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2011-10-10 Thread Geoffrey Plourde
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Re: [Foundation-l] chapter board seats (was: Greg Kohs and Peter Damian)

2010-10-20 Thread Geoffrey Plourde
Phoebe, If concerned about equality, why not have two chapter seats and two community seats? From: phoebe ayers To: Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List Sent: Wed, October 20, 2010 2:52:46 PM Subject: [Foundation-l] chapter board seats (was: Greg Kohs and Pe

Re: [Foundation-l] Greg Kohs and Peter Damian

2010-10-20 Thread Geoffrey Plourde
Can you explain your statement more? Since only one or three seats are selected by the community out of nine(depending on your definition of community)? From: Guillaume Paumier To: Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List Sent: Wed, October 20, 2010 9:05:11 AM Subje

Re: [Foundation-l] 2010-11 Annual Plan Now Posted to FoundationWebsite

2010-07-01 Thread Geoffrey Plourde
I would say the biggest reason why Wikipedia is still top dog would probably be "anyone can edit" combined with timing. From: Thomas Dalton To: Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List Sent: Thu, July 1, 2010 9:01:47 AM Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] 2010-11 Annual Pla

Re: [Foundation-l] Your abuse of moderator status

2010-06-27 Thread Geoffrey Plourde
Now if we were to get into a pissing contest over the top organizers of Wikiversity, I would say the persons most likely to be considered founders would be John Schmidt, Cormac Lawler, and Robert Horning. Ottava does have a point that he is one of the most senior active custodians, since not tha

Re: [Foundation-l] [Offlist] Legal requirements for sexual content -- help, please!

2010-05-21 Thread Geoffrey Plourde
iable here in cases where it has not been made aware of potential violations. Section 230 probably applies up to the point where the Foundation refuses to take appropriate action. I'm not a lawyer though, so I might be wrong here. What do you think?   G

Re: [Foundation-l] Sexual Imagery on Commons: where the discussion is happening

2010-05-09 Thread Geoffrey Plourde
Wouldn't regulating content mean abdicating the role of webhost, which would call Section 230 into question? From: David Gerard To: susanpgard...@gmail.com; Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List Sent: Sun, May 9, 2010 4:21:46 PM Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] Sexu

Re: [Foundation-l] New project proposal: wiki-based troubleshooting

2010-05-04 Thread Geoffrey Plourde
This is a interesting proposal, but I'd suggest taking the idea to Meta. There is already a Symptom checker at WebMD, but it could potentially upon a legal can of worms for WM to get involved in medical troubleshooting. From: Yao Ziyuan To: foundation-l@lists

Re: [Foundation-l] Wikiversity

2010-03-19 Thread Geoffrey Plourde
David and Erik, I must respectfully disagree with your belief that we need stronger global blocking. Each community should set its own behavior standards, not have them imposed from above. Just because we consider a person a troll on one project does not automatically make them a troll on othe

Re: [Foundation-l] How to kill a mailing list

2010-03-16 Thread Geoffrey Plourde
I support the changes, its cleaned up my inbox and made the discussions I'm seeing more worthy of attention. The list is running better than ever. From: Benjamin Lees To: Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List Sent: Tue, March 16, 2010 9:43:22 PM Subject: Re: [Fou

Re: [Foundation-l] Building up the reserves

2010-03-03 Thread Geoffrey Plourde
Veronique, what would be the maximum we'd want to go with a reserve fund. I know that with Army Emergency Relief for example, they get dinged by Charity Navigator for having massive reserves of money. What do you think the maximum would be for Wikimedia? Fro

Re: [Foundation-l] Fwd: [Wikipedia-l] Please HELP save Wikipedia history ! (urgent)

2010-02-21 Thread Geoffrey Plourde
That sounds like a good idea, maybe make it a Wikiversity course? Or run training on IRC? From: Chad To: Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List Sent: Sun, February 21, 2010 3:15:20 AM Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] Fwd: [Wikipedia-l] Please HELP save Wikipedia histo

Re: [Foundation-l] advertising craigslist

2009-12-15 Thread Geoffrey Plourde
Can we kill this thread? It appears quite clear that the Foundation staff have decided to run the Craig ad, and nothing here will affect their decision. From: Waerth To: Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List Sent: Tue, December 15, 2009 11:02:54 AM Subject: Re:

Re: [Foundation-l] Wikimedia and Environment

2009-12-12 Thread Geoffrey Plourde
The only reason the servers and internet access produce CO2 emissions is because of the defective and antiquated energy production systems we use across the world. As we move towards more efficient and "cleaner" means of energy production, the carbon footprint should decrease. Moving servers

Re: [Foundation-l] open wikis for chapters....?

