Re: [Foundation-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Fwd: Announcement: New editor engagement experiments team!

2012-03-20 Thread Erik Moeller
On Tue, Mar 20, 2012 at 11:10 PM, Liam Wyatt wrote: > I think it would greatly help if we could have an updated organisation > chart of who is reporting to whom, and what departments they are all in. The static graphics stopped being maintainable. We're exploring a couple of options for data-driv

Re: [Foundation-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Fwd: Announcement: New editor engagement experiments team!

2012-03-20 Thread Liam Wyatt
Thanks for sending this through to us Sue, It sounds like some very interesting and big changes to the structure of the departments, but I must admit I find it pretty confusing with all the names of people and groups! I think it would greatly help if we could have an updated organisation chart of w

Re: [Foundation-l] Wikipedia mentioned and discussed in appellate court decision

2012-03-20 Thread Newyorkbrad
Generally, court decisions cite Wikipedia only for uncontroversial facts where it isn't really worth the trouble to locate a more traditional or "reliable" source. What makes this case unusual is that the judge who was citing Wikipedia didn't seek another source even after the majority challenged

Re: [Foundation-l] Wikipedia mentioned and discussed in appellate court decision

2012-03-20 Thread Techman224
Probably didn't read http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:General_disclaimer and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Risk_disclaimer Techman224 On 2012-03-20, at 6:28 PM, Newyorkbrad wrote: > http://www.nycourts.gov/reporter/3dseries/2012/2012_02069.htm > > Wikipedia is cited in footnote

[Foundation-l] Wikipedia mentioned and discussed in appellate court decision

2012-03-20 Thread Newyorkbrad
http://www.nycourts.gov/reporter/3dseries/2012/2012_02069.htm Wikipedia is cited in footnote 3 to dissenting opinion (see the very end of the decision). The majority opinion responds that "as of yet, Wikipedia is not recognized source material for serious jurisprudential analysis." (Caution: the

Re: [Foundation-l] Does google favour WIkipedia?

2012-03-20 Thread Fred Bauder
> Fred Bauder wrote: >>> Perhaps they honestly believe that their keyword-primed advertorial >>> page is actually more useful than a Wikipedia page and are astounded >>> that Google might have the temerity to disagree. ;-) >> >> We can't create a new page based on a press release or an >> advertise

Re: [Foundation-l] Does google favour WIkipedia?

2012-03-20 Thread MZMcBride
Fred Bauder wrote: >> Perhaps they honestly believe that their keyword-primed advertorial >> page is actually more useful than a Wikipedia page and are astounded >> that Google might have the temerity to disagree. ;-) > > We can't create a new page based on a press release or an advertisement. > U

Re: [Foundation-l] [WikiEN-l] Stopping the presses:, Britannica to stop printing books

2012-03-20 Thread Chris Keating
> > > > It is socially and historically interesting to compare very old edition of > Brittanica to a newer edition. For example: an entry on battleships would > evolve from a discussion of wooden ships powered by sail that enforced > seapower of an empire to sidewheelers, to iron ships fired by coa

Re: [Foundation-l] Does google favour WIkipedia?

2012-03-20 Thread geni
On 20 March 2012 17:07, Oliver Keyes wrote: > The answer, evidently, is "not as much as Bing" - > http://searchenginewatch.com/article/2161910/Bing-Not-Google-Favors-Wikipedia-More-Often-in-Search-Results-Study > > Thought people might find it interesting :) > Wikipedia has typicaly ranked higher

Re: [Foundation-l] [WikiEN-l] Stopping the presses:, Britannica to stop printing books

2012-03-20 Thread David Goodman
For English, and other languages also: What I suggest is a '''Wikipedia Two'' - an encyclopedia supplement where the standard of notability is much relaxed, but which will be different from Wikia by still requiring Verifiability and NPOV. It would include the lower levels of barely notable art

Re: [Foundation-l] [Wikitech-l] Video codecs and mobile

2012-03-20 Thread David Gerard
On 20 March 2012 20:02, Lars Aronsson wrote: > I'm not opposed to trying H.264, but I doubt it will solve our problem, > which is that we have too few videos. > The category:Videos from Sweden (an early adopter market) is now at > 110 files, which is a ridiculously small number. It has doubled ea

Re: [Foundation-l] Does google favour WIkipedia?

