On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 03:00, Samuel Klein wrote:
> On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 6:58 PM, Yaroslav M. Blanter wrote:
>>>
>> No, I think there were only like three big universal encyclopaedias still
>> being printed (Britannica, Brockhaus, and Russian Encyclopaedia?), unless I
>> am confusing things.
Watch the first 2:40 of this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i3vVVOa-Euw :)
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On Fri, Feb 24, 2012 at 18:01, Milos Rancic wrote:
> Tomorrow will be anti-ACTA protest in Belgrade and Wikimedia Serbia
> [1], along with the guests of GLAM conference [2] from France, India,
> Hungary, Italy, Czech Republic and Macedonia will be there.
You will find here some known fa
On Fri, Feb 24, 2012 at 18:56, Yaroslav M. Blanter wrote:
> PS I have no idea about the Serbian situation, and I am glad they do not
> need to discuss it anymore.
Not sure that we won't do that anyway. Just as a warning.
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4, 2012 at 18:13, Nathan wrote:
> On Fri, Feb 24, 2012 at 12:01 PM, Milos Rancic wrote:
>
>> Tomorrow will be anti-ACTA protest in Belgrade and Wikimedia Serbia
>> [1], along with the guests of GLAM conference [2] from France, India,
>> Hungary, Italy, Czech Republic and Mac
On Thu, Feb 16, 2012 at 17:52, Béria Lima wrote:
> No I will not apologize for act according with my culture.
>
> If Mister de Vreede has a problem with people from different cultures he
> shouldn't be part of a international movement.
>
> (And besides if someone would complain about misspelling,
On Mon, Feb 13, 2012 at 17:48, Florence Devouard wrote:
> Well, I am not sure if I remember well the arguments exactly (those who do,
> please help)
>
> * we supported chapter creation covering a geographical area rather than not
> mostly because a legal entity ought to be linked to a nation legal
On Mon, Feb 13, 2012 at 15:58, Lodewijk wrote:
> It would be great if we can have this discussion without making sarcastic
> remarks like this - I know it is a sensitive topic, but I also know that
> we're in a suboptimal situation here right now. In the past discussions we
> have talked about how
On Mon, Feb 13, 2012 at 14:54, Florence Devouard wrote:
> I take it you are aware that each chapter developped over time its own set
> of "partners" (similar-minded organizations that have overlapping goals with
> the chapters). These organizations have developped a specific relationship
> with a
On Sun, Feb 5, 2012 at 10:26, Samuel Klein wrote:
> On 2/2/12, Thomas Dalton wrote:
>> We're getting very off topic, but you are right that there is a problem
>> with dormant chapters. I know nothing about the Russian chapter, but I do
>> know how difficult it was to to get the first Wikimedia UK
On Wed, Feb 1, 2012 at 19:17, Joan Goma wrote:
> The situation was absolutely crazy. Some candidates had access to chapters
> wiki and could have feedback from the answers of other candidates while
> others like the one I nominated didn't. One candidate, Phoebe, published
> her answers which honor
On Wed, Feb 1, 2012 at 04:28, Risker wrote:
> Thanks for letting us all know about this, Beria.
>
> So...a few questions.
>
> Why is the discussion happening on chapterswiki, instead of in an open
> place where all Wikimedians can at least read the discussion?
>
> Will the names of the candidates
Wikimedia Serbia also supports English Wikipedians [1] (English
grammar fixes are welcome :) ):
Wikimedia Serbia wants to express solidarity with English Wikipedians
in protest against the proposed laws -- SOPA and PIPA --, which
undermine the freedom of information on Internet.