2009-12-12 Thread Geoffrey Plourde
There are some pages that should legally be restricted, like the bylaws. i do believe that most pages should be open to public editing because of the risk of some non member Aussie thinking of a better way to do something and being stifled. From: private musi

Re: [Foundation-l] Assume Good Faith and Don't Bite Newbees

2009-12-09 Thread Geoffrey Plourde
The spirit of the one person per account policy was to prevent people from disclaiming responsibility by claiming another person did it. I feel that allowing accounts for GLAMs would not violate the intent of the policy, but suggest that the account be required to verify, maintain a valid email

Re: [Foundation-l] Housekeeping: One user on moderation today

2009-11-30 Thread Geoffrey Plourde
Thats a great idea! The exchanges were the biggest clog previously, and this seems like a reasonable warning to use. From: William Pietri To: Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List Sent: Mon, November 30, 2009 11:57:21 AM Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] Housekeeping:

Re: [Foundation-l] Housekeeping: One user on moderation today

2009-11-30 Thread Geoffrey Plourde
wrote: > Ryan Lomonaco wrote: > > On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 2:17 AM, Geoffrey Plourde >wrote: > > > >> Another possibility would be imposing a throttle on replies > >> to threads, e.g. 5 per thread per day. > >> > > That's something tha

Re: [Foundation-l] Housekeeping: One user on moderation today

2009-11-29 Thread Geoffrey Plourde
I really hated the idea of posting limits at first, but must commend the list mods for implementing it. Now that there is a specific cost to replies, I have scaled back on the amount of emails I have sent and prioritized based on discussion. Another possibility would be imposing a throttle on re

Re: [Foundation-l] Pedophilia and the Non discrimination policy

2009-11-29 Thread Geoffrey Plourde
Foundation level issue is whether or not a community have the right to exclude a specific class or category of users from editing based upon unsubstantiated claims of potential misbehavior? From: George Herbert To: Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List Sent: Sun,

Re: [Foundation-l] Follow up: Fan History joining the WMF family

2009-11-29 Thread Geoffrey Plourde
'06 wikiversity From: Jon Davis To: Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List Sent: Sun, November 29, 2009 12:19:34 PM Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] Follow up: Fan History joining the WMF family Perhaps she mistook the meta proposals for strat. Where, by all accounts,

Re: [Foundation-l] Pedophilia and the Non discrimination policy

2009-11-28 Thread Geoffrey Plourde
Thats baloney. It is a slippery slope. You are making a distinction based on what might happen, and prejudging a class of individuals. This doesn't help wiki, but sends a message that some people are less worthy than others."I don't like it" is not a valid reason to disenfranchise people on susp

Re: [Foundation-l] Pedophilia and the Non discrimination policy

2009-11-28 Thread Geoffrey Plourde
So you are taking a stance based on one particular class of criminal behavior? Following your reasoning, we should be blocking all self professed hackers/crackers too. They might do something illegal for jollies to disrupt the community, so lets block em! Fr

Re: [Foundation-l] Can you tell us about ... - An Idea to encourage more edits

2009-11-24 Thread Geoffrey Plourde
We also might want to look into policy overhauls to reduce barriers to contribution. From: David Moran To: Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List Sent: Tue, November 24, 2009 5:53:35 AM Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] Can you tell us about ... - An Idea to encourage

Re: [Foundation-l] Building The Great Monument of Bureaucracy

2009-11-22 Thread Geoffrey Plourde
I see a lot of well meaning people responding here, but maybe its time to go back to the basics. No non free pictures, period. No more bureaucracy plus cost savings on not having to run the permissions systems. From: Tomasz Ganicz To: Wikimedia Foundation Ma

Re: [Foundation-l] Proposal: Fan History joining the WMF family

2009-11-18 Thread Geoffrey Plourde
At first glance, my inclination would be recycle bin the proposal, but after reading comments, I think there is some merit to the proposal. I would support bringing this in and expanding it to cover group dynamics (Wikitribes). This project could be valuable to sociology and psychology as it pr

