy: http://ar.wikiversity.org > * Arabic chapt

Re: [Foundation-l] Black market science

2011-07-07 Thread Ting Chen
On de.wikisource.org they scan every page of the original text, upload the scan on Commons and show the scan on the right part of every page as an image. It is even obligatory to have the original scan of the text. The following page is an example: http://de.wikisource.org/wiki/Seite:Oberamt_Te

Re: [Foundation-l] Nominating Committee

2011-06-29 Thread Ting Chen
On 25.06.2011 10:50, wrote Lodewijk: > Hi, > > I read from several posts that the process with the nominating committee did > not work out at all. In the mean time the whole nominating committee (and > therefore any formal procedure where non-board members, read: the community, > have any say on wh

Re: [Foundation-l] Closing projects policy now official

2011-06-27 Thread Ting Chen
Hello dear all, on the August 2010 board meeting the board had talked about the responsibilities of the board, the staff and the committees (minutes here: http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Minutes/July_8,_2010 ). The board had worked through this with the RASCI matrix (http://en.wikipedia.or

Re: [Foundation-l] Seat and Donations (SPLIT from: EFF & Bitcoins)

2011-06-24 Thread Ting Chen
Hello Alec, it is so interesting that you mentioned the idea of the board as a government. It reminds me of a blog post of Gerard during the election in which he said that he is candidating but he don't want to be a politician. And that blog post again reminds me of something happened earlier

Re: [Foundation-l] Seat and Donations (SPLIT from: EFF & Bitcoins)

2011-06-24 Thread Ting Chen
Hello Joseph, yes you are right that it looked not good for the board at that time, and we were all aware of that and nobody on the board at that time was happy about that. But in my opinion this is the responsibility of the board. A board should make decisions according to if it is right or no

Re: [Foundation-l] Election results?

2011-06-23 Thread Ting Chen
Ah, sorry, read this too late. I had already promised the dutch chapter to attend their conference. Sorry, would have like to go. And meanwhile I am really out of my vocation days :-D Wish you a good event. Ting On 17.06.2011 20:31, wrote Mike Dupont: > Congrats to the winners! What a great te

Re: [Foundation-l] Amicus Brief Filed in Golan v. Holder: Fighting for the Public Domain

2011-06-22 Thread Ting Chen
Hello Geoff, great work you are doing here. Greetings Ting On 22.06.2011 20:40, wrote Geoff Brigham: > Yesterday, the Electronic Frontier Foundation (EFF) filed an amicus > ("friends of the court") brief in Golan v. Holder, a case of great > importance before the Supreme Court that will affect o

Re: [Foundation-l] EFF & Bitcoins

2011-06-22 Thread Ting Chen
This statement is such a lie that I cannot let it stay here unresponded. You imply the board seat of Matt Halprin. Matt had long left Omidyar, if his board seat was bought, we had had to chose someone else from that Foundation to replace him. As we had explained before many times, Matt is on th

Re: [Foundation-l] Election results?

2011-06-17 Thread Ting Chen
Hello all, at first thank you all for take part in the election, especially to the volunteers on the Elections Committee. As most of organizing-an-event-job, there are always a lot of work that the attendees of the events don't necessarily see. I also want to thank everyone who take part in th

Re: [Foundation-l] deleting old versions of fair-use files

2011-05-31 Thread Ting Chen
Hello Amir, on zh-wp we delete the old version. The old version is no more used at all, and thus no more fair to keep them. Still provide them so that users can find them and copy them looks for me like distributing copy violated content. Greetings Ting On 31.05.2011 08:16, wrote Amir E. Ahar

Re: [Foundation-l] Farsi wikipedia now has 150000 articles

2011-05-22 Thread Ting Chen
Congratulations! Ting On 22.05.2011 21:20, wrote Mardetanha: > Dear all fellow wikipedian and wikimedians > I am so pleased to announce some minutes ago Farsi wikipedia has reached > 15 articles. > > > Mardetanha > ___ > foundation-l mailing list >