Unlike the laws i
On Sun, Jan 8, 2012 at 10:23, David Gerard wrote:
> On 8 January 2012 09:09, Milos Rancic wrote:
>> Structural help is not Wikimedia's task [yet]. There are a lot of
>> other institutions which could give them money for daily operations or
>> artifacts preservation
On Sun, Jan 8, 2012 at 02:42, Craig Franklin wrote:
> I might just be a crypto-American chauvinist (and really, that sort of
> inflammatory message is completely unnecessary on this list), so I
> apologise for any ignorance on the situation, but would Wikimedia
> Serbia really be the best organisa
On Sun, Jan 8, 2012 at 00:36, Kevin Gorman wrote:
> Although the problem has not been solved, it appears that it has at least
> been staved off:
> http://www.businessweek.com/ap/financialnews/D9S3I7DO1.htm
Obviously, cultural institutions are in bad situation and not just in
Bosnia, but in the wh
On Thu, Dec 22, 2011 at 23:26, Robin Pepermans wrote:
> Hello all,
>
> As of yesterday, when you go to a missing wiki (the redlinks on
> Special:SiteMatrix) you will no longer see a static "this wiki does
> not exist" error, but it will redirect to the Wikimedia Incubator,
> where there is either
On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 21:38, Mateus Nobre wrote:
> It's complex, Milos.
>
> We are not activists. Being a volunteer in Wikimedia do not torn ourselves
> activists.
>
> It could be, but the option to be a volunteer in Wikipedia is just a option
> to share the free knowledge, not about political
On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 19:23, Mateus Nobre wrote:
>> What did WMF do when WikiLeaks domains were seized and its fundraising
>> payment processors (PayPal, Visa, MasterCard) were cut off? Did WMF protest
>> against Internet censorship? No.
>
> Wikimedia defends itself, not the ''justice in America
On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 13:08, emijrp wrote:
> Looks like Wikimedia Foundation is very worried about censorship and the
> cut off of fundraising payment processors. Now.
>
> What did WMF do when WikiLeaks domains were seized and its fundraising
> payment processors (PayPal, Visa, MasterCard) were
On Sat, Nov 19, 2011 at 23:35, Fred Bauder wrote:
> https://www.facebook.com/pages/Internet-Workers-of-the-World/224417737626665?sk=wall
>
> Our union
I was thinking about party, but union is better :)
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I came from pub and before going to bed, I checked emails and news.
And I saw that the conflict with police is escalating. As many
Wikimedians participate in OWS and other Occupy protests in US, it
would be good that you report here what's going on with you.
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On Mon, Oct 31, 2011 at 19:36, Erik Moeller wrote:
> On Mon, Oct 31, 2011 at 11:22 AM, Michael Snow wrote:
>> If I understand correctly, the English Wikipedia is the main test
>> deployment for this as an experimental feature. While the feature
>> remains experimental, additional deployments to o
Mostly useless and mostly harmless thing becomes harmful at the moment
when people start to spend a lot of time on discussing it.
A note for future improvements: Yes, WMF should do bold actions, but
it shouldn't waste community's confidence on mostly useless
"improvements".
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On Thu, Oct 27, 2011 at 15:43, Domas Mituzas wrote:
> Hi!
>
> we recently did some practice on italian wikipedia, are we going to protest
> IP legislation in US by taking down English Wikipedia?
>
> https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2011/10/disastrous-ip-legislation-back-%E2%80%93-and-it%E2%80%99s-wo
If so, goodbye wiki, as well. At least in US.
http://yro.slashdot.org/story/11/10/26/0451240/new-version-of-protect-ip-bill-may-target-legal-sites
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On Fri, Oct 21, 2011 at 04:19, John Vandenberg wrote:
> Somehow David Gerard, Milos Rancic, Kim and Tobias Oelgarte made it to
> 96, 95, 89 and 83 posts last month. Last month Thomas Dalton,
> Jussi-Ville Heiskanen and I posted 39, 37 and 35 times respectively,
> and everyone else w
On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 18:19, Andreas Kolbe wrote:
> If we provide a filter, we have to be pragmatic, and restrict its application
> to media that significant demographics really might want to filter.
That should be designed well and maintained, too. I am really
frustrated by Google's insisting
On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 06:27, Jimmy Wales wrote:
> http://www.linkiesta.it/wikipedia-law
>
> It'd be nice to have Italian Wikipedia back up as people are waking up
> in Italy.
Wikipedia needs to strike just one day to get requests fulfilled.
That's good to know!