Re: [Foundation-l] Alphascript Publishing scam

2009-10-14 Thread Geoffrey Plourde
Is 19.95 your cost? I'ver mentioned before that this is the best way to effectively put them out of business.   From: Gregory Kohs To: foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Sent: Wed, October 14, 2009 10:10:32 AM Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] Alphascript Publishing s

Re: [Foundation-l] (no subject)

2009-10-13 Thread Geoffrey Plourde
This is a bit different than liberating software for personal or small commercial use. This is roughly equivalent to someone printing out britannica articles and selling them for 20-150 quid From: "jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com" To: Wikimedia Foundation Mail

Re: [Foundation-l] "Wikipedia" localization

2009-10-04 Thread Geoffrey Plourde
The issue I see is that if a computer doesn't have japanese character support, ja-wp would be hard to navigate. From: aokomoriuta To: foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Sent: Sun, October 4, 2009 3:06:39 AM Subject: [Foundation-l] "Wikipedia" localization Hell

Re: [Foundation-l] Office hours

2009-09-28 Thread Geoffrey Plourde
Best option would be to have two sets, one for Europe and one for the Americas. From: Cary Bass To: Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List Sent: Monday, September 28, 2009 2:38:12 PM Subject: [Foundation-l] Office hours -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SH

Re: [Foundation-l] The $1.7 million question

2009-09-15 Thread Geoffrey Plourde
While I like the idea of bounties, this idea actually has merit. To make him work, I would give him the amount of money for childcare as a down payment, with the wages payable on delivery. Can someone from the Foundation look into this? We have quite a few talented mooks, who might be able to ha

Re: [Foundation-l] Proposal: Commons Force

2009-09-07 Thread Geoffrey Plourde
It still isn't the place of a third party to police someone else's copyrights. From: Sage Ross To: Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List Sent: Monday, September 7, 2009 3:32:09 PM Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] Proposal: Commons Force On Mon, Sep 7, 2009 at 6:10 PM

Re: [Foundation-l] Proposal: Commons Force

2009-09-07 Thread Geoffrey Plourde
s, not the community. From: David Gerard To: Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List Sent: Monday, September 7, 2009 3:12:11 PM Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] Proposal: Commons Force 2009/9/7 Sage Ross : > On Mon, Sep 7, 2009 at 3:34 PM, Geoffrey Plourde wrote: >> The Commons Force pr

Re: [Foundation-l] Proposal: Commons Force

2009-09-07 Thread Geoffrey Plourde
I agree, vigilantism is not necessary and counter productive. The Commons Force proposal represents a clear and present danger, both for whoever hosts it and participates in it. It is not for a third party to intervene in a contract between two people and only two people. If the Commons Force re

Re: [Foundation-l] Head of Communications position open?

2009-09-07 Thread Geoffrey Plourde
We'll know tomorrow whats up. From: Sfmammamia To: Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List Sent: Monday, September 7, 2009 10:27:57 AM Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] Head of Communications position open? No, the print ad definitely says "Head of Communications" -- in

Re: [Foundation-l] WMF seeking to sub-lease office space?

2009-09-06 Thread Geoffrey Plourde
Why not the Signposts, Wikizine, and the SF mailing list? No need for "exclusives". From: geni To: Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List Sent: Sunday, September 6, 2009 1:43:41 AM Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] WMF seeking to sub-lease office space? 2009/9/6 Ger

Re: [Foundation-l] WMF seeking to sub-lease office space?

2009-09-05 Thread Geoffrey Plourde
Mailing List Sent: Saturday, September 5, 2009 4:43:57 PM Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] WMF seeking to sub-lease office space? 2009/9/6 Thomas Dalton : > 2009/9/6 Geoffrey Plourde : >> The plan may have been mentioned ages ago, but a press release about the >> move would have

Re: [Foundation-l] WMF seeking to sub-lease office space?

2009-09-05 Thread Geoffrey Plourde
The plan may have been mentioned ages ago, but a press release about the move would have eliminated the opportunity for trolling. 2009/9/5 Thomas Dalton : > The Foundation has been sufficiently transparent. The reasons for > leasing office space from Wikia were explained in detail when that >

Re: [Foundation-l] WMF seeking to sub-lease office space?