Re: [Foundation-l] CentralNotice use

2011-05-20 Thread Ting Chen
Hello Tobias, on zh-wp we use our local central notice quite often and in my opinion it is accepted by most users. We use it to announce admin election, vote for policies and other issues like quality initiatives or call for articles. Most of these activities are on village pump, but most users

Re: [Foundation-l] LangCom meeting report

2011-05-17 Thread Ting Chen
Hello Milos, thank you very much for the report and thank you all from LangCom for the work done. It is a very interesting and informative report and very comprehensive. Greetings Ting On 17.05.2011 13:21, wrote Milos Rancic: > As you should know, thanks to Wikimedia Germany, Language committe

Re: [Foundation-l] User talk page email notification

2011-05-15 Thread Ting Chen
Very nice, thank you very much developers. On 14.05.2011 12:28, wrote Tim Starling: > Email notification for user talk page changes is now enabled on all wikis. > > The issue came up at the MediaWiki developer meeting here in Berlin. A > few ops people were sitting together, we couldn't think of a

Re: [Foundation-l] Turn the things the other way around "Baidu Baike copies content from Wikipedia without attribution"

2011-04-25 Thread Ting Chen
This is definitively a wrong approach. Just because part of their content violate our license does not mean that ALL their content are under CC-SA-BY. No court will ever follow such a logic. Greetings Ting On 25.04.2011 08:45, wrote Joan Goma: > As Ray saids legal prosecution to claim for forma

Re: [Foundation-l] Baidu Baike & Wikipedia 百度百科與維基百科 (英文)

2011-04-21 Thread Ting Chen
Hello, Fact is that Baidu doesn't care. We don't know who backs Baidu in China but with its prominent position it cannot be anyone very small. Maybe some of you remember that a few months ago there were media coverage about Hudong is going to sue Baidu because of copyright infringement, but th

Re: [Foundation-l] Greetings from the new board of Wikimedia Nederland

2011-04-14 Thread Ting Chen
Congratulations to the new board. Ting On 10.04.2011 22:13, wrote Ziko van Dijk: > Dear friends, > > Wikimedia Nederland, the Dutch chapter, has a new board. Please be > welcome on our site with a short Dutch/English message: > http://nl.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia:Mededelingen > > Kind regards

[Foundation-l] Board Resolution: Openness

2011-04-08 Thread Ting Chen
's summary]], [[strategy:Openness|ideas]]) -- Ting Chen Member of the Board of Trustees Wikimedia Foundation, Inc. E-Mail: tc...@wikimedia.org ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/list

[Foundation-l] Message to community about community decline

2011-03-27 Thread Ting Chen
suggestions [4]. Greetings, Ting [1] http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Board_meetings/March_25-26 [2] http://strategy.wikimedia.org/wiki/March_2011_Update [3] http://strategy.wikimedia.org/wiki/Editor_Trends_Study [4] http://strategy.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:March_2011_Update -- Ting Chen

[Foundation-l] Wikimedia presents its five-year strategic plan

2011-02-25 Thread Ting Chen
high-quality free knowledge both on the internet and in off-line settings. Please join us in sharing this plan and helping to make it a reality. Ting Chen, Chair of the Wikimedia Board of Trustees -- Ting Chen Member of the Board of Trustees Wikimedia Foundation, Inc.

Re: [Foundation-l] Friendliness (was: Missing Wikipedians: An Essay)

2011-02-23 Thread Ting Chen
Hello SJ, and all the others, I think SJ's mail has a lot of points. And I think the most important thing is not to talk about this, but to change one's own attitude. Most people who are talking here are also the most heavy contributors in our projects, and as these, they have a heavy mindsetti

Re: [Foundation-l] VPAT

2011-02-20 Thread Ting Chen
uot;to what extend does MediaWiki > comply with VPAT" as an opportunity. > Thanks, >GerardM > > On 20 February 2011 08:51, Ting Chen wrote: > >> Since we are not funded by the government and we have no relation what >> so ever with the US government