Congratulations to Italian Wikipe
On Wed, Oct 5, 2011 at 16:03, Domas Mituzas wrote:
> When writers guild went on strike, we could still watch old stuff, right, it
> wasn't pulled ;-)
> If doctors go on strike, people are still allowed to live, retroactive
> disease correction is not done...
When truck drivers go on strike in F
On Wed, Oct 5, 2011 at 12:49, Andreas Kolbe wrote:
> Even this corrected version does not seem to be right. As I understand the
> proposed law,
> the subject would have the right for a statement to be shown, unaltered, on
> the page (which
> actually would be possible for Wikipedia to do, via a
On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 22:58, Mathias Schindler
wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 22:55, M. Williamson wrote:
>> Another important point here is that Wikipedia is an international project;
>
> No, this is not another important point, this is exactly my point. Is
> the Kiribati based community (or a
On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 22:32, Risker wrote:
> (As an aside, kudos to Milos' rapid response and ability to organize his own
> local community in support of the concerns of our Italian counterparts.)
Thanks! It should be noted that this the decision has been supported
by 100% of WM RS Board members
On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 22:15, Neil Babbage wrote:
> Yes they are able to strike, but that still doesn't give them the right
> (legal or moral) to shut down property that doesn't belong to them. In
> any case, if the servers are located in the US then US law applies to
> their management.
You are
On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 21:58, Aaron Adrignola wrote:
> Whoever has locked out access to it.wikipedia.org should be immediately
> desysopped under emergency procedures. This site is run by the Wikimedia
> Foundation and I've seen no authorization by the WMF for the vandalism of
> one of its websit
One in English:
http://www.businessinsider.com/italy-wikipedia-wiretapping-2011-10
On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 21:57, Theo10011 wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 5, 2011 at 1:22 AM, Nathan wrote:
>
>> On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 3:37 PM, Theo10011 wrote:
>> > For those not following, Italian Wikipedia went into lockd
Wikimedia Serbia supports Italian Wikipedians in denouncing the
proposed law in the Italian Senate known as the "Wiretapping Act" and
its paragraph 29, which undermines the free speech standards of our
civilization.
Wikimedia Serbia fully supports the protest of Italian Wikipedians and
hopes that
On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 16:03, Milos Rancic wrote:
> I think that Wikimedians should give response on that:
> * Writing emails and letters to Italian embassies in your country. (I
> will email them immediately.)
> * Demonstrate -- 5 people are enough -- in front of embassy in your cou
I think that Wikimedians should give response on that:
* Writing emails and letters to Italian embassies in your country. (I
will email them immediately.)
* Demonstrate -- 5 people are enough -- in front of embassy in your country.
* If you are in EU country, ask your EU parliament members to talk
On Sat, Oct 1, 2011 at 17:18, church.of.emacs.ml
wrote:
> On 09/21/2011 03:47 AM, Milos Rancic wrote:
>> * Create en.safe.wikipedia.org […]
>
> Then governments/ISPs/institutions could block unsafe-Wikipedia via DNS
> blocks. This is, compared to DPI, quite easy.
> Using
On Fri, Sep 30, 2011 at 21:12, David Gerard wrote:
> On 30 September 2011 20:04, Michael Snow wrote:
>> On this score, it seems likely that we are failing to live up to one of
>> our core principles, that of neutrality. I think we need significantly
>> better editorial judgment applied to many of
On Fri, Sep 30, 2011 at 21:01, David Gerard wrote:
> http://www.berlios.de/
>
> Is there anything we could do to help? Is this too far outside our area?
>
> I recall how useful and helpful BerliOS was back in the olden days
> when it was Wikipedia's downtime backup and news source ... before
> Wik
On Fri, Sep 30, 2011 at 19:59, Sue Gardner wrote:
> I just want to point out quickly that I am not American, and my
> position on all these issues is actually a very Canadian one. Ray and
> Risker and other Canadians will recognize this.
