Re: [Foundation-l] "wikipedia" Domain acquisition

2010-09-08 Thread Aphaia
ask so"? thank you for your good summary, that is exactly what I understand. I sent a closer note to Mike Godwin, separated from this trolling, so I think there is no worry for us community. Cheers, > Best, > > Lodewijk > > 2010/9/8 Aphaia > >> I usually give no repl

Re: [Foundation-l] "wikipedia" Domain acquisition

2010-09-07 Thread Aphaia
I usually give no reply to trolls, so it's just for your information as other subscribers on good faith. It's too bad English to understand what it means, so I just give you details instead. I don't know when wikipedia.jp was first acquired exactly but the first acquisition might be in 2003, when

Re: [Foundation-l] ru-Wikiversuty

2010-08-21 Thread Aphaia
I agree with Huib: it's no foundation matter unless you've been blocked in relation to foundation matters (like CentralNotice, enforcing Foundation policy etc.) Yaroslav, I think I can understand you are unhappy and somehow upset, but please give your consideration to that what matters if you are

Re: [Foundation-l] Partecipation in Wikimania 2011

2010-08-13 Thread Aphaia
Slightly OT, in some parts, sorry in advance, On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 8:43 PM, Mariano Cecowski wrote: > > Osama, I'm afraid your view is very self-centric. > > We Southamericans have a really hard time getting into USA; and I'm sure many > couldn't go to that Wikimania because of visa problems.

Re: [Foundation-l] Umberto Eco's interview

2010-08-04 Thread Aphaia
Great work, thanks and kudos to Italian Wikinews team! And also thank you very much for giving us English translation kindly. It helps spread this great interview ... many passages I have found stimulating. Keep up doing this, Italian Wikinewsies :) On Wed, Aug 4, 2010 at 5:37 PM, Ilario Valdell

Re: [Foundation-l] Push translation

2010-07-27 Thread Aphaia
On Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 7:26 AM, Michael Snow wrote: > Aphaia wrote: >> Ah, I omitted T, and I meant Toolkit. A toolkit with garbage could be >> called toolkit, but it doesn't change it is useless; it cannot deal >> with syntax properly, i.e. conjugation etc. at this

Re: [Foundation-l] Push translation

2010-07-27 Thread Aphaia
really "reviewed and corrected by a human" to a sufficient extent. It could be enough for your target language, but not for mine. Thanks. On Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 5:15 AM, Casey Brown wrote: > On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 3:44 PM, Mark Williamson wrote: >> Aphaia, Shiju Alex and I are

Re: [Foundation-l] Push translation

2010-07-27 Thread Aphaia
GT fails. At least for Japanese, it sucks. And that is why I don't support it. GT may fit to SVO languages, but for SOV languages, it is nothing but a crap. Imagine to fix a 4000 words of documents whose all lines are sort of "all your base is belong to us". It's not a simple thing as you imagine

Re: [Foundation-l] Push translation

2010-07-27 Thread Aphaia
I've noticed many of English Wikipedia articles cite only English written articles even if the topics are of non-English world. And normally, specially in the developing world, the most comprehend sources are found in their own languages - how can those articles be assured in NPOV when they ignore

Re: [Foundation-l] Is Google translation is good for Wikipedias?

2010-07-25 Thread Aphaia
on-English speakers as well as for you. Cheers, On Sun, Jul 25, 2010 at 7:18 PM, Mark Williamson wrote: > Aphaia, a great deal of confusion has been created with regards to > this project. I hope you'll allow me to attempt to clear it up. > > These are NOT articles that were tr

Re: [Foundation-l] Is Google translation is good for Wikipedias?