Re: [Foundation-l] VPAT

2011-02-19 Thread Ting Chen
Since we are not funded by the government and we have no relation what so ever with the US government I don't see what VPAT has any relevance to us. If the US government think MediaWiki doesn't fulfill the condition, they had to use another wiki engine I am afraid. Greetings Ting On 16.02.2011

Re: [Foundation-l] Reasoning behind identification policy

2011-02-08 Thread Ting Chen
Hello Lodewijk, just from my understanding: If people take certain responsibilities in behalf of the Foundation, especially if these responsibilities could be related to private sphere, the Foundation takes certain legal responsibilities for these persons too. And thus we need to know who they

Re: [Foundation-l] Since Egypt has shutdown internet, should we too?

2011-01-29 Thread Ting Chen
Dear Mido, the Wikimedia movement is like a big family. Even though we sometimes quarry with each other but especially in time like this we are all with you. In the last days I often think back of the hospitality from all of you to so many Wikimedians from all around the world back in Alexandri

Re: [Foundation-l] Fwd: [Wikimediaindia-l] Malayalam wikipedia crossed the 10 Lakh/1 million edits milestone

2011-01-27 Thread Ting Chen
Congratulations, well done and keep the good work Ting On 26.01.2011 17:23, Jyothis Edathoot wrote: > FYI. > > Regards, > Jyothis. > > http://www.Jyothis.net > > http://ml.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jyothis > http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Jyothis > I am the first customer of http://www.netdot

[Foundation-l] Announcement of Expert Trustees' Appointment and Bylaw-change

2010-12-31 Thread Ting Chen
into implementing the five-year strategic plan we all worked so hard together on this year. We're looking forward to bringing Wikimedia to more people in more places all over the world. Thank you all for your commitment to keeping Wikimedia going and happy 10 years and 2011 to you al

Re: [Foundation-l] Tamil Wiki workshop in Eastern University, SriLanka

2010-12-29 Thread Ting Chen
Congratulations and keep it go on. Ting On 29.12.2010 07:21, Anirudh Bhati wrote: > FYI. The first Wikipedia meetup / workshop in Sri Lanka is a > milestone for the entire movement. :) > > Yours sincerely, > > Anirudh Bhati > > 00 91 9328712208 > Skype: anirudhsbh > > > -- Forwarded mess

[Foundation-l] Fwd: Re: [VereinDE-l] Bericht zur Verleihung der Zedler-Medaille und Academy

2010-11-25 Thread Ting Chen
Hello all, Olaf Simons, a literature researcher and Wikipedian, wrote a mail on the mailing list of the German chapter about his experience both as a researcher and as a Wikipedian. I find his experience very insightful and got his allowance to forward the mail here, because I think these expe

Re: [Foundation-l] PediaPress

2010-11-13 Thread Ting Chen
on to take that service. I am sure this answer is maybe not satisfactory, but I hope it can explain a little what my personal opinion is. Greetings Ting [1] http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_Report,_January_2008 On 13.11.2010 08:57, wrote SlimVirgin: > On Fri, Nov 12, 2010 a

Re: [Foundation-l] PediaPress

2010-11-11 Thread Ting Chen
Hello Sarah, I would put it somehow differently. If Virgin Ventures has a tool with which a newbie (or also an oldbie) can in a very intuitive way construct a well formatted article from the scrap, so something like that magic editor we had talked about for long time and never realized until no

Re: [Foundation-l] Proposed Wikimedia Project in Kenya

2010-10-23 Thread Ting Chen
At 23.10.2010 16:00, wrote Abbas Mahmoud: > > Hi folks, > > As some of you may know, there exists a small bunch of Wikipedians in Kenya. > In the last couple of months, we have been discussing ways in which we might > increase Wikip\media awareness within Kenya. We then decided to experiment by

Re: [Foundation-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Announcement: Mike Godwin leaves the Wikimedia Foundation

2010-10-21 Thread Ting Chen
Again Kat found the right words. Thank you very much Mike for all the works you have done. I cannot remember how often I had to ask you about problems from copyright issues to BLP issues alone related with zh-wp. And all best wishes from me. Ting At 20.10.2010 18:39, wrote Kat Walsh: >> On 19