>
> Canada doesn't really feel itself to have a fixed nation
On Fri, Sep 30, 2011 at 18:07, Sarah Stierch wrote:
> Uh, ok. I'm pansexual and I like pornography. I'm also a feminist (I believe
> in equality). I'm also tired of being accused of being a prudish American
> because I think it's stupid that we have to have a mediocre photograph of a
> naked woman
On Fri, Sep 30, 2011 at 18:46, Risker wrote:
> Do you have any reason to believe that a statistically significant number
> and percentage of female editors of the German Wikipedia are active
> participants in this mailing list?
No, but there are German Wikipedians who could research that issue.
On Fri, Sep 30, 2011 at 18:29, Risker wrote:
> I think there is much that can be discussed on the range of topic areas
> covered in this thread. But we must keep in mind that the views expressed
> here are those of the individuals, and there is absolutely insufficient
> information for any of us t
On Fri, Sep 30, 2011 at 16:24, Risker wrote:
> Milos, I believe this is exactly the kind of post that Sue was talking about
> in her blog. It is aggressive, it is alienating, and it is intimidating to
> others who may have useful and progressive ideas but are repeatedly seeing
> the opinions of ot
On Fri, Sep 30, 2011 at 16:23, Sarah Stierch wrote:
>> One more, but forgot her name and too lazy to search. German females
>> in discussion on German Wikipedia should be also checked.
>>
>> Up to now, all females from US (four of them) are in favor of filter
>> (though, Sarah just tactically) and
On Fri, Sep 30, 2011 at 15:54, Sumana Harihareswara
wrote:
>> (As > example: the only 2 girls who commented here - phoebe and me - are in
>> opposite sides. ...)
> -*B?ria Lima*
>
> Technically, you, Sarah Stierch, Phoebe, and Sue have all commented --
> at least 4 women, not just 2.
One more, bu
According to [1]:
* 15 January: English
* 16 March: Catalan, German
* 23 March: French
* 3 May: Swedish
* 11 May: Chinese, Esperanto,Hebrew, Italian, Japanese, Portuguese,
Spanish, Russian
* 19 June: Dutch
* 26 September: Polish
* 16 November: Afrikaans
* 26 November: Norwegian (Bokmal)
* 6 Decemb
On Sat, Sep 24, 2011 at 00:51, David Levy wrote:
> Milos Rancic wrote:
>
>> Note that more than 50% of money comes from US and that it could be
>> easily assumed that at least 10% of ~$10M given by US citizens and
>> corporations want to have a kind of "family frie
On Sat, Sep 24, 2011 at 00:51, David Levy wrote:
> Milos Rancic wrote:
>
>> There are around 300M of readers and less than 30k of the extended
>> pool of editors, which brings number of 0,01%. Thus, not just
>> irrelevant, but much less than the margin of statistical error
On Fri, Sep 23, 2011 at 16:27, Fae wrote:
> Such "school" and "safesearch" variations already exist. Why waste
> donor's money creating more?
Note that more than 50% of money comes from US and that it could be
easily assumed that at least 10% of ~$10M given by US citizens and
corporations want to
On Fri, Sep 23, 2011 at 21:20, Milos Rancic wrote:
> There are around 300M of readers and less than 30k of the extended
> poll of editors, which brings number of 0,01%. Thus, not just
poll => pool
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On Fri, Sep 23, 2011 at 19:26, Kim Bruning wrote:
> "Dear Press: a self-described 13 YO joined Wikiproject Pornography.
> Wikipedians support him. webcitation.org/61v0ykxJe
> webcitation.org/61v1FfW3K"
> - http://twitter.com/#!/lsanger/status/117299089439334400
Who cares what Sanger said,
On Fri, Sep 23, 2011 at 20:42, David Levy wrote:
> I find it odd that some are inclined to discount the German
> Wikipedia's poll on the basis that it reflects the views of editors
> (as opposed to readers as a whole). Setting aside the general
> public's ignorance of the WMF projects' core princ
On Fri, Sep 23, 2011 at 18:43, Stephen Bain wrote:
> My point is that the dewiki poll being worded in a manner that is
> pleasing to people who have critiqued the Foundation-wide survey does
> not render it representative, when it was participated in by at most
> one eightieth of the members of th
On Fri, Sep 23, 2011 at 17:20, David Gerard wrote:
> On 23 September 2011 16:17, Milos Rancic wrote:
>> Obviously, majority of those who have small number of edits --
>> who represent specific part of readers, those who have opinion toward
>> Wikipedia articles, but who don&
On Fri, Sep 23, 2011 at 14:03, wrote:
> After some thinking I come to the conclusion that this whole
> discussion is a social phenomenon.