2010-07-25 Thread Aphaia
Hi, On Sun, Jul 25, 2010 at 3:52 PM, Jon Davis wrote: > I think the answer is "Yes and No".  As with any new > project/concept/idea/trial there are pro's and there are con's.  The real > question is: Do the pro's outweigh the con's? > > From just reading what you linked (And not in any way being

Re: [Foundation-l] Boycott in a...@wiki

2010-07-17 Thread Aphaia
I don't know Krishna case, nor Western Church, but according to the Tradition (or the Holy Tradition as the church says), thus not accoding to secular people, - St. Paul, his portrait is described by Eusebius, who records a 2nd century account in "The History of the Church", and at least Eastern O

Re: [Foundation-l] Fwd: Foundation-l

2010-06-27 Thread Aphaia
On Sun, Jun 27, 2010 at 3:02 PM, Thomas Dalton wrote: > On 27 June 2010 13:55, Dennis During wrote: >> Are you saying that one can't disclose correspondence to any third-party >> without consent of both parties?  In what jurisdictions? > > The law is a little out-of-date. When someone sends you a

Re: [Foundation-l] encouraging women's participation

2010-06-23 Thread Aphaia
One thing we can do would be to make contributors' names more visible. Translators for WMF stuff too (Ting Chen made a good point about the latter in Alexandria). Many websites gives clear credits to contributors - not only for-profit media, but websites whose content is mainly written by volunteer

Re: [Foundation-l] English language dominationism is striking again

2010-06-22 Thread Aphaia
I know a horse, but yesterday it took for me five minutes to remember sparrows were the bird's name I would have liked to mention. . It helps to make this discussion helpful to some extent that native English speakers remind it is sometimes not so easy as you the native expect foreign learners. It

Re: [Foundation-l] The High Priests of Wikipedia

2010-06-08 Thread Aphaia
Of course we don't. As far as I learn from my Wikimania participation, Wikipedian's preferences go rather to beer, not dull caffeine. /me ducks On Tue, Jun 8, 2010 at 11:43 PM, Bod Notbod wrote: >> "For internecine intrigue and power struggles, the Wikipedia makes the >> Vatican look like a coff

Re: [Foundation-l] Cultural awareness and sensitivity

2010-06-07 Thread Aphaia
True, but it reminded me on the time English Wikipedia sanctioned non-latin script usernames and blocked them indefinitely and forced them to rename for months. At that time many English Wikipedia sysops supported this idea and much more of them were indifferent. If I recall correctly, no board mem

Re: [Foundation-l] hiding interlanguage links by default is a BadIdea, part 2

2010-06-05 Thread Aphaia
other on this list, soon in Gdansk and elsewhere On Sun, Jun 6, 2010 at 4:15 AM, wrote: > I'm not weighing in on the specific issue Aphaia, and I'm sure Howie will say > more next week. My point is just what I said: the UX team is trying to > balance all users' needs,

Re: [Foundation-l] hiding interlanguage links by default is a BadIdea, part 2

2010-06-05 Thread Aphaia
Well, I would have liked to mean, English speaking people is only 2/60 global population, it would be obvious though, I'd like to give a stat collection. Cheers, On Sun, Jun 6, 2010 at 3:40 AM, Aphaia wrote: > On Sun, Jun 6, 2010 at 3:03 AM,   wrote: >> Sorry for top-posting

Re: [Foundation-l] hiding interlanguage links by default is a BadIdea, part 2

2010-06-05 Thread Aphaia
On Sun, Jun 6, 2010 at 3:03 AM, wrote: > Sorry for top-posting. > > Austin, think about who "everyone" is.  The folks here on foundation-l are > not representative of readers.  The job of the user experience team is to try > to balance all readers' needs, Sue, not personal, but I think here I

Re: [Foundation-l] Fwd: Announcing new Chief Global Development Officer and new Chief Community Officer

2010-06-03 Thread Aphaia
Hi, Daniel On Thu, Jun 3, 2010 at 2:26 PM, Daniel Phelps wrote: > On Jun 2, 2010, at 9:40 PM, phoebe ayers wrote: > >> Also as I'm sure you're aware it's definitely time to update >> http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/File:Org_Chart_Without_Names.png ! >> (from [[wmf:staff]] >> >> -- Phoebe > >

Re: [Foundation-l] hiding interlanguage links by default is a Bad Idea, part 2

2010-06-02 Thread Aphaia
I would like to know as follows * the data mentioned * differences between language groups: does every language group use interlanguage links rarely or some of them use it often? For instance, in a small wikis? * Is there any way to choose if those hiding-by-default boxes are visible by user prefe

Re: [Foundation-l] hiding interlanguage links by default is a Bad Idea, part 2

2010-06-02 Thread Aphaia
I would like to know as follows * the data mentioned * differences between language groups: does every language group use interlanguage links rarely or some of them use it often? For instance, in a small wikis? * Is there any way to choose if those hiding-by-default boxes are visible by user prefe