Re: [Foundation-l] Agenda set by Sue? (was Re: Pending Changes development update: September 27)

2010-09-30 Thread Ting Chen
Just to clarify the process. After the previous board meeting I am collecting topics for the next board meeting. This includes suggestions put directly to me (non until now), or on the board mailing-list (mostly) or on page of the board wiki for the preparation of the next meeting. One month

Re: [Foundation-l] Farsi wikipedia has reached 100 K article

2010-08-25 Thread Ting Chen
Yes, indeed, congratulations and keep the good work. Am 25.08.2010 09:31, wrote Mardetanha: > Farsi wikipedia has reached 100 K articles . > > Mardetanha > ___ > foundation-l mailing list > foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org > Unsubscribe: https://list

Re: [Foundation-l] Sakha Wikipedia passed 7000 articles

2010-08-24 Thread Ting Chen
Congratulations. Am 24.08.2010 08:29, wrote Amir E. Aharoni: > Some good news: The Sakha Wiki community keeps being surprisingly > active. I don't know this language, but i read the mailing list of > that community, which is mostly written in Russian, and often > contribute to it (i also asked t

Re: [Foundation-l] Umberto Eco's interview

2010-08-04 Thread Ting Chen
Hello dear italian team, that's fantastic. I read three books from Eco and everytime I am astonished by the plentiness of his imaginations and thoughts. Reading his thoughts about our project and about internet in total is really interesting. Thank you very much Am 04.08.2010 10:37, wrote

Re: [Foundation-l] Push translation

2010-07-27 Thread Ting Chen
Hello all, I am a heavy translator on WikiMedia projects. I would say more than 95% of my contributions on content is translation. But I am against a blind translation. For example mostly I would translate british or north american related content from en-wp to zh-wp, and not from other lang

Re: [Foundation-l] Discussion Questions for Potentially-Objectionable Content

2010-07-27 Thread Ting Chen
Hello Alec, at first thank you for the long mail. It would take me some time to write my own answer but I don't want to make a hasty and unconsidered reply. So if the answer comes a little late, please accept my honest apolozies. My reaction to your mail is very complicated. There are a lot

Re: [Foundation-l] Discussion Questions for Potentially-Objectionable Content

2010-07-23 Thread Ting Chen
Hello, (all below are my private opinion.) > I'm strongly supporting the "No censorship" camp, and as of such i am > against any wiki-wide measures that would make content unavailable, with the > argument that people can choose whether or not to look at offensive content, > but people cannot ch

Re: [Foundation-l] Boycott in a...@wiki

2010-07-18 Thread Ting Chen
User:Mimihitam made an introduction on Wikimania about the Acenese Wikipedia ( http://wikimania2010.wikimedia.org/wiki/Schedule#Wikis_of_the_World ). I remember he said that he doesn't speak Acenese, but the Indonesian Wikipedia has an intensive contact with the Acenese Wikipedia, so I think i

Re: [Foundation-l] Reconsidering the policy "one language - one Wikipedia"

2010-07-06 Thread Ting Chen
Noein wrote: > I don't know if wikipedia should have a chapter specific to children > because it would be culturally biased by our views about education. > It will be biased on the common sense of the culture, in which language that version is written, on how education should be. As well as ev

Re: [Foundation-l] 2010-11 Annual Plan Now Posted to FoundationWebsite

2010-07-01 Thread Ting Chen
Hudong comes maybe the nearest. And Hudong is doing a lot of mobilization works in China. A few days ago there were rumours in Chinese chatrooms about an expansion of Hudong direction Australia. Greetings Ting geni wrote: > On 1 July 2010 09:58, John Vandenberg wrote: > > >> Who is WMF comp

Re: [Foundation-l] Reconsidering the policy "one language - one Wikipedia"