2009-09-05 Thread Geoffrey Plourde
The best way to end this in the future is to give the community a brief heads up along the line of "Hey y'all, we will be moving to NEW ADDRESS effective DATE" This lets us know beforehand that the business address is going to change, and allows the Foundation to leverage moving support from SF

Re: [Foundation-l] WMF seeking to sub-lease office space?

2009-09-05 Thread Geoffrey Plourde
Its a serious charge that is difficult to prove. The publicly released financial statements are too general in nature to be useful. The only way to prove/disprove this allegation and head off others is for the Foundation to become more transparent. It is natural for people to come to assumptions

Re: [Foundation-l] Opt-out global sysop proposal

2009-08-30 Thread Geoffrey Plourde
I think that swearing in a battalion of global sysops is both necessary and a better idea than electing more stewards. Vandalism looks bad and deters people from contributing. Lets face it, who wants to visit a library with all the books defaced in various shades of Crayons. Also, does anyone wa

Re: [Foundation-l] Expert board members - a suggestion

2009-08-28 Thread Geoffrey Plourde
While I disagree with the modesty of the department head salaries, I feel that it is up to the ED to decide who gets paid what. I have qualms about the increases in expenditures, but am encouraged by the resourcefulness of staff in raising money. From: Thomas

Re: [Foundation-l] Expert board members - a suggestion

2009-08-27 Thread Geoffrey Plourde
There can only be one leader in a business. From: Thomas Dalton To: Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 1:26:22 PM Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] Expert board members - a suggestion 2009/8/27 Geoffrey Plourde : > Well, I h

Re: [Foundation-l] Expert board members - a suggestion

2009-08-27 Thread Geoffrey Plourde
Well, I have never understood why the board is so involved. Generally in business, the Board hires and fires the CEO and that's it. I also consider expert seats a waste of space as that is why we have department heads. Then again, I suspect I am and always will be in the minority. _

Re: [Foundation-l] Alphascript Publishing: 1900+ copy&pasted books from Wikipedia

2009-08-17 Thread Geoffrey Plourde
The single best way to kill them is to reprint the exact same books, then sell them at the low low price of cost + 10%. When people start snapping them up like fruitcakes, Alphascript will be finished. From: Peter Coombe To: Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List

Re: [Foundation-l] Upcoming tech hiring: CTO position split

2009-08-09 Thread Geoffrey Plourde
High Priest of Mediawiki? From: Dan Rosenthal To: Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List Sent: Saturday, August 8, 2009 5:59:14 PM Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] Upcoming tech hiring: CTO position split Somehow I'm not disappointed that we're having a problem trying

Re: [Foundation-l] Board election spamming

2009-08-08 Thread Geoffrey Plourde
Although I had already voted, I was not bothered by one tiny email reminding me that I was eligible to vote. Thanks guys, hopefully this will get people to the polls. From: Casey Brown To: Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List Sent: Friday, August 7, 2009 9:57:

Re: [Foundation-l] Analysis of statistics

2009-07-25 Thread Geoffrey Plourde
Correct, we have built a system that does not value new users, but rather seeks to get rid of them. Its a pattern I have observed in some businesses as well. Subconsciously, people hate change. While they consciously want new users or wonder why the flow has stopped, their subconscious is busy e

Re: [Foundation-l] Dispute resolution mailing list

2009-07-24 Thread Geoffrey Plourde
Well, if the list is for general dispute resolution technique, it could be valuable to all projects. From: Mike.lifeguard To: Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2009 6:06:10 PM Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] Dispute resolution mailing li

Re: [Foundation-l] Dispute resolution mailing list

2009-07-23 Thread Geoffrey Plourde
Nothing prevents you from starting your own mailing list if Cary won't. As I am not a member of the wikien cesspool, what purpose are you thinking of? Geoffrey From: stevertigo To: Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2009 1:22:27 PM S

Re: [Foundation-l] foundation-l Digest, Vol 64, Issue 51

2009-07-18 Thread Geoffrey Plourde
Digitizing isn't really that hard. You take a scanner, upload an image, label it, repeat. From: Durova To: foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Sent: Saturday, July 18, 2009 9:28:28 AM Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] foundation-l Digest, Vol 64, Issue 51 2009/7/18 D

Re: [Foundation-l] A heads up

2009-07-15 Thread Geoffrey Plourde
This is pictures right? I fail to see how pictures aren't useable to everyone, as they are universal. From: Gerard Meijssen To: Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2009 12:23:36 PM Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] A heads up Hoi, The curr

Re: [Foundation-l] About that "sue and be damned" to the NationalPortrait Gallery ...