Re: [Foundation-l] Renaming "Flagged Protections"

2010-05-26 Thread Aphaia
Personally I support "Hyperion Frobnosticating Endoswitch" so your direction saddened me a bit, anyway On Thu, May 27, 2010 at 7:27 AM, Rob Lanphier wrote: > Hi everyone, > > It looks like the discussion on the name is dying down, so I'd like to > summarize what I think we've heard here: > 1.  T

Re: [Foundation-l] Renaming "Flagged Protections"

2010-05-24 Thread Aphaia
On Sat, May 22, 2010 at 7:30 PM, AGK wrote: > On 22 May 2010 02:09, Thomas Dalton wrote: >> While that is true, making up names without any real thought is what >> has resulted in the mess we have now where most people have no idea >> what the differences are between Wikipedia, Wikimedia and Medi

Re: [Foundation-l] pediapress in English... and in hardcover?

2010-05-17 Thread Aphaia
Cool. On Sun, May 9, 2010 at 9:51 PM, Samuel Klein wrote: > Lost in the recent email flood: pediapress is fully working for English. > > http://techcrunch.com/2010/05/06/wikipedia-and-pediapress-now-allow-you-to-create-books-from-content-in-english/ > > Does anyone have photos of prototype hardc

Re: [Foundation-l] [OT] Am I the only one...

2010-05-09 Thread Aphaia
On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 9:35 AM, Ryan Lomonaco wrote: > On Sun, May 9, 2010 at 7:50 PM, K. Peachey wrote: > >> I do to, depending on how they are applied, for example I would much >> prefer on a case by case basis compared to everyone, since a few >> people are bring active and decent discussion

Re: [Foundation-l] Reflections on the recent debates

2010-05-09 Thread Aphaia
Not knowing, but Commons has their own VPs (in many langs), IRC channel and mailing list. I don't see the good reason those particular things on the project are continued to discuss on this list. Cheers, On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 3:28 AM, Anthony wrote: > On Sun, May 9, 2010 at 2:05 PM, Jimmy Wale

Re: [Foundation-l] Statement on appropriate educational content

2010-05-09 Thread Aphaia
Thanks for your prompt response, Ting. Fine to see we come to agreement so quickly :) On Sun, May 9, 2010 at 4:47 PM, Ting Chen wrote: > Hello all, > > the following sentence from me is surely a very stupid sentense. I > apology for it. And thanks for everyone, especially Aphai

Re: [Foundation-l] Threading

2010-05-08 Thread Aphaia
Um, I thought it would be better to talk privately but surprised it is forgotten at all so do it: Users can burst digest format messages into separate mails locally. It means, you can scan the digest and burst them into messages only if you want to reply. Most of ancient mail user clients have thi

Re: [Foundation-l] Reflections on the recent debates

2010-05-08 Thread Aphaia
Between Wikiversity blocking and Commons ones, there is another example of Jimmy's rushes and communal nonsupport, I think. That is, on a "global ban" of a certain editor. While I personally don't care if that guy is banned or not, I care the Jimmy's claim he has a right to declare global ban in

Re: [Foundation-l] Statement on appropriate educational content

2010-05-08 Thread Aphaia
Disagreed. Those free licensed (or sometimes public domain) content on Commons, Wikiquote and Wikisource are not only cited on Wikimedia wikis but on third parties' publifications: from websites to books and magazines. They help to spread "a sum of human being knowledge" per se, not just repositor

Re: [Foundation-l] Jimbo Wales acting outside his remit

2010-05-08 Thread Aphaia
On Sat, May 8, 2010 at 9:43 PM, Fred Bauder wrote: > Well, do you need a picture to explain a dildo? Well, at least it is helpful for foreign readers to some extent to have an illustration, File:Franz von Bayros > 016.jpg is more or less art, but File:Félicien Rops - Sainte-Thérèse.png > which

Re: [Foundation-l] Welcome to a new board member

2010-04-06 Thread Aphaia
Welcome aboard Bishaka, great to see a female activist and creator from Asia, I hope you enjoy your new role and feel comfortable in our community. Greetings warmly from Wikiquote, On Mon, Apr 5, 2010 at 11:03 PM, Bishakha Datta wrote: > Thanks, Michael and Ting. > > Look forward to this new ad