2010-06-28 Thread Ting Chen
ey limited > group of readers (children), with consequences for the content > (limited length of articles, no explicit images), usage of language > (no hard words), wouldn't it be different enough from a "usual" > Wikipedia? > > Kind regards > Ziko > > > >

Re: [Foundation-l] Reconsidering the policy "one language - one Wikipedia"

2010-06-27 Thread Ting Chen
Hello Milos, reading your mail below I am wondering why your reaction on my first mail was so aggressive. It looks to me as if your consideration is not that far away from mine. Especially I wrote in my suggestion that first of all the project must have a very clearly defined scope and audiance

Re: [Foundation-l] Reconsidering the policy "one language - one Wikipedia"

2010-06-24 Thread Ting Chen
Hello Ziko, hello Milos, some time ago, when the board was discussing about the sexual content problems I made the following proposal. I didn't published it because I feel it still very premature and also because I wanted to wait for the research work that Sue should do and see what the experts

Re: [Foundation-l] Statement on appropriate educational content

2010-05-09 Thread Ting Chen
Hello all, the following sentence from me is surely a very stupid sentense. I apology for it. And thanks for everyone, especially Aphaia and SJ for pointing this out to me. Ting Ting Chen wrote: > Commons, Wikiquote and Wikisource has by themselves no educational > value. They gain

Re: [Foundation-l] Statement on appropriate educational content

2010-05-08 Thread Ting Chen
Commons, Wikiquote and Wikisource has by themselves no educational value. They gain their educational value in the way that they provide repositories for the other WMF projects. Wikisource is the library of Wikipedia, Wiktionary, Wikinews, Wikibooks, Wikiversity and Wikispecies. The volumes col

Re: [Foundation-l] Jimbo's Sexual Image Deletions

2010-05-08 Thread Ting Chen
Hello Milos, Milos Rancic wrote: > By my opinion, the only urgency which WMF should do is to support Erik > to fill a lawsuit against Larry Sanger ASAP. Also, if it is not > possible to sue Fox and Larry Sanger on the basis of spreading lies > about WMF in United States, I am sure that it is fully

Re: [Foundation-l] Jimbo's Sexual Image Deletions

2010-05-08 Thread Ting Chen
above. Greetings Ting [1] - http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Deletion_requests/File:Alan_dershowitz_by_Latuff.jpg_reopen David Levy wrote: > Ting Chen wrote: > > >> It is certainly possible that Jimmy in doing his work had made some false >> decisions. We all

Re: [Foundation-l] Jimbo's Sexual Image Deletions

2010-05-08 Thread Ting Chen
Marcus Buck wrote: > Ting Chen hett schreven: > >> For me, this statement is at the first line a support for Jimmy's >> effort. It is a soft push from the board to the community to move in a >> direction. >> > Not my definition of a "soft pu

Re: [Foundation-l] Jimbo's Sexual Image Deletions

2010-05-08 Thread Ting Chen
Hello Milos, At first to the two points you pointed out: * No, I didn't mention that sexually explicit content should be deleted and I still think the criteria should not be if something is sexually explicit. The criteria should be if it has educational value. This is what I said in my statemen

Re: [Foundation-l] Jimbo's Sexual Image Deletions

2010-05-07 Thread Ting Chen
What I can say to your questions is that Jimmy informed the board about his intention and asked the board for support. Don't speaking for other board members, just speak for myself. I answered his mail with that I fully support his engagement. Personally, I think that the board is responsible f

Re: [Foundation-l] Welcome to a new board member

2010-04-05 Thread Ting Chen
Welcome Bishakha and looking forward to meet you soon in person. Ting Michael Snow wrote: > As many of you know, we have had one vacant seat left on the Wikimedia > Foundation Board of Trustees for the board to appoint. We have now > filled that seat by appointing Bishakha Datta, a journalist,

Re: [Foundation-l] Great news! Google gives Wikimedia USD 2 million

2010-02-16 Thread Ting Chen
Thank you very much Shizhao for sharing this. I find the text remarkable informative and precise for a Chinese online agency. Ting shi zhao wrote: > Chinese report: http://tech.163.com/10/0217/12/5VNMNPCH000915BF.html > > Chinese wikipedia: http://zh.wikipedia.org/ > My blog: http://shizhao.org