>
> You probably know how some topics when mentioned in newspaper articles
> or blogs spur wild arguments in the comments sections. When the
> article mentions
On Wed, Sep 21, 2011 at 22:04, David Levy wrote:
> An alternative proposal (which is *far* simpler and maintains
> neutrality) already has the public backing of WMF trustee Samuel
> Klein:
Oh, I don't read Meta pages related to Image filter. It's definitely
better option!
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On Wed, Sep 21, 2011 at 20:38, Thomas Dalton wrote:
> An opt-in filter using the same URL as everything else won't affect
> anything else either.
Except:
1) fierce opposition from significant part of the community. (I don't
care about the quality of opposition, just about the fact that it's
very
On Wed, Sep 21, 2011 at 21:09, Tobias Oelgarte
wrote:
> You choose discussions about images in a "circus" outside the context
> they belong to? This won't be "circus", since we just reduced the amount
> of arguments from some to zero. If combatants argue about a topic
> without having a word left,
On Wed, Sep 21, 2011 at 20:47, David Levy wrote:
> Milos Rancic wrote:
>> Don't worry! Any implementation of censorship project would lead to
>> endless troll-fests which would be more dumb than Youtube comments.
>> The point is just to kick out them out of productive pr
On Wed, Sep 21, 2011 at 19:10, Thomas Dalton wrote:
> What is the advantage of that compared with the feature as it was
> originally proposed? All you've done is made the URL more complicated.
> You'll still need to use user preferences to determine which images
> are getting hidden, so why can't
On Wed, Sep 21, 2011 at 18:00, David Levy wrote:
> Some people won't be content until Wikipedia's prose conveys their
> cultural/religious/spiritual beliefs as absolute truth. Should the
> WMF provide en.[insert belief system].wikipedia.org so they can edit
> it and leave the rest of us alone?
D
On Wed, Sep 21, 2011 at 16:45, David Gerard wrote:
> On 21 September 2011 15:43, Milos Rancic wrote:
>> They want that censoring tool and I think that they won't be content
>> until they get it. Thus, let them have it and let them leave the rest
>> of us alone.
>
>
On Wed, Sep 21, 2011 at 15:16, David Gerard wrote:
> On 21 September 2011 14:14, Jussi-Ville Heiskanen
> wrote:
>> The real problem here is that if there was a real market for stupid
>> sites like that, they would already be there. And they are not, which
>> does seem to point to the conclusion
On Wed, Sep 21, 2011 at 15:23, Stephen Bain wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 21, 2011 at 11:06 PM, Milos Rancic wrote:
>> It is not the job of
>> Commons community to work on personal wishes of American
>> right-wingers.
>
> Well, while we're tarring large groups of people
On Wed, Sep 21, 2011 at 11:10, WereSpielChequers
wrote:
> Forking and creating "safe" versions of all our wikis has the same
> disadvantage of any other fork, the wisdom of crowds is dissipated if the
> crowd is ever further divided. In that sense this would be as much a mistake
> as it was to spi
I am serious now, please read below as a serious proposal.
I was talking today with a friend about the image filter, and we came
to the possible solution. Of course, if those who are in favor of
censorship have honest intentions to allow to particular people to
access Wikipedia articles despite th
On Sun, Sep 18, 2011 at 12:44, Daniel ~ Leinad wrote:
> Hmmm... a few days ago we didn't have any problems to retrieve history
> (2001-2011) of Main Pages of Polish Wikipedia:
> http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.10150309409533189.363981.147056473188
> - similar should be with other versions
May someone ask Internet Archive to open histories of the Main Pages
of Wikipedias in their Time Machine? If they harvested it at all.
Their Time Machine is usually the only exact way to find when early
Wikipedias were created, but histories of the pages are blocked
because of our robots.txt.