2009-07-11 Thread Geoffrey Plourde
What an insult, Derrick only rates a solicitor From: Gregory Maxwell To: Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2009 3:17:50 PM Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] About that "sue and be damned" to the NationalPortrait Gallery ... On Sat, Jul 11,

Re: [Foundation-l] About that "sue and be damned" to the National Portrait Gallery ...

2009-07-11 Thread Geoffrey Plourde
Lets finish up the press releases and drop this thread. NPG can read it too. Has a US press release been sent out? From: John at Darkstar To: Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2009 10:12:14 AM Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] About that "s

Re: [Foundation-l] About that "sue and be damned" to the National Portrait Gallery ...

2009-07-10 Thread Geoffrey Plourde
Dcoetzee cannot comply, as the deletions would result in the loss of his admin bit. From: Nathan To: Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List Sent: Friday, July 10, 2009 7:32:39 PM Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] About that "sue and be damned" to the National Portrait

Re: [Foundation-l] About that "sue and be damned" to the National Portrait Gallery ...

2009-07-10 Thread Geoffrey Plourde
First, I doubt that the FBI would investigate a barratry complaint (Counselors, does such a provision exist in the US Code?) If they did, the courts would be reluctant to actually hear such a case because the person being prosecuted would actually have to be present to answer to the charges. I h

Re: [Foundation-l] [Fwd: A chapters-related question]

2009-07-06 Thread Geoffrey Plourde
Do we really need so much stuff for these groups? I agree with a basic charter for each group, but all the regulation (yearly renewal, regular reporting) seems bureaucratic and pointless. It is not the wikimedian way to control but rather to nurture an organic community. Also, we should let thes

Re: [Foundation-l] Info/Law blog: Using Wikisource as an Alternative Open Access Repository for Legal Scholarship

2009-06-20 Thread Geoffrey Plourde
unpleasant consequences. From: Ray Saintonge To: Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List Sent: Saturday, June 20, 2009 5:07:44 PM Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] Info/Law blog: Using Wikisource as an Alternative Open Access Repository for Legal Scholarship Geoffrey

Re: [Foundation-l] Info/Law blog: Using Wikisource as an Alternative Open Access Repository for Legal Scholarship

2009-06-20 Thread Geoffrey Plourde
If a bot has a meaningful effect on server load (i.e. page requests), it falls under the category of malicious software, which is highly illegal. From: Ray Saintonge To: Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List Sent: Saturday, June 20, 2009 2:35:52 PM Subject: Re: [

Re: [Foundation-l] Info/Law blog: Using Wikisource as an Alternative Open Access Repository for Legal Scholarship

2009-06-20 Thread Geoffrey Plourde
For Supreme Court cases, would it be possible to have a bot pull the audio decisions from Oyez, and convert them into text? From: David Gerard To: Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List Sent: Saturday, June 20, 2009 8:41:45 AM Subject: [Foundation-l] Info/Law blog

Re: [Foundation-l] Info/Law blog: Using Wikisource as an Alternative Open Access Repository for Legal Scholarship

2009-06-20 Thread Geoffrey Plourde
For some reason, I am reminded of a Supreme Court case about the information in telephone directories. Maybe because of the insanity of trying to put public domain material under copyright. From: Brian To: Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List Sent: Saturday, J

Re: [Foundation-l] Wikimedia Commons: Service project or not?

2009-06-16 Thread Geoffrey Plourde
Just because several projects have decided to disable local uploads does not mean that Commons is ready to accept them. From: Pedro Sanchez To: Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2009 11:41:51 AM Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] Wikimedia C

Re: [Foundation-l] Wikimedia Commons: Service project or not?

2009-06-16 Thread Geoffrey Plourde
: Tuesday, June 16, 2009 11:13:55 AM Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] Wikimedia Commons: Service project or not? On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 10:56 AM, Geoffrey Plourde wrote: > Commons is an oddball project. Other projects produce work, but Commons > stores it. Wikisource could be considered another oddba

Re: [Foundation-l] Wikimedia Commons: Service project or not?