[Foundation-l] Can you tell us about ... - An Idea to encourage more edits

2009-11-24 Thread Ting Chen
Hello folks, this is a suggestion to encourage more edits. It is both a topic for every of our projects but also of most of the foundation projects. So I post it here at first and will welcome everyone to carry it to the single projects. On the home page of our projects for example en-wp we h

Re: [Foundation-l] Expert board members - a suggestion

2009-08-28 Thread Ting Chen
Thomas Dalton wrote: > a) Could you give an example of an organisation with over 100 board members? > IOC has, ok only more than 70 members, not totally 100. > b) You haven't answered the question. Why couldn't the dedicated > experts that currently go on the board of trustees go on the advisor

Re: [Foundation-l] Expert board members - a suggestion

2009-08-27 Thread Ting Chen
Thomas Dalton wrote: > That's only because we don't specify such an obligation. There is > nothing stopping us having such an obligation included in the rules > for the advisory board. > Yes there are. See my answer to Antony about dedication. > Brion and Véronique have that expertise and could

Re: [Foundation-l] Expert board members - a suggestion

2009-08-27 Thread Ting Chen
Anthony wrote: > On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 6:35 AM, Ting Chen wrote: > >> There are a lot of differences between a board member and an advisory >> board member. The most important difference is the dedication. As a >> board member you MUST attend board meetin

Re: [Foundation-l] Expert board members - a suggestion

2009-08-27 Thread Ting Chen
Hi Thomas, one year ago when I run for the board election I came with the same proposal as you. Meanwhile I have changed my oppinion. The problem is that this would not work out. I totally agree with you that voting is the minor part of the board decision making process. Actually in many cases

Re: [Foundation-l] Omidyar Network Commits $2 Million Grant to Wikimedia Foundation

2009-08-26 Thread Ting Chen
Kropotkine_113 wrote: > Ok. It would be interesting to explain that more explicitely somewhere > (on meta or on wikimediafoundation's wiki) because It was not so obvious > (or I didn't understain...) when I read the Q&A page I mentionned. > I agree, we will improve that. > Thank you for all thes

Re: [Foundation-l] Omidyar Network Commits $2 Million Grant to Wikimedia Foundation

2009-08-26 Thread Ting Chen
Hello Kropotkine_113, since I am on the NomCom I will answer your questions. Kropotkine_113 wrote: > Has Matt Halprin been designated to the Board by the Nominating Commitee > (NOMCOM) ? This is explicity required if I read correctly this page : > http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Board_of_Trus

Re: [Foundation-l] Why can't we have $12.5 million for Wikispecies?

2009-08-26 Thread Ting Chen
I would really like WikiSpecies to improve their visibility in the community. Sadly enough, the interwiki-links from Wikispecies to other projects are already insufficient. Given that we have all those tax-box-templates I always think that it should be an easy task to write bots to make links b

[Foundation-l] Some reflections about the governance of Commons

2009-06-12 Thread Ting Chen
Hello, I had started a discussion on the Village Pump of Commons. I think Commons is a very important project, and a very complicated project. With more and more projects initiated by our chapters to encourage other organizations or individuals to give their content free and upload them to Com

Re: [Foundation-l] Information about 2009 Board of Trustees election

2009-05-27 Thread Ting Chen
Hello Philippe, I thought this year three candidates would be elected. Ting philippe wrote: > Information concerning the election rules, candidacy, and suffrage/ > voting requirements for the 2009 election to the Board of Trustees is > now posted at http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Board_electi

Re: [Foundation-l] Announcement: Chapter Selected Board Seats

2009-05-23 Thread Ting Chen
Hallo Arne, welcome and looking forward to meet you and work with you. Ting Jan-Bart de Vreede wrote: > Hello Everyone, > > As you may recall the board was restructured last year around this > time. At that time we asked the chapters to select two board members > for the board. This would h