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On Sat, Sep 17, 2011 at 18:35, M. Williamson wrote:
> If all Kurdish editors had been in favor of having a "Kurdish Wikipedia" as
> an "emblem of their unified ethnic identity", as you claim, then there would
> never have been a separate Sorani Wikipedia.
That's true. For example, we have just on
On Sat, Sep 17, 2011 at 00:38, Nathan wrote:
> I don't think White_Cat's nomination is purely without ulterior motive,
> unfortunately. As some editors from ku.wp have alluded to, the issue of the
> name and designation of the "Kurdish Wikipedia" has ethnic and nationalist
> ramifications on both
On Sat, Sep 17, 2011 at 11:23, David Gerard wrote:
> (I'm now trying to work out how to get the images without using up all
> my bandwidth allowances ever.)
Something like:
rsync -av --bwlimit=50 (if you want to give ~5Mbps; number is in KiBps)
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On Fri, Sep 16, 2011 at 21:38, Ray Saintonge wrote:
> I don't see a big money issue for Wiktionary either.
It's not about big money, it's about money necessary for a project to live.
Targeting articles in medicine is quite good, as they are necessary
and not covered as well as, for example, astr
On Fri, Sep 16, 2011 at 20:17, Kim Bruning wrote:
> On Fri, Sep 16, 2011 at 09:01:04PM +0200, Milos Rancic wrote:
>> It's not so hard to guess if you followed them for some time:
>> * Ting: ambivalent; would be much more happy without the whole drama
>> * Jan-Bart: not
On Fri, Sep 16, 2011 at 19:56, Tobias Oelgarte
wrote:
> Am 16.09.2011 19:13, schrieb Milos Rancic:
> You would have to proof that your facts are indeed true. But if you
> accept it as a huge difference between cultures, how can you impose a
> filter for a culture that doesn't ne
On Fri, Sep 16, 2011 at 19:35, M. Williamson wrote:
> In this case, I do not think anything local changed by langcom, the
> foundation, or anybody else unless it creates legal problems. The only thing
> this request covers is the code itself, which is currently wrong since "ku"
> is a macrolanguag
On Fri, Sep 16, 2011 at 18:52, Tobias Oelgarte
wrote:
> Am 16.09.2011 16:15, schrieb Milos Rancic:
>> It's about implementing image filter on images which have copyright
>> problems in Germany (but not in US), not about nudity.
>>
> And it got awesomely off-topic. N
2011/9/16 M. Williamson :
> It's not irrelevant because if approved, it could be added to list of
> pending name changes.
The problem with the request is that it's not in the scope of Language
committee. Renaming "zh-min-nan" into "nan" is in the scope, as it
deals with simple code change. Renamin
On Fri, Sep 16, 2011 at 16:27, Jussi-Ville Heiskanen
wrote:
> What is your obsession with nudity about? The filter isn't
> about nudity.
Ah, you are right! I completely missed the point of the image filter
because my obsession... It's about scared places of indigenous peoples
of Australia and sim
On Fri, Sep 16, 2011 at 15:07, Jussi-Ville Heiskanen
wrote:
> On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 6:53 PM, Milos Rancic wrote:
>> On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 16:46, Andrew Lih wrote:
>
>>> In my book I described Nupedia, and how that system of having a paid head
>>> didn'
On Fri, Sep 16, 2011 at 13:45, Jussi-Ville Heiskanen
wrote:
> On Fri, Sep 16, 2011 at 2:10 PM, Milos Rancic wrote:
>> On Fri, Sep 16, 2011 at 12:50, Tobias Oelgarte
>> wrote:
>>> Am 16.09.2011 12:42, schrieb Milos Rancic:
>>>> On Fri, Sep 16, 2011 at 12:39,
On Fri, Sep 16, 2011 at 12:50, Tobias Oelgarte
wrote:
> Am 16.09.2011 12:42, schrieb Milos Rancic:
>> On Fri, Sep 16, 2011 at 12:39, emijrp wrote:
>>> I think that we can do a nice move here. We can enable image filter in
>>> German Wikipedia for all those who don&#x
On Fri, Sep 16, 2011 at 12:39, emijrp wrote:
> I think that we can do a nice move here. We can enable image filter in
> German Wikipedia for all those who don't want to see
> copyrighted-images-for-German-law, meanwhile allowing other people to see
> all Commons splendour. Using the image filter t
On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 06:12, Milos Rancic wrote:
> I didn't say that we shouldn't rely on volunteers, I said that we need
> for the beginning one employed person: employee which management would
> be Wikinews community.