2009-06-16 Thread Geoffrey Plourde
e cabinets themselves are repositories. On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 1:56 PM, Geoffrey Plourde wrote: > Commons is an oddball project. Other projects produce work, but Commons > stores it. Wikisource could be considered another oddball for the same > reason. At this point in time, I would

Re: [Foundation-l] Wikimedia Commons: Service project or not?

2009-06-16 Thread Geoffrey Plourde
Commons is an oddball project. Other projects produce work, but Commons stores it. Wikisource could be considered another oddball for the same reason. At this point in time, I would class Commons as a service project (and wikisource as well) because it provides a service to other projects and it

Re: [Foundation-l] [Commons-l] Some reflections about the governance of Commons

2009-06-15 Thread Geoffrey Plourde
What if there were two image spaces? From: Samuel Klein To: Wikimedia Commons Discussion List Cc: Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List Sent: Monday, June 15, 2009 8:06:19 PM Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] [Commons-l] Some reflections about the governance of Common

Re: [Foundation-l] Proposals re : sexual content on wikimedia

2009-05-21 Thread Geoffrey Plourde
PM, while I respect your opinions, I must express my strong disagreement with most of them. Your first idea is restricting sexual content from userspace. This would encroach on personal freedom, because why shouldn't people be able to post whatever they want in their personal space? The secon

Re: [Foundation-l] Wikipedia is not the Karma Sutra, was Re: commons and freely licensed sexual imagery

2009-05-14 Thread Geoffrey Plourde
Common courtesy, maybe? From: Fred Bauder To: Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2009 7:24:12 AM Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] Wikipedia is not the Karma Sutra, was Re: commons and freely licensed sexual imagery > 2009/5/14 Fred Bauder

Re: [Foundation-l] The EFF appears to be somewhat upset by the foundation

2009-04-23 Thread Geoffrey Plourde
Did you consider starting off with asking for a simple disclaimer? If they don't have it uploaded and one was sent, disregard previous statement. From: Mike Godwin To: Thomas Dalton Cc: Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2009 11:53:

Re: [Foundation-l] ID requirements proposed for Germans using video sites

2009-04-23 Thread Geoffrey Plourde
I would guess probably not. Then again I am not German and have no legal training in the Basic Code. From: David Gerard To: Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2009 12:51:27 AM Subject: [Foundation-l] ID requirements proposed for Germ

Re: [Foundation-l] South Korean Government's regulations on real name for Internet

2009-04-11 Thread Geoffrey Plourde
While I may not be a lawyer, I believe that this system is a paper tiger. It is simply impossible for them to enforce it for many reasons. 1. It is impossible for us to determine which users are from South Korea 2. It would be a privacy violation to deliver names and numbers of non Koreans to t

Re: [Foundation-l] South Korean Government's regulations on real name for Internet

2009-04-10 Thread Geoffrey Plourde
So we need to speed the process up. From: RYU Cheol To: Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List Sent: Friday, April 10, 2009 8:24:03 AM Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] South Korean Government's regulations on real name for Internet Don't hurry up. They announce the s

Re: [Foundation-l] Compulsory policies for all Wikipedias

2009-04-09 Thread Geoffrey Plourde
I think that the general principles are a perfectly acceptable "policy" and creating a compulsory policy is a bad idea. Each project needs the independence provided by the general principles. Due to the vast diversity of the Wikimedia family, we cannot make hard and fast rules and expect each pr

Re: [Foundation-l] Divergent Wiktionary logos

2009-03-26 Thread Geoffrey Plourde
I agree with Austin. We cannot just force communities to adopt this new thing. Lets try for a clean start. From: Austin Hair To: Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2009 5:30:08 PM Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] Divergent Wiktionary logo

Re: [Foundation-l] Proposed revised attribution language

2009-03-16 Thread Geoffrey Plourde
:25 AM, Geoffrey Plourde wrote: > You are wrong my friend. When you hit that little button, you agreed to > license your contributions under 1.2 or any later version. Any later version published by the FSF. > Therefore if the Foundation moves to 1.3, the license transfers. Interesti