2012-03-20 Thread Fred Bauder
> > Perhaps they honestly believe that their keyword-primed advertorial > page is actually more useful than a Wikipedia page and are astounded > that Google might have the temerity to disagree. ;-) > > -- > Tom Morris > We can't create a new page based on a press release o

Re: [Foundation-l] Does google favour WIkipedia?

2012-03-20 Thread David Gerard
On 20 March 2012 18:39, Tom Morris wrote: > On 20 March 2012 18:24, Andrew Gray wrote: >> (The SEO people are correct that Wikipedia has a high Google ranking, >> and correct that this is something of an odd skew on Google's part. >> What always amuses me is the recurrent belief that Wikipedia >

Re: [Foundation-l] Does google favour WIkipedia?

2012-03-20 Thread Tom Morris
On 20 March 2012 18:24, Andrew Gray wrote: > (The SEO people are correct that Wikipedia has a high Google ranking, > and correct that this is something of an odd skew on Google's part. > What always amuses me is the recurrent belief that Wikipedia > deliberately tries to do this, that we're bribin

Re: [Foundation-l] Does google favour WIkipedia?

2012-03-20 Thread Andrew Gray
On 20 March 2012 17:20, Fred Bauder wrote: >> The answer, evidently, is "not as much as Bing" - >> http://searchenginewatch.com/article/2161910/Bing-Not-Google-Favors-Wikipedia-More-Often-in-Search-Results-Study >> >> Thought people might find it interesting :) > > No question that we are a center

Re: [Foundation-l] Does google favour WIkipedia?

2012-03-20 Thread Pedro Sanchez
On Tue, Mar 20, 2012 at 11:20 AM, Fred Bauder wrote: >> The answer, evidently, is "not as much as Bing" - >> http://searchenginewatch.com/article/2161910/Bing-Not-Google-Favors-Wikipedia-More-Often-in-Search-Results-Study >> >> Thought people might find it interesting :) > > No question that we ar

Re: [Foundation-l] Does google favour WIkipedia?

2012-03-20 Thread Fred Bauder
> The answer, evidently, is "not as much as Bing" - > http://searchenginewatch.com/article/2161910/Bing-Not-Google-Favors-Wikipedia-More-Often-in-Search-Results-Study > > Thought people might find it interesting :) No question that we are a center of attention for Google. I've noticed that when I

[Foundation-l] Fwd: [Wikitech-l] Video codecs and mobile

2012-03-20 Thread David Gerard
This is a drastic policy change that affects all projects, and so needs wider discussion than just wikitech-l. -- Forwarded message -- From: Brion Vibber Date: 20 March 2012 01:24 Subject: [Wikitech-l] Video codecs and mobile To: Wikimedia developers As some may know, we've re

Re: [Foundation-l] Does google favour WIkipedia?

2012-03-20 Thread Richard Symonds
Thanks for this, Oliver - really helpful! Richard Symonds Office& Development Manager Wikimedia UK +44 (0) 207 065 0992 -- Wikimedia UK is the operating name of Wiki UK Limited, a Charitable Company Registered in England and Wales, No: 6741827. Charity No:1144513 Office: 4th Floor, Development

[Foundation-l] Does google favour WIkipedia?

2012-03-20 Thread Oliver Keyes
The answer, evidently, is "not as much as Bing" - http://searchenginewatch.com/article/2161910/Bing-Not-Google-Favors-Wikipedia-More-Often-in-Search-Results-Study Thought people might find it interesting :) -- Oliver Keyes Community Liaison, Product Development Wikimedia Foundation _

[Foundation-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] The Signpost -- Volume 8, Issue 12 -- 19 March 2012

2012-03-20 Thread Wikipedia Signpost
News and notes: Chapters Council proposals take form as research applications invited for Wikipedia Academy and HighBeam accounts http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2012-03-19/News_and_notes Discussion report: Article Rescue Squadron in need of rescue yet again http://en.wi