Re: [Foundation-l] Swedish Wikipedians removes Wikimedia logos

2010-03-29 Thread Aphaia
Poor Mike. You could blog it on Wikimedia blog, even from now? Now we have the policy with a detailed FAQ though, still I guess I'll keep posting some questions - it doesn't mean the policy is poorly written, but just I'd love to see you around. /me ducks On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 9:10 AM, Mike G

[Foundation-l] [[m:Requests for comment/Remove Founder flag]]

2010-03-27 Thread Aphaia
Hello, though I always admire Wikiversity and other community members' sincere interest and effort, the RfC "Remove Founder flag" looks to me too rush and poorly designed. The page appears now a sort of poll that page has never been designed so (btw: I'm the one who initiated that page on meta, but

Re: [Foundation-l] Annulment declaration of "Wikipedia's principles" and "Wikipedia:Policies and guidelines" in Japanese edition.

2010-03-25 Thread Aphaia
Briefly, the page pointed out couldn't read as described, at least in my view. There is no such vote but rather just to confirm policies and guidelines said to be applied for the project currently are really such as, and this corner picking seems to be an answer to this poster who raised this as an

Re: [Foundation-l] Chinese languages (was: Changes in Language committee practice: ancient and constructed languages)

2010-03-08 Thread Aphaia
On Mon, Mar 8, 2010 at 9:42 PM, Milos Rancic wrote: > On Mon, Mar 8, 2010 at 5:18 AM, Aphaia wrote: >> I find here a wrong assupmtion. >> First wrong assumption is "Written Chinese is not very different for >> millenniums", they aren't same, and conseque

Re: [Foundation-l] Changes in Language committee practice: ancient and constructed languages

2010-03-07 Thread Aphaia
A pure question: is there any means we have a multilingual website for those Classical language rather than saying the default is English? On Mon, Mar 8, 2010 at 2:58 AM, Milos Rancic wrote: > This issue was discussed a number of times here. As some changes has > happened, you should know that. >

Re: [Foundation-l] Is the consensus to the policy necessary?

2010-03-07 Thread Aphaia
Hi, I reviewed his contribs to Japanese Wikipedia and found him post raw (not translated yet) EnWP policy without any effort to building any consensus of the community, before posting to this list. Just for your information. Best, On Mon, Mar 8, 2010 at 12:01 PM, Fred Bauder wrote: >> Does Wikip

Re: [Foundation-l] [Announcement] Extension of user experience work

2010-03-01 Thread Aphaia
Great news. Congrats for the team which gets now a broaden opportunity to spread their strength. I'm thrilled to look forward to see this initiative go further, and experience the website renewed by the team, as both an editor and an user. On Tue, Mar 2, 2010 at 9:14 AM, Erik Moeller wrote: > Hel

Re: [Foundation-l] [Wikinews-l] Discussion about proposal for multilingual Wikinews

2010-03-01 Thread Aphaia
On Sun, Feb 28, 2010 at 10:59 AM, gopher65 wrote: > You know, I've actually been recently considering an idea for combining all > of the Wikinews language editions into a single project. However, the code > required to accomplish this in a reasonable fashion does not currently > exist, and I don't

Re: [Foundation-l] �lliam Pietri: Where is Flagge dRevisions?

2010-02-28 Thread Aphaia
Not a sarcasm, but I would like to point out SUL, single user login took years to implement to the project wikis, and we even called once it "Godot". FlaggedRevs implementation also - it took years to realize. Months are relatively shorter, and I hope you guys could wait for in a less pain. On Mon

Re: [Foundation-l] Fwd: [Wikipedia-l] Please HELP save Wikipedia history ! (urgent)

2010-02-19 Thread Aphaia
Till some moment, all updates were assumed under GFDL ... or it was said "you agree to release your upload under GFDL with your pushing this button" or something alike. No tagged old images could be legacy from that era. For more details, see related mediawiki files' past revisions. Cheers, On Sa

Re: [Foundation-l] List summary service

2010-02-10 Thread Aphaia
Thanks for your efforts, Phoebe. I'm very benefited /me struggles w/ a some-month backlog On Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 4:08 PM, phoebe ayers wrote: > So after a rather lengthier than planned delay, I posted two new > foundation-l list summaries for posterity: > > December: > http://meta.wikimedia.org

Re: [Foundation-l] Announce: Brion moving to StatusNet

2009-10-02 Thread Aphaia
Brion, congrats on your new opportunity and project and I'm bit on a relief to hear you would like to stay on our community, and I still remember the days you was a volunteer developer with great devotion (in those days e started to celebrate Brion Vibber Day) but still you won't be surprised I th

Re: [Foundation-l] Congratulations to Gdansk!