Re: [Foundation-l] Cross-wiki articles

2009-05-03 Thread Ting Chen
effe iets anders wrote: > I think that if the public does /not/ differentiate, that is actually > quite a compliment. That actually shows that the quality is better, > because it corrects for the lower quantity and the assumptions that > English must be better because more people. For example in th

Re: [Foundation-l] Cross-wiki articles

2009-05-03 Thread Ting Chen
Robert Rohde wrote: > On Sat, May 2, 2009 at 11:09 AM, Yoni Weiden wrote: > >> The question is - shouldn't there be one set of standards for all >> Wikipedias? I think it is "unfair" that I can read about Simpsons episodes >> in the English Wikipedia, while those how speak Hebrew cannot. >>

Re: [Foundation-l] Cross-wiki articles

2009-05-02 Thread Ting Chen
Amir Elisha Aharoni wrote: > On Sat, May 2, 2009 at 21:09, Yoni Weiden wrote: > >> The question is - shouldn't there be one set of standards for all >> Wikipedias? >> > > I do think that there should be one set of standards for all > languages. But it may be hard to enforce it on an existi

Re: [Foundation-l] upcoming board elections?

2009-04-30 Thread Ting Chen
Hello Phoebe, yes three seats will be open. Ting phoebe ayers wrote: > Hi all, > I know it's still a couple of months out, but I've lost track. Are we > electing two people or three people to the Board this summer? Will all > of the community seats be open? (it looks like the terms of Kat and >

Re: [Foundation-l] Newsletter in German language: Infobrief Wiki-Welt

2009-04-24 Thread Ting Chen
Good work Ziko, thank you very much. Ting Ziko van Dijk wrote: > Hello, > > Just a few minutes ago I have sent the second edition of my "Infobrief > Wiki-Welt". It is meant for people who are interested in Wikipedia and > related subjects, but are no Wikipedians, for example journalists, > teache

Re: [Foundation-l] NPOV as common value? (was Re: Board statement regarding biographies of living people)

2009-04-22 Thread Ting Chen
Hallo Brianna, NPOV is mainly a principle of Wikipedia, later also used by Wikibooks and Wikinews. There is at least one project (Wikiversity) which explicitely allow participants not to follow NPOV, but the Disclosure of Point of Views in Wikiversity follow in principle the ideal of NPOV: It

Re: [Foundation-l] Compulsory policies for all Wikipedias

2009-04-10 Thread Ting Chen
Hello Jaska, I think in principle we have the five pillars which should be hold by all wikipedia language versions. The foundation restrains from putting up too much global policies, but there are foundation policies that also have implication to the projects. For example the privacy policy (

Re: [Foundation-l] South Korean Government's regulations on real name for Internet

2009-04-10 Thread Ting Chen
Hello Cheol, first of all, we are all very concerned about this issue and we are still sorting things out. So more informations especially from you in the country would be of great value. To your question at first: According to the comScore data ( http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Stu/comSco

Re: [Foundation-l] Frustration with the conversion engines issue

2009-04-01 Thread Ting Chen
Milos Rancic wrote: > Chinese is a little bit more complex because there are a number of > characters. However, AFAIK, Simplified and Traditional scripts share a > number of characters and some of others may be guessed form context. > > Well, Chinese is not that simple, especially for the differ

Re: [Foundation-l] Request for your input: biographies of living people

2009-03-04 Thread Ting Chen
Sue Gardner wrote: > 2009/3/3 Michael Snow > > >> But someone making a request is a sign that the article really needs a >> hard look, and quite possibly should be removed for not meeting our >> standards. So the reversed presumption of "default to delete, unless >> consensus to keep" is a good

Re: [Foundation-l] Request for your input: biographies of living people

2009-03-03 Thread Ting Chen
Aude schrieb: >> On Tue, Mar 3, 2009 at 2:25 AM, Ting Chen wrote: >> >> >>> Back to BLP. Personally I think that the policies we have related to >>> BLPs are enough, but maybe we should be put more resource in the >>> inforcement of these polici

Re: [Foundation-l] Request for your input: biographies of living people

2009-03-03 Thread Ting Chen
Sue Gardner wrote: > Can I ask: does anyone reading this thread 1) think raising the notability > threshold is a bad idea, 2) believe defaulting to deletion upon request is a > bad idea, or 3) disagree with the notion that other Wikipedias should shift > closer to the German Wikipedia's generally-l

Re: [Foundation-l] Cabal?

2009-03-02 Thread Ting Chen
Chris Down wrote: > Ipatrol has just came on IRC claiming that he has been told that the WMF is > hiring people to "validate" articles, and that the foundation is doing it in > secret by using thousands of IPs and academics. He claims that the WMF has > contracted colleges all across the US have be

Re: [Foundation-l] Request for your input: biographies of living people

2009-03-02 Thread Ting Chen
Sue Gardner wrote: > 1) If we're imagining a continuum with smaller/higher-quality/restrictive > at one end, and larger/variable-in-quality/permissive at the other I am > curious to know where the other language versions situate themselves. I am > assuming that (with some exceptions) they cl

Re: [Foundation-l] Request for your input: biographies of living people

2009-03-02 Thread Ting Chen
Sue Gardner schrieb: > There is lots I want to reply to here; this mail is just a start... > > 2009/3/2 Thomas Dalton > > >From what I can tell, a lot of subjects of BLPs that have problems > >> with their articles don't complain at all. The accounts I've heard >> (or, at least, my interpretati

Re: [Foundation-l] A kind of organisation for transnational Wikipedias

2009-02-13 Thread Ting Chen
Ziko van Dijk wrote: > Hello, > > There are some language versions of Wikipedia who have no relation to a > chapter or cannot create a chapter, or where a chapter would not be > suitable. Examples: > - nation-less languages such as Latin, Esperanto > - diaspora languages or Wikipedia communities, s

Re: [Foundation-l] Steward elections: summary, week one

2009-02-10 Thread Ting Chen
geni wrote: > 2009/2/9 Ting Chen : > >> Surely is this a prejudice. Because there is no data that support such >> an assumption. In the eight years since the being of Wikipedia I don't >> know any such case happend on any Wikimedia project. >> >> T

Re: [Foundation-l] Steward elections: summary, week one

2009-02-09 Thread Ting Chen
geni wrote: > 2009/2/9 Ziko van Dijk : > >> If I understand it right, Wikimedia or other stewards can trace what a >> single steward is doing. Even if a dictatorship forces a local steward to do >> something, there is the danger that this becomes public. >> Ziko >> > > Thats the danger for

Re: [Foundation-l] Steward elections: summary, week one

2009-02-09 Thread Ting Chen
geni schrieb: > 2009/2/9 Ting Chen : > >> I dislike this argument very much. People cannot choose that they are >> born in Iran or in China, or in the USA or Europe. Use such a trait that >> cannot be influence by a person against him is a kind of discrimination. >>

Re: [Foundation-l] Steward elections: summary, week one

2009-02-09 Thread Ting Chen
Robert Rohde wrote: > Looking at the summary and comments, I am struck by the fact that > Mardetanha [1] is getting a significant number of oppose votes from > people who believe it is fundamentally unsafe for a Steward to live in > Iran. Including comments that the Iranian government might arrest

Re: [Foundation-l] Wikia leasing office space to WMF

2009-01-23 Thread Ting Chen
The Foundation was searching for rooms because the current rooms are already quite crowded (everyone who had visited the office can confirm this) and because we will start the usability project we are going to hire three more developers. Thus the Foundation has either to lease offices in the vi

Re: [Foundation-l] Board resolutions (chapters)

2009-01-21 Thread Ting Chen
Dan Rosenthal wrote: > On Jan 21, 2009, at 2:13 AM, Florence Devouard wrote: > > >> Nathan wrote: >> >>> On Tue, Jan 20, 2009 at 5:52 PM, Erik Moeller >>> wrote: >>> >>> >>>> 2009/1/20 Ting Chen : >>>

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