Re: [Foundation-l] Proposed revised attribution language

2009-03-16 Thread Geoffrey Plourde
You are wrong my friend. When you hit that little button, you agreed to license your contributions under 1.2 or any later version. Therefore if the Foundation moves to 1.3, the license transfers. As 1.3 is a dual license, its dual licensed. From: Anthony To

Re: [Foundation-l] Pissed off at en:Wikisource

2009-03-12 Thread Geoffrey Plourde
Biographies of living people bring up legal issues, this matter does not. From: Delirium To: Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2009 5:05:14 PM Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] Pissed off at en:Wikisource Geoffrey Plourde wrote: >

Re: [Foundation-l] Pissed off at en:Wikisource

2009-03-12 Thread Geoffrey Plourde
case, so its a moot point really. Also, you may want to reconsider the logic of posting your interpretation and conclusion about events and *then* asking for the thread to be killed. Mods aren't here to provide you with the last word. Nathan On Thu, Mar 12, 2009 at 12:14 PM, Geoffrey

Re: [Foundation-l] Pissed off at en:Wikisource

2009-03-12 Thread Geoffrey Plourde
I have refrained from commenting in the interests of letting this play out but find myself in disagreement with our worthy colleague from Wikisource. The locus of this complaint, as I see it, is that he was unfairly removed from his position. I see no merit in his claims for the following reason

Re: [Foundation-l] Attribution survey and licensing next steps

2009-03-07 Thread Geoffrey Plourde
Baseline, maybe? From: Thomas Dalton To: Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List Sent: Saturday, March 7, 2009 10:18:01 AM Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] Attribution survey and licensing next steps 2009/3/7 Erik Moeller : > The author attribution survey is now closed.

Re: [Foundation-l] Request for your input: biographies of living people

2009-03-05 Thread Geoffrey Plourde
This line of reasoning will end now. I am sick of seeing rants, tirades, and personal attacks in my inbox. We have to improve our BLP policies, your sniping is not helping that. From: Anthony To: Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List Sent: Thursday, March 5, 200

Re: [Foundation-l] Attribution survey, first results

2009-03-03 Thread Geoffrey Plourde
They wrote the damned thing, so they are most likely to understand it. From: geni To: Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List Sent: Tuesday, March 3, 2009 7:41:32 PM Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] Attribution survey, first results 2009/3/4 Erik Moeller : > 2009/3/3 T

Re: [Foundation-l] Report a problem link

2009-03-03 Thread Geoffrey Plourde
We should have him teach a Wikiversity class on how to be like Mike! From: Gerard Meijssen To: Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List Sent: Tuesday, March 3, 2009 7:30:57 AM Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] Report a problem link Hoi, I doubt that it is worth our while

Re: [Foundation-l] Request for your input: biographies of living people

2009-03-02 Thread Geoffrey Plourde
41 AM Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] Request for your input: biographies of living people On Mon, Mar 2, 2009 at 6:38 PM, Geoffrey Plourde wrote: > Not necessarily. You do them in bulk at a certain time each week or every two > weeks. And of course all applicants will be available at th

Re: [Foundation-l] Request for your input: biographies of living people

2009-03-02 Thread Geoffrey Plourde
people On Mon, Mar 2, 2009 at 6:14 PM, Geoffrey Plourde wrote: > I care not about my application being killed. I am pointing out that it > appears that you kill most of the applications, which may be the >reason for > a lack of manpower. Access to OTRS implies a high trust into t

Re: [Foundation-l] Request for your input: biographies of living people

2009-03-02 Thread Geoffrey Plourde
: Guillaume Paumier To: Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List Sent: Monday, March 2, 2009 9:05:58 AM Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] Request for your input: biographies of living people Hello, On Mon, Mar 2, 2009 at 6:01 PM, Geoffrey Plourde wrote: > I have some experience with customer service and

Re: [Foundation-l] Request for your input: biographies of living people

2009-03-02 Thread Geoffrey Plourde
I have some experience with customer service and was willing to serve as OTRS volunteer, but was rejected. The number of rejections I have witnessed is really shooting OTRS in the foot. From: Aude To: Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List Sent: Monday, March 2,

Re: [Foundation-l] Request for your input: biographies of living people

2009-03-02 Thread Geoffrey Plourde
t: Re: [Foundation-l] Request for your input: biographies of living people On Mon, Mar 2, 2009 at 5:38 PM, Geoffrey Plourde wrote: > They have no recourse. We are not subject to Polish law. > Individual Polish editors are, however, likely to be and they might apparentely be in danger of prosecutio

Re: [Foundation-l] Request for your input: biographies of living people

2009-03-02 Thread Geoffrey Plourde
They have no recourse. We are not subject to Polish law. From: Tomasz Ganicz To: Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List Sent: Monday, March 2, 2009 6:24:09 AM Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] Request for your input: biographies of living people 2009/3/2 David Gerard :

Re: [Foundation-l] Request for your input: biographies of living people

2009-03-02 Thread Geoffrey Plourde
I think that the implementation of Flagged Revisions will clean up a lot of the BLP problems. Another possibility that I doubt anyone will support is appointing a BLP Committee or group of administrators to oversee all BLP matters. From: Sue Gardner To: fou

Re: [Foundation-l] Simple English Encyclopedia

2009-02-25 Thread Geoffrey Plourde
I didn't know the language committee was empowered to decide on whether or not Simples were made. I thought your job was to determine valid languages. I absolutely cannot support the continued existence of this body due to these unknown powers and will make my voice known the next time someone o

Re: [Foundation-l] Simple English Encyclopedia

2009-02-23 Thread Geoffrey Plourde
I have refrained from commenting on this post in the interest of lessening the impact on people's inboxes. However, I feel that after a cursory inspection of my own, I should probably make a few points. One is that in the year or so I have been subscribed to this list, I cannot think of any majo

Re: [Foundation-l] [Wikitech-l] second-class wikis

2009-02-02 Thread Geoffrey Plourde
Everything takes time. The techs will handle it when they get around to it. From: Gerard Meijssen To: Wikimedia developers ; Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List Sent: Monday, February 2, 2009 3:26:02 AM Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] [Wikitech-l] second-class wik

Re: [Foundation-l] Are model releases required for 'Free' content? (was: Sexual Content on Wikimedia)

2009-01-30 Thread Geoffrey Plourde
Sam; I think that this is more of a Commons discussion. While I disagree with much of what you say, I agree that this class of image, by its very nature, requires more scrutiny. Serious thought should be given to a Nude Model Policy of requiring uploaders to answer about five questions under pe

Re: [Foundation-l] Commons and The Year of the Picture

2009-01-28 Thread Geoffrey Plourde
What he is pointing out is that the chapter set up the whole process, thus making them culpable. From: Gerard Meijssen To: Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2009 12:14:45 PM Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] Commons and The Year of the

Re: [Foundation-l] Commons and The Year of the Picture

2009-01-28 Thread Geoffrey Plourde
While I advised that a similar matter be dropped earlier, this has some fundamental differences that I believe may have merit. Whereas the Missing Manual is uploaded by a known mutual agreement, these photos are not necessarily uploaded by mutual agreement. In theory, we are supposed to have p

Re: [Foundation-l] Help-book made available in en Wikipedia against Licensing Policy

2009-01-28 Thread Geoffrey Plourde
I don't think that either the Foundation or Mr. Broughton will be complaining. Drop it. From: Klaus Graf To: foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2009 7:59:15 AM Subject: [Foundation-l] Help-book made available in en Wikipedia against

Re: [Foundation-l] Wikia leasing office space to WMF

2009-01-24 Thread Geoffrey Plourde
ion-l@lists.wikimedia.org Sent: Saturday, January 24, 2009 12:53:51 PM Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] Wikia leasing office space to WMF Geoffrey Plourde said: "Why should a taco stand use a dry cleaning shop when it can get another taco shop?" Gregory Kohs responds: I might be able to give a bette

Re: [Foundation-l] Wikia leasing office space to WMF

2009-01-24 Thread Geoffrey Plourde
: [Foundation-l] Wikia leasing office space to WMF I wrote: > > To clarify, did Wikia match the lowest bid? Geoffrey Plourde replied: > Mr. Levy; > > I respectfully believe that you are asking the wrong question. > Rent is only a small part of cost. The whole cost should have > bee

Re: [Foundation-l] Wikia leasing office space to WMF

2009-01-23 Thread Geoffrey Plourde
Its the same software for both parties, and its open source. Please just drop it. From: Anthony To: Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List Sent: Friday, January 23, 2009 6:41:34 PM Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] Wikia leasing office space to WMF On Fri, Jan 23, 200

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