I think that the syntax in the last sentence is broken
On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 16:52, Andrew Lih wrote:
> On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 7:46 AM, Andrew Lih wrote:
>>
>> In my book I described Nupedia, and how that system of having a paid head
>> didn't work out (namely, Larry Sanger as editor in chief).
>>
>
> In fact, if you look at the process-heavy syst
On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 16:46, Andrew Lih wrote:
> On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 6:52 AM, Milos Rancic wrote:
>>
>> And, as Andrew Lih mentioned, Wikipedia *had* payed editor at the
>> beginning.
>>
>>
> Did I say this? I don't remember saying so.
I thought th
On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 16:43, Andrew Lih wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 9:15 PM, Milos Rancic wrote:
>
>> On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 20:02, Andrew Lih wrote:
>> > The question is, would paid staff be a healthy temporary boost for
>> > sustainability or be futile a
On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 14:34, Thomas Dalton wrote:
> Wikipedia has never had paid staff writing content, which is what was
> suggested for Wikinews. The community doesn't need managing, it needs
> to be large enough to produce enough content to attract readers (some
> of whom will then become wri
On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 20:02, Andrew Lih wrote:
> The question is, would paid staff be a healthy temporary boost for
> sustainability or be futile artificial life support? I fear it's the
> latter.
As Wikipedia requires WMF employees to keep servers running, Wikinews
requires one or small number
On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 20:03, Theo10011 wrote:
> certain Elections come to mind. For example, there is the recent case of the
> upcoming steward election which was previously handled by Cary as a
> Volunteer Coordinator (among several dozen things Cary did) but since his
> departure, those tasks
On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 18:19, Yaroslav M. Blanter wrote:
> On Wed, 14 Sep 2011 17:48:58 +0200, Milos Rancic
>>
>> Theo, volunteers do not care about things which require to be
>> accurate. Besides that, more and more volunteer positions were
>> replaced by paid staff
On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 17:44, Stephen Bain wrote:
> On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 1:26 AM, Jussi-Ville Heiskanen
> wrote:
>> "We do realize that what we did was wrong, and this is clearly not a
>> situation where we can go on with the 'your opinions have been
>> duly noted' haughty attitude. We apolog
On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 16:17, Theo10011 wrote:
> My main point (although I *did* make it clear), was that volunteer-work is
> what this movement is built on. Tell me a single content project that was
> built by paid employees? If we abandon our identity, then how would we still
> be volunteer-dri
On Tue, Sep 13, 2011 at 12:24, wrote:
> It's my opinion, that Wikimedia should try to support a Wikinews by
> paying a editor in chief and a core team of reporters to secure that
> the project always stays above the critical mass.
That's a kind of heresy. But it's impossible to drive [relevant]
On Tue, Sep 13, 2011 at 07:39, Keegan Peterzell wrote:
> Milos, you state that Americans see everything involving nudity under the
> label as porn and offensive, and filtering with that mindset is a bad idea.
> You're correct about Americans acting that way in general.
Just a short note: No, I d
2011/9/12 Tomasz Ganicz :
> W dniu 12 września 2011 19:30 użytkownik Tomasz Kozłowski
> napisał:
>> On 12.09.2011 19:05, Milos Rancic wrote:
>>
>>> Eh, wrong example. There is Wikimedia Macedonia and they really hate
>>> monuments because every local
On Mon, Sep 12, 2011 at 11:04, Yaroslav M. Blanter wrote:
> Also, if there was no group let us give a random example - in Macedonia -
> who wanted to organize the contest, still it would be a good idea to open a
> category for WLM in Macedonia, just to get a chance to indeed involve new
> people a
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