2009-05-13 Thread Aphaia
Congrats to the Polish team, and poor committee, it's always a tough decision but this year one seems one of toughest since ever. Thank you for everyone involved and hope to see you all in Gdansk next year. Again, congrats! On Thu, May 7, 2009 at 5:46 PM, Dedalus wrote: > Congratulations to the

Re: [Foundation-l] Simple English Wikipedia on xkcd

2009-03-07 Thread Aphaia
I would like to encourage Simple English Wikipedia fans to blog about it ... particularly if you are non-English native speakers. The wiki is just not known. They might know their mother tongue Wikipedia and English one but not Simplewiki. Last year I just mentioned to the Simple English Wikipedia

Re: [Foundation-l] How to dismantle a language committee

2009-01-12 Thread Aphaia
As another historical note from Wikimania 2008 ... In our session (of mine and Arria Belli) which focused on translation, a girl who seemed to be Arabic but not known to me from where she came asked me if there would be a possibility of āmmiyya Wikipedias. I don't know which āmmiyya she cared for

Re: [Foundation-l] Fundraiser update

2009-01-10 Thread Aphaia
On Thu, Jan 8, 2009 at 8:55 AM, Anders Wegge Keller wrote: > geni writes: > >> 2009/1/7 Anders Wegge Keller : >> Now we can agree that fundraising banners that size are apparently >> effective which is good but thankyou banners that size less so. If a >> thank you is required one the size of the

Re: [Foundation-l] Fundraiser update

2009-01-10 Thread Aphaia
Not really, if you give your eyes to blogosphere global and hence multingual, including mine. I hope some would go through mine to the fundraising page, and some of trackbacks to my entry were clearly positive ("I've donated them, you can do too") too. It is still anectodal, but I think it good to

Re: [Foundation-l] Site Notices Phase 2 - Annual Fundraiser 2008

2008-12-02 Thread Aphaia
Hi, Rand said: >Phase 2 notices will go live the week of December 1st...pending the time >needed by our >volunteer translators and the tech team. Besides all the discussion on possible rephrasing, Phase 2 notices seem not go live yet. Postponed? Or did I miss something? On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at

Re: [Foundation-l] Site Notices Phase 2 - Annual Fundraiser 2008

2008-11-28 Thread Aphaia
On Fri, Nov 28, 2008 at 7:26 PM, Thomas Dalton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> And, in fact, wikimediafoundation.org says "nonprofit charitable >>> organization". I don't know why people generally say "non-profit" >>> instead of "charity", then - charity would be more precise and would >>> probably

Re: [Foundation-l] Site Notices Phase 2 - Annual Fundraiser 2008

2008-11-27 Thread Aphaia
On Fri, Nov 28, 2008 at 6:40 AM, Thomas Dalton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > 2008/11/27 David Gerard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >> 2008/11/27 Thomas Dalton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >> "Wikipedia is a charity" ? >> >>> People always say "non-profit" when describing WMF, is it a charity? >>> The two terms

Re: [Foundation-l] A local chapter without Wikimedians

2008-11-26 Thread Aphaia
Geoffrey, I have been working with Luis and other guys as translators for years. Their devotion is much appreciated and I know them thoughtful, patient and experience Wikimedians who are deeply concerned about their project and thus its relationship to the real world. Personally I am afraid Jimmy

Re: [Foundation-l] A local chapter without Wikimedians

2008-11-24 Thread Aphaia
Agreed. Not yet existing corporate cannot be approved by anyone. It just may say the idea was favored, and it may be sure it is being planned, but we should not mislead our readers as if there were an organization already. On Tue, Nov 25, 2008 at 7:17 AM, Florence Devouard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrot